The best FF game I've played, good storyline, multiple characters, lots of loss and gain hope, it's all about friendship ---- from different parts of the world, waaahhh it's a sad sad world how hard they're fighting for this crazy and doomed world.
Whichever the translation, one thing remains certain... Aeris' death is NOTHING compared to Cid's death and Celes' subsequent suicide attempt. I damn near cry every time I see this scene... Aeris' death, while still pretty sad, doesn't even compare to this.
Aeris' death, while pretty sad in its own right, was NOTHING compared to this. Everything about this scene, from the absolute sadness, horror and despair of Celes believing she was the only person left alive, to her suicide attempt, tot that soul-crushing music... It all makes for one of the saddest scenes in video game history. It's so sad, that after seeing this scene one too many times, I ALWAYS make sure to do everything I can to revive Cid every time I play through this game.
I don't think I've ever agreed with a comment as much as I agree with this one, Psycho. For people playing through the first time, this was it. No one knew where the game was going to go from here. It couldn't get any worse. Kefka destroyed the world (something Sephiroth couldn't do ;) ), killed all her friends and then took away the only family she had. it just doesn't get any worse than that.
@AbsolutZeroGI1 Definitely agreed with you and PsychoB. The censorship in the SNES version kind of dampened the impact of the scene. It makes much more sense when the original script is restored.
Even though i was a small kid i knew she was commiting suicide here. And her crying as she's falling...WOW!! DArkest and most adult of ALL Final Fantasys. I mean Kefka killed Cyan's WHOLE city and made his little boy insane. Now thats....EVIL!
@oopopp - Same here. I played this game at age 7, and still got that she was trying to kill herself. The suicide context was pretty clear in the original version. I actually prefer the original version (even though Woolsey's translation has a lot of WTF lines), it has a touch of dark humor to it, which fits with the overall tone of the game.
When I first played this over a decade ago, I didn't make it this far I think .. and by the time I got there, I knew what was really being said and this scene is pretty sad. Although I think the dove was removed ..
There is nothing in the whole Final Fantasy XIII that can top this scene, or Aeris death... and it's not much because these were fantastic games rather than because today's Final Fantasy games suck ass.
"One died quickly, another went mad and killed himself, another died of sorrow, one drowned himself, and the last one jumped of the cliff at the North Cape... perked 'em right up!"
Amazing post, so great that US fans who didn't know about the scene change get to see it.
As far as story is concerned, not only does this make much more sense, but it's much more powerful than the US version. I do realize this game was made in 1994, but the story is still one of the best I've come across to this day, and as sad as this scene is, it deserves its spot as one of the greatest scenes in video game history.
The Final Fantasy series isn't what it used to be, but this is priceless.
@DGneoseeker1 She still tried to kill herself in both the GBA, SNES, and PSX versions. Just the dialogue was censored... Basically the US dialogue in this scene suggested that the other survivors jumped off the cliffs and it "perked em' right up".
The first time I played through this scene, it never even registered in my brain that it was a "leap of faith" to "perk" someone up. I knew damn well that it was suicide, it didn't matter what words were on the screen.
That speaks volumes of how well the scene was set up (I feel sorry for those who used a guide to save Cid, and missed a pivotal point in Cele's character development.)
She lost everyone, and lost all hope; I don't think I've seen ANY character who had so much taken away.
I have to be quite honest, when I first played this game (not too long ago, I didn't grow up with it), I actuall thought that this was the ending of the game. I thought it was supposed to be sad with everyone dead, like Shadow of the Colossus. (I thought Kefka died when he got crushed between the statues by Shadow.)
