"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality." Nikola Tesla
You are an interesting debater. I like the point that you can use equations to try to understand reality but that reality itself is not a set of equations. Great video.
*sigh* Schrodinger's cat is annoying because a lot of people draw the irrational conclusion that reality (not just our understanding of reality) is entirely subjective, or that every possible outcome is simultaneously true (somehow), I actually heard Michio Kaku of all people (perhaps not surprisingly) say this on The Infidel Guy Show. I don't really know how they reach such conclusions because they don't seem to logically follow from the thought experiment and seem to miss the point.
"peace. love. harmony" You love mongerer!! How could you promote peace, love and harmony?.....What's the big deal man? So they make a film that (to sum it up) says think kind thoughts toward urself and ur companion.. sounds kinda like good common sense.. then they back it up with the water crystal experiment.. sounds cool to me. So the average person knows nothing about anything (scientifically speaking) however if you get people loving themselves or others-- what the bleep is wrong with that?
"On second thoughts, let us not go to Bleepalot - it is a silly place!"
It is a place where the mathematicians have taken over policy decisions, and where Gravitic Knights can overpower warriors with 10^39 times their strength!
@Changeling9au "On second thoughts, let us not go to Bleepalot - it is a silly place!" -- oh man i couldn't stop laughing... i watched the link you posted, i have a lot to say on the subject, but i would first like to know what exactly your specific take on what it said.
I'm new to the EU-theory, so I have little to say about it except that so far I find it makes a lot of sense. I stumbled across it while researching the Catastrophist theories of Immanuel Velikovsky and his intellectual descendants like David Talbott. The EU model does help provide a mechanism to explain how Velikovsky's theory can have traction, as gravity alone can't.
What I do find curious is that Velikovsky's work has not only been ridiculed or ignored by....
...the scientific priesthood...erhum...I mean, establishment, it has all but been ignored by the so-called "Truth Movement" who seem to prefer embracing exotic alien theories (as per Sitchin, etc.) to explain the same phenomena as Velikovsky was, or to freak themselves out with "Occult Masonic Kabbalistic Zionist Satanist" symbols and their associated theories - most of which involve the...gasp...shock..."ANTI-CHRIST"...[wipes sweat of brow].
I think you're one of the good guys because you like cats. I saw a video where an atheist presents this cat argument to a creationist in Hungtington Beach and Creationist presents good arguments against it. If you want I can send you the link
@StopFear I watched only part 1. Well unfortunately for the "scientific" dude, the creationist is just sharper than he is + the "scientific" doesn't really understand what he's talking about... I have great discussions with religious people (arguments are futile) and i think i would do a much better job at making the "case for science" on this matter than the guy in the clip does. But i'll watch the other parts now. For now the creationist is pwning him with no doubt.
@StopFear Wow i would love to debate that guy - he's a worthy adversary, sharp and quick... though i will pwn him of course but he might make it a little hard. Thanks for pointing this to me. an absolute joy. Ok i'm going back to it now.
When I heard that the maker of "The Secret" had said that the Indian Ocean tsunami where 200,000 people were killed in 2004 "Must have been caused by those people sending tsunami type vibrations into the universe", I nearly shit myself with disbelief.
I thought Yes Of Course! when you are on the beach surrounded by palm trees, pina colada in your hand, watching scantly dressed hotties walk around in G strings, what you really want is a big fucking wave to come along and kill everyone.
@lovellespice I think basically he belonged to the CE, but maybe i'm wrong. In any case he was deeply religious but he did hold certain beliefs that deviated from the church's teachings. Maybe i'll post a lecture about it.
@lovellespice AND your point is. I was pist when the pope came throught my town and shut down my street, and talk shit about him to anyone in town. In fact he grew up here and people arnt to happy with him either. Religion is a crutch, Deism is the closest i will get to it. I dont need a bullshit corrupt system to tell me im a sinner. SO fuck Mozart Tolkien and may others.
@xLowLightx yah fuck them..! they're just genius overachievers who want to rub it in our noses that their talent comes from their God and shit.. I mean what business is it of theirs if people wanna continue clinging to their anger and bitterness at the world because they are mediocre and live in loserville..
@lovellespice OK look just because there geniuses and overachievers doesnt make me anything less. Im sorry i dont live in the states anymore i work and i take care of mine doesnt make me less of a person. Im sorry if you got offended by my reference towards religion and some musician which i am as well. So dont get but hurt over something that was made by man that is false.
