i was doing 40 behind a lorry the other day, i nearly died when he stopped though, i locked up and so nearly hit it LOL, you have to concentrate so much doing this! tractors are the best for doing this
I caught a ride behind a Greyhound Bus the other day (top 'o class, so to speak -- they create a great vacuum behind them). You do have to pay careful attention to the brake lights though.
If its a car you have to be careful, because you need to get close to draft properly, and that's dangerous if they slow down. The best thing to do would be to find a big bus or truck and draft behind that with some distance :)
@zwiebel2004 You do realise that the poster included this comment in the description: 'It's called drafting, and yes, they were fined by the UCI.'
Anyone who has ever done road racing even reasonably competitively will know and agree that cheating is considered acceptable by the vast majority of road cyclists.
@jnavonoD Didn't see the comment, but keep in mind that many UCI officials will see riders drafting on their own team car coming back from a flat and will either turn a blind eye or give a token fine rather than a time penalty or DQ. It is against the "letter" of the rules to be drafted by your own team car after a flat, but it is widely known and accepted that it is fair play after a mechanical. The officials do not DQ riders because it is almost universally accepted by them as well.
@zwiebel2004 Fair enough, but if you understand principle, you will have to concede that you are admitting that cheating is acceptable. 'Principle' means an inevitable conclusion that once the principle is violated, it means all other forms of it become acceptable, even if only in theory. Whether accepted or not, it is still cheating. Just like the 'bottle push', the 'medical attention' push, etc, that we see plainly on TV with wry commentary from Ligget and Sherwen.
@jnavonoD In addition, some road cyclists do consider cheating to be acceptable, but it is hardly the vast majority. I am a pro rider who races in the US and Europe and the vast majority of the guys I know are fed up with both doping and riders cheating in other ways.
@zwiebel2004 I'm more of a funrider/vet cyclist. Nearly all the people I have raced with will think nothing of drafting cars, tandems, riders from other groups, etc. (or littering, my other pet hate). The fact that blind eyes are turned by officials and riders alike merely serves to confirm my point of view. With an ethos like that running through the sport, it is a slippery slope as to what is and what is not acceptable.
i draft now and then when im out just riding on on my commuter and some people get seriously confused by it. the most common reaction is that I, on my single speed mountain bike, cause a car to pull over as if I am attempting to overtake them causing me to brake and slow down (because im paying attention) and then pass the vehicle and then seconds later to have the SUV/Mini-Van pass me again!
its nice when someone knows whats up and you can draft at 50 kph with little effort.
I haven't read all the comments here, but the commissaires often ignore this kind of drafting if the riders have had an accident or a puncture etc. and are catching up with the action. Of course, if you do it all day they'll kick you out of the race or whack a fine on you
@brapboys503 Yeah, I hate to break it to you but Colavita is U.S. domestic squad. It seems like you have a lot of pent up hostility. I would have that checked into, immediately.
hey fuck head, dont label all europeans ' cheats', Lance Armstrong is american and is the biggest cheat going, 7 tour victories after cancer, the grand jury know exactly how much performance enhancing drugs he has used over the years and so does Floyd Landis. THATS WHY ARMSTRONG RETIRED BECAUSE HE KNOWS HE HAS BEEN CAUGHT, FACT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@brapboys503 just because he didnt admit it, dosnt mean his innocent...
I use synthetic cannabis to dodge drug tests at my work, Im sure its even easier for athletes with some money behind them to cheat the system... and with more motive then just to get a bit stoned
@PlebScrubber And I use piss scrubber from my local glass shop so I don't go to jail. I smoke regular weed. What's the point? None of that proves that the guy used ANY drugs.
@knarg basically you come in behind what ever vehicle your following (they do this in nascar and other racing sports) so the car in front is making all the wind hit travel over their car and if you are in close enough the wind maintains its course going over your car and whenever your ready you can turn out of the draft and launch past them if you want.