This part of the game kinda pisses me off. It gives you a mini-game about keeping Cid alive. If you 'win', you get a very dramatically flat scene with Celes being ushered off to the mainland unceremoniously by Cid, in contradiction of everything he has said to date. If you 'lose', you get this, one of the most powerful and moving scenes in the entirety of Final Fantasy. Basically, the designers were encouraging you to kill the old bastard.
shit, where are the golden ff times?? all old ff games are awesome: ff4,ff5,ff6,ff7.. ok ff8 and ff9 are great too... ff10..hm okay, its good!... ff12...... hm i dont know... its become worser and worser
@Kaworu235 As a gamer who played all 13 final fantasies...FFIV random encounters killed the game for me, FFVI is still one of my favorite game ever..but I really don't understand the hype around Final fantasy VII(and even VIII which I liked)... FFVII characters and story were bland and boring.... I thought XII and XIII were better then them...even if it's a different gameplay and feeling...they were still pretty good games(I know XIII has flaw...equipement upgrade system is horrible..) ...
You know what's funny? The "leap of faith... perk you right up!" translation really works. When I played this as a kid, the whole suicide scene just confused the heck out of me! lol.
@klutterkicker No it doesn't. Leaps of faith to almost certain death were far more confusing.
I think Woolsey made a point of obfusticating the situation. The Japanese were one arrogant bunch back then, who had no understanding of America. Same crap would have happened to FFVII, too, if not for the Unofficial Squaresoft Homepage petition.
Where can I find FFIV, V, VI fan translation roms? FFIV: cause of the difficult, FFV: because was never released in US, FFVI: because of the name of the magics ( prefer Firaga than Fire 3... ) and the translation.
At the point in this scene where you can control Celes, I decided to go on the world map and see what happened. Well I got into a random battle, got killed, and got sent all the way back to the floating continent. So Celes actually did end up killing herself lol!
How did you get killed in a random battle? The enemys are so weak on solitary island they die without hitting them and they dont do anything for damage.
After the last fight, Celes was only a few points away from death and I thought I was healed up in the next world. That clearly wasn't the case. One of them hit me, did a few points of damage, and I died. Then it sent me back to the floating continent before the ultima weapon fight.
Oh man... nostalgia. I totally cried the first time I played this. This, Aeris's death, and (oddly enough) saying goodbye to Saria in Zelda: Ocarina of Time are the only scenes in gaming that have made me do that... or come close to it, anyway.
aeris's death had no weight cause they killed her off way too soon in the story. not to mention the characters in FF7 had no personality and were all 1 dimensional. all i felt for aeris when she was slain was the fact that sephiroth took a life. it had nothing to do with aeris herself as a character.
Ah, what blind favoritism. if you can honestly say the characters of ffvii didnt have any personality, you most likely havent played it and only hate it because of the fandom. A game isnt good or bad because alot of people like it, stop it. All ff games have their pros and cons, I would know, since Ive played almost the entire main series.
@fruitytuttiluigi I don't see what you are trying to say. The reason I said that to you is because the odds are, the person won't respond rendering your comment useless, unless someone else comes along to either agree or disagree with you. But what you have to understand is that, if this was an Aeris death video, people would get thumbed up for calling FF7 the "best game ever" because the internet just works that way. If you tried to call FF6 better on an FF7 video, it wouldn't work, vice versa.
Oh woops, i swear i thought this was the guy who made that comment, sorry, should have checked the name
Um, so whats your point? Are you saying ff7 is a worse game because theres a large fanbase because of it? Otherwise do you mind helping me understand what you're trying tosay?
@fruitytuttiluigi What I'm trying to say is that everyone has an opinion over their favorite FF. FF6 and FF7 are often compared because of Kefka and Sepiroth. I think FF6 and FF7 are both unique in their own way, but FF7 is so popular because it was the first 3D FF that came out. But what I was saying before, is that if you commented on an FF7 video saying it was the best, people would thumb up your comment. If you commented on an FF6 video saying it was the best, you'd get thumbed up there...
Ill be honest, I cant take that opinion argument seriously because of the fact that many ff players are purists, they dont really see a game for what it is and would rather compare it to their favorite ff game.
And oh, I see what you're saying now. Good day then.
No offense but if you honestly think the ff characters have no personalities, then I really doubt you played the game at all. Seriously you have to be a blind idiot to not see the characterization, and I'm not even that much of a fan of ff7.
