Holy crap. Now there are even denominations of agnosticism? You people who need labels make me sick. Whatever happened to just simply NOT KNOWING (one way or the other)? A-gnostic...without knowledge, period. No sub-groups, no sects, no denominations, just HONESTY. We don't know.
sister "i believe there is one god who created this world and when we die we will meet him for eternal life in heaven or hell yes but dont take hell so easy it is forever burning and we wont die in hell as our body will all burnt or melted and then rebuilt and then burnt and then rebuild and so on and so on and so on forever and imagine fire(hell) of god who says i created sun ,can we able to look to sun just for i say few seconds i cant, can u?(try looking in sun for few seconds)
Gnosticism is stupid, nobody has absolute proof of anything. And there is no such thing as being only agnostic. You can claim agnostic thinking but you have to form an opinion on something. Simply claiming "oh I don't know" is ignorance and saying "you can't prove either side" is equivalent to not believing in a god, so you have four options
Gnostic theism- believing in a creator and claiming that it is 100% true and proven
Gnostic atheism- believing there is no creator and claiming it is 100
do u look to the sky,,,,do u look to the earth..who create them?? who create u? and give u eyes and ears and all?? allah (one god) who create us and we r here to worship allah.muslims believe in issa as a messenger of allah....issa is not a god..logically is there is a god die?christians said that issa died ..and they think that issa is a god.how could be?
we r muslims respect all religions and also respect who have no religion..we r the only religion that has a greaeting name...our greetings is(peace upon u)...u can just search about islam and see islam ethics,,,,,and also u can search about the most fastest spread religion..also u can search about the most greatest person on the history,,he is prophet mohamed..
do u look to the sky,,,,do u look to the earth..who create them?? who create u? and give u eyes and ears and all?? allah (one god) who create us and we r here to worship allah.muslims believe in issa as a messenger of allah....issa is not a god..logically is there is a god die?christians said that issa died ..and they think that issa is a god.how could be?
Hilarious....I have watched alot of your videos now and everyone seems very specifically demonic in nature. You do know that Satan tempted Eve the same way right? By offering her something delicious to eat as a way to confirm that she was turning away from the Creator? The more you run away from Jesus, the more closely you will resemble the demonic activity of the Bible.
@AlbinosaurusR3X ..I'm glad you asked! 1.) All of its prophecies have come true, and no other religion can even come close to claiming that. 2.) It explains the sum total of everything that we have discovered so far, for example the fact that the universe appears to be endless and far larger than ancient man could have comprehended, yet the Bible described it accurately. 3. ) There is an ingrained fractal pattern of all events in the Bible which is consistent from beginning to end.
@Laylow4now It really was more of a rhetorical question, because there are glaring inconsistencies throughout the bible, and there are lots of imaginary beings/places that we have no evidence ever had, do, or will exist. I also don't believe in fulfillment of "prophecy" due to the fact that they tend to be vague (see; Nostradamus) and open to interpretation. That said, I think it is "possible" there is/are (a) god(s)--just highly unlikely due to lack of apparent evidence.
"It came into my head as suggestively antithetic to the "gnostic". (agnostic)
"When I reached intellectual maturity and began to ask myself whether I was an atheist, a theist, or a pantheist; a materialist or an idealist; Christian or a freethinker; I found that the more I learned and reflected, the less ready was the answer; until, at last, I came to the conclusion that I had neither art nor part with any of these denominations, except the last."
Pure agnostics do not fall into the category of atheism.
Just because some atheists invented a definition that says everybody who isn`t a theist is automatically an atheist doesn`t mean that it`s logical or true.
It just shows their hunger for power so please stand your mental ground if you`re an agnostic.
Agnostics stand on the level on knowledge/truth and truth can not be overlapped or touched by any theist or atheist belief because it`s not even on the same level.
Agnosticism is just a rejection of gnostic claims. In other words, it's still a rejection of gnostic accounts of God(s) such as Shiva, Kratos, FSM, Jesus, Allah, Zeus, etc. but a suspension of judgment when it comes to deism/pandeism.
Agnosticism isn't confusion about theism vs atheism.
It's a case of "IF god IS real" (highly doubtful), then who cares. Unless you directly speak with this so called "god", then all you are going on is hearsay (not heresy, although according to the church, it may as well be).
So potential speculations aside, at least for me, there is really little difference from atheism.
@SmashtheCmachine I concur. The only real confusion is with all these atheists trying to redefine atheism to include agnostics, babies and cattle, and then not giving an explanation as to why we should accept theit newer redefinition. Nontheist describes us all anyway. If you go to "evilbibleDOTcom" and click on "Definition of Atheism", there's a very interseting article on the subject.
@incomprehensible14 Oh man, you just said the magic word when you mentioned Evilbible, that site has been a fave for dealing with ornery christians in their eternal quest to "save my soul". I haven't really checked out the description for atheism, yet. But I will, now that you mention it.
@SmashtheCmachine When they bring up "Pascal's Fallacy", be sure to mention the GIANT biblical loop hole found in Exodus32: 14. You can't miss it. It's the one where Yaweh blatantly CHANGES HIS MIND about killing (and presumably banishing to hell) a bunch of people who stopped worshipping him after taking the advice of a mortal. If Moses can change Yaweh's mind about sending people to hell, why can't other humans do the same? Compare to 1Samuel15: 29 for additional loop hole fun:D
ZOMGitsCiss believes in the weakness of human.. God believes in the strength of humanity. That's the difference between atheists and Christians. Believe - action - result. Now all of you go feel pitty about yourselves.
my reply to MRKAELIS,, FROM QURAN,,,,,,Sura 22:5 says "We created you out of dust, then out of sperm, then out of a leech-like clot, then from a morsel of flesh, partly formed and partly unformed ...
and another thing,,,,u didnt think who give u eyes and hands,,,,and all,,,,u didnt think who create the sun,,,and moon,,,,one god ,,,,allah send messengers like mohamed and issa and etccc ,,,to invite peoples to worship one god
If you think the amazing atheist is scary you should see his video on conspiracy theories. Can't remember the name, but the picture is of him wearing a tin foil hat.
If something does not exist,what kind of evidence could be given-in principle- to show that it doesn't exist?As much as I respect Carl Sagan,I believe that absence of evidence IS evidence of absence.
agnostism in my *opinion* in is the most intelligient position to have/ on another note athiest as many videos shown like to troll just as much as christiands do the reall athiest are in *china* the ones in these other countrys that arnt mostly athiest are just as ignorrant as the christians who hound them *vise versa* heres some advice you wanna have a nice *conversation* with somone els who doesnt believe what you believe thats fine but a debate isnt fine this kinda topic only for the mature.
@greco0994 The way you're talking suggests one can be an atheist OR an agnostic OR a theist/deist. Agnosticism deals with knowledge, (a)theism/deism deal with belief. Regardless of whether you're an agnostic you are also an atheist or theist/deist. Agnosticism is not a middle ground it deals with something completely different.