@racerxwannabe That is not the case. A rider may not be behind a car for more than 5 seconds without a fine. Often times you will see riders coming back through the cars and getting behind each once for just a few seconds. Drafting a car after a crash is not allowed by the UCI and you will be fined, as this team was fined during the ATOC. The most common way to catch back up after a flat or crash is to have a team mate stop with you and help you catch back up.
its fully legal in a race but theres often a time cap as to how long your alloud to draft.... was training the other day drafted a truck at 85kph was supper fun, its a mean buzz at that speed pedlings purly optional if you get a gig enough truck as it just sucks you along
OH I GET IT!!!! it must be a yank version of a keirin race, the car swings into the slow lane up the road which signifies to the riders to go for hell for the line,very interesting.
What's the problem? All cyclist do this kind of stuff.... It's more fairplay than letting someone trying to figure out to get back on their own after a flat tire or something etc.
I think its informally allowed where the leader or someone suffers a mechanical or crash. They can be paced back in to the Peleton. They have careful though, too much and it is cheating.
@whyurfacesofunny yea i had it today i was drafting after a vw end he almost crashed thru another guy and he puts his handbrake on (me almost flying into it) and coming out of his car and he jells son of a bitch! haha xp
I've been paced back to the bunch by a motorbike marshall after I had a mechanical in the neutralized zone. It was horrible- was about to puke up my muesli by the time I got there, and all I could taste or smell was diesel. Didn't get fines though- the comms tend to allow a bit of leeway for punctures, mechanicals etc.
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Does anyone know if the vehicles on the road during these tours are electric?
I know when I ride in traffic the exhaust fumes are enough to make me sick.
I could not imagine riding downwind from these team, support and officiating vehicles for much of the long distance events.
For the sake of health and the environment I would think they would mandate electric vehicles only - especially considering how the whole bike community is perceived as proactively "Green" these days.
I do that on the streets once in a while. I slmoat got flattened by a bus doing that. But damn, I was booking. Hats off to those guy, none the less, if only for having the balls to do that. They looked like they were going at least 35mph.
I don't know about 45-50. If you look at the yellow center lines, they're not passing by quickly enough for 45 mph. I would say probably close to 40 though. They're definitely haulin ass
@numbgti Its not only no air resistance, you actually get a push because a car does not have optimum aerodynamics. That creates whirls behind the car, giving some push.
@Mortybf but there is some air resistance, it's just a way smaller.. the car doesn't produce vacuum behind, just a low-pressure zone... and yes, a lot of turbulence.
@numbgti The air resistance does not drop to zero (e.g., ``no air resistance"), though it decreases quite a lot. Also the air packet created by the car acts to `push' the riders from behind (meters behind) along because of the scooped air.
Yeah this is now illegal in most sanctioned races!!! Good way to get disqualified!!! Better to work your way back and end a few mins back of the pelaton then miss the rest of the tour!!!
They had to have been caught (cheating) drafting. They passed neutral service car. They may have already been out of the CG for the day. Funny....and fun. I used to draft semi's when I was young and couldn't be killed
lol, I do this every day going to work.... let me tell you-- going 50-60 mph is scary when you start hitting road kill that the car in front of you straddled.
the guy in the car back seat was picking his nose
donnisl 2 weeks ago
@copyright5617 dude of course there isnt an actual vacuum.. the air does suck you in, thats what they mean. now go draft a car.
MrFuznubz 3 months ago
i was doing 40 behind a lorry the other day, i nearly died when he stopped though, i locked up and so nearly hit it LOL, you have to concentrate so much doing this! tractors are the best for doing this
MultiAirGunner 4 months ago 3
buses are the best to draft, you barely need to pedal.
AhilMohan 5 months ago 2
I caught a ride behind a Greyhound Bus the other day (top 'o class, so to speak -- they create a great vacuum behind them). You do have to pay careful attention to the brake lights though.
innismor11 6 months ago
niggers stealing my draft!
MediaMocker 6 months ago
If its a car you have to be careful, because you need to get close to draft properly, and that's dangerous if they slow down. The best thing to do would be to find a big bus or truck and draft behind that with some distance :)
UnitedCommunists 7 months ago
They're hauling it up that hill there!
moffat27 9 months ago
effing roadies cheat even when they're being filmed. Imagine what they get up to with the needles back at the hotel room.
