Armenian president on historic visit to Turkey

[bbphnix]

anyway nagornokarabakh should be part of azerbaijan... any fool can see that since everyone there is armenian! armenia use to include NK it was added to azerbijan because the moronic USSR liked playing around with other people's teritory

[bbphnix]

Turkey and Azerbayjan are assholes; sorry to say that but all evidence points in that direction; Turkey is a bully for not nly but also Cyprus; it's a bully, quite simply; aside from recognizing the genocide, i think turkey should go even further: there's terytory in turkey that should be part og armenia; at the very least mount ararat should be part of armenia; as for nagornokarabakh..... what buissness is it of turkey to help azerbaijan in the war? closing borders wih armenia? fuck that

[cvunit]

Turkey needs to man up and accept that shit, it happened decades ago, them accepting it, don't do much anyways.

[erdal0]

Armenian people are dying of hunger

[TURKPOPMV]

@nimrodhamadan 100% right about the Azerbaijan thing, they scream genocide when they've done it themselves just only recent (1992) rather than (1914) SHAME ON THEM!

[yklocnykl]

hey MrSparky222 sock my Turkish cock, They never do that because NO GENOCIDE.RACIST FACIST WESTERN ALSO KNOWS THAT THERE IS NO GENOCIDE

[MrSparky222]

@yklocnykl lol suck my armenian cock u turkish gay....i dont expect for you to admit anything....your from turkey....a turkish gay motherfucker.....who doesnt accept reality....there will never be peace....FUCK YOU AND YOUR COUNTRY.....ill shit all over your pathetic country

[TURKPOPMV]

@MrSparky222 Armenians accept the reality of Nagorno-Karabagh being Azeri-Turk soil than we Turks can talk about opening up the border and the AR Genocide & war against the Soviets but till then the current issues that still stand need to be handled first. The thousands of displaced Azeris should get their land back FIRST, AR should get off of Azeri soil FIRST, then Turkey will take you seriously. Otherwise, AR's problems will mean nothing at all to TR. 1000s of Armenians n TR, 0 Turks n AR, why

[MrSparky222]

@nimrodhamadan go get fucked asswipe, fuck azeri, fuck turks, fuck dumb americans we support you guys too, LONG LIVE ARMENIA,RUSSIA,GREECE

[ayinka92]

Fuck Armenia)))))))))))))))))))))))­))))

[MrSparky222]

@ayinka92 go suck turkish cock bitch, LONG LIVE ARMENIA

[yklocnykl]

1. why have they (ermeni dogs) not accepted to go to international court?

2.Why their archives are closed?

The answer is

A LIE CAN NEVER be proved

They never do that because NO GENOCIDE.RACIST FACIST WESTERN ALSO KNOWS THAT THERE IS NO GENOCIDE

[MrSparky222]

@yklocnykl GO SUCK EACHOTHERS DICKS THATS WHAT AZERIS AND TURKS DO TOGETHER

[Hayaserforeveer]

ana kasparOGHLU is NOT Armenian, she is a turkish whore

ana = cenk's lil bitch, she does what he says and she gets paid nicely for it

cenk you are SUCH the typical turkOGHLU liar, NO REAL Armenian would dare hold an Armenian flag next to turks holding their scum ugly blood-soaked flag....no real Armenians would be friendly with any scum turk...thats how I know you're lying cenkOGHLU. typical propagandist, cenk is not even real turk, he is DONMEH-jew (khazar-jews from turGAY)

[NeccoWecco]

Cenk and Ana are a great team

[arenrules777]

keep the borders shut. This protocols dont mean anything to the Armenian People. We will never agree to any peace deals until it includes a turkish recognition of the Armenian Genocide

[AnimationPlantation]

@arenrules777 Open your archives Turkey has invited Armenian Politicians to Turkey to look at the Archives. Also Turkey has agreed to say yes to the "genocide" if England & Russia agree say it happened, after all the English & Russians are the ones who were actually there. People like you spread hate & will rot like your heart already has. Australian doesn't agree about the so called "genocide" because ANZACS know how their P.O.W's were treated.

