great looking knife very sick looking you have a new subscrbier my friend. And kydex does not need a drainage whole thats a myth proved by gavkoo i also now work with kydex and know from experience. If the sheath is wet inside like any sheath just dry it out or the knife will rust
man i dont know what these people are talking about i would carry it for self defence can you imagene what it would do if you cut someone from the neck down to the crotch that would take the fight right out and you english that arent allowed to play with guns should really like it
eh this knife is total crap..a buddy of mine owns one and to be honest with you my cold steel masterr hunter in carbon 5 is much better its a shame you cant get carbon 5 blades anymore at any rate id stay far away from this knife unless you just want an over priced knife that looks cool
This nife has a nice Wharncliffe style( that'd be British, named after Lord Wharncliffe). Would make a great seld defense knife. Micheal Janich did a study that shows how wharncliffe style blades slash 3/4- 1" deeper than a regular style blade. Spear points and drop points actually push the flesh away with the curve in the blade.
@88Kamikaze69 Not useless at all, just because the shape is a little different does not mean that it cant be used for the same tasks any other knife could be used for.
@88Kamikaze69 AKA maybe a good EDC for someone who likes to carry fixed? Lots of uses for an edc.
Hunting and camp craft are not the only uses for a knife, matter of fact, for most knife users, at least in the states, a knife may never ever be used for camp craft or hunting.
I am sure that for someone that gets used to it it might work quite well for an edc in an urban environment but I still can't think of a single specific type of knife it would be as good as and deffinately not better than.
I can see this thing being a fairly good box cutter but like I mentioned already, even for that use it'd be so heavy by comparison to any other box cutter that it's simply inferior.
And... speaking to the point of the shape not being useful. In the last year, I've skinned and caped 3 dear, a mountain lion and a buffalo... and the design has worked fine for me. What surprised one of the guides I hunted with last was the detail you could get when capping around the face, due mostly to having such a prominent point. Food for thought..... the angle and tip orientation isn't far off from a utility blade probably the most used cutting instrument next to the machete.
Like I said, if you get used to it it'd work for most tasks, but compared to other designs it's simply inferior in performance.
Although, if that "uniqueness" factor is important enough for you personally to overlook that it'd be as good as any other blade seeing as personal preference is the most important thing.
To me personally this is a novelty item I'd love to own if I had all the other blades I want and could afford this one on top of that.
Ya... I never intended this to be chopping blade. I designed and built it to be a unique and unusual utility blade.... specifically built to be easily carried in a horizontal belt or vertical pack strap configuration. Personally, I carry one on my hunting pack. This has been my most popular design by far... and has spawned an XL fixed blade version, 2 different TAD gear exclusive variations, the size you see in the video of course, and most recently folder version.
You're right QuietBear, I just assumed because of the name they gave it...and the shape. To each his own. I liked the interview with the guy from treck knives on your site by the way.
looks really small. I mean the idea is to chop right? I Have a few knives that would do a much better job. So why would I want this thing? Don t get me wrong I thought Bill was badass in the movie with his big chopper. But this thing? I think not.
Thanks for the vid man! Really appreciate it...you definitely sold me on this one. I actually just spoke with Dave yesterday about making me a Bill the Butcher XL. He seems like a great guy. It will be a couple of months before I get a vid out on it though...I'm being difficult and holding out for the 1/4 inch blade stock he is getting in a month or so. I'm also gonna get the thicker size G10 handles he offers in black...should be awesome! Really nice how he has so many options to choose from!
You could just get a Titan Mega battery. which is suppose to last 4-6 hours. Just a suggestion. I'm going to buy the 510 Titan and some E-Liquid, then a month or so after get a mega battery.
QB, the main reason for the drainage hole, (as i do it anyway) is not to drain water but to allow the easy Washing out of the sheath to get dirt and sand and stuff out. without a hole any amount of rinsing makes it damn near impossible to get grit out, or dry it.. with a hole you can flush the sheath, and use a vacuum cleaner to SUCK dry the inside.
considering most drainage holes are needle sized on all my sheaths that come with one, I dont think that would help much in washing out the sheath. Besides, why not just fill it up and rinse it out like you would a glass?
