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I worked with a guy called Dennis Sheehy who worked for Lead in the 80s and 90s , he knows what he's talking about , he lives in San Diego now ! He had the old VHS of Price , Faldo , Frost Etc
Awesome ! It doesn't get any better than this ! His book is spook underrated . "THE SWING " nice guy , fair , a sportsman , a gent ! End of ! Anybody that wants to learn or thinks they know about the golf swing will realise that this is sooooo good ! And will also understand how he gets the club back where it started !!!!!!!!
Especially if you consider where he started (cf. the old video of him working with Lead when he was younger, before the changes). You have to admire a guy who started out so flawed and became so repetitively good that some other players were comparing him to Hogan when he was at his best. It just blows me away that a commenter can say his swing "sucks," when he was #1 in the world at one time and is known as one of the best strikers of the past half-century.
I used to have lessons at the Leadbetter academy and Price's swing was often referenced. In answer to question on plane through the hitting area; he gets the club very upright halfway back giving himself plenty of room to re-rotate on the downswing. What you have to bear in mind is that he's naturally left handed so is able to pull hard to get the re-rotation. Most people who get this upright in backswing get across the line and start down with a big heave of right shoulder.
Fantastic Technique and a damn great bloke, chatted with him at he Open many years ago and if I had not said I had to go I would still be there chatting - amazing
I am still trying to figure out how he gets the shaft at impact so exactly back to where it was at address. No other great player does it this precisely, which probably goes a long way toward explaining why he hits so many shots dead solid.
Somehow I knew somebody would bring up Moe. OK, I'll go look at his shaft angle at address v. at impact. But honestly, by "great player" I was talking about guys who spent a whole career playing tournaments against the best in the world. I'm not disputing for one second the fact that Norman is considered one of the greatest ballstrikers who ever picked up a club.
You know, this guy was the best in the world at one time, and there are like three or four vids on YT of him. You can find all the Anthony Kim you want, though. Jaysus.
I'll agree that his swing is not the prettiest swing in the looks category, but his fundamentals are so awesome. And he swings the same way every time. It's perfectly grooved. Who cares how it looks?? Look at Palmer's or Trevino's. It's ugly as hell but it works just fine.
How can anyone with any knowledge of the golf swing think Nick Price has an ugly swing? He starts out on a steep angle and then drops the club inside to hit one of the most repeatable and dependable draws in the history of golf. There are a lot of moronic ignorant fucks on youtube! One of the best swings in golf history! This guy hit more irons within 5 feet than almost anyone!
He also got the clubshaft so well planed at impact that I haven't found any of his contemporaries yet who matched him. No wonder he hit it in the middle of the face so often. Man, do I miss seeing him play well. If only he'd been a great putter, or at least a good putter more often...
Sorry, you probably know this already, but...by "planed" at impact, I mean the angle of the shaft matched the angle at address (on a DTL view) to an amazing degree, much more so than the average tour player, even.
This guy is maybe one of the greatest South African Golfers let alone one of the greats of all time, dont think he knows what the fuck he's doing haterz?
Wow! ppl are really listening to your comment when you're dropping F-bombs & calling names.
Golfers don't speak like that, don't disgrace golf with bad etiquette. If you want to talk golf, just talk golf and not trash. Or you just look like another youtube ranting fool.
nobody has a bad swing that is on the pga tour. in case u havent noticed, every pro (including nick price here) gets into a perfect position on the downswing. if you stop this swing on the downswing, ull see the butt pointing right at the ball, perfectly on plane!! so to the asshole who said its off plane, u are an idiot.
you should not be watching golf...you don't know nothing about golf....maybe you are too jealous ppl have the money to play golf while you can only play golf on Wii at home...sigh~
Yeah. It's so bad that he was #1 in the world at one time, and the pros who play with him describe his shots as close to Hogan's. Nice call--particularly wrt plane, since he's been widely noted as having the best downswing plane and the most perfect shaft angle at impact of any well-known pro.
if you dont put tigers swing in the pretty swing category than you dont watch golf. Tiger's swing is perfect, you cant say anything that's wrong with it.
If you like functionality, I don't know what could be prettier than TW's swing. Maybe not "beautiful" in a liquid sense like Snead, Els, Couples, Purtzer, Elkington, et al.--but definitely in function.
