To cave people lacking evolution of their souls, but at least learned English and some Math (see? am not mentioning religion): Google these, and THINK for a change; especially, atheists.
God is a Mathematician;
The Fine Tuning of the Universe;
Evidence for the Fine Tuning of the Universe;
Evolution vs Design: Is the Universe a Cosmic Accident or Does it Display Intelligent Design?
If you graduate, try 'Allegory and Symbolism', then apply ALL to Sacred Texts, that you may see the Light
Acarya s is simply reaching reaching as far as she possibly can. It would seem she is so afraid of being wrong, that she blindly, and desperately reachesfor anything that might prove her right. Could it be she doubts her self?
@TheTone714 I'm going to say zeitgeist is full of more lies. I don't believe in the stories of the bible and I doubt any credible scholar would say there was ever a flood of biblical proportions during the time humans lived on this earth. There are, however, Christian scholars who do not read the bible as a factual text of stories that are 100% fact, but as stories written by men, trying to understand God. Zeitgeist is just lies about stories.
why are the zeitgeist anti-truthers so scared of people watching this video, and so angry that they have been proven wrong? zeitgeist is wrong, you lose, get over it. you can argue, whine, and cry all you like, peter joseph is a theif and a liar (you really think he isn't making any money off zeitgeist?) and his unsourced "theories" have been turned on their ear. go find a new leader to lie to you, one that makes up stores which are actually believable.
So you didn't know two of the most basic facts about the Egyptian calendar? Or simply not that placement of Horus' birth? Sure, the days got redistributed various times (but were always linked to births) but at the late time that they could have influenced Christianity, Horus was born then.
Sure the dates can be translated but that doesn't make the months and calendar the same. BTW, the Egyptians did have a year of 12 months of 30 days, with 5 additional days added after (but outside) the last month. Years began and ended in summer. Horus (actually, the elder Horus) was thought to have been born on the 2nd of these added days, corresponding to August 25 in Augustus' time (it wandered through our July from the 13th to the 2nd century BC).
12 months yes, but not a December still. Muslims have 12 months too. The Roman and Egpytian months cannot actually be equated.
Yes, I mistyped summer solistice once but before I wrote winter solistice. Just a typo. Dec25 for Horus is simply the translating of an Egyptian date into a Roman one but it is not earlier than the Roman conquest of Egypt. Anyway, the date is hardly relevant as it is simply the date chosen for the celebration of Christ's birth - not affecting his historicity.
The dates are correct (but so were mine) but he wrote late late in the 1st and early in the 2nd century, making him at best contemporary with the NT writers - unlikely that one copied the other. That early Christians weren't yet "bickering". You are wrong about what Christians "bickered" - the divinity of Jesus wasn't really a big issue. What it meant was (Modalism, Arianism etc.) or his humanity (Docetism).
But no, Plutarch, High Priest of Delphi, lived in the 2nd century, way after the canonical gospels were written. Your knowledge about what Christians were bickering (sordid bunch, they should just blindly belive, not debate!) is severely defective.
December is a Roman month and was used in Egypt only after the Roman conquest by, well, Romans. The Egyptian calendar was quite different. As I said Dec25 has the universal symbolism of summer solistice, open to anybody.
This is one of the weak spots of the refutation, that they do not address Dec25 as they see it as an evil Catholic innovation. But the thing is: Dec25 has an astronomical symbolism (winter solistice) open to all, pagans and Christians alike. Egyptians didn't have a December and Plutarch lived exactly when?
The Genesis flood is not the issue here (but for the record: I take it as a regional flood, not a global one).
Completely wrong is a big claim. Apart from a few anti-RCC jibes and some faulty arguments pitting the earliest possible dates for the bible and scepticism for extrabiblical stuff, this film here doesn't contain anything that's wrong. However, Zeitgesist makes false claims from the get-go and never stops. That it begins by sun=son really paints the picture of what is too come.
There is no human being capable of such things. And the worst ones when it comes to bias are always those that deny having one. Bias is a meaningless concept in that regard.
No, an unbiased comment would be a comment not coming from a certain view - and that's impossible for human beings. And I am not calling for unbiasedness but for dropping such pretenses. The comment here I see marked as spam is indeed spam as it gives lengthy proclamations under each part of this film. And what's middleground if one side is such a dishonest assembly of half-truths and lies as Zeitgeist? You don't have to believe in God in order to oppose Zeitgeist hogwash.
1. HOW can one base his beliefs on a product (scripture) of a time during which people had very low level of reasoning and understanding ability of the things around them (read... earth is flat land floating in water and hanging stars from an inverted bowl of sky)?