Glasses dont have drainage holes and yet we can wash them out just fine...
the needle sized ones are not on handmade kydex sheats. those are normally from the stamping machine where it has a placeholder for manufacturing.. so I dont think they are designed as drainage. a glass does not have any nooks and crannies, and is not narrow and tight fitting. you can use a towel to dry a cup.. blow drying a kydex sheath without a good escape hole doesn't evaporate the water. by being able to channel air you can evaporate dry them after washing. also helps suck out the grit.
I should add that this is the reason I do it.. Who knows if other Sheath makers even consider such things as this. I know quality companies such as MashedCat sheaths take this into account, as well as blade spacing to prevent marring of the blades from caught up grit.
Hmmm.....It looks like what they do with thier fullsized blades when they snap during heat treating. Sorry my friend this is one of the few times that I don't feel the love. *shrugs* Oh well, to each thier own.
I like your video on it. You always give me something new to think about. I just don't care for this knife. Thats one of the wonderful things about knives and knife collecting though. There is always something out there for everyone. Keep up the great work on the videos though.
I think those thigns are called bull pivots, at least thats what peopel call them on strider knives...you need a spanner tool to adjust them or take them off or on...great review, cool knife!
I have seen the 940 many times, and I still dont believe that to be a true reverse tanto, because shape is what defines a style of point. A tanto has two cutting surfaces, either in reverse or American or traditional. Just because BM calls it that, doesnt mean it is that. Look at cold steel. Just because they say a knife is better than every knife out there does it make it that?
Otherwise, every clip point blade on the planet is a reverse tanto.
Yea, if you modified any knife you could make it into any style. But you just confirmed my point. If the Bill the Butcher knife had a sharpened swedge, then it would be a reverse tanto, now as it comes from the maker, it is just a clip point that looks unique.
As the 940 comes it is just a clip point that is different from others.
Way nice vid !! This blade, although 300 readies is in the 'ouch' !! category for me, I would have no qualms in parting with 300 for this knife, it has all sorts of appeal to me.
The website for KA is sweet! the Seraphim has 'buy me! ' all over it haha Thanks for the vid eh
--- >> I recall a pocket pry-bar, handy tool type thingamajig is out their on sale from a very sought after and respected knife maker, when asked where the inspiration came from on it's shape etc, he showed it to be the shape left on the cut away piece of steel from one of his knives which he then finishes off. Another example of wast to want-able eh.
Yeh man I agree, having seen his other work on the site, my YT is playing up and sending double or nothing etc, I made this observation in response to the comment below about it looking like what 'they' do when a knife breaks while heat treating etc..
You should look into some of his other designs, I think they have your name on them for sure, seems to be right up your alley, cept they are all fixed blades, but I have seen a few FBs sneak into your collection lately.
great looking knife very sick looking you have a new subscrbier my friend. And kydex does not need a drainage whole thats a myth proved by gavkoo i also now work with kydex and know from experience. If the sheath is wet inside like any sheath just dry it out or the knife will rust
wolfcookieo9 3 weeks ago
man i dont know what these people are talking about i would carry it for self defence can you imagene what it would do if you cut someone from the neck down to the crotch that would take the fight right out and you english that arent allowed to play with guns should really like it
synRdave 6 months ago
eh this knife is total crap..a buddy of mine owns one and to be honest with you my cold steel masterr hunter in carbon 5 is much better its a shame you cant get carbon 5 blades anymore at any rate id stay far away from this knife unless you just want an over priced knife that looks cool
m82wings 6 months ago
Lies...this knife sucks
76tammystanley 6 months ago
This nife has a nice Wharncliffe style( that'd be British, named after Lord Wharncliffe). Would make a great seld defense knife. Micheal Janich did a study that shows how wharncliffe style blades slash 3/4- 1" deeper than a regular style blade. Spear points and drop points actually push the flesh away with the curve in the blade.
saintrojo 1 year ago
Great knife from a great maker!
djsp2 1 year ago
So, basically a mostely useless but cool looking knife, nothing wrong with that mind, if you can afford it then why not, it looks cool after all.
88Kamikaze69 1 year ago
@88Kamikaze69 Not useless at all, just because the shape is a little different does not mean that it cant be used for the same tasks any other knife could be used for.
QuietBearr 1 year ago 2
@QuietBearr
Let's see.. it'd be so inferior to a drop point if used for skinning that by comparison it'd be useless.
For chopping the size itself would make it practically useless, the same goes for the battoning you Americans seem to like so much.