And you cant exactly pull the cliche card either, considering ff7 was the game that started the cliches =/
How exactly am I being a hypocrite? All Im saying is that ff7 doesnt deserve the hate that it gets. Also, I never said that ff7 was the best, just that its not the crappy game haters point it out to be. You cant judge a game by comparing it to other but by playing it as its own game.
I personally like all ff games to an extent so you cant really accuse me of blind favoritism =/.
The problem Im having though is he accuses ff7 of having flaws but doesnt back them up. Im all for opinions but there's a difference between a good opinion and a cop out opinion you make to hate on a game because of either a large fanbase or it overshadows some game they like.
I've come over that kind of opinions many times, you cant imagine how much I want to put my hands through my computer screen and choke someone....
@corvettez06usa ya good way to put it. FF7 wasn't as good as people say it was OH MY WE GOT TO GO THERE" WHY" CAUSE SEPHIROTH SOMETHING SOMETHING SOMETHING. No story no romance almost as bad of a story as FF1.
@corvettez06usa Indeed. And I always thought Cloud's sudden bout of emoness at her death was unfounded. I mean, I am a romance buff. But they had like, two scenes with each other where they never said anything. There was no foundation to establish the basis for that romance. Cloud just suddenly falls in love right before she dies. Why? What did they share? Nothing.
And lets be honest, Sephiroth is a horrible villian. Want an awesome villain? Try Kefka or better, Luca Blight.
@corvettez06usa Idk about that. It made sense since it was said in the game that if a soul seeking the maigc, Holy, reached the planet, then Holy would come to stop the meteor. Aeris died seeking Holy, and that caused the magic to awaken. Also, the characters did have personality (ex. Barret pretty much losing it when he thought his daughter Marlene had died when the Sector 7 plate crashed down). And, Aeris's death DID have weight as it was named one of the most shocking scenes in video games.
I do agree... I was spoiled about Aerith's death and it made me kinda sad... Celes suicide, of wich I wasnt even spoiled about it, never really got my attention... maybe because there was the option of saving Cid... or because she didnt die at all
@BinaryDood Well, I thot Celes "death" was pretty sad. Even thought she didn't die, you don't know that the first time you play it (though I've never played it either). I kinda want to play VI though. Looks like a pretty good game.
I can see that you are simply blinded by unfair comparations... and awfully biased aganist a great game... and everything you just said.. god, so much wrong in that
@corvettez06usa While I wouldn't say that the FFVII characters had no personality, I definitely think that most of them could have definitely used some more mandatory screen time. If they had Cloud build up a relationship with Aerith as they were chasing Sephiroth, then it would have been a sadder scene, but since they ignore their relationship after Midgar up until the date scene (which you don't even have to have with Aerith), it didn't have much of an impact on me.
It was just the shitty translation. There's no way a game back then could have mentioned someone actually starving themself to death or drowning themselves, so, they had to dress it up so they didn't explicitly mention suicide.
FF games have become more mature since the dark ages of translation. (Dark due to censorship. Even with some of the errors, there were a lot of great lines, like "YOU SPOONY BARD!")
Japan and America are two very different countries. Granted that by today the US has gotten used to gaming enough to where they can tolerate more, but no way would talking about suicide have flown 15 years ago when this game was released.
The best FF game I've played, good storyline, multiple characters, lots of loss and gain hope, it's all about friendship ---- from different parts of the world, waaahhh it's a sad sad world how hard they're fighting for this crazy and doomed world.
farraliz 3 months ago
Whichever the translation, one thing remains certain... Aeris' death is NOTHING compared to Cid's death and Celes' subsequent suicide attempt. I damn near cry every time I see this scene... Aeris' death, while still pretty sad, doesn't even compare to this.
XPsychoBurgundyX 4 months ago
The dead dove, they come back in a big way in the ending
Ui2019 4 months ago
lol i prepared for battle at the end when i heard the random encounter sound.
hardr0ck 5 months ago
Aeris' death, while pretty sad in its own right, was NOTHING compared to this. Everything about this scene, from the absolute sadness, horror and despair of Celes believing she was the only person left alive, to her suicide attempt, tot that soul-crushing music... It all makes for one of the saddest scenes in video game history. It's so sad, that after seeing this scene one too many times, I ALWAYS make sure to do everything I can to revive Cid every time I play through this game.
