I hope I look as good as Bill does when I'm his age... he's almost 56 and he looks like he's in his late 30's. Yes I know he has makeup on for his show, but even without it he still looks much younger than his age. We're not designed to eat all these chemicals, we are organisms and need natural foods. Yes we occasionally need things like antibiotics to kill germs but as the saying goes "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."
As much as I find Maher repulsive a broken clock is still right twice a day and he is right on here. Pharmaceuticals are poisons and in many cases purposesly poisonous because they could not PATENT a natural healing substance so they patent poisons. Bill Maher is rigth here, the Terrain is everything the Germ is nothing. Stay healthy eat well, supplement with the best nutrients and keep your temple pure and strong and you wont need toxins.
I agree with a lot of what Bill Maher say, but this is a load of absolute, uneducated CRAP. Yes, pharmaceutical companies push drugs that are not needed, and doctors OVER prescibe drugs, but by saying "All drugs are poisons" and enciting people not to take them is not only wrong, but dangerous. I've now lost a HUGE amount of respect for him
While there is a point in that people eat too much crap and do take too much meds, Bill Maher uses it as a platform to defend bullshit alternative medicine and even goes so far to claim it can cure cancer and Big Pharma is holding it back for that reason. The supposed rationalist who made a whole film bashing crazy religious people embraces crazy New Age paranoid nonsense.
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Look at the mess our county is in now. Why do you think companies, American companies don't hire young Americans? Why is our economy in the tank? We have a diluted drug ridden society and we have been high as hell while the rest of the world for the past 30 years has not been on drugs. This is your county. This is your country on drugs. Do your research and remember the all mighty dollars calls the shots - not what is best for the masses.
Bizarre rant. Really bizarre. Where did he get these ridiculous notions. I really hope he doesnt take any drugs and antibiotics in this case! I hope he gets a staphylococcus infection in his heart and then gets an MRSA infection from the surgical implements! We'll see if he's still so against the "poison". Moron! If he had anyone on that show with even a small knowledge base in science they could fucking pwn him.
@pkearne It's not so "bizarre" when you consider that medical treatment is the third leading cause of deaths in this country (JAMA and the World Health Education Initiative). I've personally been on the receiving end of medical care that has gone horribly wrong and I have many health problems now because of that. I am no longer on any of the medications that made me so sick and am doing much better for it... I don't think I am in any way an isolated incident either.
That I would love to punch him in the face? No,, that's all me. That he is a drug addled idiot,, he admits it and talks about it. That he is a dbag fuck stick? Pretty obvious as soon as he opens his shit hole.
Bill is right, we have so much access to good food in this country yet we choose to eat dairy meat and process foods. Eat green veggies, fruits, nuts and seeds and stick it to the pharmaceutical companies.
Bottom line: Bill is not a scientist, and his ramblings offer no evidence that he knows anything about biology or science. It *is* the dose that makes the poison. Bill saying that any non-zero amount of a toxin in your body is harmful is completely fallacious and delusional. Just one example: digesting apples naturally creates a safe amount formaldehyde in your digestive tract (this is completely natural). So, apples (and all other fruit) are contributing to bad health. Stop eating fruit now!
Wow; old Bill is a real quack. He's completely full of shit and he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. Great to see another idiot celeb promoting quackery and bullshit.
Anything that is not made by God for us to eat, including some rare herbal supplements found in health food stores, and all types of drugs, junk foods, sugar and butter substitutes, most commercially produced meats and milk, most tap water and household cleaning chemicals, most all the toxins in vaccines, air fresheners, aerosols, some cosmetics, paints etc, man-made junk, tons of scientific journals, studies and research prove, are ALL very toxic poisons.
Bill is 100% right here. I live a lifestyle like him - allergies GONE. Health is fantastic, never get sick. I take zero drugs, no tylenol, nyquil, nothing.
@lucaslmgv man you really know nothing about health. Vaccines go against the theory of health. You never ever introduce foreign substance to the human body. That is just crazy.
Even if it induces the production of antibodies? Well, getting sick of Polio is crazy. I mean, not getting a vaccine is crazy. Antibiotics are pretty harmful but sometimes they'll save your life.
What the fuck are you talking about? Stop promoting YOUR evil. Bill Maher has an extremist opinion on this subjecthe shouldn't condemn all medicines. Some of them actually improve people's lives.
People shouldn't abuse medicines, not avoid all use. What the fuck is wrong with some people?
@lucaslmgv It's not just that people are abusing medications, it's been shown that even people who take their medications in recommended dosages are becoming sick. Some medications are good for the short-term but can cause many health problems if used for too long. And there is a persistent controversy over psychiatric medications, especially the SSRI antidepressants... doctors simply don't know what they do and their efficacy and safety has been challenged by industry insiders.
@lucaslmgv I agree. But we are just using these medications way too much. And a lot of medications are now being used to treat side effects from OTHER meds, NOT to treat actual illnesses! For example: Psychiatric medications can cause upset stomach/acid reflux (so add in a Proton Pump Inhibitor to help with that if you're on an SSRI or an antipsychotic), high cholesterol (so add in a statin drug!), sedation and drowsiness (so add in something like Ritalin or Provigil)...
... Psych meds also have been shown to create hormonal imbalances (so if you're a woman, get on the birth control pill to help with your inconsistent cycles!), worsening of intolerances and allergies (so add in an antihistamine to deal with that like Zyrtec or Claritin), constipation (make sure you use MiraLAX so you don't get stopped up while taking your Zoloft!), heart problems like palpitations (better use a beta blocker!), and on and on and on! It's nuts!!!
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He is preaching health. As per my first post, I agree with him on that. Living well is better than treating the symptoms of an unhealthy lifestyle with drugs.
BUT
He is also preaching that, and I quote, "EVERYTHING in the pharmacy is poison." 1:18 He denies the effectiveness of anti-biotics 2:15 and of vaccines.
I wish you guys would stop defending these bad ideas. I am a fan of Maher. But I profoundly disagree with these dangerous ideas...