Using it for carving and comparing the design to a regular blade makes it cumbersome and practically useless (by comparison).
Basically the design only makes it good as a box cutter or fabric slicer but it's to big to be a good alternative for that.
88Kamikaze69 1 year ago
@88Kamikaze69 AKA maybe a good EDC for someone who likes to carry fixed? Lots of uses for an edc.
Hunting and camp craft are not the only uses for a knife, matter of fact, for most knife users, at least in the states, a knife may never ever be used for camp craft or hunting.
QuietBearr 1 year ago
@QuietBearr
I am sure that for someone that gets used to it it might work quite well for an edc in an urban environment but I still can't think of a single specific type of knife it would be as good as and deffinately not better than.
I can see this thing being a fairly good box cutter but like I mentioned already, even for that use it'd be so heavy by comparison to any other box cutter that it's simply inferior.
Cool looking and unique but that's about it..
88Kamikaze69 1 year ago
@88Kamikaze69 To the point of the usefullness, look below.
QuietBearr 1 year ago
@QuietBearr
And... speaking to the point of the shape not being useful. In the last year, I've skinned and caped 3 dear, a mountain lion and a buffalo... and the design has worked fine for me. What surprised one of the guides I hunted with last was the detail you could get when capping around the face, due mostly to having such a prominent point. Food for thought..... the angle and tip orientation isn't far off from a utility blade probably the most used cutting instrument next to the machete.
rydbom1 1 year ago
@rydbom1
Like I said, if you get used to it it'd work for most tasks, but compared to other designs it's simply inferior in performance.
Although, if that "uniqueness" factor is important enough for you personally to overlook that it'd be as good as any other blade seeing as personal preference is the most important thing.
To me personally this is a novelty item I'd love to own if I had all the other blades I want and could afford this one on top of that.
88Kamikaze69 1 year ago
@QuietBearr would be awesome for my painting job
CaliforniaXlivin 8 months ago
@88Kamikaze69
Ya... I never intended this to be chopping blade. I designed and built it to be a unique and unusual utility blade.... specifically built to be easily carried in a horizontal belt or vertical pack strap configuration. Personally, I carry one on my hunting pack. This has been my most popular design by far... and has spawned an XL fixed blade version, 2 different TAD gear exclusive variations, the size you see in the video of course, and most recently folder version.
rydbom1 1 year ago
You're right QuietBear, I just assumed because of the name they gave it...and the shape. To each his own. I liked the interview with the guy from treck knives on your site by the way.
indigosow 1 year ago
looks really small. I mean the idea is to chop right? I Have a few knives that would do a much better job. So why would I want this thing? Don t get me wrong I thought Bill was badass in the movie with his big chopper. But this thing? I think not.
indigosow 1 year ago
@indigosow I think you got the idea way wrong. No one ever said it was a chopper.
QuietBearr 1 year ago
It's look like a mini kitchenware. However, the casing and handle is awesome!
DT5236 1 year ago
It's called a spanner nut.
yesimaBright 1 year ago
lol, i shave with this knife, a waste- i know but its better than a mach
syborg32 1 year ago
Lol, I shave with this knife.
syborg32 1 year ago
Thanks for the vid man! Really appreciate it...you definitely sold me on this one. I actually just spoke with Dave yesterday about making me a Bill the Butcher XL. He seems like a great guy. It will be a couple of months before I get a vid out on it though...I'm being difficult and holding out for the 1/4 inch blade stock he is getting in a month or so. I'm also gonna get the thicker size G10 handles he offers in black...should be awesome! Really nice how he has so many options to choose from!
bankmind80 1 year ago
It is a tanto, it's not a tanto. It's nice to see how much you think about these things before hand LOL
DrunknShooter 2 years ago
lol yea man, lots of forethought.
QuietBearr 2 years ago
of course it would, anything with eylets does. It is a bit large and heavy, I would use the necker, I have a video of it soon to be uploaded.
QuietBearr 2 years ago
the bolts on the handle are bull pivots i believe. same thing strider uses.
nigahiga001010 2 years ago
I would just call that a cleaver style blade
hulkbuster1026 2 years ago
nice knife
MrSnub357 2 years ago
thanks man
QuietBearr 2 years ago
Hey is the slab drilled? Or have you not taken the handles off yet? I'm thinking it would look real nice cord wrapped..