@greco0994 - i think there are certain aspects that atheists must be agnostic about eg the afterlife but we don't have to be happy about it, anyway atheism by definition is something your not, agnostic are just saying i don't know, i prefer hitchens antitheist position
Who gives a shit. Real atheists dont hound people the way christians do to non-believers, they just shut the fuck up. Believe it or not keeping your mouth shut speaks volumes about your intelligence.
@MissLeanaFaith Faith is a ridiculous concept. I'd rather have solid proof of something (ESPECIALLY when it comes to religion) before I go forming my entire life and opinions around that belief.
@MissLeanaFaith Umm. He said that if you have faith as a grain of mustard then his disciples would be able to perform works as he had and even greater. So. I need a mountain moved. Warm up that faith so we can spare the dynamite.
@MrKaelis The Bible says not to tempt God. But if you really need a miracle from God, and you have faith, and it's in God's will, then God will make it happen.
@MissLeanaFaith Ok, so which is it. Are you going with the God of Isaac and Abraham or are you going with Jesus? Matthew 7:7 definitely quotes Christ as saying, "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." Again, Matthew 17:20 "If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you."
@MissLeanaFaith And of course, Matthew 21:21-22 "Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done. And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive."
Seems clear to me that Jesus said nothing about seeing God working. He specifically said that you would be able to do those works yourself.
@MrKaelis Jesus and God of Isaac and Abraham are the same person, in different forms. And Jesus said that through him we CAN do these things, if we actually need to and aren't just tempting God. You can't just get your facts from one part of the Bible, you have to look at the whole thing.
I am told we can not prove or disprove a negative but we can lay waste to illogical absurd concepts with logic and reasoning. Gods are illogical and absurd.
"19. Do they not see the birds above them, spreading out their wings and folding them in? None upholds them except the Most Beneficent (Allah). Verily, He is the All-Seer of everything.
20. Who is he besides the Most Beneficent that can be an army to you to help you? The disbelievers are in nothing but delusion.
21. Who is he that can provide for you if He should withhold His provision? Nay, but they continue to be in pride, and (they) flee (from the truth)."
Have u lied? Have u stolen? Jesus said if you look at a women with lust you have committed adultery with here in your heart.
If God judge’s u by the Ten Commandments will u be innocent or guilty? Does this concern you? The Bible says despise the value of your eye compared to the value of your soul. would u sell your eye for a million dollars? And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. needgod.com
Love the video but 1 minor correction in my view nature is perfect it is only imperfect if we have a negative view of death. since there is birth and death there is a perfect balance in nature and very little suffering.
@alalal777 The truth is that perfection is a subjective concept with no real intrinsic value. You could say a car with its brakes cut doesn't function perfect, but the person who cut the brakes sure thinks it works perfectly for their purposes. There is no such thing as perfection.
u said no creator and no god ....................so who create u ??? who create these universe??/ one god create these universe (allah),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,we are here on these life for worship one god and doing allah orders which invite us to do good things on our life help poor and hungary ,,,no racism ,,,,,,,love each others ,,,,,,,,,holy quran .....i ask u to read holy quran ,,,,
@MyIslamlove Umm.. if you were to point to my origins then you need look no further than my mother and father. See, I was conceived through the process of sexual reproduction, just as you were. I challenge you to find even one person in all the world who was created - meaning that their existence came from nothing at all and their genetic makeup is wholly independent of outside sources. If you believe in Allah strictly based on this notion of creation, then you have been blinded by ignorance.
Respond to this video..FROM QURAn the answer( and We cause whom We will to rest in the wombs for an appointed term, then do We bring you out as babes.also by saying God "placed him as (a drop of) sperm (nutfah) in a place of rest, firmly fixed; then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood (alaqa); then out of that clot We made a (foetus) lump (mudghah), then We made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then We developed out of it another creature
@MrKaelis answer from quran( "We created you out of dust, then out of sperm, then out of a leech-like clot, then from a morsel of flesh, partly formed and partly unformed ... and We cause whom We will to rest in the wombs for an appointed term, then do We bring you out as babes
@MrKaelis also u wanna more write( Embryology in the Qur'an) on google or youtube,,,and click search,,,,,,,,,,,,,u will find more and more,,,,,hope u will be intersted
Does anyone know why theologikos doesn't make videos anymore? I went to his channel and he has activity in the last month, but hasn't uploaded a video in like 43 years...lol
And before any Atheists try to point out evidence. I have studied a lot of arguments with different theoretical basis for some time, Atheism presents a better case than Theism. That being said, all of Atheism ignores the fact that there is no beginning or end in sight. They can only look to the beginnings and ends of human existence, and that to me sounds like your head is stuck inside of a 3-D box. What existence is beyond our 3 dimensions? Most Atheists don't even ponder that, back to Theism.
Every man given explanation is inefficient and flawed. We just don't know enough, maybe we weren't meant to know. The hardest and yet the simplest thing to do is to accept uncertainty.
Atheism is an extreme materialistic stance that doesn't even attempt to answer the Metaphysics and chooses lacking over explanation.
There are many arguments for God/creative force/abstraction, dismissing those arguments makes you an atheist. Not claiming a position renders you an agnostic.
@HomuncuIus I have an explanation for metaphysical stuff: it's either something we can't explain yet, or they're bullshit. Come on, many things throughout history were seen as supernatural, but then came along some scientists who figured it out. Happens all the time.
@HomuncuIus Not claiming a position doesn't simply render you an agnostic, it's submitting to the fact that such an answer would be beyond any human comprehension. You can use all of the theoretical mathematics to prove where the universe is coming from and going to, but who is to say that's not all in a box? A program inside of God's computer... Who's to say God is even a comprehendible being? What is a being? These aren't questions either side of the spectrum are capable of answering.
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you are wrong about negatives, they can be prove wrong, what you can't do is prove an undeterminated negative proposition als "god dont exist" but this problem can be solve prubing the origin of the religious ideas, if you can show a cause yo been prove the human origin of the "omnipotent god", also you can prove the inconsistent atributes of god idea whit the structure of reality :P (sorry.. my English is not so good)... also i love you.
Join the Brights (dbleudbleudbleu.brightshouse.comm) as they just know there is no magic/mysticism in the universe; far more fantastic and wondrous than the limited imagination of the religious.
I have had a mental illness for a long time. I first gave serious thought to killing myself at the age of 12. I have tried everyone thing I possibly can to get better. I have tried mediation. It helped for a little while but then I got worse. I tried medication that helped a little.
The only lasting positive affect anything has had on my life is simply going to church.
Although I do admit I probably wouldn't have gone if I was so desperate to get better
agnostics are just pussy coward , who are just afraid that people are gonna get mad if they found out that they are athiests. you know that religious people are bully dont ya.