@xLowLightx I'm not offended at all.. are you? it would seem that way.. anyway.. good luck on your music.. and if you have the time do listen to Bach.. I would suggest you google "Bach and God" it is written by an atheist (an honest one at that) and outlines precisely the relationship of faith and personal achievement..
@lovellespice I have listened to bach and ive done my research on religion and ill give you the same answer. Religion is a crutch. Its more like an ole wifes tale. Honestly religion that we know today is based from further in the past then we think. Most of what people believe to day as the truth is the lie. Defiantly not the way it started. Alot of there so-called geniuses or virtuosos were supposedly highly religious were playboys, what for fait that forgives everything.
The quantum crap ties in seamlessly with the whole self-help industry with it's obsession with positive thinking. Have you seen "the secret"? People who buy into it need help, and there are a lot's of them.
To the new-age hippies : positive thinking does not affect reality. It might affect the way you see the world or your mood, but that's it. Thoughts are an emergent property of the physical world, not the other way around.
@slipcurve I had a friend who was deeply into that BS so i just asked him: "Are you so saying that kids are starving in Africa because they are negative or that they can stop starving by being positive". BUT wait until my next video because it deals EXACTLY with that positive thinking thing and i would love some critical comments there because i will show something that might point to the contrary of our shared belief on the subject.
I can't wait. I'm always steaming at the "positive thinking directly affects the world" people. I'm not against being positive, but going into "la-la"-land and thinking it's going to make things better is insanity.
Hmm dont like the new age wacko atheists that claim the universe and everything in it came from - .. NOTHING..?
On the other hand i dont like the religious non-sense teachings, of how god will be angry at you if you eat pork, and will send you to hell and so on..
@shining3210 The assertion that the universe came from nothing is very appealing because then you don't need any type of predecessor being or effect (which then requires another one and another one and another one). And it is POSSIBLE that the universe did indeed come from nothing at least as far as the science goes. However i think it's irresponsible to make this observation a clear and cut case at the state of knowledge we are at.
@Joniversity Look, the genetic code of the human being is made of 3 billion dna combinations.
Who/what made those form us? We obviously have not made ourselves. So nothing made us and our world? I find this extremly imposible to believe.
It will be just like me saying, that windows was created and designed by no one.
The most sophisticated and complex thing in the universe, and still barely learned and known, is the human brain. People dont know much about it, yet conclude that "nothing" made it
"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality." Nikola Tesla
Your ending explanation reminded me of this.
bobbymay2509 1 month ago
You are an interesting debater. I like the point that you can use equations to try to understand reality but that reality itself is not a set of equations. Great video.
scooterguy86 2 months ago
@scooterguy86 Thanks :-)
Joniversity 2 months ago
Oh man, I just went through this with a woo-head, and it was a waste of time. I feel your pain!
amaxamon 4 months ago
I was going to do a video on Schrodinger's Cat. Good stuff!
EricZombie 1 year ago
@EricZombie if you wish you can mirror it, or use any of the graphics i made for it. Glad you liked it.
Joniversity 1 year ago
*sigh* Schrodinger's cat is annoying because a lot of people draw the irrational conclusion that reality (not just our understanding of reality) is entirely subjective, or that every possible outcome is simultaneously true (somehow), I actually heard Michio Kaku of all people (perhaps not surprisingly) say this on The Infidel Guy Show. I don't really know how they reach such conclusions because they don't seem to logically follow from the thought experiment and seem to miss the point.
PrestonwoodCowards 1 year ago
"peace. love. harmony" You love mongerer!! How could you promote peace, love and harmony?.....What's the big deal man? So they make a film that (to sum it up) says think kind thoughts toward urself and ur companion.. sounds kinda like good common sense.. then they back it up with the water crystal experiment.. sounds cool to me. So the average person knows nothing about anything (scientifically speaking) however if you get people loving themselves or others-- what the bleep is wrong with that?
EndRacism2011 1 year ago 2
"sir not appearing in this movie" :)
OccidentalSoapbox 1 year ago
@OccidentalSoapbox "On second thoughts, let us not go to Bleepalot - it is a silly place!"
-- from Chageling9au's comment :-)
Joniversity 1 year ago
"On second thoughts, let us not go to Bleepalot - it is a silly place!"
It is a place where the mathematicians have taken over policy decisions, and where Gravitic Knights can overpower warriors with 10^39 times their strength!
watch?v=akM9KNEv_JE
Changeling9au 1 year ago
@Changeling9au "On second thoughts, let us not go to Bleepalot - it is a silly place!" -- oh man i couldn't stop laughing... i watched the link you posted, i have a lot to say on the subject, but i would first like to know what exactly your specific take on what it said.