MrSnub357 2 years ago
You mean is it skeletonised? And you mean the tang. Slab refers to the scales, not the knife.
I dont know, I dont think it is though.
QuietBearr 2 years ago
You could just get a Titan Mega battery. which is suppose to last 4-6 hours. Just a suggestion. I'm going to buy the 510 Titan and some E-Liquid, then a month or so after get a mega battery.
James2179109 2 years ago
I think you are on the wrong video man.
QuietBearr 2 years ago
Ooops, so rry about that, I was trying to post the on the 510 review.
James2179109 2 years ago
Nice! I want one!!!
I do dislike the marks and scratches that kydex will make on my blades though.
macjmillsx 2 years ago
Eh I dont mind, I use my blades.
QuietBearr 2 years ago
The bolts seem to be from a bicycle crankset, it's called (chain ring bolts).
marcooooo75 2 years ago
They may be used there, but I have seen them before on other knives, they are frequently used in knifemaking.
QuietBearr 2 years ago
Hey, someone took the tip of your knife! :) Just kidding. Nice review. Thanks!
eleftedg 2 years ago
lol yea it does kinda look like that
QuietBearr 2 years ago
Good review!
sraike 2 years ago
thanks man
QuietBearr 2 years ago
very cool knife, i love the blade design and all round design saying that,
great review as always bearr.
mike
WeaponCollector 2 years ago
thanks man it is pretty sweet looking
QuietBearr 2 years ago
real nice
webbcityglassman 2 years ago
thanks man
QuietBearr 2 years ago
I love the color and texture of the handle
hugo2x 2 years ago
Coyote Tan looks great on anything I think! And the texturing is freakin fantastic! Very grippy!
QuietBearr 2 years ago
check out that motherfuckin' turkey
eightwillwontcannot 2 years ago
happy thanksgiving
QuietBearr 2 years ago
QB, the main reason for the drainage hole, (as i do it anyway) is not to drain water but to allow the easy Washing out of the sheath to get dirt and sand and stuff out. without a hole any amount of rinsing makes it damn near impossible to get grit out, or dry it.. with a hole you can flush the sheath, and use a vacuum cleaner to SUCK dry the inside.
knivesandstuff 2 years ago
considering most drainage holes are needle sized on all my sheaths that come with one, I dont think that would help much in washing out the sheath. Besides, why not just fill it up and rinse it out like you would a glass?
Glasses dont have drainage holes and yet we can wash them out just fine...
QuietBearr 2 years ago
the needle sized ones are not on handmade kydex sheats. those are normally from the stamping machine where it has a placeholder for manufacturing.. so I dont think they are designed as drainage. a glass does not have any nooks and crannies, and is not narrow and tight fitting. you can use a towel to dry a cup.. blow drying a kydex sheath without a good escape hole doesn't evaporate the water. by being able to channel air you can evaporate dry them after washing. also helps suck out the grit.
knivesandstuff 2 years ago
I should add that this is the reason I do it.. Who knows if other Sheath makers even consider such things as this. I know quality companies such as MashedCat sheaths take this into account, as well as blade spacing to prevent marring of the blades from caught up grit.
knivesandstuff 2 years ago
Hmmm.....It looks like what they do with thier fullsized blades when they snap during heat treating. Sorry my friend this is one of the few times that I don't feel the love. *shrugs* Oh well, to each thier own.
senset 2 years ago
He is making a full sized version and a smaller version than this as well.
QuietBearr 2 years ago
I like your video on it. You always give me something new to think about. I just don't care for this knife. Thats one of the wonderful things about knives and knife collecting though. There is always something out there for everyone. Keep up the great work on the videos though.
senset 2 years ago
I think those thigns are called bull pivots, at least thats what peopel call them on strider knives...you need a spanner tool to adjust them or take them off or on...great review, cool knife!
cutlerylover 2 years ago
with these you just need a allen and a large flat head screwdriver.
QuietBearr 2 years ago
VERY cool knife!
like the materials and the design is just übercool
but i think that wud be the main reason for wanting to have it, the 'coolness factor'
not that it isnt useful or anything
also $300 is over my budget
nephildevil 2 years ago
Expensive knives hold their value! LOL and its nice to have nice things
QuietBearr 2 years ago
hehe true, knives last
unlike electronics or something
nephildevil 2 years ago
they verry well could hold there value, BUT one could die of old age waiting for a buyer......
mrbeligos 2 years ago
modified reverse tanto.
oTHEBLESSEDHELLRIDEo 2 years ago
I think it is more just a clip point, as there is no sharpened edge on the front.