[arenrules777]

@AnimationPlantation Our Archives are open, if people want to look at turkish archives they have to go through a tough time to do so. Many turkish authors have gone into these archives and discovered that the genocide happened, they even wrote books talking about it. The Russians did recognize the Armenian genocide. If turkey wanted to recognize this fact they would have done it. The whole world knows about the genocide of the Armenians,its time you guys knew to

[AnimationPlantation]

@arenrules777 Mate your lying but Im sure you will fool some people here who don't read & get their information from heavy metal bands (SOAD) & crap from the internet. The Armenians have "NOT" opened their achieves, if they have opened them where are they? Well no matter what you & I say it doesn't amount to anything until Turkey agree to it which will never happen therefor the "genocide" never happened. If it did happen why doesn't the world courts charge Turkey? Peace for both nations.

[AnimationPlantation]

@arenrules777 By the way Im Australian not Turkish. We don't believe it here because the Turks treated our ANZAC P.O.W's with respect & honour during WW1 we find it very hard to believe here.

[arenrules777]

@AnimationPlantation the reason that they didnt do anything to the Australians was because killing the Australians wasnt part of their plans. There plans were to create a turkey for turks only, no Armenians, no greeks no kurds. They had nothing to gain by killing your people.

[AnimationPlantation]

@arenrules777 Thats funny because there is many Armenians in Turkey who are making a fortune even the elites in the country but you don't see Turks allowed to do that in Armenia. Anyways you two nations are like fucking babies pointing fingers at each other when there is more to be gained by shaking hands. By the way what was Armenia's plans when they helped Hitler in WW2?

[arenrules777]

@AnimationPlantation The Armenians making a fortune in turkey? That is very funny because the armenians are treated like second class citizens. Those Armenians who are making a fortune were forced to change their last name to a turkish last name. The Armenians are persucuted in turkey, remember that they killed Hrant Dink. And if their were turks in Armenia they would be allowed to, but their is not turks in Armenia because they closed the border in 1993

[AnimationPlantation]

@arenrules777 Thats total bullshit I've been to both countries spoke to Armenians as an outsider they told me the people starting shit are the Armenians & Turks who don't even live in the country they are filling their own pockets out of the misery of their own kind.

[arenrules777]

@AnimationPlantation and what kind of shit do the Armenians and turks start?

[AnimationPlantation]

@arenrules777 HATE! They start hate & they don't even  live in their mother lands they get fat in 1st world countries & have nothing better to. They make themselves richer while their brothers & sisters at home suffer. They only care about making their wallets fat nothing more maybe less.

[arenrules777]

@AnimationPlantation The reason for hating the turks is simple. They first commit genocide, then they take us off our historical lands, and once Armenia gets independent they shut down their borders in protest of Armenians winning a war that Azerbaijan started. Now they forced Armenia to sign this pro turkish protocol that lists their preconditions. The Armenians want peace, but it can be only achieved if turkey accepts is past and apologizes

[AnimationPlantation]

@arenrules777 So you hate a entire race for what the politicians are doing? That seems kinda wrong from a one human to another. No one forced Armenia to do anything its the politicians who did it which seems like the right thing to do rather than let your people starve. What you are saying sounds like what America & England have been doing for years but they aren't bad because they have a different invisible friend. Armenians have their own genocide they have to feel guilty about the Azari's.

[arenrules777]

@AnimationPlantation what the hell are you saying. I am pretty sure you are a turk trying to pretencd to be Austrailian because no non Armenian or non turkish person is this spirited about the Armenian genocide. And the Armenians didnt do anthing to the Azeris, they massacred Armenians, go and learn some history. Azeries commited the Shushi massacres, Sumgait and baku pogroms, kirovabad massacres and many morfe. Please learn some real history

[AnimationPlantation]

@arenrules777 Its because my grandfather was a POW of the Turks during WW1 he said that the Turks are an honourable people. So I believe my grandfather who was there. Your history is distorted from the truth & mixed with bullshit religions. See how whenever someone from the outside looks in you guys accuse them of being Turks? Only someone as passionate as you about a bullshit cause would be an outsider to Armenia when the truth is Armenians & Turks can coexist.

[AnimationPlantation]

@arenrules777 For starters you guys are blaming the wrong government the Ottomans have been abolished so BAM you guys are even.

