And why was Tom 'put thru the mill?' Because he blatently revealed himself in big global terms to be he is, by complete definition, a self-righteous hypocrite of monumental proportions! Oh yes Tom! You have WON & will for many years wear the publicly detested Graven Image of Ultimate Hypocrisy! :p
you know what would be funny? If tom cruise fell down several flights of stairs became mentally handicap then scientology could consider him a threat of revealing CoS secrets and abandon him like so many others.
Tom Cruise doesn't deserve any sympathy, atleast from my point of view.
He's in Scientology, alright. He is brainwashed by their shit, that's also alright with me. Now he is about to ruin Katie's life and his daughter's life too, and this is the part where it starts to upset me.
@an0nim0uz His daughter's life maybe. I read that Scientology starts auditing at around 4 years old if there are kids. That little girl is going to be so screwed up if they make her do too much of that stuff.
Oprah is part of the New World Order, remember this is the "ONE" meaning Barack Obama, One World Gov. she will not expose the Stars, she envy's them, and will not chance losing her own stardom.
i'm sorry... being used???? anyone who has half a brain can see that Scientology is a CROCK... thus Tom Cruise does not deserve sympathy. End of story.
I would be absolutely fascinated to learn how Tom Cruise first encountered CoS, and what about it appealed to him. I think it's obvious to everyone with a brain that the CoS are using him for good PR, and I actually feel sorry for him. They are systematically destroying a man who probably started out as a pretty decent human being. I hope someone finds a way to rescue him and his family, soon; before CoS ruins his children, as well.
Oh sure, years from now if you decide you want to leave they try to ruin your reputation, sue you, and even keep you from seeing your friends and family. Sounds lovely doesn't it?
Tory and others like her can help people in that "church" more than you realize and I applaud what they're doing.
It seems to me(she did not reply to me once i aksed he about it) Tory wont or cant offer anything instead of Sc, BUT a life as it was without SC(its not her words but some other Anon i asked the same). but it cannot be offered while Sc exists.
I don't quite follow you, are you saying former members won't be able to cope without Scientology? People all over the world (billions of us in fact) get along quite nicely without Scientology.
She's even said that she isn't against the church itself, just some of the things it does (ie - fair game policy, disconnection, etc). She even liked some of the courses she took but there is WAAAY too much baggage that comes with any benefit you might receive.
People come and go.I dont know all the reasons. Im not saying that Scilons wont be able to cope without Sc.They just wont live Sc. Sc will continue regardless to the attempts of Tory or whoever is because anons - are not as organized as Sc's.they'll never be - unless they create Sc like org. In Sc there is a lot of people who dedicate their time and fanatically follow the goal to"clear"the planet. anons - are just a bunch of guys who fight for fun. in time some of them will live,family and stuff
I'm not an anon. And, try taking a look at the ever-expanding list of deaths. If it were one or two, MAYBE they could argue it away. But, not THIS many.
Well you can say that im just as far serious as it all makes any sense. My point is - that Sc status - no so straight as it could seem. Info about it - as well. I mean c'mon man - look around - this world not so transparent as it could seem. Sc's Anona Illuminati, and so on - there is more to it then raising children and tooth cleaning every morning.
oh oh oh...and that point alone - makes me quite tolerant to Sc. I cannot just deny it -cause a lot of "guys" tell me that i should. But a lot of others do not think similarly. In a world were people opinions manipulated and a lot of things shown in a light which is far from truth that idealism alarms me.
My opinion is based upon research that I have done. And, I resent the suggestion that I've been manipulated. The bad reputation that Scientology currently has, is through their own violations of human rights, and negligent homicide.
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ok. seriously - what "research" there can be done?About murders and so on. I mean remember JFK - are you shure that Lee Oswald was the killer? My point is that in THIS world - you can believe only what you know. And you cannot listen either side.
you know Magoo,you are one of the most intelligent people i have ever heard speak about Tom and Scientology.I know nothing about it,except what ppl say,and most of it is NEGATIVE!! It makes me a little upset,because i DO like Tom!But i would like to know the facts also!!!!
that was the greatest insult for me. What he said about SPs being just history.
They are obviously against free speech, what about the people like me that enjoy the sinful, hateful, the ones that preach about destruction, if its a negative thought theyre just going to freakin audit us?!
They need to learn, that a person will never mature if they dont know and acknowledge their darker side
People are boycotting Tom's latest movie because he is the "poster boy" for Scientology--some family members of the character he plays in the Valkeri movie are critics of Scientology. It's too bad because there are some great actors in that film--it is a good film in spite of Cruise, not because he has the staring role.
No I am saying this same battle has been fought for decades by saner, voices, which include parents, patients, MDs, nutritionists, offering an in depth exploration and clinical expertise, sometimes involving a multi prong approach to an often complex problem. And sometimes drugs ARE necessary.
It's been done without the knowledge, consent or assistance (or funding) of Bully-Org.
Co$ has their heads so far up their idiot asses, they have no idea what's going on in the world around them.
Not necessarily. It's interesting they single out psychiatry. There are many vocal critics of the strong-hold the medical establishment and drug cos. have over health (not just in psychiatry). They have had their names smeared, been falsely discredited, had misinformation disseminated about them, been victims of coerced judges, bogus witnesses and unorthodox court proceedings.
But they THEMSELVES are not accused of being CONTROLLING demagogues like Co$ with some sinister intent.
IN fact based on court transcripts and the accounts of patients and qualified professionals and attorneys, the tactics of the Co$ is remarkably similar to those they criticise. But I think Co$ is more dangerous.
Sounds like they've taken the earnest research of others and in their institutionalized-ignorance and blind-stupor allegiance, misapplied it or taken it far out of context, not caring whether someone dies or not.
Not to mention lying has been revealed as policy at Co$.
There's no point in anyone who has never been affiliated with the church of scientology to publicly discredit the church. No need for Bunker or others who have never been in scientology to talk with expertise about scientology. They have nothing but second hand accounts for proof. Find people that experienced it for credibility issues, because otherwise it's hearsay. I also know people will hop aboard anything that seems to be true without searching for the answers themselves.
I think Bunker is very credible. Gary Null has never worked for the NCI or NIH but as an investigative journalist, whose research is unparalleled, he won awards for his "Medical Genocide" series along with other articles.