Road cycling. A sport devoid of ethics.
jnavonoD 9 months ago
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PlebScrubber 9 months ago
@jnavonoD You realize they are 99% likely coming back from having a flat tire, during which drafting is allowed.
zwiebel2004 3 months ago
@zwiebel2004 You do realise that the poster included this comment in the description: 'It's called drafting, and yes, they were fined by the UCI.'
Anyone who has ever done road racing even reasonably competitively will know and agree that cheating is considered acceptable by the vast majority of road cyclists.
jnavonoD 3 months ago
@jnavonoD Didn't see the comment, but keep in mind that many UCI officials will see riders drafting on their own team car coming back from a flat and will either turn a blind eye or give a token fine rather than a time penalty or DQ. It is against the "letter" of the rules to be drafted by your own team car after a flat, but it is widely known and accepted that it is fair play after a mechanical. The officials do not DQ riders because it is almost universally accepted by them as well.
zwiebel2004 3 months ago
@zwiebel2004 Fair enough, but if you understand principle, you will have to concede that you are admitting that cheating is acceptable. 'Principle' means an inevitable conclusion that once the principle is violated, it means all other forms of it become acceptable, even if only in theory. Whether accepted or not, it is still cheating. Just like the 'bottle push', the 'medical attention' push, etc, that we see plainly on TV with wry commentary from Ligget and Sherwen.
jnavonoD 2 months ago
@jnavonoD In addition, some road cyclists do consider cheating to be acceptable, but it is hardly the vast majority. I am a pro rider who races in the US and Europe and the vast majority of the guys I know are fed up with both doping and riders cheating in other ways.
zwiebel2004 3 months ago
@zwiebel2004 I'm more of a funrider/vet cyclist. Nearly all the people I have raced with will think nothing of drafting cars, tandems, riders from other groups, etc. (or littering, my other pet hate). The fact that blind eyes are turned by officials and riders alike merely serves to confirm my point of view. With an ethos like that running through the sport, it is a slippery slope as to what is and what is not acceptable.
jnavonoD 2 months ago
i draft now and then when im out just riding on on my commuter and some people get seriously confused by it. the most common reaction is that I, on my single speed mountain bike, cause a car to pull over as if I am attempting to overtake them causing me to brake and slow down (because im paying attention) and then pass the vehicle and then seconds later to have the SUV/Mini-Van pass me again!
its nice when someone knows whats up and you can draft at 50 kph with little effort.
alajet 10 months ago
@alajet i see some cyclist on my ass, i hit the brakes
Its no different to a car who tail gates, its rude, back off
PlebScrubber 9 months ago
@PlebScrubber its hardly rude mate :L it just makes you faster and when you hit your brakes you will be the cunt who gives them a broken body!
96jjs 7 months ago
I haven't read all the comments here, but the commissaires often ignore this kind of drafting if the riders have had an accident or a puncture etc. and are catching up with the action. Of course, if you do it all day they'll kick you out of the race or whack a fine on you
Mr69Mel 11 months ago
if they swerve they're dead :D
DemonicDrone 11 months ago
Fuckin cyclists are such cheats.
jnavonoD 11 months ago
If you are going to cheat why not put your bike on the roof and ride in the back seat?!
WTF?!
MrHobiecat 1 year ago
Fucking cheater ass Europeans.
brapboys503 1 year ago
@brapboys503 Yeah, I hate to break it to you but Colavita is U.S. domestic squad. It seems like you have a lot of pent up hostility. I would have that checked into, immediately.
matkinson78 11 months ago 3
@matkinson78 I'm a fucking bar fighter, dude, of course I'm fucking hostile. I'll cave your head in with a 40 bottle, boy.
brapboys503 11 months ago
@brapboys503
i didnt know they sold 40oz bottles at bar's...
landonguyen 10 months ago
@landonguyen They do in Oregon.