PsychoBurgundy6 6 months ago
@PsychoBurgundy6
I don't think I've ever agreed with a comment as much as I agree with this one, Psycho. For people playing through the first time, this was it. No one knew where the game was going to go from here. It couldn't get any worse. Kefka destroyed the world (something Sephiroth couldn't do ;) ), killed all her friends and then took away the only family she had. it just doesn't get any worse than that.
AbsolutZeroGI1 5 months ago
@AbsolutZeroGI1 Definitely agreed with you and PsychoB. The censorship in the SNES version kind of dampened the impact of the scene. It makes much more sense when the original script is restored.
SmaddyDiva 3 months ago
This is one of my favorite scenes in the game..
And this is a lot better than saving Cid.. i'm sorry old man
ArkFromTerranigma 6 months ago
Even though i was a small kid i knew she was commiting suicide here. And her crying as she's falling...WOW!! DArkest and most adult of ALL Final Fantasys. I mean Kefka killed Cyan's WHOLE city and made his little boy insane. Now thats....EVIL!
oopopp 6 months ago
@oopopp - Same here. I played this game at age 7, and still got that she was trying to kill herself. The suicide context was pretty clear in the original version. I actually prefer the original version (even though Woolsey's translation has a lot of WTF lines), it has a touch of dark humor to it, which fits with the overall tone of the game.
orangeblossom03 6 months ago
With the woosley version, i didn't even know she tried to commit suicide.
ambasa013 7 months ago
wow... as soon as the music came on, a sense of sadness hit me... yea, this scene makes more sense than than Woolsey's version.
Gridiron992 7 months ago
*birds on the rocks below* Hey you gonna jump? Lemme get a crack at that pussy first. Lemme find out.
Corey897 7 months ago
When I first played this over a decade ago, I didn't make it this far I think .. and by the time I got there, I knew what was really being said and this scene is pretty sad. Although I think the dove was removed ..
C-A
CatMuto 7 months ago
Way better than "took a leap" and "perked em right up!"
Kefkadet 8 months ago
UR A TERRIBLE GRANDDAUGHTER! D=<
EBA273 9 months ago
I heard the music at 0:12 and I thought it was going to play Zelda Fairy music for a second there o.o
Devintuel 9 months ago
There is nothing in the whole Final Fantasy XIII that can top this scene, or Aeris death... and it's not much because these were fantastic games rather than because today's Final Fantasy games suck ass.
DrossRotzank 9 months ago
Are these....tears? o.o
Puremage91694 10 months ago
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Why does she try to kill herself?
CarlosIsDown 10 months ago
Question: what happens in the ending if you don't find Locke?
I always saved Cid, btw. I couldn't bear to see this.
Falstaff85 11 months ago
T_T @ 1:17 till 1:26
Geckogold 11 months ago
And people wonder why I hate the new Final Fantasy games.
whostolecarlosrox 11 months ago 2
@rmyoung87 be happy the guy/chick/robot uploaded it
ithinkismellyou 11 months ago
Who else liked her a whole lot more after this?
spassisfun 1 year ago
"One died quickly, another went mad and killed himself, another died of sorrow, one drowned himself, and the last one jumped of the cliff at the North Cape... perked 'em right up!"
number154 1 year ago 7
@number154
"One downed an entire bottle of sleeping pills... Perked him right up!"
Charmolution 1 year ago
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Amazing post, so great that US fans who didn't know about the scene change get to see it.
As far as story is concerned, not only does this make much more sense, but it's much more powerful than the US version. I do realize this game was made in 1994, but the story is still one of the best I've come across to this day, and as sad as this scene is, it deserves its spot as one of the greatest scenes in video game history.
The Final Fantasy series isn't what it used to be, but this is priceless.
Thecookfather 1 year ago
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Thecookfather 1 year ago
This scene makes me want to jump off a cliff now, too. : (
scaIpeI 1 year ago
Woolsey?