I went to a Scientology Church in Irvine, California. They did this free evaluation to see what I'm weak at then they tried to sell me programs recommended for my weakness. I felt like I was at the bank.lol Long story short, I took off letting them know that they were willing to help people with money and not a poor student like me. lol That was my first and last experience at a scientology church. Does this sound familiar to you?
The only honest thing L Ron ever said was that he set the cult up as a money making racket, it's well documented. A church is only a cult that got big.
I don't believe in anything but am probably a million times more spiritual than any $cientologist you're ever likely to meet.
The only thing they believe in is money. YOUR MONEY! L Ron said so.
One day Tom will discover this and then the fun will really start. He's thick and lonely but he's not stupid.
the problem is that when you use scientology terms, you say them like they are common knowledge. most people don't know what an sp is. i hope to god most people never find out. l ron's dictionary should be burned and buried.
as long as you call yourself an "sp", using their stupid-ass made up childish terms created by hubbard, you will not be truly out of scientology. lose all the stupid dialog, please.
sorry Tory, but this nasty Co$ has beliefs : our dear lord XENU!!!!
ok those arent accessible before OT III, and even of OTIII is a bunch of BS to me(so is the immaculate conception in christanity, other stuff in Islam etc)
What really matters imho,is that you have to pay shitloads of money to discover their "truth"
I am anti-religious by nature, but i'm all for free speech. And this is the only "church" making pay for their "dogma".
I'm diggin' this lady, yeah, I wish Oprah would bring them on and NOT SLANT IT WITH EDITING either when everything is said and done just to stay on Tom's good side. lol...but yes, good point you guys should be on talk shows around the world, I'd tune in. =)
Notice how the cowardly CO$ cult members knows not to (or are not allowed to) comment on your videos. Everyone (almost) has positive comments! Your videos should in the hundreds of thousands of views! You are wise as Mark Bunker (AKA Mark DeBunker hehe). We love you - keep up the good work. I am near Portland - when is the next Portland protest?
All Scientology has accomplished with Mr.Cruise is to take his money and convince him he really isn't homosexual. For no money, he could have accepted who he really is and stopped trying to prove his manhood by jumping up and down on couches.
NEVER feel sorry for Tom Cruise. He MUST KNOW what the CoS is doing. And if he doesn't know, then fuck him for being so willfully ignorant. Fuck him and his cult household. To hell with his mom, to hell with his idiot sisters, to hell with all his sycophantic enablers. To hell with them. Fuck 'em all.
Tory is not the only one who had "a bad experience" with Co$ and she speaks out not only for herself but for the others and their families and friends.
Oprah's not anti-cult; she's starting her own cult now with Eckhart Tolle. Teaching about people gain their salvation from their own holiness, that god is just a concept and not a real being, etc. She's even openly trying to convert Christians in some of the videos she has on her website.
Actually, its an anti-scientology page. It has 'The Un-Funny Truth about Scientology' video on it, and links to various Pro-Anonymous websites. The user name is just a red herring...
Guys, it time we reach out to Oprah ourselves. Fill the messageboards with Anons speaking the truth. Call her offices, her manager, mer magazine, her show-keep calling until they listen. Those in the Chicago area, stop by her studios and picket, try to talk to the staff inside.
One hour with us, Momma Magoo and WBM-she'll be shocked and disgusted with herself for EVER allowing Tom to be in her presense a second time...
I think Oprah made a grave mistake allowing this interview to be conducted. Her show has always been about bringing the best out of people, being good to fellow man, etc. Scientology has such a bad rep in the department of human decency. I think that this has put her in bad steed PR wise.
Hopefully she'll show the two sides of Scientology before she misses the chance.
In all honesty, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Oprah to give equal time to both sides. Tom Cruise is where the money and the Hollywood influence lies. She knows which side her bread is buttered on.
Tom Cruise will never be separated from Scientology in the public eye now. And we've seen enough vid to know what a liar he is. He felt "pressured" during the interview with Matt Lauer? That interview is here on youtube & it can clearly be seen that he was practically attacking Lauer. Great job, Magoo, as always. Great job.
Good for you! Won't be long now, everything will come to light and Scientology will be no more, well you might hear about them in the history books...LH said there was no Christ, I'll bet he knows there is now!
All Jesus(God)wants is to have a relationship with His creation. It was never about "religion". God=LOVE
Lord, please continue to bless the fight against the evil that only seperates us from You, in Jesus name I ask it, Amen & Amen
Yes, but she's done shows on "Cults" and even says: "How can *this* (Serious abuses done within the cult she was exposing) happen in our country"? So IF she knew the dark side of Scientology---I'd love to see that show. That's all I meant.
a reply from Tory! I feel so special! WOOT! any hoo I would not hold your breath for that show eh? dunno Oprah scares the crap out of me but hey Tory I love what you do keep sticking it to Scientology!
Poor Tom I guess he'll just have to spend his days crying into his many millions of dollars.
Cruise gets all the crap because he lets himself be used as the poster boy, if he would just shut up and get on with his life without making all these crazy claims on TV and in Co$ videos then he would not get the crap.
OPRAH FORUMS ARE CENSORING POSTS RELATED TO MAY 10TH PROTEST INFORMATION. Forum moderator, "harpobear", is also removing pages of posts from people informing others of the abuses in the cult. Thread entitled "Exclusive from His Telluride Home: The Tom Cruise Interview" is being systematically removed.
House rules were followed and no violations took place, no flaming. The thread is currently down 6 pages and counting.
It would be great if all this information could come out on Oprah. Is she open minded enough to do a show like this or is she too swayed by Tom Cruise? Oprah's show could make a big difference! Come on Oprah, a lot of lives could be changed for the better!
i wonder what oprah AND the fresh prince would think after reading the letter LRH wrote his wife saying "don't break your back scrubbing floors, get yourself a n----r. thats what they're born for"
If I had video editing software I'd make a video comparing Tom's Interview with Oprah to what he said in that leaked $cientology video They're some major contrasts between what he said on Oprah, and what he said in secret to his fellow $cientologists. He obviously lied and dodged a lot of questions on Oprah. It's strange too how $cientologists will never say openly what they believe. Scientology is such a cult.
I just emailed this video to the oprah show. The only downside, is that she asks for addresses and phone numbers but I would hope that she wouldn't share my personal information with COS???!! Anyway, maybe if alot of people her do that she might listen??
