Ha! I love that goof in the first line. And then to go on and sing the aria so beautifully and expressively without compromising the full nature of his voice... One of the most beautiful, non-exaggerated renditions of this aria I've heard! Thanks for posting it. IMO, Hines had the most beautiful bass voice of the last 100 years: warm, bright and ringy as a bell--qualities that had to be heard live. And he COULD and DID lighten up to sing things like Papageno's arias very musically.
ma che dice: vecchio T E A T R O ?! AHAHAHAHAHAH. E che dice poi a 054 "passar nelle tue F O D E ?! Mammamia. E a 0.57 un portamentone discendente "coooooome in antri tanquilli". TERRIBILE!!!
People who listen to opera don't care about technique as long as it's pleasing to the ear & the soul. Singing's much more than a set of rules on where to place the voice and which muscle to use to produce a sound; It goes way beyond that & NO one can argue that this isn't a sublime voice that transcends technique & music theory & all those inventions of the human intellect in their quest to analyze & measure something as inexplicable as the feelings that this man transmits in each note he sings.
This recording comes from a point in Hines' career when he was suffering from some vocal troubles, as he himself writes. Hines left the opera scene shortly after when this recording was made, only to return later even more magnificent than when he was in his earlier prime. It is sad people should have to argue over one of the opera's world best, and it is unfair to use this recording to generalize about Hines' entire career and vocal technique.
@WhiteProfondo if you had any knowledge of proper technique you would realize what a miracle this man's voice was...
sure his interpretation is questionable in this particular aria, but my God there is no bass alive that has a voice as magnificent, warm, thrilling and MASSIVE as jerome hines...
can you not heard the cheers coming from the crowd at the end?..
consider yourself the only one who dislikes jerome hines.
youre such an idiot whiteprofundo. you put the worst recording of a singer online and criticize them for it. Such a shallow, low-blow. You arent fooling anyone with these antics. Everyone has an off day. And, who are you by the way, i never heard of you. Jerome Hines is more popular and more respected, dead than you are alive! Ha.
Gianfranco Cecchelle is an italian tenor. I just mentioned him as someone with a 'pumped' sound and stylistic and vocal defects, but who I love nonetheless. Similar perhaps to being a Hines or Mario del Monaco (tenor) fan. Anyway, I am always hoping to hear a good (opera) bass voice in the theatre, but it is a rarity. So good luck to you ;-)
@montallio You're right about Cecchele...he started out as a wonderful lyric tenor but within a 4-5 year period, he ruined his natural beautiful voice for a more forced and artificial one.
Once again I have to agree with WP. But there are other recordings of Hines that are more favourable. Any singer has flaws even, in my opinion 1 of the best technicians, the late Pav. and it is permissable to discuss them. It is not fair to answer critisism with insults like "you're a fake" or "pendantic". Listen to G. Tozzi's 'O tu Palermo' as contrast with this performance. I think way more musical and not because Tozzi had the voice of a mouse. By the way what do you think of Cecchelle WP?
...just to finish with that thought, he could actually lighten his sound considerably and be more perfect with musicality etc.. ..but then he would just wind up sounding like every other mortal bass. He simply chose to go the other way and stand out. Kudos to him for being able to do so and still maintain an acceptable level of musicianship and for his incredible stamina and longevity. This is a testament to his incredible talent AND technique to be able to sound like that.
Having taken some lessons from Hines I can tell you that he knew quite well what he was doing. He had a naturally monster truck of a voice and on top of that he chose to sing with "heft." This did not permit him to have a lyrical "perfectly technical" sounding voice but man, what an exciting sound he had...it's one of those voices that you just have to hear live to appreciate. The recordings just bring out the flaws but you don't experience the full effect of that glorious voice.
Terrible technique? Hines kept his voice intact until his death--well into his eighties. Even then, his voice was a magnificent instrument. And Hines had an active carrer, spanning five decades.