Really is great technique--not in the "pretty swing" category, but more a purposeful/functional swing--you know, like Hogan, Nicklaus, Woods, etc.
Price's shaft angle at impact (down-the-line view) is as perfect as it gets, planed out almost exactly where it was at address. People forget that for a brief time in the 1990s, this guy was the best player in the world, and for the past 20 years or so he's been known as a guy who gets centerface contact with amazing consistency.
Really? Strange. He's just about universally thought of as the nicest, most decent guy out there. Must've been a bad day.
I totally agree with you about #2. When he was beating everybody back then, he was unbelievable. If his putting were better, he'd contend with Tiger for #1. Tiger's putting is really what puts him over the top, IMHO. He goes through entire tournaments hardly missing a single putt under six feet. Price was always kinda spotty with the putter, esp. on fast greens.
@emncaity so you've put woods and hogans swings into the not pretty, but purposeful/functional category, i stopped reading and thought "dickhead" after that bit, pretty sure most others will do the same
Really? I didn't think "dickhead" until I read your response. What a coincidence.
I guess you can see just how many people thought the same, since that comment appears above under "highest rated."
If you could read, you'd know I'm not dissing either of those swings; I think they're beautiful in the sense of being powerful, purposeful, and functional. I'm talking about the fact that in every generation, there's a small group of players whose swings are known as "pretty"...
@emncaity i don't care what sam snead thinks, i'll make my mind up myself thank you. fact is tiger's swing is pure poetry in motion and that was a grossly uneducated throw away line from a pseudo intellectual amateur golfer trying to sound witty. and way to overdo it replying four times, you must have really been steaming ;)
What you said isn't worth getting "steamed" about. It's more a matter of your kind of nonsense taking a bit more than the 500-character limit to address.
If you think Tiger's swing is in the "beautiful swing" category as it's been understood both now and in the past--aka Snead, Littler, Pate, Purtzer, Elkington, et al.--as opposed to "functional and effective," like a Hogan, Nicklaus, Nelson, Price, Norman at his best, etc.--I'll let that stand or fall on its own merits.
So, you just resort to inaccurate namecalling when you can't prove your point.
As for "pseudointellectual," you can post whatever evidence you want that I am what you say. The last person to make that charge had to slink away after I arranged a way for him to put his money where his very loud mouth was. How about you?
Re "amateur," I've played as a pro (at a lower level, having to fit it in regionally with other work) and the last handicap I had as an amateur was plus-2. You?
Read it again: Plus-2, not 2. That's two better than scratch. Where I come from even that is sort of marginal if you want to become a leading tour player. Plus-4 or better is a surer bet, depending on the courses one plays.
@emncaity D'oh! Yeah, definitely read that wrong. My bad. And yeah for sure you need to play lot better than scratch if you want to win consistently on tour.
I was close, but I didn't think I could drive it in the fairway for four straight days every week, and I didn't want to be a marginal player. Now I'm kicking myself for not just making the leap and trying to get better once I got there. There's also the fact that it hardly even matters whether you hit fairways now. At the '08 U.S. Open, for instance, both Woods and Mediate hit barely over 50% of fairways and yet tied for first and went into a playoff. Ridiculous.
I was close, but I didn't think I could drive it in the fairway for four straight days every week, and I didn't want to be a marginal player. Now I'm kicking myself for not just making the leap and trying to get better once I got there. There's also the fact that it hardly even matters whether you hit fairways now. At the '08 U.S. Open, for instance, both Woods and Mediate hit barely over 50% of fairways and yet tied for first and went into a playoff. Ridiculous.
I was close, but I didn't think I could drive it in the fairway for four straight days every week, and I didn't want to be a marginal player. Now I'm kicking myself for not just making the leap and trying to get better once I got there. There's also the fact that it hardly even matters whether you hit fairways now. At the '08 U.S. Open, for instance, both Woods and Mediate hit barely over half the fairways and yet tied for first and went into a playoff. Ridiculous.
I was close, but I didn't think I could hit enough fairways for four straight days and I didn't want to be a marginal player. Now I'm kicking myself for not making the leap and just getting better once I got out there. Also, it hardly matters now whether you hit fairways or not anyhow. At the 2008 U.S. Open, Woods and Mediate hit barely over half the fairways and still tied for a playoff. Ridiculous.