[arenrules777]

@AnimationPlantation ok still the new turkish government should acknowledge what the former government of thier country did to their citizens. Why did the germans compensate the jews, it wasnt their government who commited the holocoust, it was the nazi government. Turkey should acknowledge what the ottoman turks did to the Armenians just like the modern german government acknowledged what the nazis did to the jews

[AnimationPlantation]

@arenrules777 Oh the Germans who only recently put the PKK under its terrorist watch list? Is this the Germany who supplies PKK & other terrorists with mines & ammunition? The Armenian-American don't just want recognition they want a piece of the Turks land & billions in compensation. Turks & Armenians live side by side in Turkey in peace its the UltraNationalists who don't want this. When America Invaded Iraq the Armenian lobbyists jumped on the bash Muslims bandwagon like they did during WW1.

[arenrules777]

@AnimationPlantation And the reason that the Armenians helped the nazis in WWII was to fight against the SovietUnion so that they would weaken and Armenia would become independent. On the other side their were 300000 Armenians serving in the Soviet Army to fight against hitler.

[meronmotors]

@arenrules777 They dont need, they had nothing to do with it...why should they take the embarresment? Everyone knows it most probably happend so thats all their is to it. No turks participated or know anyone who did. They had nothing to do with it. I dislike islam as much as the next guy but turks dont need to reckognize it. Armenians are hurting our relationship with turkey by making america reckognize it. Turkey is a much more important ally then armenia. I also would like to make a point

[meronmotors]

@arenrules777 post #2 what the turks did was horrible but armenians like to cover up in the United states what caused this. It was World War One and people were killing everywhere. The central powers were losing the war against the allies. So what are the armenians doing during all this? They were collaborating with the western allies!. The turks were outraged and we all know what the penalty of treason is...death. Its a shame they wiped out everyone though. Thats a war crime we know but its war

[Skywalker83]

Armenia should leave Krabagh and it's foreign Lobbies should not Press other Goverments to reconize so called "armenian Genocide", then Turkey will open it's Borders !

[Arstim]

@Skywalker83

Karabakh is not Turkey's issue, so fuck you.

[Skywalker83]

@Arstim

Moron, the Azeris are our Brothers and belong to the same Turkic Oguz Group ! When they need our Help, we help them !

Phuck yourself, armoscum !

[Arstim]

@Skywalker83

Yeah, you're right, you belong to the same mountain gipsy people as they do

[kespec]

@VartanMamikonian

"ARKADAS turkey is a fake nation with a fake army full with the shit of the former DDR. you even could not handle a bunch of kurdish PKK-fighters..so go and eat a döner kebab and shut your stinky mouth."

due to the boycott you are now in germany.

[TurkishMujahid]

the young turks is a ridiculous american tv show ... there is nothing TURKISH about the so called young turks radioshow they can go to hell with there pro american secular ideas ...

[tzorik72]

МЫ АРМЯНЕ ПОЗИТИВНЫ . И ЭТО ДОКАЗАТЕЛЬСТВО ВСЕМУ МИРУ , МЫ МИРНЫ НАРОД , НАС УБЫВАЛИ , ПРИШЛО ВРЕМЯ ТУРКАМ ОТВЕТИТЬ ЗА ПРИЗНАНИЕ ГЕНОЦИДА ...

[ikilicoglu]

Great to see Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian in Russia Today! Love to Turkey, Armenia AND Russia!

[MkVahagn]

Vengeance4Me79 youa are son of a bich. All Anglo-Saxon man gays and pedophiles

[kontragerilla]

ich liebe diese frau, ana kasparian, sie ist umwerfend.

[ELEMENYE]

Hier schreiben einige ja mal wieder drauf los ohne einen blassen Schimmer vom Thema zu haben. Die Türkei war es, die für eine Aufklärung der Sachlage ihr Archiv bereitstellen wollte, allerdings wehrte sich die armenische Regierung dagegen. Hier von einem politisch gesehenen Völkermord zu sprechen, ohne eindeutige Beweislage ist meiner Meinung nach "unwestlich".

[creanus]

This is bullshit.

[CompuFox2006]

Who the hell do this dirtbags think they are speaking on behalf of Armenian community here is US? Theoretical is your Turkish murderer sponsored radio show. These two patzers obviously have no clue as to what the reality is or have been paid to say what they are saying. Have you f__king forgotten that many Armenians are here in US for the reason that their families have been evicted, murdered, and their properties seized by Young Turks??? F__k you, F__k your show, and F__k your commentaries

[Alphonzen]

Your anger is misdirected.