Go to oprah's site. Click on Press Room link at the bottom of her site, then on the left, there is a link to 'email us'.
I know but my thought was that if they try to contact any one of us for legitimacy to the claim against COS, and we all are dummy accounts, they won't take it seriously.
Tom Cruise is a liar. When Oprah asked "Do scientologists believe scientology is the only way" he said no. They believe it is their responsibility to "clear the planet"
L. Ron Hubbard says their was no Jesus. How can Tom honestly say he believes in god if he doesn't believe in Jesus? I've heard ex-scienos say the tom cruise video was not edited at all, that was exactly the way it was presented at the event. It might have been stolen but we all heard the shit that came out of his mouth.
Oprah`s message board (and TONS of other message boards around the world) have gotten lots of posts since Oprah`s Friday (sham) interview with Tom Cruise. I`m amazed by the people writing in to say how disgusted they are by this and how their opion of Oprah has been forever tarnished. Iwish she would have Tory, Mark Bunker, or Marc Headley on her show. It would give us disgruntled folks a better view of the world, or, rather, media.
There should really be an Anonymous protest at her studio, Harpo, on Monday while they air the tribute to Tom Cruise show. If they get Oprah's attention, that will go a long way to getting the word out!
oprah should be stripped of her title as talk show queen. she does not strive for the truth but support liars like tom cruise on her show. what about the victims of scientology oprah winfrey? remember the character you played in the film 'The Color Purple'? you have disappointed your fans!
Tory i just went to the Oprah web site and there is a form for people that want to respond to the tom c interview and do it on her show you should go apply
i think it was important for us to watch the first interview to see if Oprah was gonna be true to her own values. and she wasn't so we should not watch the next interview
I agree with you Tori. They are using his familiarity to entice people to their so-called religion. Mr Cruise is a good guy. It looks like Scientology found his weaknesses and exploited him to their benefit. He has lots of money. And they want it. I hope someone, someone close to him away from that BS, and help him realize what he's doing. He can't be told, he needs to see it himself. The right person can do it.
It seems to me that Tom Cruise isn't too bright since he allowed himself to be sucked in by the COS. My sympathy lies with Katie Holmes and the children.
Tory: you are as always absolutely right. Tom's an actor, he acts the sincere guy (narrow eyes, big smile) and he lies as a matter of principle. So does DM, so do all their spokesmen. Listen to what they say AND BELIEVE THE EXACT OPPOSITE.
Jason Beghe was talking about how tough the "decompression" is when leaving Scientology. Since Tom seems so far in, his leaving and realizing would probably rupture his psyche.
No..........he's already re-married, so that's OVER. I just say, "My husband"----meaning when we ~were~ married. I still hope he wakes up, for his own sake, and I'd still like to be in touch....just as friends.
I do not feel sorry for Tom Cruise. He has done more to strengthen Scientology than even LRH. He needs to opn his eyes and denounce Scientology. By the way, did you notice the camera catch someone running by the ino in he first 5-minutes of the interview (when Cruise was touring the house). I think it was the first evidense of Katy Holmes trying to escape her mountain prison. Oh, and Nicole has "joint-custody"... Not the same as she gets to see her kids now is it?
Well We'll see how Cruise acts Monday's interview since it's a 2 parter, though CNN has claimed he was Mr. Nice guy during the filming, and the audience didn't understand why people didn't like him anymore since he was a 'nice cute man' Oprah Fans are almost as bad as she is with the close mindedness and only wanting to see one side of the spectrum.
Yan, have you seen Minority Report? that is the same: using someone's fragility and loss (his son in the movie) to enrolled him up in an organisation scheme.
'there is nothing wrong with the system , it's perfect'/'I agree but if there is a flaw, it's human'.
I can't have such an understanding view about someone like cruise or travolta. I see how Tory can sympathize, but what it comes down to is they're using their fame to prey on the weak minded & easily influenced. They're basically walking billboards for the cult. It would seem with the failure of his last movie & his next one being delayed 3xs that tom's career is circling the drain.
Can anyone link me to vids for either interview? would be much appreciated.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts about this. I hope Oprah will hear this and invite you, because people really should hear the other side. But I'm also sure, that people know that Tom Cruise was lying.
Oprah is pro-Oprah,and thats all. she's not interested in free speach,she has a Youtube channel where you can't leave comments. she doesn't want to hear both sides of the story,or she'd have non-celebrities on her show talking about scientology all the time. what she is interested in,is having Tom Cruise come on and act like an ass again,thats huge ratings for her. Oprah cares about the bottom line,and nothing more,if that weren't true,your interview would already be finished
Wouldn't you have give anything if Oprah would have said- "one last question Tom, could you please explain to our viewers at home exactly what is a Thetan"- LOL! *Bet Tom would have jumped off that couch(again).
There only 2 things that Tom can do is 1) give scientific evidence to prove that they are the "authority on the mind" 2) if not (and he cant) say I am sorry like a grown up for once and admit that having money does not mean that you are a wise person..
Wow, its like your statement is completely true if you say the complete the opposite of what you just said. But then again, CoS has the worst perception of people of all religions. Do me a favour and bug off with your ridiculous statements Struque.
have us on! have us on! talking like if she was watching this... u and ur fatass friend r in a power trip because several stupid kids from highschool watch ur stupid videos...keep taking ur medications.
And why was Tom 'put thru the mill?' Because he blatently revealed himself in big global terms to be he is, by complete definition, a self-righteous hypocrite of monumental proportions! Oh yes Tom! You have WON & will for many years wear the publicly detested Graven Image of Ultimate Hypocrisy! :p
evernetherall 1 year ago
You have great taste in hair, and I say that just because I have the same hairstyle! :D
Anon36912 1 year ago
you know what would be funny? If tom cruise fell down several flights of stairs became mentally handicap then scientology could consider him a threat of revealing CoS secrets and abandon him like so many others.
Fuck cruise.
sociopathix 1 year ago
Tom Cruise doesn't deserve any sympathy, atleast from my point of view.