I was close, but I didn't think I could hit enough fairways for four straight days and I didn't want to be a marginal player. Now I'm kicking myself for not making the leap and just getting better once I got out there. Also, it hardly matters now whether you hit fairways or not anyhow. At the 2008 US Open, Woods and Mediate hit barely over half the fairways and still tied for a playoff. Ridiculous.
I was close, but I didn't think I could hit enough fairways for four straight days and I didn't want to be a marginal player. Now I'm kicking myself for not making the leap and just getting better once I got out there.
I was close, but I didn't think I could hit enough fairways for four straight days and I didn't want to be a marginal player. Now I'm kicking myself for not making the leap and just getting better once I got out there. Also, it hardly matters now whether you hit fairways or not anyhow. At the 2008 U.S. Open, Woods and Mediate hit barely over half the fairways and still tied for a playoff. Ridiculous.
...as in, "aesthetically pleasing in their own right because of a slowish, effortless rhythm." Snead was the clear exception, but there were others: Gene Littler. Jerry Pate. Lou Graham. Tom Purtzer. Steve Elkington. All of them called (and even voted by fellow tour players) "prettiest" at one point or another, but none of them dominant. That was the point. Take it or don't, I'll sleep either way.
No such thing as simple disagreement on comment lists, I guess. You can't just make your case; you have to call somebody a "dickhead" and then summon up an entire imaginary army of people who agree with you. Some sad lives out there.
For the record, I absolutely love Nick Price's swing.
Oh, also: You can argue with Sam Snead (the winningest American player in history) if you can reach him in the next life, since he agreed down to the letter with what I'm saying about Hogan. Snead actually said he'd avoid watching Hogan when they were paired--he called it Hogan's "whoosh-whoosh" swing--but you couldn't argue with the results.
Wow...I have no idea how that same message got posted over and over. I'd apologize, but I know I hit "send" only once. Been having big problems with Firefox, so I don't know if that had anything to do with it...
emncaity 8 months ago
@emncaity They're different messages so you have sent it more than once
MrLon2011 7 months ago
I worked with a guy called Dennis Sheehy who worked for Lead in the 80s and 90s , he knows what he's talking about , he lives in San Diego now ! He had the old VHS of Price , Faldo , Frost Etc
dtpro1 11 months ago
quick and powerful moves
LGLG69 1 year ago
nobodys perfect..
RONANPURCELL2K10 1 year ago
Awesome ! It doesn't get any better than this ! His book is spook underrated . "THE SWING " nice guy , fair , a sportsman , a gent ! End of ! Anybody that wants to learn or thinks they know about the golf swing will realise that this is sooooo good ! And will also understand how he gets the club back where it started !!!!!!!!
dtpro1 1 year ago
@dtpro1
Especially if you consider where he started (cf. the old video of him working with Lead when he was younger, before the changes). You have to admire a guy who started out so flawed and became so repetitively good that some other players were comparing him to Hogan when he was at his best. It just blows me away that a commenter can say his swing "sucks," when he was #1 in the world at one time and is known as one of the best strikers of the past half-century.
emncaity 11 months ago
excellent swing....
TheBigezee77 1 year ago
i think his swings sucks actually... wtF?
CroNiKGaming 1 year ago
I used to have lessons at the Leadbetter academy and Price's swing was often referenced. In answer to question on plane through the hitting area; he gets the club very upright halfway back giving himself plenty of room to re-rotate on the downswing. What you have to bear in mind is that he's naturally left handed so is able to pull hard to get the re-rotation. Most people who get this upright in backswing get across the line and start down with a big heave of right shoulder.
soml 1 year ago
Fantastic Technique and a damn great bloke, chatted with him at he Open many years ago and if I had not said I had to go I would still be there chatting - amazing
paultatters 2 years ago
No such thing as a perfect swing, just one that works for each individual golfer
jackXXburn44 2 years ago 2
I am still trying to figure out how he gets the shaft at impact so exactly back to where it was at address. No other great player does it this precisely, which probably goes a long way toward explaining why he hits so many shots dead solid.
emncaity 2 years ago
No other great player?! Do your homework first...