His enunciation is excellent and his singing acting quite eloquent. You seem to think there's only one method of singing. Balderdash and bullshit. Hines was a superb singer, hard working, and a great human being, who likely knew more about the human voice than you dream exists.
Listen guy, I´m also a quite good singer and I just wrote my opinion about this interpretation here,ok?
EACH singing teacher would tell you more than 20 mistakes in that short piece, I guarantee you that!
You can be sure, that I know about singing problems when a bass gets older, but to say, THIS was a great performance, than you´re nothing more like small and stupid fool.And yes: there IS only one real singing technique!
No, Hines was not a god. It sounds like you know some pedantic teachers, WP, and pedants bore me. Only rarely does such a teacher impart true knowledge, instead of some simpleminded "by the BOOK" pronouncements. And what singing technique would you be talking about? The one taught by Porpora? Should there be only one style? Is bel canto your god? And why not upload a sample of your voice? I saw that you also dissed Ghiaurov. Have you a better voice than all of them? If so, PROVE it!
Ok, once more; I repeat that I JUST analysed his singing-style because I´m a professional singer too and it´s natural that I´m looking for the details of "great singers"(which is simply stupid, I´ve heard so many good singers but they have problems with themselves- psychic and communication problems)to learn more about myself and so I see what I do better and worse; thats it.
You don't make yourself look or sound better by denigrating other singers or other artists. Why not tell us what you can do, instead of putting others down? Telling us a technique is terrible is not analyzing, it's a mere put down, with no validity. e.g.-If you point out that a bass is hitting a top E with the same technique he uses to sing the E 2 octaves below, you are providing us with good info. I would like to hear your voice. Maybe you put Hines to shame. I would respect a try on your part
I just don´t have the ambition to explain each word of my meanings; I do that when I´m talking. Watching youtube-videos is working for me; not showing people what I can do! You see, it´s so easy: Some people write: "Oh, he´s the best" What I´m trying to say is that those great singers, which is absolutely clear, because otherwise I would not see such a video, also do mistakes and people can read, THAT they aren´t that great as everybody thinks!
Now, you are coming across as a fake. Show me how good you are, instead of raining on other singers' parades. Otherwise, all your "Hines makes mistakes!" tirades come across as you being a sourpuss who has no voice and no talent, attacking dead people who are not around to defend themselves. Come on, Profondo, show us what you got; or shut the hell up.
What you are hearing is a terrible recording. Hines had a great deal of top in his voice that recordings never seem to capture but he had a far richer tone than almost any bass, especially a bass baritone which is what he really was in spite of his extended range. Even so, I never thought this role was congenial to him. He lends it far too much gravitas. These are Bohemians, after all. Tozzi, if he sang on pitch, did this very well and was suited to it.
This was the April 16,1966 radio broaddcast performance.Hines sings"Vecchia Theatro",which he mentions in one of his writings.He also mentioned that he was prepared for Bing to have fired him after that improvisation.Mario Sereni was Marcello,and Clifford Harvout was Schaunard.
his Sarastro is way better...here he seems to be injured, or ?
CelesteGabriel 6 months ago
Ha! I love that goof in the first line. And then to go on and sing the aria so beautifully and expressively without compromising the full nature of his voice... One of the most beautiful, non-exaggerated renditions of this aria I've heard! Thanks for posting it. IMO, Hines had the most beautiful bass voice of the last 100 years: warm, bright and ringy as a bell--qualities that had to be heard live. And he COULD and DID lighten up to sing things like Papageno's arias very musically.
luckymortal 10 months ago
ma che dice: vecchio T E A T R O ?! AHAHAHAHAHAH. E che dice poi a 054 "passar nelle tue F O D E ?! Mammamia. E a 0.57 un portamentone discendente "coooooome in antri tanquilli". TERRIBILE!!!