QuietBearr 2 years ago
It doesn't need to be shape to be called a reverse tanto.Check out the BM 940.
oTHEBLESSEDHELLRIDEo 2 years ago
I have seen the 940 many times, and I still dont believe that to be a true reverse tanto, because shape is what defines a style of point. A tanto has two cutting surfaces, either in reverse or American or traditional. Just because BM calls it that, doesnt mean it is that. Look at cold steel. Just because they say a knife is better than every knife out there does it make it that?
Otherwise, every clip point blade on the planet is a reverse tanto.
QuietBearr 2 years ago
If you took the 940 and sharpened the upper false edge/swege whatever it is you'd have a reverse tanto.
oTHEBLESSEDHELLRIDEo 2 years ago
Yea, if you modified any knife you could make it into any style. But you just confirmed my point. If the Bill the Butcher knife had a sharpened swedge, then it would be a reverse tanto, now as it comes from the maker, it is just a clip point that looks unique.
As the 940 comes it is just a clip point that is different from others.
QuietBearr 2 years ago
IMO it's a reverse tanto that has a false edge.
For it to be "true" yes it would need to be sharp.But theres no doubt about it, that the spine of the 940 blade is of a tanto profile.
oTHEBLESSEDHELLRIDEo 2 years ago
Strider uses the same "bolt"
tigerseye094 2 years ago
so I hear
QuietBearr 2 years ago
Way nice vid !! This blade, although 300 readies is in the 'ouch' !! category for me, I would have no qualms in parting with 300 for this knife, it has all sorts of appeal to me.
The website for KA is sweet! the Seraphim has 'buy me! ' all over it haha Thanks for the vid eh
reasoning777 2 years ago
He does have a nice site man!
QuietBearr 2 years ago
--- >> I recall a pocket pry-bar, handy tool type thingamajig is out their on sale from a very sought after and respected knife maker, when asked where the inspiration came from on it's shape etc, he showed it to be the shape left on the cut away piece of steel from one of his knives which he then finishes off. Another example of wast to want-able eh.
reasoning777 2 years ago
Many knives are inspired that way, but this series of knives (there is a larger one and a neck knife design) where not designed that way.
It was designed intentionally like this, you can see that in his other blades as well, its just his style.
QuietBearr 2 years ago
Yeh man I agree, having seen his other work on the site, my YT is playing up and sending double or nothing etc, I made this observation in response to the comment below about it looking like what 'they' do when a knife breaks while heat treating etc..
reasoning777 2 years ago
the title says BIll the Bitcher, shouldn't it be Butcher?
manx1324 2 years ago 3
Bitcher is a typo M8, it is Butcher - see web site and the man said Butcher eh. Sick blade init !!
reasoning777 2 years ago
LOL yea I will fix that
QuietBearr 2 years ago
Don't know if the sheath needs the drainage but I bet it's good to keep that moisture away from the blade.
viewer1a 2 years ago
Yes it is, but does water drain out of sheaths without holes? We will find out.
QuietBearr 2 years ago
I'm not sure why but i like it a lot!
The details, the finish... it's just ALL right... $300? Man why do all knives i like have to be so expensive....
pingpongme 2 years ago 5
lol
QuietBearr 2 years ago
interesting knife, but $300...no thanks
mrbeligos 2 years ago 3
Thats a typo in the description, should be 285
QuietBearr 2 years ago
Wow... very cool knife! I'm liking that one a lot... and a lot to like, for sure!
Looking forward to seeing more vids on this one... Congrats on a great acquisition!
nycdave212 2 years ago
You should look into some of his other designs, I think they have your name on them for sure, seems to be right up your alley, cept they are all fixed blades, but I have seen a few FBs sneak into your collection lately.
QuietBearr 2 years ago
man, i got to get a decent job, there sooo many knives i want to buy, and this just made the list
firesotormlizard01 2 years ago
Dave makes a lot of really cool looking knives, that are all user knives. He is really innovative with the designs.
QuietBearr 2 years ago