@rgbpvh Indeed, it says there's no evidence, but that doesn't have to logically follow that you're an agnost then. I'm an antheist, but I don't claim to know that there's no god, I just don't believe in one. That's all.
@KingofToxin Let me explain. Do you have evidence what happens after death? How could you know what happening, if you don't have evidence? No one back to life to tell to the world what happens. You're limited by theories
@rgbpvh well i m afraid of getting shot by my own friends . so no thanks .you see fear is a very poweful motivators. enjoy your freedom while you can.
@nicklaue I don't follow any dogma. I'm not afraid of what I don't know (hell, demons, gods, etc), I'm still skeptical about religions. My mind are free enough, to not only see the bad side of religion, as well as many do (especially atheists, like the girl in the video).
I fought judo for some years. Like other martial arts, his amazing philosophy is associated with religions. Can't you see the good side of religion?
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I think that it's useful to redefine god. Not as a being or entity, all knowing, loving, malevolent or anything at all.To push the idea that your life here and now should be adored, cherished and honored, instead of an invisible fear mongerer. Put energy into now and your future. Not into a pretend place you think you will go when you are dead.
@sokal91 Agnostic Athiest? I'd really like to get my hands on the illiterate moron who came up with that phrase, because I'm starting to see it all over the internetz. It's this year's 'noone', only far more obnoxious.
So do you think at any point you'll graduate to Gnostic Athiesm? They probably have cool robes and meet in a building every Wednesday. And the non-Lord said, 'Remember the Hump Day, and keep it humpy'. Amen. (or I guess that should be 'men', right? See what I did there?)
@eleutheromaniac ridiculous...most atheists are agnostic atheists without even knowing it. some just choose to title themselves that way and others do not...no need to get upset over it.
@PhilosoFighter2012 you can call yourself a blueberry panda if you like, but don't act like there's any logic behind it.
the phrase 'agnostic athiest' is gibberish. it's a basterdization both of the modern usage of those words as well as their etymological meaning. that's why i was making fun of the guy for being a 'gnostic athiest' because the phrase is just as idiotic as 'agnostic thiest'.
@eleutheromaniac agnostic means you don't think that the theory of a god can be proven or not...oh look i don't believe the theory of a god can be proven or not. atheist means you don't believe a god exists. oh look i don't believe a god exists. looks like I am an agnostic atheist. gnostic would mean you think it CAN be proven or unproven. so this guy is an atheist that thinks the theory of a god can be disproven. why do people have a hard time understanding this T.T
@PhilosoFighter2012 cuz you're inventing your own definitions of words instead of using the actual ones? mebbe?
agnostic means you don't know. you can't say you don't know and then you don't believe. it doesn't work that way. belief is the basis for all knowledge: that's not semantics, it's not opinion, it is 2+2=4. saying you're 'agnostic athiest' is like saying you've built a house with just a roof, and no foundation. in other words, it's not only retarded but logically impossible.
@eleutheromaniac sorry man. if you look it up you will find both of our definitions of agnostic. mine is correct and yours is one that developed over time due to the misunderstanding of the word. sorry...people that don't know are supposed to be called "undecided" but for some reason they keep labeling themselves as "agnostic" which is not right.
@PhilosoFighter2012 'developed over time', um, no. my definition comes from both modern usage and etymology....and dictionaries, encyclopaedias and basic common sense.
look up prefixes and find 'a-'; then look up 'gnosis'. now put the two definitions together just like you learned on sesame street. and that's how we get the definition for agnostic. it's fun to learn new things right?
btw, LOL@'undecided'. wtf are they teaching you kids? I weep for the future.
Noun: A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
first thing on google.
Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable.wiki
@PhilosoFighter2012 "a person who BELIEVES nothing is known or can be known". did you catch that? were the CAPS large enough?
the belief is that it is unknown or unknowable, understand? You cannot state that you have a belief that something is unknowable and then have a belief that it exists or doesn't exist--or believe anything about it one way or another.
Again, BELIEF is the foundation; knowledge is the structure you build on top of it. No foundation, no structure.
@eleutheromaniac yes yes you can. Let me lay it out VERY simply.
if someone asked me "Does a god exist?" I would say "I do not know." which would make me agnostic. If I said "No" or "Yes" that would make me gnostic. If someone asked me "Do you BELIEVE a god exists?" I would say "No I do not." which makes me an atheist. if I said "Yes I do." That would make me a theist. Understand?
@PhilosoFighter2012 No, saying "I do not know" means you are ignorant, that is not the same as being Agnostic. Agnostic means you believe nothing is known or can be known...including its existence.
Gnostic theist is redundent, because all Gnostics are theists, just like all Catholics are theists. Would you say someone is a Catholic theist? Of course not, because that would be idiotic and redundent. Gnosticism refers to a sect or group within a larger religious construct.
@PhilosoFighter2012 edit: "believe anything about it one way or another"... except that it is unknown or unknowable. That is where agnosticism stands on the issue of God. It is actually a very straight-forward, simplistic belief system that requires almost no interpretive skills...and yet....
@eleutheromaniac Do you even know what gnostic means anyway? geez...Is the theory of a god provable or not? depending on how you answer you will be either gnostic or agnostic. I don't know what you are trying to say with this last comment but if you are still fuzzy on this look for the fightingathiest's video "you are not agnostic."
@PhilosoFighter2012 'you don't know what I'm trying to say' wow. at this point i can't figure out of you're mildly retarded or heavily brainwashed. or maybe just trolling.
anyway, anything you need to know about agnosticism is in my previous comments. maybe try reading them? just an idea. or even wikipedia? google?
And yes, the existance of God can be proven, but I sure as hell ain't going down that road with you considering you can't even wrap your head around agnosticism lol.
@eleutheromaniac yeah...i am starting to think you are the troll here. i just friggin handed you the definitions of agnosticism from Google and Wikipedia and you still don't get it. I am telling you I know this. Agnostic does not mean "I don't know." okay? If you think the existence of god can be proven then you are a gnostic theist.How does me trying to explain a definition that has already been made in the simplest terms possible make me brainwashed?why did you have to turn this into a fight
@PhilosoFighter2012 i'm turning it 'into a fight' because i've shown pretty plainly that 2+2=4 and you continure to insist it equals 5.
You didn't use wikipedia or a dictionary. When you posted those definitions I actually wondered if you were conceding. Look at my response to that post again.
'gnostic theist' is redundent, and not necessarily true. It's like saying 'nihilist athiest': if you're a nihilist than you are an athiest, but not all athiests are nihilists.
@eleutheromaniac Your analogy does not make sense. You can't add 2+2 unless you know what two is which you do not. Yes I did use those definitions directly from the top searches on the internet. I am not conceding....and wow man. "And yes, the existance of God can be proven" you say. That means you are gnostic. And it is not redundant at all it is merely clarifying. Some theists think the existence of god cannot be proven, and they are agnostic. Is every word I say wasted on you?