unounotre 1 year ago
People who listen to opera don't care about technique as long as it's pleasing to the ear & the soul. Singing's much more than a set of rules on where to place the voice and which muscle to use to produce a sound; It goes way beyond that & NO one can argue that this isn't a sublime voice that transcends technique & music theory & all those inventions of the human intellect in their quest to analyze & measure something as inexplicable as the feelings that this man transmits in each note he sings.
aribv 1 year ago
This recording comes from a point in Hines' career when he was suffering from some vocal troubles, as he himself writes. Hines left the opera scene shortly after when this recording was made, only to return later even more magnificent than when he was in his earlier prime. It is sad people should have to argue over one of the opera's world best, and it is unfair to use this recording to generalize about Hines' entire career and vocal technique.
Jozh487 1 year ago 2
@WhiteProfondo if you had any knowledge of proper technique you would realize what a miracle this man's voice was...
sure his interpretation is questionable in this particular aria, but my God there is no bass alive that has a voice as magnificent, warm, thrilling and MASSIVE as jerome hines...
can you not heard the cheers coming from the crowd at the end?..
consider yourself the only one who dislikes jerome hines.
dimoaar 1 year ago
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youre such an idiot whiteprofundo. you put the worst recording of a singer online and criticize them for it. Such a shallow, low-blow. You arent fooling anyone with these antics. Everyone has an off day. And, who are you by the way, i never heard of you. Jerome Hines is more popular and more respected, dead than you are alive! Ha.
bassodivo 2 years ago
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bassodivo 2 years ago
Gianfranco Cecchelle is an italian tenor. I just mentioned him as someone with a 'pumped' sound and stylistic and vocal defects, but who I love nonetheless. Similar perhaps to being a Hines or Mario del Monaco (tenor) fan. Anyway, I am always hoping to hear a good (opera) bass voice in the theatre, but it is a rarity. So good luck to you ;-)
montallio 2 years ago
@montallio You're right about Cecchele...he started out as a wonderful lyric tenor but within a 4-5 year period, he ruined his natural beautiful voice for a more forced and artificial one.
Operafiend22 1 year ago
Once again I have to agree with WP. But there are other recordings of Hines that are more favourable. Any singer has flaws even, in my opinion 1 of the best technicians, the late Pav. and it is permissable to discuss them. It is not fair to answer critisism with insults like "you're a fake" or "pendantic". Listen to G. Tozzi's 'O tu Palermo' as contrast with this performance. I think way more musical and not because Tozzi had the voice of a mouse. By the way what do you think of Cecchelle WP?
montallio 2 years ago
...just to finish with that thought, he could actually lighten his sound considerably and be more perfect with musicality etc.. ..but then he would just wind up sounding like every other mortal bass. He simply chose to go the other way and stand out. Kudos to him for being able to do so and still maintain an acceptable level of musicianship and for his incredible stamina and longevity. This is a testament to his incredible talent AND technique to be able to sound like that.
rricardocoppel 2 years ago
Having taken some lessons from Hines I can tell you that he knew quite well what he was doing. He had a naturally monster truck of a voice and on top of that he chose to sing with "heft." This did not permit him to have a lyrical "perfectly technical" sounding voice but man, what an exciting sound he had...it's one of those voices that you just have to hear live to appreciate. The recordings just bring out the flaws but you don't experience the full effect of that glorious voice.
rricardocoppel 2 years ago
Ha! Now I KNOW you're ignorant.
dynomax101 2 years ago
Terrible technique? Hines kept his voice intact until his death--well into his eighties. Even then, his voice was a magnificent instrument. And Hines had an active carrer, spanning five decades.
His enunciation is excellent and his singing acting quite eloquent. You seem to think there's only one method of singing. Balderdash and bullshit. Hines was a superb singer, hard working, and a great human being, who likely knew more about the human voice than you dream exists.
dynomax101 2 years ago
Haha, oh my god, you sound like he´s a god^^.
Listen guy, I´m also a quite good singer and I just wrote my opinion about this interpretation here,ok?
EACH singing teacher would tell you more than 20 mistakes in that short piece, I guarantee you that!