He's in Scientology, alright. He is brainwashed by their shit, that's also alright with me. Now he is about to ruin Katie's life and his daughter's life too, and this is the part where it starts to upset me.
an0nim0uz 2 years ago
@an0nim0uz His daughter's life maybe. I read that Scientology starts auditing at around 4 years old if there are kids. That little girl is going to be so screwed up if they make her do too much of that stuff.
lauraleesmithagain 1 year ago
cruse is a tool in a huge bag of tools. i hope they all feel better soon.
mark9551 2 years ago
Oprah is part of the New World Order, remember this is the "ONE" meaning Barack Obama, One World Gov. she will not expose the Stars, she envy's them, and will not chance losing her own stardom.
KamikazeKoscki 2 years ago
High profile people who have had or have everything but spirituality are taken in by the first person/people who make them realize that.
nhprop 2 years ago
Cruse is a big douche bag
Baritoneukulele 2 years ago
this lady is amazing
joinemeindeath 2 years ago 5
Why are celebs like Tom Cruise attracted to scientology? Is it because they can raise up quite high without doing anything but paying money?
penguinchicky 2 years ago 3
i'm sorry... being used???? anyone who has half a brain can see that Scientology is a CROCK... thus Tom Cruise does not deserve sympathy. End of story.
WillStanton 2 years ago 4
I agree !!
businesslaunchdates 2 years ago
I would be absolutely fascinated to learn how Tom Cruise first encountered CoS, and what about it appealed to him. I think it's obvious to everyone with a brain that the CoS are using him for good PR, and I actually feel sorry for him. They are systematically destroying a man who probably started out as a pretty decent human being. I hope someone finds a way to rescue him and his family, soon; before CoS ruins his children, as well.
mafaldacrumbwitty 2 years ago
Guys. Would you try Sc if it were for free? Would you try to destroy it if it were available to you for free?
jfunf 2 years ago
Oh sure, years from now if you decide you want to leave they try to ruin your reputation, sue you, and even keep you from seeing your friends and family. Sounds lovely doesn't it?
Tory and others like her can help people in that "church" more than you realize and I applaud what they're doing.
ElroyMcDuff 2 years ago
It seems to me(she did not reply to me once i aksed he about it) Tory wont or cant offer anything instead of Sc, BUT a life as it was without SC(its not her words but some other Anon i asked the same). but it cannot be offered while Sc exists.
jfunf 2 years ago
I don't quite follow you, are you saying former members won't be able to cope without Scientology? People all over the world (billions of us in fact) get along quite nicely without Scientology.
She's even said that she isn't against the church itself, just some of the things it does (ie - fair game policy, disconnection, etc). She even liked some of the courses she took but there is WAAAY too much baggage that comes with any benefit you might receive.
Miscavige's own brother's family left...
ElroyMcDuff 2 years ago
People come and go.I dont know all the reasons. Im not saying that Scilons wont be able to cope without Sc.They just wont live Sc. Sc will continue regardless to the attempts of Tory or whoever is because anons - are not as organized as Sc's.they'll never be - unless they create Sc like org. In Sc there is a lot of people who dedicate their time and fanatically follow the goal to"clear"the planet. anons - are just a bunch of guys who fight for fun. in time some of them will live,family and stuff
jfunf 2 years ago
After all of those deaths? Hell NO!!!!
mafaldacrumbwitty 2 years ago
well i doubt that ALL anons are like that.
jfunf 2 years ago
I'm not an anon. And, try taking a look at the ever-expanding list of deaths. If it were one or two, MAYBE they could argue it away. But, not THIS many.
mafaldacrumbwitty 2 years ago
Are you serious, jfunf?
mafaldacrumbwitty 2 years ago
Well you can say that im just as far serious as it all makes any sense. My point is - that Sc status - no so straight as it could seem. Info about it - as well. I mean c'mon man - look around - this world not so transparent as it could seem. Sc's Anona Illuminati, and so on - there is more to it then raising children and tooth cleaning every morning.
jfunf 2 years ago
oh oh oh...and that point alone - makes me quite tolerant to Sc. I cannot just deny it -cause a lot of "guys" tell me that i should. But a lot of others do not think similarly. In a world were people opinions manipulated and a lot of things shown in a light which is far from truth that idealism alarms me.
jfunf 2 years ago
My opinion is based upon research that I have done. And, I resent the suggestion that I've been manipulated. The bad reputation that Scientology currently has, is through their own violations of human rights, and negligent homicide.
mafaldacrumbwitty 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
ok. seriously - what "research" there can be done?About murders and so on. I mean remember JFK - are you shure that Lee Oswald was the killer? My point is that in THIS world - you can believe only what you know. And you cannot listen either side.
jfunf 2 years ago
What happened to Lisa McPherson? Noah Lottick? Kyle Brennan? Kaja Ballo?
mafaldacrumbwitty 2 years ago 3
what happened with them proven?
jfunf 2 years ago
I like your point and i agree
Duganoff09 2 years ago
I'm not normally interested in Oprah but I'll be honest, i would fly to Chicago and get tickets just for that show alone
AlphaDragonOmega 2 years ago 3
you know Magoo,you are one of the most intelligent people i have ever heard speak about Tom and Scientology.I know nothing about it,except what ppl say,and most of it is NEGATIVE!! It makes me a little upset,because i DO like Tom!But i would like to know the facts also!!!!
Daisy72762 2 years ago
that was the greatest insult for me. What he said about SPs being just history.
They are obviously against free speech, what about the people like me that enjoy the sinful, hateful, the ones that preach about destruction, if its a negative thought theyre just going to freakin audit us?!
They need to learn, that a person will never mature if they dont know and acknowledge their darker side
Nades129 3 years ago
what is Co$?
Church (so-called) Of $cientology. We use the $-sign as $cientology is ALL about the money!
draagon66 3 years ago 5
''...$cientology is ALL about the money..'' At least thats what their enemies want you to believe.
jfunf 2 years ago
Former members have said as much. Other churches ask for money also but they don't REQUIRE the amounts that the drones in Scientology do.
Oh, and notice the word you used there - you're not just a critic of Scientology if you don't agree with it - you're an "enemy."
ElroyMcDuff 2 years ago
Scientology = Peoples Temple....think about how the latter ended
ubgufy2 3 years ago 3
People are boycotting Tom's latest movie because he is the "poster boy" for Scientology--some family members of the character he plays in the Valkeri movie are critics of Scientology. It's too bad because there are some great actors in that film--it is a good film in spite of Cruise, not because he has the staring role.
