@trillby1 well we cant prove many things to be truly fact. as I cannot prove that God's existence is obsolete to you, you cannot prove that Q.M. is obsolete to me. we cannot change this no matter how much we know. you could scientifically prove Q.M. to me but it would not matter. it would not even matter if God formally introduced himself to you even if by shaking your hand, there would always be doubt, there will always be a level which we cannot comprehend, and this means that there is no end.
@symphonyofscripture All of us, which we make one, or you could say the universe. Another way of putting it...as we become more sophisticated, the universe becomes more sophisticated. That is why when we bypass one illusion, we run into another illusion.
@symphonyofscripture Yeah, it is pretty much infinite. You have to think in the context that if the universe is infinite, then everything that could possibly ever happen has already happened...yet it hasn't.
Though the illusions are infinite, I think they all can be bypassed somehow. Maybe in death they are bypassed and you enter a new realm of illusions or hierarchy.
Everything we do is nothing more than learning and growing. The universe...that is why experiences good and bad are critical.
@33MrSmiley I see - Thank you for explaining that for me. But hasn't logic, philosophy and science all proven that the universe cannot be infinite? I mean, wouldn't you agree that an effect could not also, at the same time, be it's own cause? From what I understand, I hear you saying that everything is an effect of a preceding effect - where there is such a chain of events, of any sort, there must also be time - and time is not infinite...
@symphonyofscripture Realistically, time is nothing more than human perception. It is a measurement of revolutions etc.. Look at Einstein's theory of relativity. It says space is curved. However, logic tells one that space has no properties. It is like saying God has properties.
I don't know about it being matter of fact-ly infinite or not being infinite. Depends on your perspective, which is what philosophy is all about. My opinion in short is that it is and isn't infinite.
@symphonyofscripture well sure, every faith and every science will believe that the universe had a beginning. but there is a problem. why are we searching for a beginning? why do we creatures feel that a beginning is so important that we NEED to search for it? will it matter if we find out how everything came to be? I don't think so, for sure. We will all reach the same end in MY opinion, so even if I know where everything originated from, I still am just going to look forward, we all should imo
No oneness may be achieved if there is even one individual that has not reached enlightenment, and this is based on the fundamental nature of oneness, which we may know as: Oneness = everything. and Enlightenment = becoming/recognizing everything. Therefore, any individual minus everything (not enlightened) will equal anything less than everything. And if there is less than everything then there is no oneness to achieve.
@trillby1 well we cant prove many things to be truly fact. as I cannot prove that God's existence is obsolete to you, you cannot prove that Q.M. is obsolete to me. we cannot change this no matter how much we know. you could scientifically prove Q.M. to me but it would not matter. it would not even matter if God formally introduced himself to you even if by shaking your hand, there would always be doubt, there will always be a level which we cannot comprehend, and this means that there is no end.
rubberduckey111 10 months ago
Who is having the illusion?
symphonyofscripture 1 year ago
@symphonyofscripture All of us, which we make one, or you could say the universe. Another way of putting it...as we become more sophisticated, the universe becomes more sophisticated. That is why when we bypass one illusion, we run into another illusion.
33MrSmiley 1 year ago
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symphonyofscripture 1 year ago
@33MrSmiley Thanks! So, are you suggesting an infinite regress? An illusion, having an illusion of an illusion, having an illusion, ad infinitum?
symphonyofscripture 1 year ago
@symphonyofscripture Yeah, it is pretty much infinite. You have to think in the context that if the universe is infinite, then everything that could possibly ever happen has already happened...yet it hasn't.
Though the illusions are infinite, I think they all can be bypassed somehow. Maybe in death they are bypassed and you enter a new realm of illusions or hierarchy.
Everything we do is nothing more than learning and growing. The universe...that is why experiences good and bad are critical.
33MrSmiley 1 year ago
@symphonyofscripture The question is for what or what is the purpose. Well, if you did this for an eternity, you essential would be or become a god.
It is a fascinating concept and if accepted by an individual, very empowering increasing potential of the individual exponentially.
33MrSmiley 1 year ago
@33MrSmiley I see - Thank you for explaining that for me. But hasn't logic, philosophy and science all proven that the universe cannot be infinite? I mean, wouldn't you agree that an effect could not also, at the same time, be it's own cause? From what I understand, I hear you saying that everything is an effect of a preceding effect - where there is such a chain of events, of any sort, there must also be time - and time is not infinite...
symphonyofscripture 1 year ago
@symphonyofscripture Realistically, time is nothing more than human perception. It is a measurement of revolutions etc.. Look at Einstein's theory of relativity. It says space is curved. However, logic tells one that space has no properties. It is like saying God has properties.
I don't know about it being matter of fact-ly infinite or not being infinite. Depends on your perspective, which is what philosophy is all about. My opinion in short is that it is and isn't infinite.
33MrSmiley 1 year ago
@33MrSmiley I'm quite certain that Einstein's theory of relativity proved the universe actually had a beginning...
symphonyofscripture 1 year ago
@symphonyofscripture well sure, every faith and every science will believe that the universe had a beginning. but there is a problem. why are we searching for a beginning? why do we creatures feel that a beginning is so important that we NEED to search for it? will it matter if we find out how everything came to be? I don't think so, for sure. We will all reach the same end in MY opinion, so even if I know where everything originated from, I still am just going to look forward, we all should imo
rubberduckey111 10 months ago
i wonder i any body desagree having background music that some times is inthe way of the voice,
ROBECABAL 1 year ago
No oneness may be achieved if there is even one individual that has not reached enlightenment, and this is based on the fundamental nature of oneness, which we may know as: Oneness = everything. and Enlightenment = becoming/recognizing everything. Therefore, any individual minus everything (not enlightened) will equal anything less than everything. And if there is less than everything then there is no oneness to achieve.
crawlFace 2 years ago
Outstanding. This vid expresses many current debates about our understanding.
Without an increase in our accuracy and effectiveness of/for self (all relations), we will not achieve the extent that we recognize.
Simply put, we may then say: without the 'whole' there is no 'one'.
and without one, there can be no enlightenment.
Everybody has to move or none of us move !
crawlFace 2 years ago
Very interesting Video Thank you for sharing.
mistabiggz16 2 years ago