I am proudly agnostic--I do not claim a side--I am just here existing--like a snow flake--or a chocolate cookie. Plato was once asked who was the wisest Philosopher. He claimed Socrates as the man understood what he does not know. Even a slim to none chance is still a chance. As long as a chance exists I cannot truly go one way or the other--all I can do is live my life...
There is a lot of ambiguity in theism and atheism, for us agnostics to understand. I think we all speak a different language (mentally) and there is no translation for it. I don't like the bible, or other theisms, but one has to respect the fact that it's powerful enough to make millions of people believe in it's positive influence it has in their lives. I don't idolize Atheist either, but I admire that they emerge from the mainstream to think differently. I like the best of both worlds.
Holy crap. Now there are even denominations of agnosticism? You people who need labels make me sick. Whatever happened to just simply NOT KNOWING (one way or the other)? A-gnostic...without knowledge, period. No sub-groups, no sects, no denominations, just HONESTY. We don't know.
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sister "i believe there is one god who created this world and when we die we will meet him for eternal life in heaven or hell yes but dont take hell so easy it is forever burning and we wont die in hell as our body will all burnt or melted and then rebuilt and then burnt and then rebuild and so on and so on and so on forever and imagine fire(hell) of god who says i created sun ,can we able to look to sun just for i say few seconds i cant, can u?(try looking in sun for few seconds)
chamtkar10101 4 weeks ago
@chamtkar10101 Your god sounds like a psychopath.
Smithpolly 3 weeks ago
Agnostic theism- believing there is a creator but knowing there is no proof
Agnostic atheism- believing there is not a creator but knowing there is no proof
Agnostic atheism is the way to go
twostepRMX 1 month ago
Gnosticism is stupid, nobody has absolute proof of anything. And there is no such thing as being only agnostic. You can claim agnostic thinking but you have to form an opinion on something. Simply claiming "oh I don't know" is ignorance and saying "you can't prove either side" is equivalent to not believing in a god, so you have four options
Gnostic theism- believing in a creator and claiming that it is 100% true and proven
Gnostic atheism- believing there is no creator and claiming it is 100
twostepRMX 1 month ago
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do u look to the sky,,,,do u look to the earth..who create them?? who create u? and give u eyes and ears and all?? allah (one god) who create us and we r here to worship allah.muslims believe in issa as a messenger of allah....issa is not a god..logically is there is a god die?christians said that issa died ..and they think that issa is a god.how could be?
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also u can search about from where we r born...u can write (Embryology in quran) and click search on you tube..
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we r muslims respect all religions and also respect who have no religion..we r the only religion that has a greaeting name...our greetings is(peace upon u)...u can just search about islam and see islam ethics,,,,,and also u can search about the most fastest spread religion..also u can search about the most greatest person on the history,,he is prophet mohamed..
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do u look to the sky,,,,do u look to the earth..who create them?? who create u? and give u eyes and ears and all?? allah (one god) who create us and we r here to worship allah.muslims believe in issa as a messenger of allah....issa is not a god..logically is there is a god die?christians said that issa died ..and they think that issa is a god.how could be?
MyIslamlove 1 month ago
Hilarious....I have watched alot of your videos now and everyone seems very specifically demonic in nature. You do know that Satan tempted Eve the same way right? By offering her something delicious to eat as a way to confirm that she was turning away from the Creator? The more you run away from Jesus, the more closely you will resemble the demonic activity of the Bible.
Laylow4now 1 month ago
@Laylow4now I can make up false shit and say it's true too. Anyone can. What makes the bible different?
AlbinosaurusR3X 1 month ago
@AlbinosaurusR3X ..I'm glad you asked! 1.) All of its prophecies have come true, and no other religion can even come close to claiming that. 2.) It explains the sum total of everything that we have discovered so far, for example the fact that the universe appears to be endless and far larger than ancient man could have comprehended, yet the Bible described it accurately. 3. ) There is an ingrained fractal pattern of all events in the Bible which is consistent from beginning to end.
Laylow4now 1 month ago
@Laylow4now It really was more of a rhetorical question, because there are glaring inconsistencies throughout the bible, and there are lots of imaginary beings/places that we have no evidence ever had, do, or will exist. I also don't believe in fulfillment of "prophecy" due to the fact that they tend to be vague (see; Nostradamus) and open to interpretation. That said, I think it is "possible" there is/are (a) god(s)--just highly unlikely due to lack of apparent evidence.
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DID U FINISH BABY?? NOW SUCK MY DICK AND MILK THE COW AFTER .
tymoor99 1 month ago
She is almost quoting Nick Cave... "I've already been born once I don't wanna be born again"
adrianchalice 1 month ago
@lease2coach
quote: Thomas Henry Huxley:
"It came into my head as suggestively antithetic to the "gnostic". (agnostic)
"When I reached intellectual maturity and began to ask myself whether I was an atheist, a theist, or a pantheist; a materialist or an idealist; Christian or a freethinker; I found that the more I learned and reflected, the less ready was the answer; until, at last, I came to the conclusion that I had neither art nor part with any of these denominations, except the last."
steverock85 1 month ago
@lease2coach
This person belives in god = 1 (true, he believes in god)
This person belives in god = 0 (false, he does not believe in god)
This person belives in god = undefined (There is no truth value)
According to Oxford English Dictionary you can claim your self to be non-theist. Defined simply as "A person who is not a theist"
If you feel any better, then I can call myself agnostic-non-theist. Is that okay by you?
steverock85 1 month ago
Cookies are infinitely more believable than god(s).
pbamma 2 months ago 9
What religion did she convert from?
macandease 2 months ago
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i believe in all religions who teach us how to be nice to good people and garden animals and forest plants .
my religion is DHARMA .
ukgreaterlondon 2 months ago
Pure agnostics do not fall into the category of atheism.
Just because some atheists invented a definition that says everybody who isn`t a theist is automatically an atheist doesn`t mean that it`s logical or true.
It just shows their hunger for power so please stand your mental ground if you`re an agnostic.
Agnostics stand on the level on knowledge/truth and truth can not be overlapped or touched by any theist or atheist belief because it`s not even on the same level.
Agnostics are not atheists!
KeskinTRS 2 months ago
@KeskinTRS not true. The definition has always simply been a lack of belief in God. Not neccesairly a disbelief.
MrNicMachiavelli 1 month ago
Agnosticism is just a rejection of gnostic claims. In other words, it's still a rejection of gnostic accounts of God(s) such as Shiva, Kratos, FSM, Jesus, Allah, Zeus, etc. but a suspension of judgment when it comes to deism/pandeism.
incomprehensible14 2 months ago
@incomprehensible14 You must be an Aggy as well, I take it?
Never have directly talked with a fellow Agnostic.
Lets just say that for me: I had experiences that I would define as "spiritual" that has me believing in some higher power.