2. When people were lacking rational explanation to understand the things they see, doesn't it make sense that they believed in fabricated explanations (stories about Gods) manifested through their imagination merely based on their experiences/observations? Obviously, such stories would answer their questions about life and everything thus related but none of them were unpredictable revelations even to the people of their own time. They consisted of easy ways out for all the questions. MIRACLES.
3. Such stories (about miracles of Gods) merely serve to satisfy people's thirst for answers to many questions (some of which we yet have to know) until someone who looks at things in a different perspective (Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, etc) using contemporary technology and unbiased interpretation of observations, with more profound reasoning, for the rest of the world to see and understand. Let's gain knowledge through EXPERIMENTATION and OBSERVATION but not through irrelevant SCRIPTURES.
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This is crazy sh*t! I don't know what to think. But I do know that none of you have it all figured out or have the answers, so slow your roll a little bit. Fu*king crazy stuff, I'm freaking out! :o0
if you beleive in evolution which i bet you do since your bringing out
"science" well then you would know that before we evolved from apes, the apes evolved from a rat like speices which evolved from bacteria in water...prooving that a great flood would not have killed everything on earth theres new species of marine life discovered everyday...you try learning about science
To cave people lacking evolution of their souls, but at least learned English and some Math (see? am not mentioning religion): Google these, and THINK for a change; especially, atheists.
God is a Mathematician;
The Fine Tuning of the Universe;
Evidence for the Fine Tuning of the Universe;
Evolution vs Design: Is the Universe a Cosmic Accident or Does it Display Intelligent Design?
If you graduate, try 'Allegory and Symbolism', then apply ALL to Sacred Texts, that you may see the Light
debalazo 2 months ago
Acarya s is simply reaching reaching as far as she possibly can. It would seem she is so afraid of being wrong, that she blindly, and desperately reachesfor anything that might prove her right. Could it be she doubts her self?
guitarox420 8 months ago
Nice
guitarox420 8 months ago
let every word of god be true and EVERY man a liar
peacefulfatguy 1 year ago
I'm unable to view this vid after 7 minutes... What up with that? LOL
L0ve365 1 year ago
Which is filled with more lies, zeitgeist or the bible?
TheTone714 1 year ago
@TheTone714 I'm going to say zeitgeist is full of more lies. I don't believe in the stories of the bible and I doubt any credible scholar would say there was ever a flood of biblical proportions during the time humans lived on this earth. There are, however, Christian scholars who do not read the bible as a factual text of stories that are 100% fact, but as stories written by men, trying to understand God. Zeitgeist is just lies about stories.
ddpl365 6 months ago
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HALLELUYAH!!! YAHWEH!!! bless you, & keep you in YAHSHUA!!! Keep on fighting that GOOD FIGHT!!! MUCH LOVE. & APRECIATION!!!
ChrisnStarry 1 year ago
Judas was asked by Jesus to betray him, research the book of Judas
thetruthonthereal 1 year ago
@thetruthonthereal some consider judas as the truest friend Jesus had since he had to do what needed to be done
hailtotheking324 1 year ago
why are the zeitgeist anti-truthers so scared of people watching this video, and so angry that they have been proven wrong? zeitgeist is wrong, you lose, get over it. you can argue, whine, and cry all you like, peter joseph is a theif and a liar (you really think he isn't making any money off zeitgeist?) and his unsourced "theories" have been turned on their ear. go find a new leader to lie to you, one that makes up stores which are actually believable.
redlightdeath 1 year ago 2
So you didn't know two of the most basic facts about the Egyptian calendar? Or simply not that placement of Horus' birth? Sure, the days got redistributed various times (but were always linked to births) but at the late time that they could have influenced Christianity, Horus was born then.
mainsqueeze1977 2 years ago 7
Sure the dates can be translated but that doesn't make the months and calendar the same. BTW, the Egyptians did have a year of 12 months of 30 days, with 5 additional days added after (but outside) the last month. Years began and ended in summer. Horus (actually, the elder Horus) was thought to have been born on the 2nd of these added days, corresponding to August 25 in Augustus' time (it wandered through our July from the 13th to the 2nd century BC).
mainsqueeze1977 2 years ago 7
12 months yes, but not a December still. Muslims have 12 months too. The Roman and Egpytian months cannot actually be equated.