brapboys503 10 months ago
@brapboys503
hey fuck head, dont label all europeans ' cheats', Lance Armstrong is american and is the biggest cheat going, 7 tour victories after cancer, the grand jury know exactly how much performance enhancing drugs he has used over the years and so does Floyd Landis. THATS WHY ARMSTRONG RETIRED BECAUSE HE KNOWS HE HAS BEEN CAUGHT, FACT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COULT66 10 months ago
@COULT66 You're a liar, just like most Europeans. Prove the fact that he used drugs son. Send me a media link of him admitting it.
brapboys503 10 months ago
@brapboys503 just because he didnt admit it, dosnt mean his innocent...
I use synthetic cannabis to dodge drug tests at my work, Im sure its even easier for athletes with some money behind them to cheat the system... and with more motive then just to get a bit stoned
PlebScrubber 9 months ago
@PlebScrubber And I use piss scrubber from my local glass shop so I don't go to jail. I smoke regular weed. What's the point? None of that proves that the guy used ANY drugs.
brapboys503 9 months ago
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kthorstrejka 10 months ago
@kthorstrejka Nope, Europeans. Prove otherwise, you biased pigdog.
brapboys503 10 months ago
its safe as long as your awake, i wonder would other teams hand in the video though or does it depend if there was an advantage?
talkto20john 1 year ago
DRAFTING, HOW DOES IT WORK
knarg 1 year ago
@knarg basically you come in behind what ever vehicle your following (they do this in nascar and other racing sports) so the car in front is making all the wind hit travel over their car and if you are in close enough the wind maintains its course going over your car and whenever your ready you can turn out of the draft and launch past them if you want.
dirtbiker2671 1 year ago
omg is that legal? That looks awesome!
lifeisgood070 1 year ago
how bout you stop the cheating shit and just ride
fec0002 1 year ago
A pothole can sure stop this in a hurry.
joynthis 1 year ago
illegal in a race
gentleonmymind1966 1 year ago
@gentleonmymind1966 negative...if you flat or crash...you're allowed a ride back onto the peleton...
racerxwannabe 1 year ago
@racerxwannabe ok so lets see this happen in le tour or the giro - its not allowed pure and simple
utrapzab 1 year ago
@utrapzab
It not allowed but it sometimes does happen in those big Grand Tours.
I saw Contador draft in a Grand Tour, but that was because he was caught in a crash.
Still though, it's not allowed.
As long as the judges don't see it.
dahgutone 1 year ago
@gentleonmymind1966 negative...if you flat or crash...unspoken law allows you to hitch a ride back onto the bunch...
racerxwannabe 1 year ago
@racerxwannabe I did not know! thanks
gentleonmymind1966 1 year ago
@racerxwannabe That is not the case. A rider may not be behind a car for more than 5 seconds without a fine. Often times you will see riders coming back through the cars and getting behind each once for just a few seconds. Drafting a car after a crash is not allowed by the UCI and you will be fined, as this team was fined during the ATOC. The most common way to catch back up after a flat or crash is to have a team mate stop with you and help you catch back up.
SaltyTank07 1 year ago
Cycling = the sport with the most sophisticated ways of cheating
t5e2 1 year ago 9
i call that cheating
pilantra2000 1 year ago
All there doing is cutting back fuel emmisions on there bike.. oh wait....
chrisbear08 1 year ago 26
its fully legal in a race but theres often a time cap as to how long your alloud to draft.... was training the other day drafted a truck at 85kph was supper fun, its a mean buzz at that speed pedlings purly optional if you get a gig enough truck as it just sucks you along
xcluzivrep 1 year ago
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whats a dnf? dirty nigger faggot?
Axmurdera3993 1 year ago
@Axmurdera3993 Did Not Finish
Anima87 1 year ago
OH I GET IT!!!! it must be a yank version of a keirin race, the car swings into the slow lane up the road which signifies to the riders to go for hell for the line,very interesting.
charlieb85 1 year ago
lol
sardo97 1 year ago
What's the problem? All cyclist do this kind of stuff.... It's more fairplay than letting someone trying to figure out to get back on their own after a flat tire or something etc.
