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  • god it's just brutal listening to moletrap commentate.. he's completely oblivious to what's happening in the game when he's talking because he's too preoccupied on his own opinion. COMMENTATE WHAT"S HAPPENING YOU NOOB

  • i<3Klaz xP

  • klazart sounds like half indian half scottish or something

  • Great exciting game.

  • this game made me happy and exited ^^

  • hope you didn't exit on your keyboard

  • lol :P.. ExcCited then....

  • i can speak ten words in a minute too

  • i think you might be challenged if you can't...

    but why ask me.

  • some can speak ten paragraphs :P

  • lol

  • I love you Klazart :D

  • gotta get that turd hatchery.

  • oh january, you are my summer haha, that would be funny if his wife could hear him through the door.

  • My god mijellin is so terribad.

    I acutally like moletraps commentary. go waste your stupid comment elsewhere.

  • he also said that luxury went in with a shitload of lings that cost a lot.

  • Gah. What "extra" expansion? 3 hatch openining is freaking standard in ZvP. So no it did not give him an "economic advantage".

  • Perhaps they meant that Luxury had an "economic advantage" not because he was ahead, but rather JangBi was behind.

  • We have a winner!

  • or maybe it's because he had 3 hatches and jangbi didn't?

  • 22:12 he doesnt have swarm critically so if jangbi can get in there with some zealots... does swarm reduce zealot effective ness then? :| good job klazart owns you rofl

  • klazart's commentary pwns the other two dudes.  They ramble about things that happened minutes ago.

  • WOOT! SOO EXCITING@

  • zerg always win:( i was goin for protoss jang bi

  • 3 a class commentators = triple A commentary. Great game

  • haha taliban. Great game though

  • both cholera and moletrap dont talk much whats going on on screen . like luxury taking out the corsairs.

  • ROFL "...what?" - Cholera @ 15:20

  • hah ye

  • yea the nada jangbi m/u was the single best tvp I have seen in... a long time.

  • SPOILER:

    totally bet on luxury and won

  • wtf klazart has a book? tell me more about it? does it teach me how to increase my wpm?

  • No it's a novel. Check out his channel and he explains how to view a few chapters and such.

  • Omg Jangbi misplaces a cannon. Loses forge. Loses forge second time which makes the +1 push a +0 push which can be easily defended with some decend defense. Also Jangbi wastes a large army to lurkers.

    Luxury played much more defenses than I expected. I think luxury would be better of taking down the 4rd earlier on. Because if Jangbi holded of a little longer he d definetily win.

  • so mrs klazart has started watching starcraft? yey!

  • hahaha lol no non-korean has won the wcg yet (and possibly wont in the future) the closest the foreigner got was 3rd place

  • PJ got to the semi final and lost to stork, so second place. (PJ is Chinese)

  • is that a normal placement of the cannon at the start or was is just not placed correctly?

    seems pretty crucial to have the cannon in range of your tech out front of ur base...not trying to act smart btw, just a genuine question.

  • he went cheap and didn't put two canons

  • yeah it was placed a little bit incorrectly, he probably wasn't expecting an early hit i guess

  • the error in placement was with the cannon. you have to place the forge there at that base to block a runby. then gateway fills gap to the zealot space between the gateway and the nexus

  • dang i just knew the others would be up by now. Disappointing, but you guys have done so much for the community and you're not getting paid so it's not that big of a deal. Hopefully they'll be up later today.

  • Anyone else love that Klazart is acquiring a bit of a Dublin twinge on some words?

    Always good to hear the Irish angle on SC :D

  • Which words in particular?

  • Without doubt most Dublin words I've heard from Klaz so far are "third" and "zerg".

    <3

  • This is really disappointing :(

    I've been waiting 16 hours for the next match.

    I don't think I can wait any longer...jon747

  • Word, I went to bed without watching this game - which was hard, really hard - since I wanted to see them all at once. Damn, the commentated games are so much more fun than the raw Korean vods - this is eating me up inside, gaah!

    Anyhow, GGs and well played by Luxury. Nice to have you back, Klazart, good luck with getting the book published!

  • ImperviousMason, I think the GomTV Classic starts at the round of 256, or something like that, and it's single elimination at least after the round of 64 (not sure about before that).

  • Where are the other games?

  • lol mrs klazaer

  • That defense at 5:13 was beautiful.

  • mrs klazart watches starcraft? mrs klazart wins!

  • ピカチュウ

  • less "cock block" comments plz

  • @Bpimpin24 the term is just being used poorly. Thanks for the contribution you brought to the discussion kid.

  • @kronbison This was a lil too long ago for you to comment on it dont you think?

  • Anyone know how exactly they decide on maps? I get that there's a fairly limited number of maps per season, but how do they choose which to use for a given series? Given the repeats (like in this series, Neo-H twice; Bisu v. Fantasy would've had a repeat also), is it random?

  • the first and last map are always the same, and there should never be any other repeats.

  • lol sarcasm

  • If nobody gave a crap about my comments, I wouldn't have gotten seven thumbs down and two replies within an hour. Seriously, if you're going to take a shit on every comment suggesting an actual improvement, there is no use in even having a comment section.