So there is a clear distinction from atheist, obviously. But knowing the theist's track record of "getting it right"...
Lets just say I am far more inclined to side with science and atheists on this issue.
SmashtheCmachine 2 months ago
But I'll still take a cookie, if they're being offered! Just so long as they're fresh, and not 3 years old.
SmashtheCmachine 2 months ago
This vid was slightly insulting *shrugs*
Agnosticism isn't confusion about theism vs atheism.
It's a case of "IF god IS real" (highly doubtful), then who cares. Unless you directly speak with this so called "god", then all you are going on is hearsay (not heresy, although according to the church, it may as well be).
So potential speculations aside, at least for me, there is really little difference from atheism.
Just to note. No whiny confusion, here.
SmashtheCmachine 2 months ago
@SmashtheCmachine I concur. The only real confusion is with all these atheists trying to redefine atheism to include agnostics, babies and cattle, and then not giving an explanation as to why we should accept theit newer redefinition. Nontheist describes us all anyway. If you go to "evilbibleDOTcom" and click on "Definition of Atheism", there's a very interseting article on the subject.
incomprehensible14 2 months ago
@incomprehensible14 Oh man, you just said the magic word when you mentioned Evilbible, that site has been a fave for dealing with ornery christians in their eternal quest to "save my soul". I haven't really checked out the description for atheism, yet. But I will, now that you mention it.
SmashtheCmachine 2 months ago
@SmashtheCmachine When they bring up "Pascal's Fallacy", be sure to mention the GIANT biblical loop hole found in Exodus32: 14. You can't miss it. It's the one where Yaweh blatantly CHANGES HIS MIND about killing (and presumably banishing to hell) a bunch of people who stopped worshipping him after taking the advice of a mortal. If Moses can change Yaweh's mind about sending people to hell, why can't other humans do the same? Compare to 1Samuel15: 29 for additional loop hole fun:D
incomprehensible14 2 months ago
I am agnostic
Agnosticism2000 2 months ago
ZOMGitsCiss believes in the weakness of human.. God believes in the strength of humanity. That's the difference between atheists and Christians. Believe - action - result. Now all of you go feel pitty about yourselves.
Brulluhman 2 months ago
Maybe people should believe in Love. Believe - action - result! Or you can go harp about .. "oohh.. there's so much going wrong in my life".
Brulluhman 2 months ago
the dark side has just become so much brighter.
sonsofdon 2 months ago
sorry but where is that accent from??
MissWeirdo1992 3 months ago
I'm allergic to cookies ! :'(
Can I have other kind of compensations ? :-/
shadok0 3 months ago
Cookies!
Dracofangstudios 3 months ago
This is frikin awesome! Aside from the humor, there's a lot of good points made that most people will miss.
(I like cookies...)
CSXer 3 months ago
my reply to MRKAELIS,, FROM QURAN,,,,,,Sura 22:5 says "We created you out of dust, then out of sperm, then out of a leech-like clot, then from a morsel of flesh, partly formed and partly unformed ...
MyIslamlove 3 months ago
and another thing,,,,u didnt think who give u eyes and hands,,,,and all,,,,u didnt think who create the sun,,,and moon,,,,one god ,,,,allah send messengers like mohamed and issa and etccc ,,,to invite peoples to worship one god
MyIslamlove 3 months ago
If you think the amazing atheist is scary you should see his video on conspiracy theories. Can't remember the name, but the picture is of him wearing a tin foil hat.
zacthebold 3 months ago
Hahaha love it, definatly worth subscribing
bounce1845 3 months ago
I'm kinda scared of the Amazing Atheist, too. ;-D
JaneCochran 3 months ago
If something does not exist,what kind of evidence could be given-in principle- to show that it doesn't exist?As much as I respect Carl Sagan,I believe that absence of evidence IS evidence of absence.
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youneekk 3 months ago
agnostism in my *opinion* in is the most intelligient position to have/ on another note athiest as many videos shown like to troll just as much as christiands do the reall athiest are in *china* the ones in these other countrys that arnt mostly athiest are just as ignorrant as the christians who hound them *vise versa* heres some advice you wanna have a nice *conversation* with somone els who doesnt believe what you believe thats fine but a debate isnt fine this kinda topic only for the mature.
greco0994 3 months ago
@greco0994 The way you're talking suggests one can be an atheist OR an agnostic OR a theist/deist. Agnosticism deals with knowledge, (a)theism/deism deal with belief. Regardless of whether you're an agnostic you are also an atheist or theist/deist. Agnosticism is not a middle ground it deals with something completely different.
jakebowkett01 3 months ago
@greco0994 - i think there are certain aspects that atheists must be agnostic about eg the afterlife but we don't have to be happy about it, anyway atheism by definition is something your not, agnostic are just saying i don't know, i prefer hitchens antitheist position
human453 3 months ago
@angrykan,Correct my friend Correct......
MrMmafan111 3 months ago
Who gives a shit. Real atheists dont hound people the way christians do to non-believers, they just shut the fuck up. Believe it or not keeping your mouth shut speaks volumes about your intelligence.
AngryKhan 3 months ago 19
if God could be proven, then there would be no such thing as faith
MissLeanaFaith 3 months ago
@MissLeanaFaith Faith is a ridiculous concept. I'd rather have solid proof of something (ESPECIALLY when it comes to religion) before I go forming my entire life and opinions around that belief.
marisalorea 3 months ago
@marisalorea Jesus said that if you have faith just the size of a mustard seed, then you will see God working.
MissLeanaFaith 3 months ago
@MissLeanaFaith Well alrighty then. You go crazy with that xD
marisalorea 3 months ago
@MissLeanaFaith Umm. He said that if you have faith as a grain of mustard then his disciples would be able to perform works as he had and even greater. So. I need a mountain moved. Warm up that faith so we can spare the dynamite.
MrKaelis 3 months ago
@MrKaelis The Bible says not to tempt God. But if you really need a miracle from God, and you have faith, and it's in God's will, then God will make it happen.
MissLeanaFaith 3 months ago
@MissLeanaFaith Ok, so which is it. Are you going with the God of Isaac and Abraham or are you going with Jesus? Matthew 7:7 definitely quotes Christ as saying, "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." Again, Matthew 17:20 "If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you."
MrKaelis 3 months ago
@MissLeanaFaith And of course, Matthew 21:21-22 "Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done. And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive."
Seems clear to me that Jesus said nothing about seeing God working. He specifically said that you would be able to do those works yourself.
MrKaelis 3 months ago
@MrKaelis Jesus and God of Isaac and Abraham are the same person, in different forms. And Jesus said that through him we CAN do these things, if we actually need to and aren't just tempting God. You can't just get your facts from one part of the Bible, you have to look at the whole thing.
MissLeanaFaith 3 months ago
"Come to the DARK SIDE We have cookies" LOVE IT!!!!!!!