You can be sure, that I know about singing problems when a bass gets older, but to say, THIS was a great performance, than you´re nothing more like small and stupid fool.And yes: there IS only one real singing technique!
WhiteProfondo 2 years ago
No, Hines was not a god. It sounds like you know some pedantic teachers, WP, and pedants bore me. Only rarely does such a teacher impart true knowledge, instead of some simpleminded "by the BOOK" pronouncements. And what singing technique would you be talking about? The one taught by Porpora? Should there be only one style? Is bel canto your god? And why not upload a sample of your voice? I saw that you also dissed Ghiaurov. Have you a better voice than all of them? If so, PROVE it!
dynomax101 2 years ago
Ok, once more; I repeat that I JUST analysed his singing-style because I´m a professional singer too and it´s natural that I´m looking for the details of "great singers"(which is simply stupid, I´ve heard so many good singers but they have problems with themselves- psychic and communication problems)to learn more about myself and so I see what I do better and worse; thats it.
WhiteProfondo 2 years ago
You don't make yourself look or sound better by denigrating other singers or other artists. Why not tell us what you can do, instead of putting others down? Telling us a technique is terrible is not analyzing, it's a mere put down, with no validity. e.g.-If you point out that a bass is hitting a top E with the same technique he uses to sing the E 2 octaves below, you are providing us with good info. I would like to hear your voice. Maybe you put Hines to shame. I would respect a try on your part
dynomax101 2 years ago
I just don´t have the ambition to explain each word of my meanings; I do that when I´m talking. Watching youtube-videos is working for me; not showing people what I can do! You see, it´s so easy: Some people write: "Oh, he´s the best" What I´m trying to say is that those great singers, which is absolutely clear, because otherwise I would not see such a video, also do mistakes and people can read, THAT they aren´t that great as everybody thinks!
WhiteProfondo 2 years ago
Now, you are coming across as a fake. Show me how good you are, instead of raining on other singers' parades. Otherwise, all your "Hines makes mistakes!" tirades come across as you being a sourpuss who has no voice and no talent, attacking dead people who are not around to defend themselves. Come on, Profondo, show us what you got; or shut the hell up.
dynomax101 2 years ago
idiotic comment :-(
ZdenekKlauda 2 years ago
Why you´re so unkind? I just wrote my opinion , nothing more. I´m a bass myself and I think that I know what I´m talking about.
WhiteProfondo 2 years ago
Jerome Hines is THE BEST BASS EVER! No doubt! Please listen all of his recordings and then make some opinions..
ZdenekKlauda 2 years ago
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ZdenekKlauda 2 years ago
What you are hearing is a terrible recording. Hines had a great deal of top in his voice that recordings never seem to capture but he had a far richer tone than almost any bass, especially a bass baritone which is what he really was in spite of his extended range. Even so, I never thought this role was congenial to him. He lends it far too much gravitas. These are Bohemians, after all. Tozzi, if he sang on pitch, did this very well and was suited to it.
hephaestion81 2 years ago
thank you for explanation
antanioz 2 years ago
This was the last performance at the old Met. That's why he sang "Vecchia Teatro" instead of "Vecchia Zimarra"!
Beautiful voice, wonderful singer.
linguine99 2 years ago
Tienes toda la razón, no me había dado cuenta.
Interesantísimo dato, saludos.
Gerardeus 2 years ago
A great singer singing pretty poorly. Sorry- but he's all over the place.
steve1fennelly 3 years ago 4
yes....his interpretation is also off...much too loud for this aria
jhgreenhorn 2 years ago
This was the April 16,1966 radio broaddcast performance.Hines sings"Vecchia Theatro",which he mentions in one of his writings.He also mentioned that he was prepared for Bing to have fired him after that improvisation.Mario Sereni was Marcello,and Clifford Harvout was Schaunard.
Varsonoviev 3 years ago
where was this performed?
ARReith 3 years ago