Vaccines work , antiobiotics work , however The problem that we are using them in an uninteligent way is a bigger problem than the thought that the antiobiotics and the vaccines are bad themselves. More people need to realize the real cause and effects in health issues that leads to the taking of drugs people need to see hrough the marketing trying to target the end-consumer for them to buy more drugs...when you get symptoms taking drugs should be the last not the first thing u do and thatis obv
What I mean is that the given virii or bacteria are more successful where they dont have to compete with others taking up similar resources in a host. That's not to say that healthy fit humans are more likely to get sick. But it is grossly incorrect to say that one is prone to sickness if one takes certain types of medication (in some cases yes, in most cases no).
It is unfortunate that a person like Bill Maher doesn't realize that his anti medication/vaccine messages is almost as blind as religion. He is totally ignorant regarding Medical science.
He just shows complete ignorance about how virii and bacteria work! They prefer healthy hosts... or at least they are more succesful on healthy hosts...
You missed the point completely. Many people are needlessly taking medication they don't need. it is partly the doctors fault (i should know, I am one) for giving into them (e.g. way too many people are on anti depressants and most of them are not clinically depressed) but a large share of the responsibilty lies with the pharmaceutical companies with their manipulative advertising that is targeted at making people feel insecure about their health.
"The lesson to be learned is that EVERYTHING in the pharmacy is poison."
It seems you missed the point of the first 75% of my post, while ignoring Bill's words at 1:18. He is down on ALL pharmaceuticals. At 2:15 he denies the effectiveness of anti-biotics. He can be seen in other videos denying the effectiveness of vaccines.
These ideas are dangerous. Period. They need to be opposed.
I agree with Bill. They are cramming all these god damn drugs down our throat and we are getting even more sick. But the media makes it seem like the drugs are the heroes and its ideal to be on them.
Your a funny person! I was thinking about what you said about the life expectancy and told you about the walking corpse lady. I saw here in a local shop with a friend of mine, she looked dead. She probably was alive because of all the medication she was on! Its not normal to be alive when you should be dead!
What i was originally talking about was spiritual concepts that you must read about to understand.
"its not the mesquito its the swamp", you know he talks about all the other religions but not the scientologists, "I got religion on health" very much scientologist.
He's not "essentially right" at all. He's calling all of modern medicine homeopathy.
I would love to see Bill drink "natural" non-chlorinated water out of pond for a week and see how healthy he is.
Bill's commentary on science pisses me off because a lot of people believe this asshole is more than just an entertainer and that he actually understands science. Those people are going to hear this and stop taking their medicine.
Most idiotic quote ever: "I would never get the flu on a plane".
No, he is not saying all dugs are bad. And he's quite right the western world, especially america, is totally overusing drugs. If someone come to a doctor with something mild, in a european country the doctors are more likely to say "just see if it doesn't pass in a few days" which is usually does, where as your doctors are afraid of being sued and will give people pills all the time. The US have grown immune to many drugs because of your overuse og drugs.
Why didn't they discuss that, I agree with Bill on most of his health ideas but why are people living longer than before steroids, hgh, preservitives, and tons of pharmaceuticals contaminated our lives?
US makes up 6% of world's population and consumes 60% of world's prescription drugs. We're not the healthiest nation in the world. Illicit drugs kill 10-20,000 people per year. Prescription drugs kill more than 100,000. We wage war on one kind and sell Superbowl ads to the other.
No, they don't live longer - the LIFE EXPECTANCY is longer - if you survive comming into the world - last year your infant mortality went up, from 6.8 per thousand live births to 6.9 - then they may live a few months longer - not years. America is 42nd on the list in the world, 20 years ago you were 11th - it is going to hell in a handbasket, and as usual there is only one person pointing it out.
Once I have to disagree with Bill. Some sicknesses can not be prevented by a healthy lifestyle. But he is not completely wrong. Todays medicine (which claims to be based on science) mostly just handle the symptoms and doesn't solve the root of the problem (or even looks for it).
Best example: Cholesterol-lowering drugs. In 01 Lipobay was pulled from the market because it killed 52 people. Instead of reducing their consumption of meat they swallowed a pill. If you eat shit you'll get sick.
Well, he's essentially right of course. Not that all pharmaceuticals are poison, of course, but we live in a drug mad time which is hugely money driven. Not only the foods we eat, which are so chemical loaded, but also the percentage of us on prescription drugs ALL the time! Drugs for this symptom, drugs for that, more drugs to counteract the side effects of the first, and yet we continue dining on crap. Mother's milk is so toxic now it wouldn't pass regulations for a grocery.
He's not "essentially right" at all. He's calling all of modern medicine homeopathy.
I would love to see Bill drink "natural" non-chlorinated water out of pond for a week and see how healthy he is.
Bill's commentary on science pisses me off because a lot of people believe this asshole is more than just an entertainer and that he actually understands science. Those people are going to hear this and stop taking their medicine.
Most idiotic quote ever: "I would never get the flu on a plane".
His basic critic is correct: We won't stop getting sick unless we stop making ourself sick.
Of course the flu-quote is wrong. But still: A person with a weak immune system is much more likely to catch the flu.
Todays medicine spends way to much on treating symptoms (restless leg syndrom) and way to less on prevention (fast food, smoking, ...). Prevention isn't even seen as part of medicine anymore.
"We won't stop getting sick unless we stop making ourself sick."
The methods he proposes aren't more exercise and healthier eating. He's proposing getting rid of chlorinated water and calling all the medication in a pharmacy poison.
Your critique of modern medicine is fair, but your defense of Maher is not. What Maher is saying is not even remotely similar to your points.
ive also seen bill rip on bottled water more than once, chlorine is in tapwater, and I was simply asking why people are LIVING LONGER, not that that is the definition of healthy living.
I'm just pissed at the way he's so afraid to lose his job by talking about the tower collapse
He actually called for eating healthy and exercise in many of his other shows. But apparently you haven't seen those. Otherwise you would not make such a statement.