1990cv 1 year ago 5
thats crazy but cool to
DanielJuno 2 years ago
that would be cheating and is not authorized (in europe)
BrusselsXX3 2 years ago 6
@BrusselsXX3
I think its informally allowed where the leader or someone suffers a mechanical or crash. They can be paced back in to the Peleton. They have careful though, too much and it is cheating.
HLaB75 1 year ago
@BrusselsXX3 NO have you ever seen a cycling race in europe?
hausken93 1 year ago
@hausken93 How about world's biggest cycling race" Le Tour de France" ?
Shibbynator013 1 year ago
drafting is so fun untill the car stops lol
whyurfacesofunny 2 years ago 155
@whyurfacesofunny Just ask Jan Ulrich!
MustangWW2 1 year ago
@whyurfacesofunny yea i had it today i was drafting after a vw end he almost crashed thru another guy and he puts his handbrake on (me almost flying into it) and coming out of his car and he jells son of a bitch! haha xp
CoDmasterboy 9 months ago
@whyurfacesofunny been there done that...
sj67s 6 months ago
haha
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mimineachille90 2 years ago
Drafting! very smart
DontScatter 2 years ago
I've been paced back to the bunch by a motorbike marshall after I had a mechanical in the neutralized zone. It was horrible- was about to puke up my muesli by the time I got there, and all I could taste or smell was diesel. Didn't get fines though- the comms tend to allow a bit of leeway for punctures, mechanicals etc.
Stoatsblood 2 years ago 3
I love the Big Sur, California terrain.
Brngr0fOwnage 2 years ago
lol
Pepponzy 2 years ago
Is'nt this illegal in bikeracing now a days..?
Drone696 2 years ago
read the description
the12thdiciple 2 years ago
Sorry, a bit to fast there. Im from Denmark, we have a lot of things going WRONG these days in the Sport.
Drone696 2 years ago
He he, I have drafted of cars going a little over thirty mph.... FUN FUN FUN
cyclenut 2 years ago
;p
ugala booogala
BLAKE24531 2 years ago
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Does anyone know if the vehicles on the road during these tours are electric?
I know when I ride in traffic the exhaust fumes are enough to make me sick.
I could not imagine riding downwind from these team, support and officiating vehicles for much of the long distance events.
For the sake of health and the environment I would think they would mandate electric vehicles only - especially considering how the whole bike community is perceived as proactively "Green" these days.
ChristopherPaul1646 2 years ago
they were practically kissing the vehicles rear window, if they were like 2 feet away from it then they would get fumes
bikercc 2 years ago
They aren't electric.
phill1mf 2 years ago
@ChristopherPaul1646 Thats a really good idea man. They should be
4B11T 2 years ago
Funny thing is at 24 sec you see a guy pull out from behind a car two cars ahead. He was doing the same thing, just not going as fast.
vulpalasar 2 years ago
up a hill
moe354sa 2 years ago
is that Legal??
chucholetsm8one 2 years ago
My thought exactly.
I do that on the streets once in a while. I slmoat got flattened by a bus doing that. But damn, I was booking. Hats off to those guy, none the less, if only for having the balls to do that. They looked like they were going at least 35mph.
Peace.
bobbygnosis 2 years ago
i would say 45-50mph
1993gandy 2 years ago
I don't know about 45-50. If you look at the yellow center lines, they're not passing by quickly enough for 45 mph. I would say probably close to 40 though. They're definitely haulin ass
masterexploder83 2 years ago
smloat?
phreezerburne 2 years ago
I was intending to type "almost" and kind of bungled it.
I'm a poor typist.
bobbygnosis 2 years ago
a wee bit of drafting for a few seconds to get back in the race if you fell of the back, the refs will look the other way often.
but drafting forever like that is illegal. they got fined for it.
Gambitgirl1974 2 years ago
No its not Legal
xTryPlanBx 2 years ago
No, it isn't!!!
