Kindred hospital los angeles abuse and neglect bed sores

[Al123456ize]

and also let me tell you something my grandpa was in better shape at northwestern in chicago and RIC (chicago) these placed were top of the line. then he got better with talking and moving out of bed then when he went to kindred it went down hill also they gave him meds and drugs he didnt even need. which caused him to be seeing things.

[Al123456ize]

also the place is very ghetto. they dont follow what the familes want and im reading these comments and my family is going to lawsuit this place we walked in and my grandpa was laying in his own shit. and the people dont even respond to the people when they push the nurses button like it takes 2 fucking hours the staff would rather be smoking new ports then helping the people. #realtalk. its funny how the state of ILL allows this kind of stuff to go on

[Al123456ize]

my grandpa is at kindred hospital in a very Latino neighborhood l(by shures high school) chicago. this place is very discusting and they dont even take care of my grandpa, my grandpa has colen cancer and he has to have a ostomy bag and he doesn't get it changed right. im only 15 and i know how to change it they put the damn thing upside down. and all the people there were in better shape BEFORE they went there. my grandpa is being moved out, its funny how they approve of this

[heavyjersey]

I'm sorry for your parents.

[heavyjersey]

As a nurse who does what I'm supposed to do regarding wound care, & hygiene with my pt...turning as well, I do not appreciate irate family members or uninformed family members who complain to me...the nurse regarding care. Its time consuming & is taking time away from my other pts. The person whom you should complain to is the MD. After all, nurses & cna's follow the dr's orders. Dr's prescribe protein packs to boost help improve wounds. A surgeon can debride that wound. Like I said,be informed.

[heavyjersey]

I am not disagreeing with you. Bed sores are not the fault of the pt or family. What I'm saying is that no matter what the staff does, if that pt is not up and moving, a bed sore will come anyway. No matter how much you clean and turn a pt, he will get bedsores. A low protein and albumin level also causes bedsores. I am a nurse. I am educated on this topic. More than you know. Yes I know there are situations, where the staff is not working as they should.

[haileyalexis709]

@heavyjersey People who are in bed all day and develop pressure sores do so because they are not turned properly, every two hours or cleaned when needed. I am sorry but I went through this with my mother and I also did rehab as a professional. You are the one who is seriously under educated - the staff is to blame.

[haileyalexis709]

@heavyjersey After I left the hospital one night someone did come in and turn my mother over and they placed her on her PEG tube. When I came in the next morning, I asked the nurse to come in and move her so that she was not laying on the tube. The tube was embedded into her skin. The nurse had to pick the tube out from under her skin which had grown over it. This developed into one of the worst bed sores that she had. It went to Stage 4 and got infected.

[haileyalexis709]

@heavyjersey Bed sores are not the fault of the family or the patient. However; when a person comes into the facilities, we as the patient's and we, as the patient's family members believe that the staff should treat the patients as they would want their own loved ones to be treated. That means bathing on a regular basis, repositioning every two hours and repositioning properly. If you can not provide that same type of quality care that you would want for your parents, then leave the career.

[heavyjersey]

If a patient is at Kindred, they are close to their last days. Kindred does not accept the average hospital patient. Families come in expecting miracles, when in fact the MD at the previous hospital hasn't informed them that their loved one has a high chance of not making it. Kindred receives all the patients the other hospitals & nursing homes don't want. And it does not take 10 mins to turn and clean a pt that's this sick. It can take an hour! These ppl have complex multiple illnesses.

[baysideful]

At Kindred Central it WAS THE NURSES!!!!

AND THE RESPITORY TECH..

GOD BLESS YOUR DAD AND YOU!

[baysideful]

My mom dided @ Kindred in Chicago...from sepsis...same as u're father! i am so sorry! my Mom's bedsore was so necrotic they could not measute it! same nurses same crap!! we shoud sue!!

[June575]

Man you don't know what you're talking about. I work at a hospital in Oregon and I see people like you all the time. You think hospitals are like what you see on TV, guess what they're not. You want your family to be treated with unlimited resources and have a private nurse around the clock. So unless you have millions of dollars and are willing to spend them all you're not going to get care like that, it's just a fact of life..and death. So get over yourself, no one tried to hurt your family.

[haileyalexis709]

Being short of resources is not the problem of the person who is trying to adovcate for their loved ones recovery. What does it take to turn a person over on a regular basis and to make sure their adult diaper is dry? 10 minutes at the most. Most of the time this is not the nurses doing this but the nurses aides and techs. Don't tell people that this is a resource problem. You deal with that at your union level.

[heavyjersey]

@haileyalexis709 it doesn't take 10mins to turn and clean a pt. When a person has a tube in their throat, stomach and arm, you have to be EXTREMELY careful when turning. Thus taking much more than 10 mins...how bout and hour. I'd love to see these complaining ppl attempt to try to turn and clean someone who is this sick.

[haileyalexis709]

@heavyjersey You are right about one thing. When a patient as a PEG tube or a nasogastric tube, you do have to be extremely careful in turning them. Extremely careful in not allowing them to be placed on the tubes, as well as not pulling on the tubes. I can not tell you how many times I saw the staff turn my mother and neglect to move the tubes out of the way so that she is not laying on them or place her knees/legs up against the railings, not give her a pillow to separate her calves.

[haileyalexis709]

In the meantime, it is about time the family members started to deal with staff members who tell them they will be there in a few minutes and then don't show up for hours while a patient lays in dirty sheets and dirty depends, lay on improperly placed feeding tube, with their legs and knees touching the rails.

[haileyalexis709]

What about the patients who are allowed to lay for long periods of time with their oxygen turned off by respiratory therapists who forget to come back after the nebulizer treatments are finished or by hospital staff who can't seem to get their noses out of the computers when patients need hands on care? All we are asking is that hospital administrators and staff treat the patients the same way that they would want their own loved ones or themselves to be treated. That is not asking too much.

[haileyalexis709]

I for one, hope that Tom Mabe and anyone else that has had trouble with hospitals and nursing homes get the justice they seek for their loved ones. Maybe when we start hitting these facilities in their financial pockets then the neglect will stop. After all, the baby boomer population is now coming of age where we are going to be needing more of these facilities and the education about how easily preventable pressure ulcers are is on the rise.

[Pebric]

@June575 I know this is 7 months back but your so fucken stupid, its obvious you never had a loved one dieing in front of you like many others did. My brother 9 months in bed, couldn't move, had many complications including stage 4 ulcers covering his entire buttocks, he was basically rotting away and 80 percent of the nursing staff never cleaned him right. Many times they left his bed pan with his waste under his bed, and times he poop on his bed cause they never showed up.

[Pebric]

@June575 Feces always went into his wounds when it happend and the nurses still didn't cleaned his wounds or redressed him right. I had 2 of the only good nurses in that floor showed me how to clean and redress my brothers wounds just so he dont have to wait (those 2 even criticize there own co-workers of how bad of a job they do). I did a hell of alot better job and i'm not a nurse. After what my bro and what many others go thrue you still say we need to get over ourselfs?? Fuck you man.

[heavyjersey]

@June575 I agree.



[haileyalexis709]

I am sorry that your father went through such horrendous care while trying to recover from his stroke. My mother went through the same problems when she had her stroke on Feb 9, 2008. However, she was overdosed on her blood pressure medication at on nursing facility, developed numerous stage four bedsores at one of the hospitals as well as Sepsis, MRSA, VRE, C-Fid and Klebsiella staph infections.