This is about my love of science and reason that I hold above any devotion to celebrity. I'm sorry you don't think the same.
What's funny to me is that you agree with me that he is wrong. Then you say I'm taking his statements out of context, but don't tell me how I'm taking them out of context.
You say you can take Bill's statements and "put them into a context". Well, I challenge you to try and do it.
While your at it, expose yourself to a little science and read up on water chlorination.
LOL, the context for the statements he made on this show can only be found by watching his other shows. I've never heard anything so ridiculous in my life.
"You denied to watch them."
I didn't deny to watch them. You failed to refer me to them. So please, tell me exactly what other clips I need to see to understand the context of this bullshit.
No, what is ridiculous is that you're saying I have to watch 3 other shows he's appeared in to understand the context of statements that he made in this episode.
BTW, I listed not one, but three very stupid remarks that you refuse to defend.
After watching your cited videos, Bill critiques the drug war, lack of preventive medicine, and the over prescription of drugs in America.
I agree with him on every issue.
However, it does not provide any context to the statements he made in this show.
wow, how revolutionary, exercise and healthy eating. the point is that it's impossible for average income americans to eat healthy, what choices do you have. you would need an herbalist and a cook like maher has. he was going about making his health critiques the right way until he made these outrageous claims last week, he is off base. there is a huge difference between sticking a needle in your ass with HGH than there is eating chicken from the grocery store.
- cost: I simply can't believe that cooking the meals yourself for a familiy is more expensive than McDonalds
- education: This is what I'm talking about. You don't have to have a degree or a personal Chef to do so. There are simple rules the people could be taught while they are in school: meat at most three times a week, vegetables three times a day.
This is no revolutionary idea but if people actually acted according to it the cancerrate would drop like flies.
"His basic critic is correct." You are right, all of his "critics" are correct. Go eat some more celery until you get witty and realize that people have a right to live their life how they choose it...burgers and milkshakes with atorvastatin on the side. Private companies have come up with one of the greatest medicines of the past century. And guess what,they were driven to make them for profits. You don't like that? Move out of America.
Second: The first amendment gives me the right to express my opinion. And even if this WOULD BE anti-corporation I still would have this right. Last time I looked capitalism wasn't part of the constition.
Third: I don't question the basic development of medications. I just question their motives: Because of that motives they bring drugs on the market that are unsafe or even completly unnecessary.
If the next Herceptin, Gleevec, Lipitor, meant 10 people had to die from drug X. So be it! AIDS is a fucking chronic disease now. Those drugs aren't free. Pharm companies are making them for a profit and if not, they wont be made.I don't care you are a vegan. Don't make assumptions that a healthy diet solves most problems. If you can create better drugs to treat "the root of the problem" and not just the symptoms then go ahead and do it.
Where you find those top causes of death? Bill Maher's encyclopedia? Is "bad medication" a joke or from a real source? Its HD, Cancer, Stroke, COPD. People are going to die no matter what. And you're right, the risk is reduced for HD with smarter eating and statins lower that risk as well. Cancer, doubtful. Most cancer deaths are smoking related. Nearly all COPD is caused by smoking. And drugs don't come with labels saying this medication is 100% safe. There's a drug insert for a reason
Here is the science, if you aren't a complete moron you will recognize scientific studies.
In 1994, an estimated 2,216,000 (1,721,000 to 2,711,000) hospitalized patients had serious adverse drug reactions (ADRs) and 106,000 (76,000 to 137,000) had fatal ADRs, making these reactions between the fourth and sixth leading cause of death.
Fatal ADRs accounted for 0.32 percent (95 percent confidence interval (CI), 0.23 percent to 0.41 percent) of hospitalized patients.
Well I guess over a decade ago, you weren't as dumb as you are now. Who the fuck are you anyway, some conspiracy theorist? AIDS and polio? Don't talk and sound like a crackjob. On so many levels you are wrong, contradicting yourself, and arguing the wrong point. Do you even know how to read a scientific article, or medical article for that matter, and understand what it says except that it is statistically significant?
The number of new HIV-infections went down in western countries until the "life sciences" claimed that a cure for AIDS is just a matter of time. Since then the number is rising again.
Prevention is currently the best way to reduce the number of death. And the opinion HIV would be curable harms that effort.
You are blaming people for being optimistic that they can bring hope to millions of people infected? That's downright cruel. You should be blaming the humanity's natural tendencies. How is it the "life sciences'" fault that some idiot decided to not use a condom because he thinks a cure will be available tomorrow? Please that argument was weak.
You are an idiot if you truly believe what you wrote...I suppose you have never heard the possibility that AIDS came from the polio vaccine? The number ONE cause of death in the US is doctors and medication...that is according to articles published in JAMA (that is the Journal of the American Medical Association!)
So you said here it is number ONE. Then you said it is between 4 and 6. Make up your mind. First, you should look at data from the CDC for 2005+ not at 1994. Second, make sure you look at what age group you are referring to. Third, fatal ADRs, which often happen, are over 75% due to drugs with narrow therapeutic windows such as Warfarin. These patients were presented with the option of a high chance of dying soon versus taking a dangerous drug that may prolong their life and QOL significantly.
So you are trying to bring up that HIV may have come from the polio vaccine. So you are clinging to a theory that hasn't held any weight in science for more than second. What is your point anyway?
Forth: A big part of medicine should be prevention. Most people would prefer to not get sick in the first place instead of taking drugs against the symptoms.
Are you part of the medical establishment? Do you think most doctors promote statins, angioplasty, and gastric bypass as the better alternative to weight loss and healthier living? Patients want them becuase they don't want to or have trouble making lifestyle changes. Pharm companies can't make drugs without getting paid. If they don't sell some of their useless drugs then they can't make some of the true lifesavers.
Also, with the advent of statins and people smoking less (on the decline in men, still somewhat increasing in women), HD deaths are decreasing significantly. Cancer will soon become the most common cause of death. And I'm sorry, you can't prevent all cancers with just the right food. Unless you can prevent estrogen/progesterone from ever circulating in a woman's body how are you going to prevent the most common female cancer?