Diamond123682 3 months ago
I am told we can not prove or disprove a negative but we can lay waste to illogical absurd concepts with logic and reasoning. Gods are illogical and absurd.
residentatheist 3 months ago
"19. Do they not see the birds above them, spreading out their wings and folding them in? None upholds them except the Most Beneficent (Allah). Verily, He is the All-Seer of everything.
20. Who is he besides the Most Beneficent that can be an army to you to help you? The disbelievers are in nothing but delusion.
21. Who is he that can provide for you if He should withhold His provision? Nay, but they continue to be in pride, and (they) flee (from the truth)."
Al-Quran:67
emaan456 3 months ago
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LOL, i wonder if shed actually bang theo.... if so... I can get cris into bed.
My day just got a lot better.
DataSe7en 4 months ago
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Are you ready?
Have u lied? Have u stolen? Jesus said if you look at a women with lust you have committed adultery with here in your heart.
If God judge’s u by the Ten Commandments will u be innocent or guilty? Does this concern you? The Bible says despise the value of your eye compared to the value of your soul. would u sell your eye for a million dollars? And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. needgod.com
standingontruth1 4 months ago
JESUS WAS GAY. FOLLOW HIM? HELL NEVER!
ceoproperties 4 months ago
Love that accent.
Balthazzarr 4 months ago
do u like the taste of penis?
FigurativeDreams 4 months ago
Love the video but 1 minor correction in my view nature is perfect it is only imperfect if we have a negative view of death. since there is birth and death there is a perfect balance in nature and very little suffering.
alalal777 4 months ago
@alalal777 The truth is that perfection is a subjective concept with no real intrinsic value. You could say a car with its brakes cut doesn't function perfect, but the person who cut the brakes sure thinks it works perfectly for their purposes. There is no such thing as perfection.
JCGotTheLife 4 months ago
"most of the poetry written by people is crap, and don't even get me started with the music"
LOL it's so true
VitalSigns1 4 months ago
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u said no creator and no god ....................so who create u ??? who create these universe??/ one god create these universe (allah),,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,we are here on these life for worship one god and doing allah orders which invite us to do good things on our life help poor and hungary ,,,no racism ,,,,,,,love each others ,,,,,,,,,holy quran .....i ask u to read holy quran ,,,,
MyIslamlove 4 months ago
@MyIslamlove Umm.. if you were to point to my origins then you need look no further than my mother and father. See, I was conceived through the process of sexual reproduction, just as you were. I challenge you to find even one person in all the world who was created - meaning that their existence came from nothing at all and their genetic makeup is wholly independent of outside sources. If you believe in Allah strictly based on this notion of creation, then you have been blinded by ignorance.
MrKaelis 3 months ago
Respond to this video..FROM QURAn the answer( and We cause whom We will to rest in the wombs for an appointed term, then do We bring you out as babes.also by saying God "placed him as (a drop of) sperm (nutfah) in a place of rest, firmly fixed; then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood (alaqa); then out of that clot We made a (foetus) lump (mudghah), then We made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then We developed out of it another creature
MyIslamlove 3 months ago
@MrKaelis answer from quran( "We created you out of dust, then out of sperm, then out of a leech-like clot, then from a morsel of flesh, partly formed and partly unformed ... and We cause whom We will to rest in the wombs for an appointed term, then do We bring you out as babes
MyIslamlove 3 months ago
@MrKaelis also u wanna more write( Embryology in the Qur'an) on google or youtube,,,and click search,,,,,,,,,,,,,u will find more and more,,,,,hope u will be intersted
MyIslamlove 3 months ago
@MyIslamlove Sounds interesting, I will look into it. Thank you.
MrKaelis 3 months ago
@MrKaelis u r welcome ,,,,,and u r very gentle ......really i am very happy coz i talk to u......enjoy u time mr john
MyIslamlove 3 months ago
"COME TO THE DARK SIDE ... WE HAVE COOKIES!" LoL
mythmanjay 4 months ago 24
Lol I love the amazing atheist
weirdercize 4 months ago
Does anyone know why theologikos doesn't make videos anymore? I went to his channel and he has activity in the last month, but hasn't uploaded a video in like 43 years...lol
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And before any Atheists try to point out evidence. I have studied a lot of arguments with different theoretical basis for some time, Atheism presents a better case than Theism. That being said, all of Atheism ignores the fact that there is no beginning or end in sight. They can only look to the beginnings and ends of human existence, and that to me sounds like your head is stuck inside of a 3-D box. What existence is beyond our 3 dimensions? Most Atheists don't even ponder that, back to Theism.
DigitalSauce 4 months ago
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DigitalSauce 4 months ago
TJ is awesome :D
dAMMDb 4 months ago
i wanna kiss the *hell* out of her!
3492isaac 4 months ago
Atheist = an Agnostic with the bigot belief.
With Strong faith he/she knows the truth.
nadoeloiskat 4 months ago
definetely one of your funniest vids. and for sure you're even more than bangable btw
milanbaros555 4 months ago
cat?
87idk 4 months ago
Beware nice little women offering cookies!
spook79 5 months ago
Every man given explanation is inefficient and flawed. We just don't know enough, maybe we weren't meant to know. The hardest and yet the simplest thing to do is to accept uncertainty.
Atheism is an extreme materialistic stance that doesn't even attempt to answer the Metaphysics and chooses lacking over explanation.
There are many arguments for God/creative force/abstraction, dismissing those arguments makes you an atheist. Not claiming a position renders you an agnostic.
HomuncuIus 5 months ago
@HomuncuIus I have an explanation for metaphysical stuff: it's either something we can't explain yet, or they're bullshit. Come on, many things throughout history were seen as supernatural, but then came along some scientists who figured it out. Happens all the time.
ListenerOfShadows 4 months ago
@HomuncuIus And being fucking stupid apparently makes you Homunculus.
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@HomuncuIus Not claiming a position doesn't simply render you an agnostic, it's submitting to the fact that such an answer would be beyond any human comprehension. You can use all of the theoretical mathematics to prove where the universe is coming from and going to, but who is to say that's not all in a box? A program inside of God's computer... Who's to say God is even a comprehendible being? What is a being? These aren't questions either side of the spectrum are capable of answering.
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
I bought a t-shirt that says the same thing 2 months ago!!! "Come to the dark, we have cookies"
Kraized 5 months ago
I cant bolive u pathetic creatures watch this and then comment about cookies,stupid turned on kids.
IvanTheDespot 5 months ago
The guy with that stick for toilet was trying to speak figurativly.lol,right?