Sephlock 1 year ago
@Valientlink
Yeah but stopping the vidoo stop the music, and kinda break the feeling...
Eloking 1 year ago
Hey, this is all wrong! Jumping off the cliff was a nice pick-me-up, like drinking a good cup of coffee or taking a quick, cold shower! :P
inferno232 1 year ago
No matter how many times I see this, I cry every time :(
heysupd00d 1 year ago
DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS WILL BE THE END OF-
*sees her jump off cliff*
What.
Sp0UtDuDe03 1 year ago
I would so pound Celes's tight snatch.
Deadperson213 1 year ago
in my opinion this is sadder than aeris' death
someone0209 1 year ago 6
PROTIP:
Jump on the rocks.
LamentOfInnocence1 1 year ago
Oh god this breaks my heart every time I see this....or hear it for that matter.....
Wake me up when games are like this again.
whostolecarlosrox 1 year ago
Shitty translation. Fixes censorship, but it's too literal and awkward.
CCrockyourass 1 year ago
@CCrockyourass I have to agree somewhat. I didn't like magitek being called "Magic Based Armor". everything is just "magic based"
Valientlink 1 year ago
Good grief, I didn't realise it was quite this DARK in the Japanese...
I vaguely remember this part of the game but for some reason I don't remember a suicide leap. How did they cover it up?
DGneoseeker1 1 year ago
@DGneoseeker1 She still tried to kill herself in both the GBA, SNES, and PSX versions. Just the dialogue was censored... Basically the US dialogue in this scene suggested that the other survivors jumped off the cliffs and it "perked em' right up".
Valientlink 1 year ago
@Valientlink I always took that to be facetious.
"Oh yeah, leapin' off that ol' cliff totally fixed all their problems.
Yep. They didn't need to eat or sleep either."
PAMuffinMan 1 year ago
The first time I played through this scene, it never even registered in my brain that it was a "leap of faith" to "perk" someone up. I knew damn well that it was suicide, it didn't matter what words were on the screen.
That speaks volumes of how well the scene was set up (I feel sorry for those who used a guide to save Cid, and missed a pivotal point in Cele's character development.)
She lost everyone, and lost all hope; I don't think I've seen ANY character who had so much taken away.
rahn45 1 year ago
NO CELES DON"T DO IT *GASP*
suddenndeath9 1 year ago
I cry everytime
kelsod100 1 year ago
I have to be quite honest, when I first played this game (not too long ago, I didn't grow up with it), I actuall thought that this was the ending of the game. I thought it was supposed to be sad with everyone dead, like Shadow of the Colossus. (I thought Kefka died when he got crushed between the statues by Shadow.)
Really sad scene.
gruntora 1 year ago
This part of the game kinda pisses me off. It gives you a mini-game about keeping Cid alive. If you 'win', you get a very dramatically flat scene with Celes being ushered off to the mainland unceremoniously by Cid, in contradiction of everything he has said to date. If you 'lose', you get this, one of the most powerful and moving scenes in the entirety of Final Fantasy. Basically, the designers were encouraging you to kill the old bastard.
IvanGroznyIV 1 year ago 2
Has someone put up a playthrough of this version on youtube? If so, I can't find it =/
MarioLazar 1 year ago
shit, where are the golden ff times?? all old ff games are awesome: ff4,ff5,ff6,ff7.. ok ff8 and ff9 are great too... ff10..hm okay, its good!... ff12...... hm i dont know... its become worser and worser
Kaworu235 1 year ago
@Kaworu235 As a gamer who played all 13 final fantasies...FFIV random encounters killed the game for me, FFVI is still one of my favorite game ever..but I really don't understand the hype around Final fantasy VII(and even VIII which I liked)... FFVII characters and story were bland and boring.... I thought XII and XIII were better then them...even if it's a different gameplay and feeling...they were still pretty good games(I know XIII has flaw...equipement upgrade system is horrible..) ...
LelouchRika 1 year ago
You know what's funny? The "leap of faith... perk you right up!" translation really works. When I played this as a kid, the whole suicide scene just confused the heck out of me! lol.
klutterkicker 1 year ago
@klutterkicker No it doesn't. Leaps of faith to almost certain death were far more confusing.