Yes. Who's forcing these people to buy drugs anyway. All drugs have risks. If people can't understand that, its their problem. Once again, who is then going to pay for the research? How does a company continue to operate if it loses money? Money makes the world go round...and it makes people create some fantastic drugs too.
The drug companies wouldn't do any research if they don't expect the drug to pay of for itself. There is simply no excuse for the made up diseases (restless leg syndrome).
By the way: I never objected to the fact that pharm companies do research for profit or that a lot of useful medications were invented in the last hundred years.
It's laughable that something exists called RLS. Guess what, they created it cause thousands of spouses/partners kept getting kicked in the night and they complained that they won't sleep with the other person unless they stop. And those with it, kept living a life they felt never had one restful night of sleep. But why do you care? Its up to the patient to take it. Very few doctors will purposefully prescribe medications to their patient with the knowledge the risks outweigh the benefits.
Well, I have to agree with your comment that he's just an entertainer and doesn't actually understand science. And you're right about the flu comment. I was sorry there was no one there to bring up Misho Kushi's wife and daughter, who both died of cancer.
However, your love of science could use a little perspective too. Just consider the level of iatrogenic disease, if you don't want to daydream about what science in 500 years will think of our science, lol.
i love bill maher but i hate how everybody in the audience wants to suck his d
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I hope I look as good as Bill does when I'm his age... he's almost 56 and he looks like he's in his late 30's. Yes I know he has makeup on for his show, but even without it he still looks much younger than his age. We're not designed to eat all these chemicals, we are organisms and need natural foods. Yes we occasionally need things like antibiotics to kill germs but as the saying goes "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."
mwr7483 3 months ago
As much as I find Maher repulsive a broken clock is still right twice a day and he is right on here. Pharmaceuticals are poisons and in many cases purposesly poisonous because they could not PATENT a natural healing substance so they patent poisons. Bill Maher is rigth here, the Terrain is everything the Germ is nothing. Stay healthy eat well, supplement with the best nutrients and keep your temple pure and strong and you wont need toxins.
007jjb 4 months ago
I agree with a lot of what Bill Maher say, but this is a load of absolute, uneducated CRAP. Yes, pharmaceutical companies push drugs that are not needed, and doctors OVER prescibe drugs, but by saying "All drugs are poisons" and enciting people not to take them is not only wrong, but dangerous. I've now lost a HUGE amount of respect for him
TyphonUK 7 months ago
While there is a point in that people eat too much crap and do take too much meds, Bill Maher uses it as a platform to defend bullshit alternative medicine and even goes so far to claim it can cure cancer and Big Pharma is holding it back for that reason. The supposed rationalist who made a whole film bashing crazy religious people embraces crazy New Age paranoid nonsense.
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TheServiceWeb 7 months ago
Actually Bill, any substance can be poison, even water.
This could be solved with better science education, especially for people who plan to preach about science on media outlets, Bill Maher.
I'm sure he won't turn to pharma if he becomes gravely ill and I'm sure he never received vaccines *rolls eyes*.
Bumblybee256 9 months ago
Look at the mess our county is in now. Why do you think companies, American companies don't hire young Americans? Why is our economy in the tank? We have a diluted drug ridden society and we have been high as hell while the rest of the world for the past 30 years has not been on drugs. This is your county. This is your country on drugs. Do your research and remember the all mighty dollars calls the shots - not what is best for the masses.
jpol999 9 months ago
whomever here has a strong immune system thumbs down my comment here.
Copper4head 1 year ago
Bizarre rant. Really bizarre. Where did he get these ridiculous notions. I really hope he doesnt take any drugs and antibiotics in this case! I hope he gets a staphylococcus infection in his heart and then gets an MRSA infection from the surgical implements! We'll see if he's still so against the "poison". Moron! If he had anyone on that show with even a small knowledge base in science they could fucking pwn him.
pkearne 1 year ago
@pkearne It's not so "bizarre" when you consider that medical treatment is the third leading cause of deaths in this country (JAMA and the World Health Education Initiative). I've personally been on the receiving end of medical care that has gone horribly wrong and I have many health problems now because of that. I am no longer on any of the medications that made me so sick and am doing much better for it... I don't think I am in any way an isolated incident either.
ComplexMissy 9 months ago
Maher didn't even get into the bs behind invented things like restless leg syndrome.
steelersguy74 1 year ago
what the fuck is this. chlorine is a poison know matter what the dose?
what the fuck is salt?
collieh1 1 year ago
maher is sure one to talk about drugs being coked up and smoking pot all the time,, he is a dbag. Would love to punch that libtard right in the face!
h20fwler1 1 year ago
@h20fwler1
how do you know?...
because you read it somewhere?
cheeseschrister 1 year ago
@cheeseschrister
That I would love to punch him in the face? No,, that's all me. That he is a drug addled idiot,, he admits it and talks about it. That he is a dbag fuck stick? Pretty obvious as soon as he opens his shit hole.
h20fwler1 1 year ago
Bill is right, we have so much access to good food in this country yet we choose to eat dairy meat and process foods. Eat green veggies, fruits, nuts and seeds and stick it to the pharmaceutical companies.
cepdv 1 year ago 7
@cepdv but i love my vicodins <3
andrew186511 1 month ago
Bottom line: Bill is not a scientist, and his ramblings offer no evidence that he knows anything about biology or science. It *is* the dose that makes the poison. Bill saying that any non-zero amount of a toxin in your body is harmful is completely fallacious and delusional. Just one example: digesting apples naturally creates a safe amount formaldehyde in your digestive tract (this is completely natural). So, apples (and all other fruit) are contributing to bad health. Stop eating fruit now!
majam1n 1 year ago
@majam1n THIS!
Exactly!
pkearne 1 year ago
Wow; old Bill is a real quack. He's completely full of shit and he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. Great to see another idiot celeb promoting quackery and bullshit.