Joniversity 1 year ago
@Joniversity
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I'm new to the EU-theory, so I have little to say about it except that so far I find it makes a lot of sense. I stumbled across it while researching the Catastrophist theories of Immanuel Velikovsky and his intellectual descendants like David Talbott. The EU model does help provide a mechanism to explain how Velikovsky's theory can have traction, as gravity alone can't.
What I do find curious is that Velikovsky's work has not only been ridiculed or ignored by....
Changeling9au 1 year ago
@Joniversity
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...the scientific priesthood...erhum...I mean, establishment, it has all but been ignored by the so-called "Truth Movement" who seem to prefer embracing exotic alien theories (as per Sitchin, etc.) to explain the same phenomena as Velikovsky was, or to freak themselves out with "Occult Masonic Kabbalistic Zionist Satanist" symbols and their associated theories - most of which involve the...gasp...shock..."ANTI-CHRIST"...[wipes sweat of brow].
btw - check out watch?v=luVjkTEIoJc
Changeling9au 1 year ago
@Joniversity
Oh! Nearly forgot - the YT channel Thunderboltsproject has videos which go into the links between catastrophism and EU theory.
Some other interesting sites are Thunderbolts inf0
holoscience c0m
saturniancosmology 0rg
watch?v=5EaUA8KYt7Q
Changeling9au 1 year ago
hey you need to do blogtv. id be there
xLowLightx 1 year ago
My cat walked across my keyboard and made your video vanish!
finitube 1 year ago
New line in the ol' song "Don't know much about Quantam Mechanics".
4Ugrunt 1 year ago
Whats more cute jonni or the kittie :P ?
Fiorentina222 1 year ago
If you check my channel I have videos of my cat, which is just like yours.
StopFear 1 year ago
I think you're one of the good guys because you like cats. I saw a video where an atheist presents this cat argument to a creationist in Hungtington Beach and Creationist presents good arguments against it. If you want I can send you the link
StopFear 1 year ago
@StopFear Sure! i would love to!
Joniversity 1 year ago
@StopFear I watched only part 1. Well unfortunately for the "scientific" dude, the creationist is just sharper than he is + the "scientific" doesn't really understand what he's talking about... I have great discussions with religious people (arguments are futile) and i think i would do a much better job at making the "case for science" on this matter than the guy in the clip does. But i'll watch the other parts now. For now the creationist is pwning him with no doubt.
Joniversity 1 year ago
@StopFear Wow i would love to debate that guy - he's a worthy adversary, sharp and quick... though i will pwn him of course but he might make it a little hard. Thanks for pointing this to me. an absolute joy. Ok i'm going back to it now.
Joniversity 1 year ago
I think you're one of the good guys, because you like cats.
StopFear 1 year ago
When I heard that the maker of "The Secret" had said that the Indian Ocean tsunami where 200,000 people were killed in 2004 "Must have been caused by those people sending tsunami type vibrations into the universe", I nearly shit myself with disbelief.
I thought Yes Of Course! when you are on the beach surrounded by palm trees, pina colada in your hand, watching scantly dressed hotties walk around in G strings, what you really want is a big fucking wave to come along and kill everyone.
123backinyerface 1 year ago
@123backinyerface Well at least they didn't blame the Jews :-)
Joniversity 1 year ago
@Joniversity LMFAO!! XD
123backinyerface 1 year ago
Wow ok brain fried but a good fry. Learn something new every day. But i thought Newton was a Deists.
xLowLightx 1 year ago
@xLowLightx Newton was Catholic. Deist my ass.
lovellespice 1 year ago
@lovellespice I think basically he belonged to the CE, but maybe i'm wrong. In any case he was deeply religious but he did hold certain beliefs that deviated from the church's teachings. Maybe i'll post a lecture about it.