    And I do intend to commentate . . . Starcraft II. Some of us don't have the time and dedication of the best, yet.

    And in case you haven't noticed, I watch every single video they put out, so it's not that I dislike their commentary.

  • than stop being such an asshole.

  • He wasn't being an asshole. It's called constructive criticism. If they were Commentator Idol contestants they would have been told the same thing. It doesn't mean a lack of respect for what they do, just a bit of feedback.

  • I've noticed this problem as well. It's not a big deal, but it does reduce the quality of the commentary. So, it's a valid criticism.

    A possible solution in double/triple commentaries is to have one of the commentators pay attention to the build order while others talk about history/entertain.

    PS: I have no idea why you got so many thumbs down... I guess fans don't like their idols being criticized.

  • I agree with this, I love Cholera especially, but they just weren't paying attention to the game at the beginning.

  • you love Cholera very specially??:D

  • GoRush - 2000

    BoxeR - 2001

    BoxeR - 2002

    Ogogo - 2003

    XellOs - 2004

    fOru - 2005

    iloveoov - 2006

    Stork - 2007

    Luxury - 2008

  • WCG winner for ya

  • Frozean -2009 i'm gonna call it now xD

  • No, Hyuk

  • lol xD one never knows

  • hahaa

  • Comment removed

  • Nice pun with the forge, cholera.

  • where's the rest of the games!!!!???

  • seriously

  • jangbi only lost 2 games before this final... wow

  • no that would need a replay, and they don't release replays

  • you are so professional! good job guys

  • Haha

  • The other games coming any time soon?

  • <3 Klazart

  • did klazart say a TERD hatchery? lol thats the first time he's sound irish at all

  • Sure, 2 lings for a probe is a good trade, but the failed attack @ 9:05 cost Luxury map control, and allowed Jangbi to expand to a third and fourth base, more than making up for the loss of probes.

  • Jangbi didn't expand until much, much later, so i don't see a direct link with the 9:05 fight.

    After 9:05 fight, Jangbi didn't take advantage by immediately counter-attacking the 10-o'clock expansion with his remaining forces. Maybe, he couldn't do that because of the extra zerglings...

    Still, in the long-term, the 9:05 fight ended up being about even or benefited Luxury slightly. After the fight at 11:25, Jangbi was behind though.

  • With the zergling onslaught @ 9:05, Luxury lost 49 zerglings (~1250 minerals) and he took out 8 probes, a cannon, a forge and two zealots (900 minerals).

    Not a good exchange, but a lot better than what Jangbi got with his attack @ 15:15

  • losing probes is a lot more costly then just their base cost because of the lost production. you lose 6 lings and take out 3 probes you are ahead because probes are more valuable

  • Losing probes is more costly than losing zerglings in the midgame onward, but that isn't really the case in the early game. The cost of building zerglings at the expense of building drones then losing them is actually greater than the cost of actually building probes then losing them, because at least the probes mined for some of the time. However, replacing probes from two nexuses is, admittedly, more costly than replacing drones from three hatches. Also, delaying the forge upgrade was crucial.

  • When you are already in lead, that is definitely a good trade for zerg.

    Even just in even play, that may also be a good trade, Zerg needs more resources anyway.

  • plus 20+ sec of mining time

  • Thanks for counting it! I was wondering about that fight.

    However, I agree with others that the delay in upgrades and mining time made up the difference - I think it was about an even exchange.

  • damn those 10 cracklings can take out a base in a minute o.o

  • a minute?

    that is way too long.

  • the commentator that talks so fast makes it so epic lol.

  • yeah 3 of the best commentators at once! @Klaz We all will vote for your book ;) now we have the opportunity to give you something back...

  • That was a MASSIVE yawn at the beginning

  • I really liked this game. watching it again :)

  • WOOOOO i love you guys, totally made my day getting to watch this <3. Moletrap do you go to UC berkeley? we gotta meet up

  • awesome drops

  • God damn zergs and their Doom Drops. Whenever I see 6 overlords flying to my base, I die a little on the inside.

  • God damn inability to moving drop, everytime I see one storm on my drop zone kill everything in my drop I die a little inside :P

  • UR BUK > UR SC WATCH NU?!

  • SOOOOOOO EXCITED!!!!!!!

  • Great match and I'm looking forward to next set. "High Quality" video is still rather blurry - difficult to make out the numbers.

  • Just watch the Jon747 version and mute it alongside - takes five seconds to sync them up properly but if you really want the qualily that's an easy way to do it.

  • Unfortunately, Jon747's High Quality version is same as here. It's not a big deal.

  • It's one less compression generation away, mind you.

  • lmao at the taliban suicide bomber klazart comment. Hurray I've been cheering for luxury from the start

  • Haha ~

  • more!!! i cant wait any longer! T.T

  • yea, will they make the other matches?