KadaverKurt 2 years ago
@chucholetsm8one Lots of guys was disqualified on this is year giro for drafting cars and/or holding on motorbikes and team cars
D370n470r 1 year ago
okay?!?!?!
Sammy78girl 2 years ago
i dont get it lol
KANDAM808 2 years ago 2
its simple ...no air resictance = much faster speeds + much easier pedal...laws of physics...
numbgti 2 years ago 98
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mmmhmm mass flow...more biology though
Kishgofu 2 years ago
mmmm in greece we learn that in physics so.... same thing :P
numbgti 2 years ago 3
@numbgti ya but isnt that cheating in the large tours?
crazymonkey8888 1 year ago
@numbgti Its not only no air resistance, you actually get a push because a car does not have optimum aerodynamics. That creates whirls behind the car, giving some push.
Mortybf 9 months ago
@Mortybf but there is some air resistance, it's just a way smaller.. the car doesn't produce vacuum behind, just a low-pressure zone... and yes, a lot of turbulence.
Kokosiak1 9 months ago
@numbgti The air resistance does not drop to zero (e.g., ``no air resistance"), though it decreases quite a lot. Also the air packet created by the car acts to `push' the riders from behind (meters behind) along because of the scooped air.
UseAsDirected100 8 months ago
@numbgti thanks einstein.
schwalbstar 5 months ago 5
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
smartererer 3 years ago
*tsk tsk*
Chaotic8 3 years ago
Ahh, I've often wondered how riders who crash can make it back to the peloton, now I know thx.
boyd46 3 years ago
Yeah this is now illegal in most sanctioned races!!! Good way to get disqualified!!! Better to work your way back and end a few mins back of the pelaton then miss the rest of the tour!!!
hdwanab10 3 years ago 4
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mkcal17 2 years ago
lol riding in a "slip stream"
SpiritsoftheWolf 3 years ago
WTF
killerontherun0 3 years ago
this is cool thanks for posting
noticeeverything 3 years ago
Put your brakes on ;P
REXON64 3 years ago
jeje
jonag 3 years ago
Looks like TOC Monterey to San Luis Obispo
surfvivor 3 years ago
A mate of mine got towed by a police motorcyclist when he rode the Peace Race in the 60s. Got him back to the peloton.
Syd1940 3 years ago
Sweet !!
SSSSBBBB81 3 years ago
*lol* Great Video! Echt geil! :-D
FredyTheEagle 3 years ago
what race is it and when?
davidoffon 3 years ago
Its not cheating if you arnt caught. Which is 99.9% of the time!!
largefallingicicles 3 years ago 2
cheating IS cheating BUT that was cool riding!
KC8YOQ 3 years ago 3
no, it's cheating
Stimor 3 years ago
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stupid videoooo
chicos2000 4 years ago
LOl cheaters. that was there team car to i think.
caljuggler 4 years ago
unbuiguity?
buffskier03 4 years ago
They had to have been caught (cheating) drafting. They passed neutral service car. They may have already been out of the CG for the day. Funny....and fun. I used to draft semi's when I was young and couldn't be killed
oily666 4 years ago
lol, I do this every day going to work.... let me tell you-- going 50-60 mph is scary when you start hitting road kill that the car in front of you straddled.
sammyr112 4 years ago
50-60??
Whatever!
123coolhandluke123 3 years ago
downhill behind a semi-truck---for sure
sammyr112 3 years ago
they dont really care in Europe if they do it after they got puncture or crashed.
They might care if they were having trouble keeping up and they did it but no necesserily.
ItalianStallone89 4 years ago
I think thats so cool they go so fast
madtowncubs 5 years ago
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I dont get what is going on in this video, I guess I'll give it a bad rating due to its unbuiguity
intensefury 5 years ago
The riders are drafting their team car (illegal - get ding'd several minutes if caught), hence are catching back up with the pack without much effort
vladhed 5 years ago 2
We'll give you a bad rating for your ignorance
chanrobi 3 years ago 2
omg a bike race with real bikes this time
nevrknw 5 years ago