Just google Moe Norman. Least orthodox, best ball striker ever period.
MicrowavedHamster 2 years ago
Somehow I knew somebody would bring up Moe. OK, I'll go look at his shaft angle at address v. at impact. But honestly, by "great player" I was talking about guys who spent a whole career playing tournaments against the best in the world. I'm not disputing for one second the fact that Norman is considered one of the greatest ballstrikers who ever picked up a club.
emncaity 2 years ago
You know, this guy was the best in the world at one time, and there are like three or four vids on YT of him. You can find all the Anthony Kim you want, though. Jaysus.
emncaity 2 years ago
Swing is too fast for most golfers. Would not try to duplicate or teach to anyone. He gets it done because it's his own swing. One of a kind!
FrancoisElGuapo 2 years ago
I'll agree that his swing is not the prettiest swing in the looks category, but his fundamentals are so awesome. And he swings the same way every time. It's perfectly grooved. Who cares how it looks?? Look at Palmer's or Trevino's. It's ugly as hell but it works just fine.
CompleteDominance 2 years ago
+1 ... He has the second prettiest CP release of all time (Hogan, the first). That's good enough for me.
trapsmv9 2 years ago
That's exactly right, trap. No accident that when he was at his best, he hit it a lot like Hogan in terms of consistency.
emncaity 2 years ago
How can anyone with any knowledge of the golf swing think Nick Price has an ugly swing? He starts out on a steep angle and then drops the club inside to hit one of the most repeatable and dependable draws in the history of golf. There are a lot of moronic ignorant fucks on youtube! One of the best swings in golf history! This guy hit more irons within 5 feet than almost anyone!
gitfidil76 2 years ago
He also got the clubshaft so well planed at impact that I haven't found any of his contemporaries yet who matched him. No wonder he hit it in the middle of the face so often. Man, do I miss seeing him play well. If only he'd been a great putter, or at least a good putter more often...
emncaity 2 years ago
Sorry, you probably know this already, but...by "planed" at impact, I mean the angle of the shaft matched the angle at address (on a DTL view) to an amazing degree, much more so than the average tour player, even.
emncaity 2 years ago
@gitfidil76
Who said it was "ugly"?
emncaity 11 months ago
This guy is maybe one of the greatest South African Golfers let alone one of the greats of all time, dont think he knows what the fuck he's doing haterz?
TKJ45 2 years ago
Wow! ppl are really listening to your comment when you're dropping F-bombs & calling names.
Golfers don't speak like that, don't disgrace golf with bad etiquette. If you want to talk golf, just talk golf and not trash. Or you just look like another youtube ranting fool.
Can't teach you more, got a life to live.
haoyunlu 2 years ago
shut the fuck up golf is a sport ho gives a sheet if you speek with dirty language most of the golfers on the tour say bad words you idiot
lesliecorralesvega1 2 years ago
@lesliecorralesvega1
Yeah, I'm sure you can project anybody as being as vulgar and ignorant as you are.
Maybe it's just that some of them just know when profanity is useful or appropriate and when it isn't.
emncaity 11 months ago
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Sorry, this is an ugly swing. It's funny just as if someone is good in ranking, their bad swings are praised to be a good swing.
haoyunlu 2 years ago
nobody has a bad swing that is on the pga tour. in case u havent noticed, every pro (including nick price here) gets into a perfect position on the downswing. if you stop this swing on the downswing, ull see the butt pointing right at the ball, perfectly on plane!! so to the asshole who said its off plane, u are an idiot.
mattyco1234 2 years ago
Saying most ppl have ugly swing but works. including pga pros. Look at Furyk, but he plays well.
haoyunlu 2 years ago
you should not be watching golf...you don't know nothing about golf....maybe you are too jealous ppl have the money to play golf while you can only play golf on Wii at home...sigh~
nomochenjojo 2 years ago
Plays every week and practice a ton. Just saying I am not going to copy that swing here.
haoyunlu 2 years ago
and you still suck & don't know nothing ...don't waste ur money
nomochenjojo 2 years ago
That is if you consider scratch golf a waste of money. I am entitled to my opinion in what I see.
haoyunlu 2 years ago
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alanshore17 2 years ago
The only weird thing about this swing is how he finishes at the end.
sbguard9 3 years ago
terrible swing, its loopy and off plane.