Although I am not a spokesman for the two, Im pretty sure they both acknowledge the armenian genocide, condemn it and are in favour of universal recognition of this grave and terrible hour of armenian history.

I can understand your pain, but you can direct your energy more positively.

[desant444]

you guys dumb like sheep. Just go kill urself. Have you ever read history? if yes, then you probably read armenian history books, which are consist of much bs information. Thats why kill urself. We are gonna kick ur ass so bad

[BaklavaRecipe]

omg young turkssss  i love them both

[ataturd]

Ana, Turkey has a illegal Blockade against Armenia so these protocols are silly.

[ana001]

very true, so I don't understand why we have to make concessions to turkey to open a border that had no right to be closed in the 1st place. BTW ataturd? I love the name lollllllll.

[kespec]

turks made you a favor, instead of destroying your whole country they spared your life and punished you with just a boycott, just be pleased and shut the fuck up. you stupid dick

your nickname is very offensing. you fucker

[ataturd]

@kespec Im Glad you like my name... turds can't do shit, they tried and failed in Genocide since they are mutts and have no true history... ataturd sold them on a dream and now that dream is going to disappear when the AKP destroys the kemalists!

[kespec]

you should pray for AKP to not manage it. or islamofacism wll take Turkey over.

and armenians destiny will be sealed.

but you are lucky that not such a thing is happening as Kemalism is not a concrete thing to be destroyed.

[ataturd]

@kespec Well the Armenians Destiny will never be sealed since because of the failed attempt at Genocide, the Armenian Diaspora was formed...

I also don't think that Kemalism can be completely destroyed but now there is an internal struggle within modern Turkey between the AKP and the old powers. Take a look at the cage plan.. Ergenekon <- old Kemalist gaurd.

[kespec]

@ataturd

are you so that naive? Ergenekon is just a tag attached to kemalists in order to justify any means against kemalist structure within the powers(legislative, executive, judiciary). there isnt something called ergenekon who commits chaotic deeds, they are just men who would jeapordize the plans of islamists.

despite all the efforts, what they cant realize; one dies, a thousand born.

[desant444]

keep dreaming basdards. I know that we will return it. If russia and other countries like france doesn't help you, you are nothing except bunch of rats. Thats why y'all gonna die soon.

[ana001]

that's a nice story mongol. you losers couldn't win back ARTSAKH if we dropped in your lap. you know why? because you turds are genetically preprogrammed to FAIL. and before you make funny "threats" again, remember the last time you losers did that...well you remember what happened I don't need to remind you.

[nabasdak]

that anna girl is a fool, has she not seen the protests in Armenia!

[turbobro9]

Common man....thats a bit harsh. Not every Armenian is against the protocols, I've seen some polls that had it close to 50/50. Most of the Diaspora is against it for two reasons, one, because most of them are direct decendents of Genocide survivors and two because they don't live in Armenia thus their lives aren't effected by the closed borders. I belive in open borders without any preconditions and as far as I've read, there really are no preconditions.

[nabasdak]

r u a fool as well or just can't read?

Precondition # 1 for FORFEITING LEGAL CLAIMS TO ARMENIAN LANDS: Confirming the mutual recognition of the existing border between the two countries as defined by relevant treaties of international law

[turbobro9]

First off, be respectful. If you honestly believe that Armenia will receive even an inch of Easter Anatolia, youre simply being unrealistic and naive. You can't lose something you don't have. On those lands today live 6 million Muslims, theres no international body in the world that can force Turkey to hand those lands to Armenia. Turkey took over almost half of Cyprus in 1974, 36 years have passed and no one has been able to do anything about it.

[nabasdak]

if you sit comfortably, do nothing, give up hope, and support protocols that take away your rights, of course you're not getting any land. Turkey is a country hanging on by a force of facism and brain washing, their population is nearly half kurds lacking freedoms and looking for sovereignty. They have problems with all its neighbors and are surviving with a military might that is unsustainable. With enough pressure and right diplomacy they will collapse as did the ottoman empire!

[turbobro9]

What are you saying man, this is pure delusion or better yet wishful thinking. You exaggerate the Kurdish population and just the fact that youre obsessed with gaining land when the real problem for Armenia is a declining population simply shows ur primitive thinking.Those things you said about Turkey also apply to Armenia,the only difference is Armenias situation is 50 times worst. Sorry to say man,but that kind of talk has blind nationalism written all over it, it has no intellectual value.