Blndrfist 1 year ago
Anything that is not made by God for us to eat, including some rare herbal supplements found in health food stores, and all types of drugs, junk foods, sugar and butter substitutes, most commercially produced meats and milk, most tap water and household cleaning chemicals, most all the toxins in vaccines, air fresheners, aerosols, some cosmetics, paints etc, man-made junk, tons of scientific journals, studies and research prove, are ALL very toxic poisons.
awesomeagape 1 year ago
@awesomeagape your commenting about god on a bill mayer video.. what an oxy moron
coopmuch56 1 year ago
Bill is 100% right here. I live a lifestyle like him - allergies GONE. Health is fantastic, never get sick. I take zero drugs, no tylenol, nyquil, nothing.
just mostly eat plants with a little meat & pot
MopDMTBARTL 2 years ago
@MopDMTBARTL
Dude, I agree with you 80%
You shouldn't take drugs unless you REALLY need them. But in emergency cases, you should use antibiotics. And vaccines are a must.
If you had tuberculosis, would you take antibiotics?
lucaslmgv 1 year ago
@lucaslmgv man you really know nothing about health. Vaccines go against the theory of health. You never ever introduce foreign substance to the human body. That is just crazy.
zmacy 1 year ago
@zmacy
Even if it induces the production of antibodies? Well, getting sick of Polio is crazy. I mean, not getting a vaccine is crazy. Antibiotics are pretty harmful but sometimes they'll save your life.
lucaslmgv 1 year ago
@lucaslmgv - dude, stop promoting your evil
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MopDMTBARTL 1 year ago
@MopDMTBARTL
What the fuck are you talking about? Stop promoting YOUR evil. Bill Maher has an extremist opinion on this subjecthe shouldn't condemn all medicines. Some of them actually improve people's lives.
People shouldn't abuse medicines, not avoid all use. What the fuck is wrong with some people?
lucaslmgv 1 year ago
@lucaslmgv - re-think
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MopDMTBARTL 1 year ago
@MopDMTBARTL
The link you're sending me is 404ing
lucaslmgv 1 year ago
@lucaslmgv
take the spaces out - in betwen the DOT and the c. As well as in between the DOT and the p.
MopDMTBARTL 1 year ago
@lucaslmgv It's not just that people are abusing medications, it's been shown that even people who take their medications in recommended dosages are becoming sick. Some medications are good for the short-term but can cause many health problems if used for too long. And there is a persistent controversy over psychiatric medications, especially the SSRI antidepressants... doctors simply don't know what they do and their efficacy and safety has been challenged by industry insiders.
ComplexMissy 9 months ago
@ComplexMissy
Psychiatric medications are the most dangerous marketed drugs.
But medicine is not at all bad. Some people really need them, even if there are side effects.
lucaslmgv 9 months ago
@lucaslmgv I agree. But we are just using these medications way too much. And a lot of medications are now being used to treat side effects from OTHER meds, NOT to treat actual illnesses! For example: Psychiatric medications can cause upset stomach/acid reflux (so add in a Proton Pump Inhibitor to help with that if you're on an SSRI or an antipsychotic), high cholesterol (so add in a statin drug!), sedation and drowsiness (so add in something like Ritalin or Provigil)...
ComplexMissy 9 months ago
... Psych meds also have been shown to create hormonal imbalances (so if you're a woman, get on the birth control pill to help with your inconsistent cycles!), worsening of intolerances and allergies (so add in an antihistamine to deal with that like Zyrtec or Claritin), constipation (make sure you use MiraLAX so you don't get stopped up while taking your Zoloft!), heart problems like palpitations (better use a beta blocker!), and on and on and on! It's nuts!!!
ComplexMissy 9 months ago
Of creation. Separated from source intelligence.
Serpentmatrix 2 years ago
The human body is made by the same creator THAT MADE the universe. As above so below. The human body\consciousness together form the most complex technology advanced construction within the universe for infinitive and beyond - because of this; everything unnatural mad made mental construct of truth is a distorted ego byproduct.
Serpentmatrix 2 years ago
He is preaching health. As per my first post, I agree with him on that. Living well is better than treating the symptoms of an unhealthy lifestyle with drugs.
BUT
He is also preaching that, and I quote, "EVERYTHING in the pharmacy is poison." 1:18 He denies the effectiveness of anti-biotics 2:15 and of vaccines.
I wish you guys would stop defending these bad ideas. I am a fan of Maher. But I profoundly disagree with these dangerous ideas...
Prytanus 2 years ago
Vaccines work , antiobiotics work , however The problem that we are using them in an uninteligent way is a bigger problem than the thought that the antiobiotics and the vaccines are bad themselves. More people need to realize the real cause and effects in health issues that leads to the taking of drugs people need to see hrough the marketing trying to target the end-consumer for them to buy more drugs...when you get symptoms taking drugs should be the last not the first thing u do and thatis obv
MURDOCMULDOON 2 years ago
Hmmm. Sounds like we agree then.
Prytanus 2 years ago
What I mean is that the given virii or bacteria are more successful where they dont have to compete with others taking up similar resources in a host. That's not to say that healthy fit humans are more likely to get sick. But it is grossly incorrect to say that one is prone to sickness if one takes certain types of medication (in some cases yes, in most cases no).
pubuman 2 years ago
"oh come on, superman"
organization33 2 years ago
herbs can cure and medicine are poison
dream2last 2 years ago
It is unfortunate that a person like Bill Maher doesn't realize that his anti medication/vaccine messages is almost as blind as religion. He is totally ignorant regarding Medical science.
statickk14 2 years ago
He just shows complete ignorance about how virii and bacteria work! They prefer healthy hosts... or at least they are more succesful on healthy hosts...
pubuman 2 years ago
What the fuck? Bill Maher is being rather retarded here...
pubuman 2 years ago
how the hell do you take valium with xanax?
Nanumir 2 years ago
open your mouth. swallow.
osteriche 2 years ago
"everything in a pharmacy is poison!" What an idiot
joegunn28 3 years ago
you got a point, but so does he
Nanumir 2 years ago
bill maher is a cycle of sickness and treatment based on the symptom not the cause.