I think Woolsey made a point of obfusticating the situation. The Japanese were one arrogant bunch back then, who had no understanding of America. Same crap would have happened to FFVII, too, if not for the Unofficial Squaresoft Homepage petition.
tcaudilllg 1 year ago
@tcaudilllg I think you misunderstood the intention of my comment.
klutterkicker 1 year ago
@tcaudilllg I was not trying to say that it works as an accurate translation.
klutterkicker 1 year ago
Where can I find FFIV, V, VI fan translation roms? FFIV: cause of the difficult, FFV: because was never released in US, FFVI: because of the name of the magics ( prefer Firaga than Fire 3... ) and the translation.
Volviert 1 year ago
evrey one knows the line "YOU SPOONY BARD!" but the true line(jp vershon) is "YOU SON OF A BITCH!"
3q89396 2 years ago 2
@3q89396 I heard the latter from the crazy guy who yelled at his cats,and no,it is not the Tourettes Guy.
Sp0UtDuDe03 1 year ago
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TheArca9 2 years ago
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I've just realized that this scene is a quote from Mirai Shoneno Conan.
if she started tossing progressively heavier rocks into the ocean... that would have been awesome.
ginnasticacaravaggio 2 years ago
At the point in this scene where you can control Celes, I decided to go on the world map and see what happened. Well I got into a random battle, got killed, and got sent all the way back to the floating continent. So Celes actually did end up killing herself lol!
PsychoKrazyTime 2 years ago
How did you get killed in a random battle? The enemys are so weak on solitary island they die without hitting them and they dont do anything for damage.
pgh5002 2 years ago
After the last fight, Celes was only a few points away from death and I thought I was healed up in the next world. That clearly wasn't the case. One of them hit me, did a few points of damage, and I died. Then it sent me back to the floating continent before the ultima weapon fight.
PsychoKrazyTime 2 years ago
well on this island theres a worm which spam sandstorm or pound i think and..it hurts ;\
blablamannn 2 years ago
Oh man... nostalgia. I totally cried the first time I played this. This, Aeris's death, and (oddly enough) saying goodbye to Saria in Zelda: Ocarina of Time are the only scenes in gaming that have made me do that... or come close to it, anyway.
gatotsu911 2 years ago 12
@gatotsu911 Wanna cry like crazy because of a game? Watch Illusion of Gaia's ending.
rashalfarid 1 year ago
mmm... good point. that's definitely a lot more emotional than this scene.
Valientlink 1 year ago
what is the name of the sad song, not from this video.. terra's sad song (not celes')
robinbeirne 2 years ago
The first song is Celes theme and the second is Forever rachel
Mankindux 2 years ago
Which is kind of ironic, because Rachel is Locke's ex-girlfriend, and Celes loves Locke. :p
bamapagedesign 2 years ago
Thats like the saddest song in the game and the saddest escene also, I love it.
Daphon90 3 years ago
spooky
7Angel7Vasquez7 3 years ago
You can save Cid, anyway
KefkaMD 3 years ago
Yeah, but arguably the story is better if you don't.
baixiaolang 3 years ago
Lucky for you, Cid gets riencarnated agian in the next game.
paladn95 3 years ago
To paladn95:
LOL
but anyway the saddest scene in video game history
ChadVision 3 years ago
Idk, Areith's death was also very depressing.
DarkLordNollaf 2 years ago 2
aeris's death had no weight cause they killed her off way too soon in the story. not to mention the characters in FF7 had no personality and were all 1 dimensional. all i felt for aeris when she was slain was the fact that sephiroth took a life. it had nothing to do with aeris herself as a character.
corvettez06usa 2 years ago 23
Totally agree.
bamapagedesign 2 years ago
@corvettez06usa
Ah, what blind favoritism. if you can honestly say the characters of ffvii didnt have any personality, you most likely havent played it and only hate it because of the fandom. A game isnt good or bad because alot of people like it, stop it. All ff games have their pros and cons, I would know, since Ive played almost the entire main series.
fruitytuttiluigi 1 year ago
@fruitytuttiluigi I really don't see why you want to start a debate with a comment that is one year old.