Newtuber1964 3 years ago
what is Co$
mara0facoma 3 years ago
church of scientology
wiimakevideosforlif3 3 years ago
No I am saying this same battle has been fought for decades by saner, voices, which include parents, patients, MDs, nutritionists, offering an in depth exploration and clinical expertise, sometimes involving a multi prong approach to an often complex problem. And sometimes drugs ARE necessary.
It's been done without the knowledge, consent or assistance (or funding) of Bully-Org.
Co$ has their heads so far up their idiot asses, they have no idea what's going on in the world around them.
puckf17 3 years ago
Not necessarily. It's interesting they single out psychiatry. There are many vocal critics of the strong-hold the medical establishment and drug cos. have over health (not just in psychiatry). They have had their names smeared, been falsely discredited, had misinformation disseminated about them, been victims of coerced judges, bogus witnesses and unorthodox court proceedings.
But they THEMSELVES are not accused of being CONTROLLING demagogues like Co$ with some sinister intent.
puckf17 3 years ago 2
IN fact based on court transcripts and the accounts of patients and qualified professionals and attorneys, the tactics of the Co$ is remarkably similar to those they criticise. But I think Co$ is more dangerous.
Sounds like they've taken the earnest research of others and in their institutionalized-ignorance and blind-stupor allegiance, misapplied it or taken it far out of context, not caring whether someone dies or not.
Not to mention lying has been revealed as policy at Co$.
puckf17 3 years ago
There's no point in anyone who has never been affiliated with the church of scientology to publicly discredit the church. No need for Bunker or others who have never been in scientology to talk with expertise about scientology. They have nothing but second hand accounts for proof. Find people that experienced it for credibility issues, because otherwise it's hearsay. I also know people will hop aboard anything that seems to be true without searching for the answers themselves.
Observingthechaos 3 years ago
I think Bunker is very credible. Gary Null has never worked for the NCI or NIH but as an investigative journalist, whose research is unparalleled, he won awards for his "Medical Genocide" series along with other articles.
puckf17 3 years ago
Thanks you for uploading ,
Bless you :),
Erik
AweSomo84 3 years ago 2
I went to a Scientology Church in Irvine, California. They did this free evaluation to see what I'm weak at then they tried to sell me programs recommended for my weakness. I felt like I was at the bank.lol Long story short, I took off letting them know that they were willing to help people with money and not a poor student like me. lol That was my first and last experience at a scientology church. Does this sound familiar to you?
StopClimateCrisis 3 years ago 4
Oprah has become the "Black Barabara Walters." Out of touch and only wants ratings.
ZaeBo4 3 years ago 2
Free Xenu!
soulinite 3 years ago
XD ahahaha
NemeSisLFay 3 years ago
The only honest thing L Ron ever said was that he set the cult up as a money making racket, it's well documented. A church is only a cult that got big.
I don't believe in anything but am probably a million times more spiritual than any $cientologist you're ever likely to meet.
The only thing they believe in is money. YOUR MONEY! L Ron said so.
One day Tom will discover this and then the fun will really start. He's thick and lonely but he's not stupid.
It's your money they love Tom, not you.
itsallaloadofbs 3 years ago 8
the problem is that when you use scientology terms, you say them like they are common knowledge. most people don't know what an sp is. i hope to god most people never find out. l ron's dictionary should be burned and buried.
Aharleygyrl 3 years ago
as long as you call yourself an "sp", using their stupid-ass made up childish terms created by hubbard, you will not be truly out of scientology. lose all the stupid dialog, please.
Aharleygyrl 3 years ago
tom cuise is a freak. don't make any excuses for him.
Aharleygyrl 3 years ago 3
sorry Tory, but this nasty Co$ has beliefs : our dear lord XENU!!!!
ok those arent accessible before OT III, and even of OTIII is a bunch of BS to me(so is the immaculate conception in christanity, other stuff in Islam etc)
What really matters imho,is that you have to pay shitloads of money to discover their "truth"
I am anti-religious by nature, but i'm all for free speech. And this is the only "church" making pay for their "dogma".
And this is completely dishonest, still imho.
genoramix 3 years ago
Yeah! Put Tory and Mark on Oprah! I'd watch that one!
DKHellsing 3 years ago
I'm diggin' this lady, yeah, I wish Oprah would bring them on and NOT SLANT IT WITH EDITING either when everything is said and done just to stay on Tom's good side. lol...but yes, good point you guys should be on talk shows around the world, I'd tune in. =)
Happyone4 3 years ago
It will never happen. Oprah has a weird relationship with Tom Cruise...Sort of an idol worship thing.
spiritofwicca 3 years ago 3
We love you Tory! Have fun Saturday I know I will!
Hail Xenu!
Everyone have a great protest!
/b/rotherhood!
soulinite 3 years ago
Have you gotten that air time yet???
byebyebillwillson 3 years ago 3
Notice how the cowardly CO$ cult members knows not to (or are not allowed to) comment on your videos. Everyone (almost) has positive comments! Your videos should in the hundreds of thousands of views! You are wise as Mark Bunker (AKA Mark DeBunker hehe). We love you - keep up the good work. I am near Portland - when is the next Portland protest?
darthspeaks 3 years ago 6
u said its a science of the mind... its that a bit too complimenting, its quack lies pseudo
yannis5 3 years ago 4
I believe Scientology will be in the history books. and hopefully everyone learns from it and history does not repeat itself.
shuu7777 3 years ago 7
All Scientology has accomplished with Mr.Cruise is to take his money and convince him he really isn't homosexual. For no money, he could have accepted who he really is and stopped trying to prove his manhood by jumping up and down on couches.
30SecondsTokyo 3 years ago 10
Actors are trained to lie.
donovanfrost 3 years ago 6
Yes, Oprah is anti-slavery but they must have the right color to get her interested. She has done a show on this and she said some pretty bad things.
I admire Tory for her being so open to everyone. I could NEVER utter a positive word about Cruise - not after all he has said and done.
Clausfarre 3 years ago 4
NEVER feel sorry for Tom Cruise. He MUST KNOW what the CoS is doing. And if he doesn't know, then fuck him for being so willfully ignorant. Fuck him and his cult household. To hell with his mom, to hell with his idiot sisters, to hell with all his sycophantic enablers. To hell with them. Fuck 'em all.
d4m7s8 3 years ago 15
@ XenuTV6
Tory is not the only one who had "a bad experience" with Co$ and she speaks out not only for herself but for the others and their families and friends.