[nabasdak]

i think im talking to a turk.

[nabasdak]

precondition #2, DENYING THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE: Implement a dialogue on the historical dimension with the aim to restore mutual confidence between the two nations, including an impartial and scientific examination of the historical records and archives to define existing problems and formulate recommendations;

Most in diaspora and Armenia want open borders, but not with Armenia's capitulation. There is currently gov't controld information blockade in Armenia regarding preconditions.

[turbobro9]

Thats not denying the Genocide, just because the two countries form a commission doesn't all of the sudden nullify the last 95 years of study and research. Armenians have been able to advance their view of the events to the international world better than Turkey has, we simply have a logical edge, no Armenian should feel afraid to discuss and defend our views regarding what happend. At the end of the day, neither Turkey or Armenia is going anywhere, we have to start from somewhere.

[nabasdak]

Turkey has had the condition of putting aside genocide recognition for 17 years since its closure of the border. This unlimited historical study is a ploy they use successfully as they did with creation of TARC, to remove genocide recognition off the table in foreign countries, especially the US. If you're naive enough to believe this study is for anything else but to deny and stop genocide recognition, i have no other words for you.

[turbobro9]

Of course it is an attempt to drag out the process, no doubt, but it is still no serious threat, like I said before, Armenia has a clear logical edge and any country that can afford Turkeys blackmail will eventually recognize the event. Consequently,what Armenia is getting in return is much more valuable. Armenias priority right now is improving the economy which is the bases for everything, including a sustainable population as well as the safety and security of Karabakh, this is common sense.

[nabasdak]

the economy can improve ten times more compared with opening of the border, with the right internal policies, removal of corruption and monopolies which prohibit competition and growth!

[ana001]

the safety and security of karabagh are the last thing on the armenian govts. mind, because if they were they wouldn't sign the protocols... this is common sense.

[ana001]

actually 90% of ARMENIANS whether at home or abroad are against the protocols, the other 10% are serzhiks family, filthy oligarchs, and some of the very few who have lost all touch with reality... like yourself.

[turbobro9]

ya right..thats a lie, when this whole thing started, groong posted a poll,it was around 52 against and 48 for it. Secondly, ofcourse most diasporans will vote against it, why,because they can afford to, but go ask the people living in Armenian border villages whether they are for or against the borders being opened.I can assure you,most all are for open borders. There is even a news report on youtube which showes property prices rising in border areas simply due to speculation of open borders.

[nabasdak]

I have property right by the border/arax river, work there and spent most of my time with villagers there. We are all for open borders and will certainly benefit from it, but none of us want it at the conditions turkey is putting on us! most of the villagers where i am are decedents of the genocide and fled to soviet armenia to survive, after seeing the preconditions they wanted to murder those who were lying to them saying there are no preconditions.

[ana001]

so now most people are for open borders? Have you spoken to all these people? No? Then keep your assurances to urself. What r u going to tell me next....serjik's nominated for a nobel peace prize? I've lived almost my entire life in Arm so don't presume to tell me how ppl. there live since I know it better than some DIASPORAN who gets all his info from serjik's "presidential" website. Funny how these closed borders don't affect the lifestyles of the dodi gagos and vartaniks of arm. I wonder why.

[desant444]

Conflicted suck my diK. Look at the map u dumba55. Nagro- Karabagh is Azerbaijanian lands. We will return our lands SooN. Wait For Us. And we will occupie whole armenia, which is old Azerbaijanian lands

[PeopleOfAr]

in your dreams mongol. That is your land mongolia. Go there. Old Azerbaijan never existed. The land was called Albania a Christian nation and a very close ally to the Armenians. "old" Azerbaijan was a northern province of Iran. Go complain there or in your turk mongolia. Now you go look at the map of your "old" Azerbaijan and cry like a bitch because it never existed. Lying idiots you dont even have your own language wtf are you even talking about, old Azerbaijan haahahha

[ArmenianNetwork]

When soon ? It's been 15 years, are you waiting for another 20 ? Your president is scared because next time we will take Baku

[ana001]

keep dreaming azerbaboon, with all your oil money you still can't can't come up with a decent army to do ANYTHING much less "take" armenia, but thanks for the laugh.

[ConflictedYouth]

Karabakh is and will be Armenian