Chao.
Valientlink 1 year ago
@Valientlink
Why does it matter how long you posted that? You still have those views do you not?
Of course, anything can happen in a year, so just ignore me if your views have changed.
fruitytuttiluigi 1 year ago
@fruitytuttiluigi I don't see what you are trying to say. The reason I said that to you is because the odds are, the person won't respond rendering your comment useless, unless someone else comes along to either agree or disagree with you. But what you have to understand is that, if this was an Aeris death video, people would get thumbed up for calling FF7 the "best game ever" because the internet just works that way. If you tried to call FF6 better on an FF7 video, it wouldn't work, vice versa.
Valientlink 1 year ago
@Valientlink
Oh woops, i swear i thought this was the guy who made that comment, sorry, should have checked the name
Um, so whats your point? Are you saying ff7 is a worse game because theres a large fanbase because of it? Otherwise do you mind helping me understand what you're trying tosay?
fruitytuttiluigi 1 year ago
@fruitytuttiluigi What I'm trying to say is that everyone has an opinion over their favorite FF. FF6 and FF7 are often compared because of Kefka and Sepiroth. I think FF6 and FF7 are both unique in their own way, but FF7 is so popular because it was the first 3D FF that came out. But what I was saying before, is that if you commented on an FF7 video saying it was the best, people would thumb up your comment. If you commented on an FF6 video saying it was the best, you'd get thumbed up there...
Valientlink 1 year ago
@Valientlink
Ill be honest, I cant take that opinion argument seriously because of the fact that many ff players are purists, they dont really see a game for what it is and would rather compare it to their favorite ff game.
And oh, I see what you're saying now. Good day then.
fruitytuttiluigi 1 year ago
@fruitytuttiluigi I've played and beaten FF7 probably 6 times since its release. Blind favoritism? Hardly. More like a formulated opinion.
corvettez06usa 1 year ago
@corvettez06usa
No offense but if you honestly think the ff characters have no personalities, then I really doubt you played the game at all. Seriously you have to be a blind idiot to not see the characterization, and I'm not even that much of a fan of ff7.
And you cant exactly pull the cliche card either, considering ff7 was the game that started the cliches =/
fruitytuttiluigi 1 year ago
@fruitytuttiluigi And you accused me of blind favoritism...
corvettez06usa 1 year ago
@corvettez06usa
How exactly am I being a hypocrite? All Im saying is that ff7 doesnt deserve the hate that it gets. Also, I never said that ff7 was the best, just that its not the crappy game haters point it out to be. You cant judge a game by comparing it to other but by playing it as its own game.
I personally like all ff games to an extent so you cant really accuse me of blind favoritism =/.
fruitytuttiluigi 1 year ago
@fruitytuttiluigi Everyone has a different opinion... thus, arguing about which game is better is completely redundant.
Just accept his opinion and accept your own, and move on.
Valientlink 1 year ago
@Valientlink
The problem Im having though is he accuses ff7 of having flaws but doesnt back them up. Im all for opinions but there's a difference between a good opinion and a cop out opinion you make to hate on a game because of either a large fanbase or it overshadows some game they like.
I've come over that kind of opinions many times, you cant imagine how much I want to put my hands through my computer screen and choke someone....
fruitytuttiluigi 1 year ago
@fruitytuttiluigi What cliches did FFVII start? One of the protagonists getting their village burned down? FFII and FFIV already did that.
NostalgicSince2005 1 week ago
@corvettez06usa ya good way to put it. FF7 wasn't as good as people say it was OH MY WE GOT TO GO THERE" WHY" CAUSE SEPHIROTH SOMETHING SOMETHING SOMETHING. No story no romance almost as bad of a story as FF1.
DanMarik 1 year ago
@corvettez06usa Indeed. And I always thought Cloud's sudden bout of emoness at her death was unfounded. I mean, I am a romance buff. But they had like, two scenes with each other where they never said anything. There was no foundation to establish the basis for that romance. Cloud just suddenly falls in love right before she dies. Why? What did they share? Nothing.