Thanks Tory for sharing your thoughts.
mollie2810 3 years ago 8
Oprah's not anti-cult; she's starting her own cult now with Eckhart Tolle. Teaching about people gain their salvation from their own holiness, that god is just a concept and not a real being, etc. She's even openly trying to convert Christians in some of the videos she has on her website.
It's dangerous to look at her as a role model.
FreePlay 3 years ago 3
I'm glad I'm not the only one who hs noticed she's become a little weird lately...
spiritofwicca 3 years ago 3
of course (to anybody who watched the interveiw) oprah couldn't hold anything tom said to the fire so he basicly said whatever he wanted.
Cloud1090 3 years ago 3
Cruise does seem emotionally defeated. Let's hope he defects like Jason Beghe.
noinlair 3 years ago 8
Actually, its an anti-scientology page. It has 'The Un-Funny Truth about Scientology' video on it, and links to various Pro-Anonymous websites. The user name is just a red herring...
littlesisterAnon 3 years ago 2
How the fuck are they getting away with that? Sweet.
cloak616 3 years ago 2
Guys, it time we reach out to Oprah ourselves. Fill the messageboards with Anons speaking the truth. Call her offices, her manager, mer magazine, her show-keep calling until they listen. Those in the Chicago area, stop by her studios and picket, try to talk to the staff inside.
One hour with us, Momma Magoo and WBM-she'll be shocked and disgusted with herself for EVER allowing Tom to be in her presense a second time...
littlesisterAnon 3 years ago 4
Absolutely!
FitProAP 3 years ago 3
At the very least, I was expecting Oprah to jump on his couch (in Colorado). So many missed opportunities, Oprah, so many missed opportunities.
OTsuperduper 3 years ago
DM convinced TC he will conceive the new LRH body with KH, whom has been casted for that purpose.
deserticus18 3 years ago
I think Oprah made a grave mistake allowing this interview to be conducted. Her show has always been about bringing the best out of people, being good to fellow man, etc. Scientology has such a bad rep in the department of human decency. I think that this has put her in bad steed PR wise.
Hopefully she'll show the two sides of Scientology before she misses the chance.
bimba101 3 years ago 2
In all honesty, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Oprah to give equal time to both sides. Tom Cruise is where the money and the Hollywood influence lies. She knows which side her bread is buttered on.
spiritofwicca 3 years ago 5
This has been flagged as spam show
the above is NOT spam, it's an epic youtube account. click on it and find out the truth about scientology :D
anonT0 3 years ago
actually that comment is NOT spam, it's pretty awesome. click on the link...the l is actually an I :D
anonT0 3 years ago
Tory, there's a CoS comment here. You need a can of Raid.
cloak616 3 years ago
Sometimes it's good to be wrong.
cloak616 3 years ago
"Sometimes it's good to be wrong".
Ok, you're wrong! Feel better?
T
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
Is Oprah a scientologist? BTW: <3 ur channel.
razellicious 3 years ago 2
Testify! Keep on talking, Magoo. The world needs your experience, we need to see the truth about scientology.
xenuismaster 3 years ago 2
Tom Cruise will never be separated from Scientology in the public eye now. And we've seen enough vid to know what a liar he is. He felt "pressured" during the interview with Matt Lauer? That interview is here on youtube & it can clearly be seen that he was practically attacking Lauer. Great job, Magoo, as always. Great job.
WinrarIsMe 3 years ago 6
Wow, great job. :] Whenever I have a friend interested in scientology, I refer to them to this.
You're doing such a great job.
Rawkerxcore 3 years ago 5
Good for you! Won't be long now, everything will come to light and Scientology will be no more, well you might hear about them in the history books...LH said there was no Christ, I'll bet he knows there is now!
All Jesus(God)wants is to have a relationship with His creation. It was never about "religion". God=LOVE
Lord, please continue to bless the fight against the evil that only seperates us from You, in Jesus name I ask it, Amen & Amen
belovedgirltoHim 3 years ago 3
WTG Chianons:)
alilanonincog 3 years ago 2
There is an Anonymous protest going on right now in front of Harpo studios. Please join if you are in the Chicago area.
FitProAP 3 years ago 6
oprah is anti cult!?!?! WTF she is the leader of a huge cult!
DBAViking 3 years ago 6
Yes, but she's done shows on "Cults" and even says: "How can *this* (Serious abuses done within the cult she was exposing) happen in our country"? So IF she knew the dark side of Scientology---I'd love to see that show. That's all I meant.
T
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
a reply from Tory! I feel so special! WOOT! any hoo I would not hold your breath for that show eh? dunno Oprah scares the crap out of me but hey Tory I love what you do keep sticking it to Scientology!
DBAViking 3 years ago 2
@DBAViking Oprahs 'cult' is more of a fanatic fan following rather then a religious cult....big difference.
sociopathix 1 year ago
Can someone shoot me a link to the full interview? I can only find bits and pieces of it.
neversawthatcoming 3 years ago 2
Link has been shot neversawthatcoming.
cloak616 3 years ago
Poor Tom I guess he'll just have to spend his days crying into his many millions of dollars.
Cruise gets all the crap because he lets himself be used as the poster boy, if he would just shut up and get on with his life without making all these crazy claims on TV and in Co$ videos then he would not get the crap.
Tom Cruise bone head statements:-
1. When I see a crash I know only I can help
2. I know the history of psychiatry
3. Maybe one day SP's will be that rare
4. The Brooke shields thing
Redshift21 3 years ago 3
for a while i had been at 999 videos watched. i was wondering "who is sepcial enough to get to be the 1000?".
It was you.
FrostedMushroom 3 years ago 2
If Tom blows, Scientology will be finished.
AnonymousHouston 3 years ago 2
TOM CRUISE (dot) COM is now live.
And it's the biggest pile of egotistical shite I've ever seen. What a riot.
Their TOS is interesting as well. Guard your IP's when you visit if you are so inclined.
cloak616 3 years ago 2
Yep I just looked at it and it's all flash and no substance just like scientology.
The odd thing is many of the films are ones I've enjoyed in the past but that guy.... yeeshhh, I kinda feel sick when I look at him now.