CommentGuyy 3 years ago
first time i disagree with maher. I cant completly avoid cutting myself by accident what control do i have there to no take a antibiotic
SvPVids 3 years ago
bill is right its a cycle of sickness and treatment based on the symptom not the cause.
ak47523 3 years ago
I do not agree with Bill (provisionally) on this one.
I agree with him this far...bear with me here, I'm about to write the most profound diet book of all time. Are you ready? ...
EAT RIGHT and EXERCISE.
Bill is right that these things will do more for you than anything else in your life.
BUT
His ideas that all pharm is poison, don't trust doctors, the root cause of all health problems are pharm...
Don't listen to him, folks, you could deprive yourself of a needed treatment.
Prytanus 3 years ago 2
You missed the point completely. Many people are needlessly taking medication they don't need. it is partly the doctors fault (i should know, I am one) for giving into them (e.g. way too many people are on anti depressants and most of them are not clinically depressed) but a large share of the responsibilty lies with the pharmaceutical companies with their manipulative advertising that is targeted at making people feel insecure about their health.
piddleton 2 years ago 5
1:18
"The lesson to be learned is that EVERYTHING in the pharmacy is poison."
It seems you missed the point of the first 75% of my post, while ignoring Bill's words at 1:18. He is down on ALL pharmaceuticals. At 2:15 he denies the effectiveness of anti-biotics. He can be seen in other videos denying the effectiveness of vaccines.
These ideas are dangerous. Period. They need to be opposed.
Prytanus 2 years ago
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lucaslmgv 1 year ago
Bill Maher is so right!!
Tinacwong 3 years ago
I agree with Bill. They are cramming all these god damn drugs down our throat and we are getting even more sick. But the media makes it seem like the drugs are the heroes and its ideal to be on them.
Faridellion 3 years ago
Then why the hell has the life expectancy of humans steadily increased?
pubuman 2 years ago
Not long ago i saw a walking corpse lady. -she smelled funny.
Serpentmatrix 2 years ago
What the hell are you on about?
pubuman 2 years ago
Jesus
Serpentmatrix 2 years ago
Aye? Jesus is a walking corpse lady?! And its a she?!?!?! what the hell is wrong with you?
pubuman 2 years ago
Your a funny person! I was thinking about what you said about the life expectancy and told you about the walking corpse lady. I saw here in a local shop with a friend of mine, she looked dead. She probably was alive because of all the medication she was on! Its not normal to be alive when you should be dead!
What i was originally talking about was spiritual concepts that you must read about to understand.
Serpentmatrix 2 years ago
"its not the mesquito its the swamp", you know he talks about all the other religions but not the scientologists, "I got religion on health" very much scientologist.
burningdwn 3 years ago
He's not "essentially right" at all. He's calling all of modern medicine homeopathy.
I would love to see Bill drink "natural" non-chlorinated water out of pond for a week and see how healthy he is.
Bill's commentary on science pisses me off because a lot of people believe this asshole is more than just an entertainer and that he actually understands science. Those people are going to hear this and stop taking their medicine.
Most idiotic quote ever: "I would never get the flu on a plane".
schulwitz 4 years ago
No, he is not saying all dugs are bad. And he's quite right the western world, especially america, is totally overusing drugs. If someone come to a doctor with something mild, in a european country the doctors are more likely to say "just see if it doesn't pass in a few days" which is usually does, where as your doctors are afraid of being sued and will give people pills all the time. The US have grown immune to many drugs because of your overuse og drugs.
lamtsite 4 years ago
Your critique of the US is that we overprescribe drugs and don't practice preventive medicine, that critique is fair, your defense of Maher is not.
Maher's complaint is that the chlorination of drinking water is harmful. He states that "everything in the pharmacy is poison!"
If you're going to defend Maher, defend the statements quoted above. These are the statements I'm attacking him on.
Your diatribe about the failures of medicine in the US is irrelevant.
schulwitz 4 years ago
he's an entertainer who reads, just like doctors and preachers
kushtravels23 4 years ago
"Americans are living longer than ever before"
Why didn't they discuss that, I agree with Bill on most of his health ideas but why are people living longer than before steroids, hgh, preservitives, and tons of pharmaceuticals contaminated our lives?
kushtravels23 4 years ago
US makes up 6% of world's population and consumes 60% of world's prescription drugs. We're not the healthiest nation in the world. Illicit drugs kill 10-20,000 people per year. Prescription drugs kill more than 100,000. We wage war on one kind and sell Superbowl ads to the other.
ForbusBu 4 years ago
No, they don't live longer - the LIFE EXPECTANCY is longer - if you survive comming into the world - last year your infant mortality went up, from 6.8 per thousand live births to 6.9 - then they may live a few months longer - not years. America is 42nd on the list in the world, 20 years ago you were 11th - it is going to hell in a handbasket, and as usual there is only one person pointing it out.
lamtsite 4 years ago
Once I have to disagree with Bill. Some sicknesses can not be prevented by a healthy lifestyle. But he is not completely wrong. Todays medicine (which claims to be based on science) mostly just handle the symptoms and doesn't solve the root of the problem (or even looks for it).
Best example: Cholesterol-lowering drugs. In 01 Lipobay was pulled from the market because it killed 52 people. Instead of reducing their consumption of meat they swallowed a pill. If you eat shit you'll get sick.
wittyvegan 4 years ago
Well, he's essentially right of course. Not that all pharmaceuticals are poison, of course, but we live in a drug mad time which is hugely money driven. Not only the foods we eat, which are so chemical loaded, but also the percentage of us on prescription drugs ALL the time! Drugs for this symptom, drugs for that, more drugs to counteract the side effects of the first, and yet we continue dining on crap. Mother's milk is so toxic now it wouldn't pass regulations for a grocery.
Terry5135 4 years ago 2
He's not "essentially right" at all. He's calling all of modern medicine homeopathy.