TWprojack 3 years ago
I thought it was great.
wang1433 3 years ago
its so terrible that this guy was rated number one in the world in the 90's you dumbass idiots.
thesource012007 2 years ago
Yeah. It's so bad that he was #1 in the world at one time, and the pros who play with him describe his shots as close to Hogan's. Nice call--particularly wrt plane, since he's been widely noted as having the best downswing plane and the most perfect shaft angle at impact of any well-known pro.
Man. Opinions really are like assholes.
emncaity 2 years ago 2
if you dont put tigers swing in the pretty swing category than you dont watch golf. Tiger's swing is perfect, you cant say anything that's wrong with it.
mattyco1234 3 years ago
If you like functionality, I don't know what could be prettier than TW's swing. Maybe not "beautiful" in a liquid sense like Snead, Els, Couples, Purtzer, Elkington, et al.--but definitely in function.
emncaity 2 years ago
ew i dun like his swing but hes good lol cant say anything bad XD
koberocksaa 3 years ago
Really is great technique--not in the "pretty swing" category, but more a purposeful/functional swing--you know, like Hogan, Nicklaus, Woods, etc.
Price's shaft angle at impact (down-the-line view) is as perfect as it gets, planed out almost exactly where it was at address. People forget that for a brief time in the 1990s, this guy was the best player in the world, and for the past 20 years or so he's been known as a guy who gets centerface contact with amazing consistency.
emncaity 4 years ago 3
price in his prime would be the number two player in the world today. He would also give tiger a run for his money.
ott67 4 years ago 2
@ott67
I know people think you're nuts for saying so, but that's SO true.
emncaity 11 months ago
met this guy at the Buick in 2000. real asshole. legendary player, but big prick in person.
ott67 4 years ago
Really? Strange. He's just about universally thought of as the nicest, most decent guy out there. Must've been a bad day.
I totally agree with you about #2. When he was beating everybody back then, he was unbelievable. If his putting were better, he'd contend with Tiger for #1. Tiger's putting is really what puts him over the top, IMHO. He goes through entire tournaments hardly missing a single putt under six feet. Price was always kinda spotty with the putter, esp. on fast greens.
emncaity 4 years ago 5
@emncaity so you've put woods and hogans swings into the not pretty, but purposeful/functional category, i stopped reading and thought "dickhead" after that bit, pretty sure most others will do the same
silowhore 11 months ago
@silowhore
Really? I didn't think "dickhead" until I read your response. What a coincidence.
I guess you can see just how many people thought the same, since that comment appears above under "highest rated."
If you could read, you'd know I'm not dissing either of those swings; I think they're beautiful in the sense of being powerful, purposeful, and functional. I'm talking about the fact that in every generation, there's a small group of players whose swings are known as "pretty"...
emncaity 11 months ago
@emncaity i don't care what sam snead thinks, i'll make my mind up myself thank you. fact is tiger's swing is pure poetry in motion and that was a grossly uneducated throw away line from a pseudo intellectual amateur golfer trying to sound witty. and way to overdo it replying four times, you must have really been steaming ;)
silowhore 11 months ago
@silowhore
What you said isn't worth getting "steamed" about. It's more a matter of your kind of nonsense taking a bit more than the 500-character limit to address.
If you think Tiger's swing is in the "beautiful swing" category as it's been understood both now and in the past--aka Snead, Littler, Pate, Purtzer, Elkington, et al.--as opposed to "functional and effective," like a Hogan, Nicklaus, Nelson, Price, Norman at his best, etc.--I'll let that stand or fall on its own merits.
emncaity 11 months ago
@silowhore
So, you just resort to inaccurate namecalling when you can't prove your point.
As for "pseudointellectual," you can post whatever evidence you want that I am what you say. The last person to make that charge had to slink away after I arranged a way for him to put his money where his very loud mouth was. How about you?