Redshift21 3 years ago 2
OPRAH FORUMS ARE CENSORING POSTS RELATED TO MAY 10TH PROTEST INFORMATION. Forum moderator, "harpobear", is also removing pages of posts from people informing others of the abuses in the cult. Thread entitled "Exclusive from His Telluride Home: The Tom Cruise Interview" is being systematically removed.
House rules were followed and no violations took place, no flaming. The thread is currently down 6 pages and counting.
WTF???
cloak616 3 years ago 2
It would be great if all this information could come out on Oprah. Is she open minded enough to do a show like this or is she too swayed by Tom Cruise? Oprah's show could make a big difference! Come on Oprah, a lot of lives could be changed for the better!
putertink 3 years ago
I would love to see Oprah have you, Mark, Kendra, Jenna, and Bruce Hines on her show.
HouseSpiderAnon 3 years ago 5
+1,000,000,000,000,000,00
ilyfel 3 years ago
this video needs to go everywhere on the net, then Oprah can't hide from it
ladybugann6 3 years ago 4
i wonder what oprah AND the fresh prince would think after reading the letter LRH wrote his wife saying "don't break your back scrubbing floors, get yourself a n----r. thats what they're born for"
sagittariusknox 3 years ago 4
OPRAH...LET HER ON YOUR SHOW.....WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON OUT THERE...
THANKS...... :-)
Happiness to all Religions.....Ban all Cults and Slavery :-)
wwwJEZSEZcom 3 years ago 6
We have MONEY IN A BOTTLE and HEALTH in a BOTTLE! We would LOVE YOU TO JOI US...You would be such an assest :-)
wwwJEZSEZcom 3 years ago
If I had video editing software I'd make a video comparing Tom's Interview with Oprah to what he said in that leaked $cientology video They're some major contrasts between what he said on Oprah, and what he said in secret to his fellow $cientologists. He obviously lied and dodged a lot of questions on Oprah. It's strange too how $cientologists will never say openly what they believe. Scientology is such a cult.
sk8mike 3 years ago 3
Myspace is sponsored by Co$ and is now advertising it...
Good vid Tory.
Wunderwulfe2 3 years ago 2
I just emailed this video to the oprah show. The only downside, is that she asks for addresses and phone numbers but I would hope that she wouldn't share my personal information with COS???!! Anyway, maybe if alot of people her do that she might listen??
Go to oprah's site. Click on Press Room link at the bottom of her site, then on the left, there is a link to 'email us'.
iiswansongii 3 years ago 5
i followed in your footsteps...
sagittariusknox 3 years ago
ahem... thats why you make dummy accounts and use payphone numbers....
LordCeptimos 3 years ago
I know but my thought was that if they try to contact any one of us for legitimacy to the claim against COS, and we all are dummy accounts, they won't take it seriously.
iiswansongii 3 years ago
great comment!
Lissabon 3 years ago 4
Hi Tory great video. I hope you are good and well
iinviteyou01 3 years ago 6
Just another 'gentle' reminder to leave a message at the Oprah message board, there are several threads on the go.
One thread in the main category currently has over 34,000 views and climbing fast.
All ex's should also head over and give some personal feedback - definitely needed :)
*Please note*
That the moderator is deleting any comments with links, so write your comments 'creatively'
Also format, spell check & preview to ensure maximum readability!
sele8 3 years ago 8
Tom Cruise is a liar. When Oprah asked "Do scientologists believe scientology is the only way" he said no. They believe it is their responsibility to "clear the planet"
L. Ron Hubbard says their was no Jesus. How can Tom honestly say he believes in god if he doesn't believe in Jesus? I've heard ex-scienos say the tom cruise video was not edited at all, that was exactly the way it was presented at the event. It might have been stolen but we all heard the shit that came out of his mouth.
jayneshat 3 years ago 11
Tory great comments spot on.
CASSIELIVESHERE 3 years ago 7
Organise a fighting fund for those being charged by the Scientology Cult.Let's take them on.
CASSIELIVESHERE 3 years ago 4
I am soooo glad you got out of that crazy cult! Thanks for bringing the truth.
jtswhip 3 years ago 8
Oprah`s message board (and TONS of other message boards around the world) have gotten lots of posts since Oprah`s Friday (sham) interview with Tom Cruise. I`m amazed by the people writing in to say how disgusted they are by this and how their opion of Oprah has been forever tarnished. Iwish she would have Tory, Mark Bunker, or Marc Headley on her show. It would give us disgruntled folks a better view of the world, or, rather, media.
parrotnutz 3 years ago 6
There should really be an Anonymous protest at her studio, Harpo, on Monday while they air the tribute to Tom Cruise show. If they get Oprah's attention, that will go a long way to getting the word out!
FitProAP 3 years ago 8
Google: Hitman in the name of scientology
A story on a guy named Jesse Remmers, killed in the name of scientology.
jayneshat 3 years ago 4
oprah should be stripped of her title as talk show queen. she does not strive for the truth but support liars like tom cruise on her show. what about the victims of scientology oprah winfrey? remember the character you played in the film 'The Color Purple'? you have disappointed your fans!
wedgiepants 3 years ago 7
Tory i just went to the Oprah web site and there is a form for people that want to respond to the tom c interview and do it on her show you should go apply
angierds 3 years ago 2
i think it was important for us to watch the first interview to see if Oprah was gonna be true to her own values. and she wasn't so we should not watch the next interview
angierds 3 years ago 3
if you look closely into tom cruise´s eyes and if you pay attention to his body language you can tell there´s something wrong up in his head...
pinacolada1976 3 years ago 2
Cruise is a shitty actor.
HeroofTime55 3 years ago 5
MAN! I thought I was alone in that!
jtswhip 3 years ago 3
I agree with you Tori. They are using his familiarity to entice people to their so-called religion. Mr Cruise is a good guy. It looks like Scientology found his weaknesses and exploited him to their benefit. He has lots of money. And they want it. I hope someone, someone close to him away from that BS, and help him realize what he's doing. He can't be told, he needs to see it himself. The right person can do it.
djben1977 3 years ago 3
It seems to me that Tom Cruise isn't too bright since he allowed himself to be sucked in by the COS. My sympathy lies with Katie Holmes and the children.
spiritofwicca 3 years ago 4
You're great Tory. Love you!
xScilonBrat 3 years ago 5
Tory: you are as always absolutely right. Tom's an actor, he acts the sincere guy (narrow eyes, big smile) and he lies as a matter of principle. So does DM, so do all their spokesmen. Listen to what they say AND BELIEVE THE EXACT OPPOSITE.
auchraw 3 years ago 9
very impressive
olliebiff 3 years ago 3
agreed, definitely a PR plot.