Joniversity 1 year ago
@Joniversity yah he was kind of a dabbler..
lovellespice 1 year ago
@lovellespice hey i never said for certain i merely ask ok im sorry i forgot to put a question mark. Smart ass. Like being a catholic is any better.
xLowLightx 1 year ago
@xLowLightx Mozart would resent your comment. So would Tolkien.. and many others..
lovellespice 1 year ago
@lovellespice AND your point is. I was pist when the pope came throught my town and shut down my street, and talk shit about him to anyone in town. In fact he grew up here and people arnt to happy with him either. Religion is a crutch, Deism is the closest i will get to it. I dont need a bullshit corrupt system to tell me im a sinner. SO fuck Mozart Tolkien and may others.
xLowLightx 1 year ago
@xLowLightx yah fuck them..! they're just genius overachievers who want to rub it in our noses that their talent comes from their God and shit.. I mean what business is it of theirs if people wanna continue clinging to their anger and bitterness at the world because they are mediocre and live in loserville..
lovellespice 1 year ago
@lovellespice OK look just because there geniuses and overachievers doesnt make me anything less. Im sorry i dont live in the states anymore i work and i take care of mine doesnt make me less of a person. Im sorry if you got offended by my reference towards religion and some musician which i am as well. So dont get but hurt over something that was made by man that is false.
xLowLightx 1 year ago
@xLowLightx I'm not offended at all.. are you? it would seem that way.. anyway.. good luck on your music.. and if you have the time do listen to Bach.. I would suggest you google "Bach and God" it is written by an atheist (an honest one at that) and outlines precisely the relationship of faith and personal achievement..
lovellespice 1 year ago
@lovellespice I have listened to bach and ive done my research on religion and ill give you the same answer. Religion is a crutch. Its more like an ole wifes tale. Honestly religion that we know today is based from further in the past then we think. Most of what people believe to day as the truth is the lie. Defiantly not the way it started. Alot of there so-called geniuses or virtuosos were supposedly highly religious were playboys, what for fait that forgives everything.
xLowLightx 1 year ago
@xLowLightx Look at the positive side.: There's nothing like a good brain fry to get you want to get drunk ;-)
Joniversity 1 year ago
@Joniversity lol ya and getting drunk is what im doing.
xLowLightx 1 year ago
The quantum crap ties in seamlessly with the whole self-help industry with it's obsession with positive thinking. Have you seen "the secret"? People who buy into it need help, and there are a lot's of them.
To the new-age hippies : positive thinking does not affect reality. It might affect the way you see the world or your mood, but that's it. Thoughts are an emergent property of the physical world, not the other way around.
slipcurve 1 year ago
@slipcurve I had a friend who was deeply into that BS so i just asked him: "Are you so saying that kids are starving in Africa because they are negative or that they can stop starving by being positive". BUT wait until my next video because it deals EXACTLY with that positive thinking thing and i would love some critical comments there because i will show something that might point to the contrary of our shared belief on the subject.
Joniversity 1 year ago
@Joniversity
I can't wait. I'm always steaming at the "positive thinking directly affects the world" people. I'm not against being positive, but going into "la-la"-land and thinking it's going to make things better is insanity.
slipcurve 1 year ago
@slipcurve I'm going to quote on that in my vid.
Joniversity 1 year ago
@Joniversity
I don't know if you'll find this helpful to your video or not, but it ties into what we're talking about. I think you'll find it interesting :
watch?v=u5um8QWWRvo
slipcurve 1 year ago
@slipcurve /watch?v=gZ10qbpvCh4 ... enjoy :-)
Joniversity 1 year ago
that's a cute cat.. it probably resents being manhandled like that..
lovellespice 1 year ago
@lovellespice Well you should see how he cathandles me, not to speak about what he's doing to the poor dog :-)
Joniversity 1 year ago
@Joniversity yah cats are superior that way..
lovellespice 1 year ago
Hmm dont like the new age wacko atheists that claim the universe and everything in it came from - .. NOTHING..?
On the other hand i dont like the religious non-sense teachings, of how god will be angry at you if you eat pork, and will send you to hell and so on..
The world is going moronic indeed.
shining3210 1 year ago
@shining3210 The assertion that the universe came from nothing is very appealing because then you don't need any type of predecessor being or effect (which then requires another one and another one and another one). And it is POSSIBLE that the universe did indeed come from nothing at least as far as the science goes. However i think it's irresponsible to make this observation a clear and cut case at the state of knowledge we are at.
Joniversity 1 year ago
@Joniversity Look, the genetic code of the human being is made of 3 billion dna combinations.
Who/what made those form us? We obviously have not made ourselves. So nothing made us and our world? I find this extremly imposible to believe.
It will be just like me saying, that windows was created and designed by no one.
The most sophisticated and complex thing in the universe, and still barely learned and known, is the human brain. People dont know much about it, yet conclude that "nothing" made it
shining3210 1 year ago
Peace right back at you.
Templehatchet 1 year ago
@Templehatchet Amen ;-)
Joniversity 1 year ago