I would love to see Bill drink "natural" non-chlorinated water out of pond for a week and see how healthy he is.
Bill's commentary on science pisses me off because a lot of people believe this asshole is more than just an entertainer and that he actually understands science. Those people are going to hear this and stop taking their medicine.
Most idiotic quote ever: "I would never get the flu on a plane".
schulwitz 4 years ago
His basic critic is correct: We won't stop getting sick unless we stop making ourself sick.
Of course the flu-quote is wrong. But still: A person with a weak immune system is much more likely to catch the flu.
Todays medicine spends way to much on treating symptoms (restless leg syndrom) and way to less on prevention (fast food, smoking, ...). Prevention isn't even seen as part of medicine anymore.
wittyvegan 4 years ago
"We won't stop getting sick unless we stop making ourself sick."
The methods he proposes aren't more exercise and healthier eating. He's proposing getting rid of chlorinated water and calling all the medication in a pharmacy poison.
Your critique of modern medicine is fair, but your defense of Maher is not. What Maher is saying is not even remotely similar to your points.
Please don't try and defend this asshole.
schulwitz 4 years ago
No he doesn't, you are making up lies about what he says because you don't like him personally. If someone is an asshole that seems to be you.
America has dropped to behind countries like singapore and andora, on the list of how long people live. You however feel free to eat shit.
lamtsite 4 years ago
ive also seen bill rip on bottled water more than once, chlorine is in tapwater, and I was simply asking why people are LIVING LONGER, not that that is the definition of healthy living.
I'm just pissed at the way he's so afraid to lose his job by talking about the tower collapse
kushtravels23 4 years ago
He actually called for eating healthy and exercise in many of his other shows. But apparently you haven't seen those. Otherwise you would not make such a statement.
wittyvegan 4 years ago
HOLY FUCK, HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO CORRECT BILL MAHER DEFENDERS!?
I don't give a shit what he says on his other shows, I am criticizing the statements he made in this show, namely:
1. "Everything in the pharmacy is poison"
2. Water chlorination is poison and we'd be better off without it.
If you can defend those two statements and you want to try for a third: "3. I would never get the flu on a plane".
If you can't defend the above statements, don't defend Maher's bullshit.
schulwitz 4 years ago
Words without context are worth nothing.
wittyvegan 4 years ago
1) He is wrong: Poison is defined by the dosage of a substance you take. Almost everything (including water) can kill you if you take enough of it.
2) I don't know enough about that subject to judge this.
3) His chance of getting the flu is less than average but he is not completly save from it.
I don't defend this statements. But I put them into a context. You can make everyone look stupid if you take their statements out of context.
This is not about the truth. It is about your hate of Bill.
wittyvegan 4 years ago
This is about my love of science and reason that I hold above any devotion to celebrity. I'm sorry you don't think the same.
What's funny to me is that you agree with me that he is wrong. Then you say I'm taking his statements out of context, but don't tell me how I'm taking them out of context.
You say you can take Bill's statements and "put them into a context". Well, I challenge you to try and do it.
While your at it, expose yourself to a little science and read up on water chlorination.
schulwitz 4 years ago
Like I said before: The context are the other shows he did. You denied to watch them.
wittyvegan 4 years ago
LOL, the context for the statements he made on this show can only be found by watching his other shows. I've never heard anything so ridiculous in my life.
"You denied to watch them."
I didn't deny to watch them. You failed to refer me to them. So please, tell me exactly what other clips I need to see to understand the context of this bullshit.
schulwitz 4 years ago
You are judging his whole beliefs on the subject because of one stupid remark. Yes: That is ridiculous.
Some of the other videos:
/watch?v=esthFa2-nA4
/watch?v=OXVFmqyains (4:20)
/watch?v=fbECE3AoY-s (3:00)
wittyvegan 4 years ago
No, what is ridiculous is that you're saying I have to watch 3 other shows he's appeared in to understand the context of statements that he made in this episode.
BTW, I listed not one, but three very stupid remarks that you refuse to defend.
After watching your cited videos, Bill critiques the drug war, lack of preventive medicine, and the over prescription of drugs in America.
I agree with him on every issue.
However, it does not provide any context to the statements he made in this show.
schulwitz 4 years ago
wow, how revolutionary, exercise and healthy eating. the point is that it's impossible for average income americans to eat healthy, what choices do you have. you would need an herbalist and a cook like maher has. he was going about making his health critiques the right way until he made these outrageous claims last week, he is off base. there is a huge difference between sticking a needle in your ass with HGH than there is eating chicken from the grocery store.
kushtravels23 4 years ago
Cook your meals yourself. Eat more vegetables, fruits and less meat. How is that expensive?
wittyvegan 4 years ago
because people are not educated, they are addicted to cheap food. as a country we are sick and it isn't necessarily the individuals fault.
kushtravels23 4 years ago
This are two different issues:
- cost: I simply can't believe that cooking the meals yourself for a familiy is more expensive than McDonalds
- education: This is what I'm talking about. You don't have to have a degree or a personal Chef to do so. There are simple rules the people could be taught while they are in school: meat at most three times a week, vegetables three times a day.
This is no revolutionary idea but if people actually acted according to it the cancerrate would drop like flies.
wittyvegan 4 years ago
children eat Mcdonalds, then their children,
kushtravels23 4 years ago
"His basic critic is correct." You are right, all of his "critics" are correct. Go eat some more celery until you get witty and realize that people have a right to live their life how they choose it...burgers and milkshakes with atorvastatin on the side. Private companies have come up with one of the greatest medicines of the past century. And guess what,they were driven to make them for profits. You don't like that? Move out of America.
tonistarks 4 years ago
First of all: I don't force my lifestyle on others. If you feel assault by the pure fact that I am vegan then YOU might have a little problem.
wittyvegan 4 years ago
Second: The first amendment gives me the right to express my opinion. And even if this WOULD BE anti-corporation I still would have this right. Last time I looked capitalism wasn't part of the constition.
wittyvegan 4 years ago
Third: I don't question the basic development of medications. I just question their motives: Because of that motives they bring drugs on the market that are unsafe or even completly unnecessary.
wittyvegan 4 years ago
If the next Herceptin, Gleevec, Lipitor, meant 10 people had to die from drug X. So be it! AIDS is a fucking chronic disease now. Those drugs aren't free. Pharm companies are making them for a profit and if not, they wont be made.I don't care you are a vegan. Don't make assumptions that a healthy diet solves most problems. If you can create better drugs to treat "the root of the problem" and not just the symptoms then go ahead and do it.
tonistarks 4 years ago
The top causes of death in the US are at the current moment: heart failure, cancer and "bad" medication.