Yes, I mistyped summer solistice once but before I wrote winter solistice. Just a typo. Dec25 for Horus is simply the translating of an Egyptian date into a Roman one but it is not earlier than the Roman conquest of Egypt. Anyway, the date is hardly relevant as it is simply the date chosen for the celebration of Christ's birth - not affecting his historicity.
mainsqueeze1977 2 years ago 8
The dates are correct (but so were mine) but he wrote late late in the 1st and early in the 2nd century, making him at best contemporary with the NT writers - unlikely that one copied the other. That early Christians weren't yet "bickering". You are wrong about what Christians "bickered" - the divinity of Jesus wasn't really a big issue. What it meant was (Modalism, Arianism etc.) or his humanity (Docetism).
mainsqueeze1977 2 years ago 10
Thanks for the insults again.
But no, Plutarch, High Priest of Delphi, lived in the 2nd century, way after the canonical gospels were written. Your knowledge about what Christians were bickering (sordid bunch, they should just blindly belive, not debate!) is severely defective.
December is a Roman month and was used in Egypt only after the Roman conquest by, well, Romans. The Egyptian calendar was quite different. As I said Dec25 has the universal symbolism of summer solistice, open to anybody.
mainsqueeze1977 2 years ago 13
This is one of the weak spots of the refutation, that they do not address Dec25 as they see it as an evil Catholic innovation. But the thing is: Dec25 has an astronomical symbolism (winter solistice) open to all, pagans and Christians alike. Egyptians didn't have a December and Plutarch lived exactly when?
The Genesis flood is not the issue here (but for the record: I take it as a regional flood, not a global one).
mainsqueeze1977 2 years ago 8
Completely wrong is a big claim. Apart from a few anti-RCC jibes and some faulty arguments pitting the earliest possible dates for the bible and scepticism for extrabiblical stuff, this film here doesn't contain anything that's wrong. However, Zeitgesist makes false claims from the get-go and never stops. That it begins by sun=son really paints the picture of what is too come.
mainsqueeze1977 2 years ago 7
There is no human being capable of such things. And the worst ones when it comes to bias are always those that deny having one. Bias is a meaningless concept in that regard.
mainsqueeze1977 2 years ago 8
No, an unbiased comment would be a comment not coming from a certain view - and that's impossible for human beings. And I am not calling for unbiasedness but for dropping such pretenses. The comment here I see marked as spam is indeed spam as it gives lengthy proclamations under each part of this film. And what's middleground if one side is such a dishonest assembly of half-truths and lies as Zeitgeist? You don't have to believe in God in order to oppose Zeitgeist hogwash.
mainsqueeze1977 2 years ago 7
What exactly is an unbiased comment?
mainsqueeze1977 2 years ago 7
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1. HOW can one base his beliefs on a product (scripture) of a time during which people had very low level of reasoning and understanding ability of the things around them (read... earth is flat land floating in water and hanging stars from an inverted bowl of sky)?
azdwnldazdwnld 2 years ago
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2. When people were lacking rational explanation to understand the things they see, doesn't it make sense that they believed in fabricated explanations (stories about Gods) manifested through their imagination merely based on their experiences/observations? Obviously, such stories would answer their questions about life and everything thus related but none of them were unpredictable revelations even to the people of their own time. They consisted of easy ways out for all the questions. MIRACLES.
azdwnldazdwnld 2 years ago
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3. Such stories (about miracles of Gods) merely serve to satisfy people's thirst for answers to many questions (some of which we yet have to know) until someone who looks at things in a different perspective (Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, etc) using contemporary technology and unbiased interpretation of observations, with more profound reasoning, for the rest of the world to see and understand. Let's gain knowledge through EXPERIMENTATION and OBSERVATION but not through irrelevant SCRIPTURES.
azdwnldazdwnld 2 years ago
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This is crazy sh*t! I don't know what to think. But I do know that none of you have it all figured out or have the answers, so slow your roll a little bit. Fu*king crazy stuff, I'm freaking out! :o0
AnthonyGF 2 years ago
ever heard of fish?
walmartian555 2 years ago
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NAIVADA 2 years ago
if you beleive in evolution which i bet you do since your bringing out
"science" well then you would know that before we evolved from apes, the apes evolved from a rat like speices which evolved from bacteria in water...prooving that a great flood would not have killed everything on earth theres new species of marine life discovered everyday...you try learning about science
McClinchey09 2 years ago
actually theres a great deal of evidence to support massive flooding on the planet earth...
McClinchey09 2 years ago 5
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I'm not sure what you are trying to prove, but, actually, there are only 7 gifts of the holy spirit.
If you want to refute zeitgeist, you could at least try to make less false claims then there are in the actual movie you're debunking.
abysus96 2 years ago