Breadstick88 3 years ago 4
Anon should write/e-mail/fax Oprah...until she gives you, Bunker, Stacy, Minton, Jason, + whoever else a chance to say what Tom doesn't know about.
EdWont 3 years ago 5
She won't do it - she's described Tom as "one of [her] close personal friends" previously.
kitt0rz 3 years ago 4
My support for Oprah is revoked.
RevKale 3 years ago 4
Somehow, sadly, I do not think Oprah will see this, or give a damn.
ItzMeRon 3 years ago 3
Jason Beghe was talking about how tough the "decompression" is when leaving Scientology. Since Tom seems so far in, his leaving and realizing would probably rupture his psyche.
Steveaux 3 years ago 4
No, she's already married man, sorry.
Her husband just needs to blow so they can be together again since disconnect...sucks in all manner of ways unpleasent and unkind.
anon1503008 3 years ago
No..........he's already re-married, so that's OVER. I just say, "My husband"----meaning when we ~were~ married. I still hope he wakes up, for his own sake, and I'd still like to be in touch....just as friends.
Happy Saturday~
Tory/Magoo~~
ToryMagoo44 3 years ago
Ah, didn't realize he'd remarried. My apologies tory.
anon1503008 3 years ago 4
TORY, I LOVE YOU - WILL YOU MARRY ME? lol
Great video sweetie, thanks for all you do.
Gradyman0 3 years ago
I do not feel sorry for Tom Cruise. He has done more to strengthen Scientology than even LRH. He needs to opn his eyes and denounce Scientology. By the way, did you notice the camera catch someone running by the ino in he first 5-minutes of the interview (when Cruise was touring the house). I think it was the first evidense of Katy Holmes trying to escape her mountain prison. Oh, and Nicole has "joint-custody"... Not the same as she gets to see her kids now is it?
buckhuckleman 3 years ago 3
Well We'll see how Cruise acts Monday's interview since it's a 2 parter, though CNN has claimed he was Mr. Nice guy during the filming, and the audience didn't understand why people didn't like him anymore since he was a 'nice cute man' Oprah Fans are almost as bad as she is with the close mindedness and only wanting to see one side of the spectrum.
AnonSupporterBeni 3 years ago 6
Yan, have you seen Minority Report? that is the same: using someone's fragility and loss (his son in the movie) to enrolled him up in an organisation scheme.
'there is nothing wrong with the system , it's perfect'/'I agree but if there is a flaw, it's human'.
hi Tory!
snappycruise 3 years ago
If I lived in Chicago I would be protesting at the Harpo studios.
Sparkanoid1 3 years ago 4
I can't have such an understanding view about someone like cruise or travolta. I see how Tory can sympathize, but what it comes down to is they're using their fame to prey on the weak minded & easily influenced. They're basically walking billboards for the cult. It would seem with the failure of his last movie & his next one being delayed 3xs that tom's career is circling the drain.
Can anyone link me to vids for either interview? would be much appreciated.
freddysnotdead 3 years ago 2
"free kate and lil suri???"
what about Tom and his kids?
that is stupid, you should free them all, they are a family. don't encourage disconnection 'thebigtakeover'
snappycruise 3 years ago 4
very reasonable video, thank you.
exfalsoquodlibet 3 years ago 3
Thanks for sharing your thoughts about this. I hope Oprah will hear this and invite you, because people really should hear the other side. But I'm also sure, that people know that Tom Cruise was lying.
mollie2810 3 years ago 6
Oprah is pro-Oprah,and thats all. she's not interested in free speach,she has a Youtube channel where you can't leave comments. she doesn't want to hear both sides of the story,or she'd have non-celebrities on her show talking about scientology all the time. what she is interested in,is having Tom Cruise come on and act like an ass again,thats huge ratings for her. Oprah cares about the bottom line,and nothing more,if that weren't true,your interview would already be finished
ViralMessiah 3 years ago 12
Tory, did you believe the Xenu/Body Thetans story when you were in?
Ann0minous 3 years ago
Tory, i always like watching your videos. This is one of the best.
I like that sugesstion to get Oprah to listen to the other side.
quentinkrisp 3 years ago 3
Wouldn't you have give anything if Oprah would have said- "one last question Tom, could you please explain to our viewers at home exactly what is a Thetan"- LOL! *Bet Tom would have jumped off that couch(again).
sknyrd77 3 years ago 8
Lovez me some Magoo!!
a LOT of us have been on Oprah's message boards dropping links like exsci kids for people to check out :) *HUGZ*
Anonymous1075 3 years ago 3
There only 2 things that Tom can do is 1) give scientific evidence to prove that they are the "authority on the mind" 2) if not (and he cant) say I am sorry like a grown up for once and admit that having money does not mean that you are a wise person..
lefty1999 3 years ago 5
I think you are speaking quite a bit sense...
lluuaapp87 3 years ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
U r just a poor old lady on drugs that has being rejected by close people to you, blaming your ex-religion is not going to make you happy again.
Struque 3 years ago
Is that the best you can do? Boy you guys are really desperate huh...
lefty1999 3 years ago 5
My replay is for struque
lefty1999 3 years ago 5
Wow, its like your statement is completely true if you say the complete the opposite of what you just said. But then again, CoS has the worst perception of people of all religions. Do me a favour and bug off with your ridiculous statements Struque.
Legionwizard 3 years ago 4
This has been flagged as spam show
have us on! have us on! talking like if she was watching this... u and ur fatass friend r in a power trip because several stupid kids from highschool watch ur stupid videos...keep taking ur medications.
Struque 3 years ago
Wow over 1,300 friends from high school...big school.
knotoftoads 3 years ago 4
not interested in responding to empty accusations. Don't spit ur ignorance here.
exfalsoquodlibet 3 years ago
Keep trying to defend your cult...and keep failing.
ThetanBait 3 years ago 5