And lets be honest, Sephiroth is a horrible villian. Want an awesome villain? Try Kefka or better, Luca Blight.
Str8Murder 11 months ago
@corvettez06usa Idk about that. It made sense since it was said in the game that if a soul seeking the maigc, Holy, reached the planet, then Holy would come to stop the meteor. Aeris died seeking Holy, and that caused the magic to awaken. Also, the characters did have personality (ex. Barret pretty much losing it when he thought his daughter Marlene had died when the Sector 7 plate crashed down). And, Aeris's death DID have weight as it was named one of the most shocking scenes in video games.
JohnnyRockerman 4 months ago
@JohnnyRockerman
I do agree... I was spoiled about Aerith's death and it made me kinda sad... Celes suicide, of wich I wasnt even spoiled about it, never really got my attention... maybe because there was the option of saving Cid... or because she didnt die at all
BinaryDood 4 months ago
@BinaryDood Well, I thot Celes "death" was pretty sad. Even thought she didn't die, you don't know that the first time you play it (though I've never played it either). I kinda want to play VI though. Looks like a pretty good game.
JohnnyRockerman 4 months ago
@JohnnyRockerman
one of SNES's best
BinaryDood 4 months ago
@corvettez06usa
I can see that you are simply blinded by unfair comparations... and awfully biased aganist a great game... and everything you just said.. god, so much wrong in that
BinaryDood 4 months ago
@corvettez06usa While I wouldn't say that the FFVII characters had no personality, I definitely think that most of them could have definitely used some more mandatory screen time. If they had Cloud build up a relationship with Aerith as they were chasing Sephiroth, then it would have been a sadder scene, but since they ignore their relationship after Midgar up until the date scene (which you don't even have to have with Aerith), it didn't have much of an impact on me.
NostalgicSince2005 1 week ago
Cid must probably the oldest ff character I saw him from IV to VII
BringbackLKandMX 2 years ago
He's in II, too, and pretty much every single one afterwards.
paladn95 2 years ago
I think your thinking of the same thing between 2 and 4 the american one is 2 the Japanese one is 4 so both of us is right
BringbackLKandMX 2 years ago
No, Cid was in the actual FFII, the one with Firion and stuff.
paladn95 2 years ago
I remember crying on this point of the game. I coudln't sleep the next night when I played this game. Luckily it was a weekend :D
Tuppenfall 3 years ago 4
So in the SNES FF3 version, Celes took a jump to regain her hope, but in the original, she tried to commit suicide?
sega31098 3 years ago
not really... She did that becouse of Cid and Locke.
sirius1606 3 years ago
It was just the shitty translation. There's no way a game back then could have mentioned someone actually starving themself to death or drowning themselves, so, they had to dress it up so they didn't explicitly mention suicide.
notdryad 3 years ago
They can in Japan.
Valientlink 3 years ago
And they can now in the US as I saw it in FF3 DS when (SPOILERS) Alus's father stabbed himself.
sega31098 3 years ago
FF games have become more mature since the dark ages of translation. (Dark due to censorship. Even with some of the errors, there were a lot of great lines, like "YOU SPOONY BARD!")
PAMuffinMan 3 years ago 3
Haha, Edward was so useless. :D
AnimeNameThatTune 3 years ago
@PAMuffinMan
Years later.....
The Spoony One was born.
Sp0UtDuDe03 1 year ago
@Valientlink
Japan and America are two very different countries. Granted that by today the US has gotten used to gaming enough to where they can tolerate more, but no way would talking about suicide have flown 15 years ago when this game was released.
WhiteTigerShiro 1 year ago
What translation is this? I know it's not the gba version, and it's not the NES version, so what is it?
CelesShadow 4 years ago
This is the SNES version translated from JAP to ENG. Ask megamanNG for a link if you are interested.
Valientlink 4 years ago
To get this scene, feed Cid only bad fish.
To save Cid, feed him the best fish.
NinjaGhostScorpion 4 years ago