IvanTheDespot 5 months ago
Sold! You had me at chocolate cookies.
backwoodsninja 5 months ago
I definitely worship Xena the Warrior Princess XD
Songstryss 5 months ago
the ending sucks:)
90puf 5 months ago
Excellent presentation thank you so much
bossltr 5 months ago
you are wrong about negatives, they can be prove wrong, what you can't do is prove an undeterminated negative proposition als "god dont exist" but this problem can be solve prubing the origin of the religious ideas, if you can show a cause yo been prove the human origin of the "omnipotent god", also you can prove the inconsistent atributes of god idea whit the structure of reality :P (sorry.. my English is not so good)... also i love you.
argentascorpio 5 months ago
I love you...
argentascorpio 5 months ago
LMFAO god vs chocolate
5H4K490 5 months ago
Join the Brights (dbleudbleudbleu.brightshouse.comm) as they just know there is no magic/mysticism in the universe; far more fantastic and wondrous than the limited imagination of the religious.
dfree2008 5 months ago
those aren't cookies they look more like brownies
hil0o0o0 5 months ago
"Unbelievable."
LOL.
masterkl16 5 months ago
You atheists deliberately make simple things complicated. To believe in God all you need to do is STOP THINKING.
Hyperplaterine 5 months ago 40
@Hyperplaterine Best comment I've seen in a long time.
jupiterswan1 5 months ago
@Hyperplaterine You sneaky bastard.
iz2sicc 5 months ago
@Hyperplaterine sorry, I'm dependent on thought to complete my education so that I don't have to spend my life as a minimum wage slave
miss0interpret 4 months ago
I have had a mental illness for a long time. I first gave serious thought to killing myself at the age of 12. I have tried everyone thing I possibly can to get better. I have tried mediation. It helped for a little while but then I got worse. I tried medication that helped a little.
The only lasting positive affect anything has had on my life is simply going to church.
Although I do admit I probably wouldn't have gone if I was so desperate to get better
robertp1213 6 months ago
@robertp1213 you must fit in with all the christians... :/
Mrmilly911 5 months ago
lol her accent is horrible.......
and shes not funny
viva la russsiaaaiaaia
i know ur Romanian bitch
Zanthios 6 months ago
Non-nom-nom! These chocolate cookies look delicious! Are they filled with strawberry or such stuff?
Coyotefreak667 6 months ago
You really explained....for the ones who are will to listen!
Big like for the story and the characters :)
BlissfullyFloating 6 months ago
Romanian cookies are delicious!
(And the women, too!)
PalulukanMakto 6 months ago
agnostics are just pussy coward , who are just afraid that people are gonna get mad if they found out that they are athiests. you know that religious people are bully dont ya.
nicklaue 6 months ago
@nicklaue The definition of atheist is the same as the definition of agnostic. Two words for the same thing.
Problem?
PalulukanMakto 6 months ago
@nicklaue Science says "there's no evidence", not "there's no god". That's why I'm agnostic. I'm not afraid about nothing!
rgbpvh 6 months ago
@rgbpvh Indeed, it says there's no evidence, but that doesn't have to logically follow that you're an agnost then. I'm an antheist, but I don't claim to know that there's no god, I just don't believe in one. That's all.
KingofToxin 6 months ago
@KingofToxin Let me explain. Do you have evidence what happens after death? How could you know what happening, if you don't have evidence? No one back to life to tell to the world what happens. You're limited by theories
"What happens after death?"
"I don't know", is my answer.
Sorry my bad english...
rgbpvh 6 months ago
@rgbpvh well i m afraid of getting shot by my own friends . so no thanks .you see fear is a very poweful motivators. enjoy your freedom while you can.
nicklaue 6 months ago
@nicklaue I don't follow any dogma. I'm not afraid of what I don't know (hell, demons, gods, etc), I'm still skeptical about religions. My mind are free enough, to not only see the bad side of religion, as well as many do (especially atheists, like the girl in the video).
I fought judo for some years. Like other martial arts, his amazing philosophy is associated with religions. Can't you see the good side of religion?
sorry, i don't speak english fluently
rgbpvh 6 months ago
Swing pentru partea întunecată a ciocolată!
EspirituPoetico 6 months ago
Must... fight urge... to make... a dirty joke... about cookies... ... losing... the struggle... I'd choose your delicous cookie any day... FUCK! That was waaay too far, please thumbs down this comment
BlackAssassinBlade 6 months ago
@BlackAssassinBlade LOL
mindelo23 5 months ago
I was an agnostic at first, now I am an athiest <3 this vid xD
VampireMutilator 6 months ago
Jesus: Fish and bread
Hot and blond chick: choclate cookies...
COOKIES!!!!!!!!!1111one
tigerw222 6 months ago 2
"why should I be born again"
Love it.
Mattyb88ful 6 months ago
I think that it's useful to redefine god. Not as a being or entity, all knowing, loving, malevolent or anything at all.To push the idea that your life here and now should be adored, cherished and honored, instead of an invisible fear mongerer. Put energy into now and your future. Not into a pretend place you think you will go when you are dead.
GoddessAntares 6 months ago
your funny,,,,ill give you that,.
jaalul 6 months ago
I didn't know that romania got sexy girls
strike4may 6 months ago
@strike4may OOOOh you have no ideaa!. Romanian girls are the best. I've been in Italy , Austria, Hungary, and still, Romanian are the best.
similingjester 6 months ago
@strike4may They generally don't. She's one sweet exception.
Violka1987 6 months ago
You fucking rock my world.
scargdc 6 months ago
Her accent is so sexy.
TheShel10 7 months ago
I wish I was that cookie at 4:46
Kincajou 7 months ago 20
@Kincajou Hellz yeah... Thats the luckies cookie EVER!!!
sturfriedatheist 6 months ago
Hey! Interesting video. I am Agnostic Atheist, and happy about it :-)
sokal91 7 months ago
@sokal91 Agnostic Athiest? I'd really like to get my hands on the illiterate moron who came up with that phrase, because I'm starting to see it all over the internetz. It's this year's 'noone', only far more obnoxious.
So do you think at any point you'll graduate to Gnostic Athiesm? They probably have cool robes and meet in a building every Wednesday. And the non-Lord said, 'Remember the Hump Day, and keep it humpy'. Amen. (or I guess that should be 'men', right? See what I did there?)
eleutheromaniac 6 months ago
@eleutheromaniac Lol, u need help :-)
sokal91 6 months ago
@sokal91 against what seems like an entire generation of miseducated illiterates? hell yes. all the help i can get.
eleutheromaniac 6 months ago
@eleutheromaniac ridiculous...most atheists are agnostic atheists without even knowing it. some just choose to title themselves that way and others do not...no need to get upset over it.