  • Please adjust your audio to be louder on your vids. Big thanks anyway guys 8)

  • impressive

  • Yea it was an unforced error...but the placement of the forge was to create a wall in of some sort...it forces units to go around the gateway, because the gateway and the forge create a wall...nevertheless the cannon was still in a weird spot

    The ling rushed reminded me of what Combat said and showed in one of his videos...if the toss player doesnt constantly scout, you can do a sort of all in ling rush and catch him off guard

    Great commentary keep up the good work guys! As for Klaz... XDDDD

  • restocker, if you watch closely, Jangbi rebuilds his forge one hex to the right, which presumably was his intended placement initially.

  • The only thing that can get by that is lings, and lings can get by normal wall ins anyway...he made it for his zeals (for future use) to have better access...well thats what I think...not too sure, you may be right

  • Actually, you might be right and maybe he accidentally built his cannon one hex too far to the right. I mean, there was obviously some building error involved. It doesn't really matter in retrospect.

  • I think Luxury was trying to plague Jangbi's army in the first drop, if you look you'll notice three defilers, thus three swarms, and 3 plagues over the army, getting maybe half of it, softening it up. If he was trying to do damage, he should know that 4 ultras wont do that much verse alot of zealots :P

  • So nice to see a zerg that dont go on the cheap with defence on his bases.

  • Haha, Luxury's sunken is why I loved him.

    Remember those 14 or 15 sunkens in natural expo against Flash in last year's OSL. That makes him my favorite player. Haha, he always has something special for us.

  • hah ye..i remember the commentators goin crazy at all his sunkens...good times :D

  • crap, I hope Jangbi can come back and destroy Luxury. I don't like zerg :P

  • This was a great game indeed. Also, I am a great supporter of all three the commentators, sadly enough the quality of the commentating was very poor.

    I felt that you guys missed alot (it was a 12 hatch, not an overpool f.e.), and it seemed you guys were with your mind somewhere else.

    Great game, not insightfull commentary this time.

    I am sorry

  • One thing I thought they missed (mighta been the lag issues), was Luxury's defiler play @ . He'd station his troops holding the outside of the choke, &-instead of committing lings and a swarm-he moved in the lings w/ a PLAGUE, quickly pulled back out to consume & let plague take it's effect on the lots, THEN went in with the swarm & tech units.

    Unlike temps & SVs, defilers are going to die. With this technique, Lux squeezes out the most outta defilers by ensuring a swarm/plague combo

    GG2 all!

  • spoiler

    OSGILIATH IS OVERRUN!!

  • i love that awkward silence at 24:45

  • lol wasnt awkward silence, vent lagged and we couldnt hear them

  • Thanks very much.

  • Oh janurary

    so literary widdit

  • i think boxer won 2 in a row

  • lol @ luxury yawning before competiting for his first title :D

  • Klazarts making a book? O:

  • "Oh January, you are my summer."

    HAHAHAAHHA

  • Me 2 ToT

  • lmao klazart is hilarious. gg

  • A turd hatchery?

  • park chan sooperman

  • Cholera, Moletrap & Klazart & Diggity are the best!!

  • i miss HQ =(((

  • Same here I was surprised it wasn't available in high quality.

  • patience, patience - most of the time when people are moaning about no HQ it's just because the vid was freshly uploaded and the HQ version isn't finished processing. When a new video goes online it's not available until it is finished processing. The low quality version, obviously, finishes first and the HQ takes sometimes an hour or more to kick in.

  • Mass lings-> turtle zerg-> sauron zerg

  • What's Turtle Zerg ? Properly defending the bases ? I think Luxury did a great job at it B)

  • "tink" "turd" i don't think klazart knows how to pronounce words with "th" XD

  • hahhhaah i love the sync at the end.

    awkward pauses are the best.

  • WTF, they win it every year.

  • you're wrong.

  • WHOA, that attack of Jangbi's at 15:20 was really suicidal..It was basically a death trap.6-7 lurkers separated around, few sunkens and lings to block.Bad decision..

  • lul @ da end 22:00

    Klazart N moletrap Overlap

    lolloolloolololoo

    GG

  • Mrs. Klazart is a noob. love ya klaz.

  • Just hope she doesn't do a "you could help more with the housework! into a "you're sleeping on the couch!" build.

    There is no counter or balance patch for that.

  • hahahahahahahahaha.

  • I think Stork won it at least twice

  • no, the only one person until now is Boxer :)

  • 5:54 "Turd Hatchery."

  • was tis commetated b4 the authonomy mess? jus curious

  • uh Koreans have won all the WCGs actually...

  • bump

  • luxury has wcg. does that count as a title?

  • Lol don't hate on WCG D:

  • It doesn't hold as much prestige as winning the the OSL and MSL since many of the opponents are foreigners.

    There a lot of good foreigners in the scene but good luck to anyone who versus a progamer that plays Starcraft for a living and his access to some of the best practice partners.

  • i know, but does it count as a title?

  • Veste, it isn't really the case that most opponents are foreigners. To even enter the WCG, Luxury had to be in the top three of WCG Korea, which is essentially all pros. Once in the WCG, he had to beat at least one Korean in the finals. You are correct that the WCG doesn't hold the same prestige that the MSL and OSL do, but in all honesty the performance is the same.

  • cool game! :) gg

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