- The risk for the first two can be lowered by a healthy lifestyle (ask any doctor).
- The risk of the third one can be lowered by cutting the drug intake to a necessary minimum.
wittyvegan 4 years ago
Where you find those top causes of death? Bill Maher's encyclopedia? Is "bad medication" a joke or from a real source? Its HD, Cancer, Stroke, COPD. People are going to die no matter what. And you're right, the risk is reduced for HD with smarter eating and statins lower that risk as well. Cancer, doubtful. Most cancer deaths are smoking related. Nearly all COPD is caused by smoking. And drugs don't come with labels saying this medication is 100% safe. There's a drug insert for a reason
tonistarks 4 years ago
Here is the science, if you aren't a complete moron you will recognize scientific studies.
In 1994, an estimated 2,216,000 (1,721,000 to 2,711,000) hospitalized patients had serious adverse drug reactions (ADRs) and 106,000 (76,000 to 137,000) had fatal ADRs, making these reactions between the fourth and sixth leading cause of death.
Fatal ADRs accounted for 0.32 percent (95 percent confidence interval (CI), 0.23 percent to 0.41 percent) of hospitalized patients.
atlasdoc2 4 years ago
Well I guess over a decade ago, you weren't as dumb as you are now. Who the fuck are you anyway, some conspiracy theorist? AIDS and polio? Don't talk and sound like a crackjob. On so many levels you are wrong, contradicting yourself, and arguing the wrong point. Do you even know how to read a scientific article, or medical article for that matter, and understand what it says except that it is statistically significant?
tonistarks 4 years ago
The number of new HIV-infections went down in western countries until the "life sciences" claimed that a cure for AIDS is just a matter of time. Since then the number is rising again.
Prevention is currently the best way to reduce the number of death. And the opinion HIV would be curable harms that effort.
wittyvegan 4 years ago
You are blaming people for being optimistic that they can bring hope to millions of people infected? That's downright cruel. You should be blaming the humanity's natural tendencies. How is it the "life sciences'" fault that some idiot decided to not use a condom because he thinks a cure will be available tomorrow? Please that argument was weak.
tonistarks 4 years ago
You are an idiot if you truly believe what you wrote...I suppose you have never heard the possibility that AIDS came from the polio vaccine? The number ONE cause of death in the US is doctors and medication...that is according to articles published in JAMA (that is the Journal of the American Medical Association!)
atlasdoc2 4 years ago
So you said here it is number ONE. Then you said it is between 4 and 6. Make up your mind. First, you should look at data from the CDC for 2005+ not at 1994. Second, make sure you look at what age group you are referring to. Third, fatal ADRs, which often happen, are over 75% due to drugs with narrow therapeutic windows such as Warfarin. These patients were presented with the option of a high chance of dying soon versus taking a dangerous drug that may prolong their life and QOL significantly.
tonistarks 4 years ago
So you are trying to bring up that HIV may have come from the polio vaccine. So you are clinging to a theory that hasn't held any weight in science for more than second. What is your point anyway?
tonistarks 4 years ago
Forth: A big part of medicine should be prevention. Most people would prefer to not get sick in the first place instead of taking drugs against the symptoms.
wittyvegan 4 years ago
Are you part of the medical establishment? Do you think most doctors promote statins, angioplasty, and gastric bypass as the better alternative to weight loss and healthier living? Patients want them becuase they don't want to or have trouble making lifestyle changes. Pharm companies can't make drugs without getting paid. If they don't sell some of their useless drugs then they can't make some of the true lifesavers.
tonistarks 4 years ago
So a lot of people have to pay for unnecessary drugs (and harm their body) to pay for the research for the important ones? You have to be kidding.
wittyvegan 4 years ago
Also, with the advent of statins and people smoking less (on the decline in men, still somewhat increasing in women), HD deaths are decreasing significantly. Cancer will soon become the most common cause of death. And I'm sorry, you can't prevent all cancers with just the right food. Unless you can prevent estrogen/progesterone from ever circulating in a woman's body how are you going to prevent the most common female cancer?
tonistarks 4 years ago
Yes. Who's forcing these people to buy drugs anyway. All drugs have risks. If people can't understand that, its their problem. Once again, who is then going to pay for the research? How does a company continue to operate if it loses money? Money makes the world go round...and it makes people create some fantastic drugs too.
tonistarks 4 years ago
The drug companies wouldn't do any research if they don't expect the drug to pay of for itself. There is simply no excuse for the made up diseases (restless leg syndrome).
By the way: I never objected to the fact that pharm companies do research for profit or that a lot of useful medications were invented in the last hundred years.
wittyvegan 4 years ago
It's laughable that something exists called RLS. Guess what, they created it cause thousands of spouses/partners kept getting kicked in the night and they complained that they won't sleep with the other person unless they stop. And those with it, kept living a life they felt never had one restful night of sleep. But why do you care? Its up to the patient to take it. Very few doctors will purposefully prescribe medications to their patient with the knowledge the risks outweigh the benefits.
tonistarks 4 years ago
Well, I have to agree with your comment that he's just an entertainer and doesn't actually understand science. And you're right about the flu comment. I was sorry there was no one there to bring up Misho Kushi's wife and daughter, who both died of cancer.
However, your love of science could use a little perspective too. Just consider the level of iatrogenic disease, if you don't want to daydream about what science in 500 years will think of our science, lol.
Terry5135 4 years ago