Re "amateur," I've played as a pro (at a lower level, having to fit it in regionally with other work) and the last handicap I had as an amateur was plus-2. You?
emncaity 11 months ago
@emncaity You've played as a pro with a two handicap? Yikes. Where I come from its scratch or gtfo.
lamontofnazareth 10 months ago
@lamontofnazareth
Read it again: Plus-2, not 2. That's two better than scratch. Where I come from even that is sort of marginal if you want to become a leading tour player. Plus-4 or better is a surer bet, depending on the courses one plays.
emncaity 10 months ago
@emncaity D'oh! Yeah, definitely read that wrong. My bad. And yeah for sure you need to play lot better than scratch if you want to win consistently on tour.
lamontofnazareth 10 months ago
@lamontofnazareth
I was close, but I didn't think I could drive it in the fairway for four straight days every week, and I didn't want to be a marginal player. Now I'm kicking myself for not just making the leap and trying to get better once I got there. There's also the fact that it hardly even matters whether you hit fairways now. At the '08 U.S. Open, for instance, both Woods and Mediate hit barely over 50% of fairways and yet tied for first and went into a playoff. Ridiculous.
emncaity 10 months ago
@lamontofnazareth
I was close, but I didn't think I could drive it in the fairway for four straight days every week, and I didn't want to be a marginal player. Now I'm kicking myself for not just making the leap and trying to get better once I got there. There's also the fact that it hardly even matters whether you hit fairways now. At the '08 U.S. Open, for instance, both Woods and Mediate hit barely over 50% of fairways and yet tied for first and went into a playoff. Ridiculous.
emncaity 10 months ago
@lamontofnazareth
I was close, but I didn't think I could drive it in the fairway for four straight days every week, and I didn't want to be a marginal player. Now I'm kicking myself for not just making the leap and trying to get better once I got there. There's also the fact that it hardly even matters whether you hit fairways now. At the '08 U.S. Open, for instance, both Woods and Mediate hit barely over half the fairways and yet tied for first and went into a playoff. Ridiculous.
emncaity 10 months ago
@lamontofnazareth
I was close, but I didn't think I could hit enough fairways for four straight days and I didn't want to be a marginal player. Now I'm kicking myself for not making the leap and just getting better once I got out there. Also, it hardly matters now whether you hit fairways or not anyhow. At the 2008 U.S. Open, Woods and Mediate hit barely over half the fairways and still tied for a playoff. Ridiculous.
emncaity 10 months ago
@lamontofnazareth
I was close, but I didn't think I could hit enough fairways for four straight days and I didn't want to be a marginal player. Now I'm kicking myself for not making the leap and just getting better once I got out there. Also, it hardly matters now whether you hit fairways or not anyhow. At the 2008 US Open, Woods and Mediate hit barely over half the fairways and still tied for a playoff. Ridiculous.
emncaity 10 months ago
@lamontofnazareth
I was close, but I didn't think I could hit enough fairways for four straight days and I didn't want to be a marginal player. Now I'm kicking myself for not making the leap and just getting better once I got out there.
emncaity 10 months ago
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I was close, but I didn't think I could hit enough fairways for four straight days and I didn't want to be a marginal player. Now I'm kicking myself for not making the leap and just getting better once I got out there. Also, it hardly matters now whether you hit fairways or not anyhow. At the 2008 U.S. Open, Woods and Mediate hit barely over half the fairways and still tied for a playoff. Ridiculous.
emncaity 10 months ago
@silowhore
...as in, "aesthetically pleasing in their own right because of a slowish, effortless rhythm." Snead was the clear exception, but there were others: Gene Littler. Jerry Pate. Lou Graham. Tom Purtzer. Steve Elkington. All of them called (and even voted by fellow tour players) "prettiest" at one point or another, but none of them dominant. That was the point. Take it or don't, I'll sleep either way.
emncaity 11 months ago
@silowhore
No such thing as simple disagreement on comment lists, I guess. You can't just make your case; you have to call somebody a "dickhead" and then summon up an entire imaginary army of people who agree with you. Some sad lives out there.
For the record, I absolutely love Nick Price's swing.
emncaity 11 months ago
@silowhore
Oh, also: You can argue with Sam Snead (the winningest American player in history) if you can reach him in the next life, since he agreed down to the letter with what I'm saying about Hogan. Snead actually said he'd avoid watching Hogan when they were paired--he called it Hogan's "whoosh-whoosh" swing--but you couldn't argue with the results.
emncaity 11 months ago