Tenebrae Lesson III (alter tonus) - Holy Saturday

[Tonus117]

Virtues are what make humans better than animals..that is it what does this have to do with the bible? I see no need for some god...

[nessunopassato]

@Tonus117 er, well since these Virtues were made aware to us through our God, I would say that is very important and needed.Much of which is due impart of the Bible. much of the current law in place, is connected to the Bible/Tora. it's like the law's ancestry in other words. besides,it's not about what you see all the time. your eyes aren't the same always and your brain does not register what they view all the time.our opinion and understanding changes with time.not always about what is 'seen'

[acerb45666555]

glorious rendition! and he chants well!

[Tonus117]

I write such things because I believe all of the religions including a "God" are fake. They all copy off one another, if you are truly looking for a god please look in a mirror you will see such a magnificent being...

[solesmes78]

Yes we are magnificent because we are made in the image and likeness of God.

[fridgeme]

it's not fake, stupid, if you want to see fake look in the mirror.

you think you see something but in fact you see NOTHING.

how dare you just dismiss all religions, why don't you dismiss yourself from it instead.

[Tonus117]

@fridgeme so your saying i am fake but supposedly we were made in the image of god, therefor you just said god is fake. I dismiss religions because i am tired of seeing people hoping for a rapture and savior I mean come on are you really so helpless you can't help your self anymore. God is your shepherd and your a foolish sheep only good for its wool. This is my last comment here I have had my say in this

[nessunopassato]

@Tonus117 you have not seen the entirety.you are tired of people waiting, very good.So is God.Within Revelations, it states very clearly; to act.For the grey, the middle, the nothing will be spat out of His mouth.As we are created in His Image, we must Trust in God give ourselves to Him, for it is then may the weak become strong-to give themselves away and work towards perfection, in Faith and Works.(nice job in calling me weak, since I stated all humans are weak(in sin).Grace = strength

[TheSalaming]

@Tonus117 SOMEDAY MY BROTHER..YOU WILL CALL ON GOD..SOMEDAY.. NOT THE PERSON ON THE MIRROR WHEN YOU COMB YOUR HAIR.

[rumpranger65]

@Tonus117 What I believe is that you have not even begun to ask yourself the most basic questions, the first concerning your own existence.

[nessunopassato]

@Tonus117 magnificent? how? in being unable to balance ourselves with nature? pollute the world? destroy ourselves due to sin to dive into depression, crime, war, etc.? magnificent is Grace within Humans. Balanced with nature, with ourselves, and with the world. Patient, Loving, Humble...these things are Magnificent.

[Tonus117]

@nessunopassato Alright here if god exists why would a being of such greatness, one that is full of love look down at us and simply watch people being murdered, raped, etc. and yes we get on our knees and simply say he loves us, he will fix it in heaven. Keep dreaming because you are weak. You need to think to yourself you have a savior up there because you cannot save yourself. Do not argue with this because you know in your heart this is all true.

[nessunopassato]

@Tonus117 ha ha ha! last I check God came to Earth and Sacrificed Himself so we may realize His Love/Grace.He also allowed us to have free will,to act on our own.make mistakes so that we may learn & love Him on our own.He has shown us the way to having a perfect life through the Commandments,Virtues,Jesus' Life,Prophets,Saints,etc.We have the ability to stop and regain ourselves in which is His Teaching.you have mistaken/confused His teachings with heresy.Shepherds lead,not dictate or abandon!

[Tonus117]

@nessunopassato haha last time i checked this was not scientifically proven!

[nessunopassato]

@Tonus117 which part? seven virtues?premarital sex/sexual activity at young age has been linked with with mental growth issues,lust destroys relationships through mental/physical means;having too much(gluttony)will harm the body(even kill)/weaken discipline as will selfishness;laziness adds threat to health/weakens ability to maintain active life&work ethic;pride&wrath can be connected to every single war ever fought;envy leads people to unsatisfactory lives.following virtues&"10 'C's" dont

[nessunopassato]

@nessunopassato virtues and 10 commandments, have all been noted to improve life in many different ways which help us stay away from previous posted issues to stay away from, which the Church Teaches (as does Judaism&Islam I believe).All by now have indirect studies to support our participation in.Jesus is a historical person, with teachings that even non-believers claim are helpful to everyday life.we don't need science to make every decision,and science can not make this one for us.

[nessunopassato]

@nessunopassato just as the use of science can not explain why we love another person, nor whom to love; what person will betray us or what person will be our best friends; whom to marry or not to marry; which person will become a president or a drug lord; to state one child deserves to live more than another; etc. there are many decisions in life that science just does not cover. to only use science to try and decide what is God, is arrogance or simply restricting.

[Tonus117]

my name keeps linking to religeous shit........WTF!

[MrZutra]

Why do you write such things?

[fridgeme]

tonus rhymes with anus.

[rossettarose]

So lovely that invites me to meditate on the Love of Jesus.