PhilosoFighter2012 6 months ago
@PhilosoFighter2012 you can call yourself a blueberry panda if you like, but don't act like there's any logic behind it.
the phrase 'agnostic athiest' is gibberish. it's a basterdization both of the modern usage of those words as well as their etymological meaning. that's why i was making fun of the guy for being a 'gnostic athiest' because the phrase is just as idiotic as 'agnostic thiest'.
it's called doublespeak, brah. look it up.
eleutheromaniac 6 months ago
@eleutheromaniac agnostic means you don't think that the theory of a god can be proven or not...oh look i don't believe the theory of a god can be proven or not. atheist means you don't believe a god exists. oh look i don't believe a god exists. looks like I am an agnostic atheist. gnostic would mean you think it CAN be proven or unproven. so this guy is an atheist that thinks the theory of a god can be disproven. why do people have a hard time understanding this T.T
PhilosoFighter2012 6 months ago
@PhilosoFighter2012 cuz you're inventing your own definitions of words instead of using the actual ones? mebbe?
agnostic means you don't know. you can't say you don't know and then you don't believe. it doesn't work that way. belief is the basis for all knowledge: that's not semantics, it's not opinion, it is 2+2=4. saying you're 'agnostic athiest' is like saying you've built a house with just a roof, and no foundation. in other words, it's not only retarded but logically impossible.
eleutheromaniac 6 months ago
@eleutheromaniac sorry man. if you look it up you will find both of our definitions of agnostic. mine is correct and yours is one that developed over time due to the misunderstanding of the word. sorry...people that don't know are supposed to be called "undecided" but for some reason they keep labeling themselves as "agnostic" which is not right.
PhilosoFighter2012 6 months ago
@PhilosoFighter2012 'developed over time', um, no. my definition comes from both modern usage and etymology....and dictionaries, encyclopaedias and basic common sense.
look up prefixes and find 'a-'; then look up 'gnosis'. now put the two definitions together just like you learned on sesame street. and that's how we get the definition for agnostic. it's fun to learn new things right?
btw, LOL@'undecided'. wtf are they teaching you kids? I weep for the future.
eleutheromaniac 6 months ago
@eleutheromaniac ag·nos·tic/agˈnästik/
Noun: A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
first thing on google.
Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable.wiki
PhilosoFighter2012 6 months ago
@PhilosoFighter2012 "a person who BELIEVES nothing is known or can be known". did you catch that? were the CAPS large enough?
the belief is that it is unknown or unknowable, understand? You cannot state that you have a belief that something is unknowable and then have a belief that it exists or doesn't exist--or believe anything about it one way or another.
Again, BELIEF is the foundation; knowledge is the structure you build on top of it. No foundation, no structure.
eleutheromaniac 6 months ago
@eleutheromaniac yes yes you can. Let me lay it out VERY simply.
if someone asked me "Does a god exist?" I would say "I do not know." which would make me agnostic. If I said "No" or "Yes" that would make me gnostic. If someone asked me "Do you BELIEVE a god exists?" I would say "No I do not." which makes me an atheist. if I said "Yes I do." That would make me a theist. Understand?
PhilosoFighter2012 6 months ago
@PhilosoFighter2012 No, saying "I do not know" means you are ignorant, that is not the same as being Agnostic. Agnostic means you believe nothing is known or can be known...including its existence.
Gnostic theist is redundent, because all Gnostics are theists, just like all Catholics are theists. Would you say someone is a Catholic theist? Of course not, because that would be idiotic and redundent. Gnosticism refers to a sect or group within a larger religious construct.
eleutheromaniac 6 months ago
@PhilosoFighter2012 edit: "believe anything about it one way or another"... except that it is unknown or unknowable. That is where agnosticism stands on the issue of God. It is actually a very straight-forward, simplistic belief system that requires almost no interpretive skills...and yet....
eleutheromaniac 6 months ago
@eleutheromaniac Do you even know what gnostic means anyway? geez...Is the theory of a god provable or not? depending on how you answer you will be either gnostic or agnostic. I don't know what you are trying to say with this last comment but if you are still fuzzy on this look for the fightingathiest's video "you are not agnostic."
PhilosoFighter2012 6 months ago
@PhilosoFighter2012 'you don't know what I'm trying to say' wow. at this point i can't figure out of you're mildly retarded or heavily brainwashed. or maybe just trolling.
anyway, anything you need to know about agnosticism is in my previous comments. maybe try reading them? just an idea. or even wikipedia? google?
And yes, the existance of God can be proven, but I sure as hell ain't going down that road with you considering you can't even wrap your head around agnosticism lol.
eleutheromaniac 6 months ago
@eleutheromaniac yeah...i am starting to think you are the troll here. i just friggin handed you the definitions of agnosticism from Google and Wikipedia and you still don't get it. I am telling you I know this. Agnostic does not mean "I don't know." okay? If you think the existence of god can be proven then you are a gnostic theist.How does me trying to explain a definition that has already been made in the simplest terms possible make me brainwashed?why did you have to turn this into a fight
PhilosoFighter2012 6 months ago
@PhilosoFighter2012 i'm turning it 'into a fight' because i've shown pretty plainly that 2+2=4 and you continure to insist it equals 5.
You didn't use wikipedia or a dictionary. When you posted those definitions I actually wondered if you were conceding. Look at my response to that post again.
'gnostic theist' is redundent, and not necessarily true. It's like saying 'nihilist athiest': if you're a nihilist than you are an athiest, but not all athiests are nihilists.
eleutheromaniac 6 months ago
@eleutheromaniac Your analogy does not make sense. You can't add 2+2 unless you know what two is which you do not. Yes I did use those definitions directly from the top searches on the internet. I am not conceding....and wow man. "And yes, the existance of God can be proven" you say. That means you are gnostic. And it is not redundant at all it is merely clarifying. Some theists think the existence of god cannot be proven, and they are agnostic. Is every word I say wasted on you?
PhilosoFighter2012 6 months ago
Jesus would slap the %$#@% out of YokeUp.
TheIAMINU 7 months ago
Would be nice if you add subtitles to your video. I cannot understand your accent propperly on all words.
Ragatokk 7 months ago
really?! theologikos?!!
REALLY?!!!
digbystills1967 7 months ago
I am proudly agnostic--I do not claim a side--I am just here existing--like a snow flake--or a chocolate cookie. Plato was once asked who was the wisest Philosopher. He claimed Socrates as the man understood what he does not know. Even a slim to none chance is still a chance. As long as a chance exists I cannot truly go one way or the other--all I can do is live my life...
sepiasiren 7 months ago
cookies must have....chocolate cookies....*buys plane ticets to Rumania *
weworld2 7 months ago
You look exactly like Aly Michalka!!!
Kristinesownworld 7 months ago
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Kristinesownworld 7 months ago
There is a lot of ambiguity in theism and atheism, for us agnostics to understand. I think we all speak a different language (mentally) and there is no translation for it. I don't like the bible, or other theisms, but one has to respect the fact that it's powerful enough to make millions of people believe in it's positive influence it has in their lives. I don't idolize Atheist either, but I admire that they emerge from the mainstream to think differently. I like the best of both worlds.
brotherbrown1984 7 months ago
@brotherbrown1984 I concur
sepiasiren 7 months ago
Brilliant
darthringus 7 months ago