Tecnicamente è bravo...ma non ci mette "cuore".... Un cantante d'opera deve sapere anche recitare, "sentire" il personaggio...basta vedere come tiene la spada.
Too lyric and frail for this kind of role. The B's are strained, and his legato is lost under all the hurried transitions he has to make from note to note.
This is am amazing song, and personally, I love the war Pavarotti's voice completes it. I find it funny how he is the only one on stage with a "real" sword. But, I know many production companies do that.
E' scandaloso abbassare quest'aria per evitare di steccare il Do, come hanno fatto ripetutamente i vari Domingo e Pavarotti (ma non Corelli, Del Monaco o Bergonzi, a quel che mi risulta). Trovo piuttosto più onorevole limitarsi alla versione così detta "filologica" e non fare nessun acuto finale, ma almeno cantare l'aria in scala.
@michele84rome corelli also did transpose the cabaletta half tone down, almost all his performances, except the first in a row. So, the first performance, where critics were was sung in tone, but the rest were transposed down half a semitone.
Yes, someone else sang this better. Yes, someone completely different sang Ah si ben mio" better as well. Yes, yet another completely different person sang something else better than he also. But NO ONE, sang them ALL as consistently good as he did. *That's* why he was the second coming of Caruso, not because he could sing one song well, as many other voices before and after him have done, but because he could sing them all spectacularly.
@starstarstar42 Absolutely--you nailed it! As Pava said,"if you can sing what they put in front of you, then you are a real Tenor." Not a lyric, or a spinto, or a dramatic--but a REAL Tenor! Of course he didn't try to darken or "push the voice to fit the heaver roles, but instead, sang the heavier roles with his own lighter voice, dancing over the notes, and in my opinion, making the roles more interesting and colorful!
@crapfacejoe I disagree... Lanza was an amazing singer, but do you seriously consider him a good fit for Manrico? ... I have to admit I don't. Corelli is THE Manrico and that includes this particular aria. Although I never thought of Pavarotti as a good choice for Manrico, he really blows me away here. What a voice. Leaves you in awe of such great talent.
@IlBalendelsuoSorriso Lanza was not simply a "singer" as you so lightly put it. He was an operatic tenor who did not make a career out of opera. It's really not hard, listen to Pavarotti and Corelli's Di quell pira, then listen to Lanza's, it's by fat the best.
@crapfacejoe I know his rendition of this aria ... and I obviously don't see what you see, because I don't think of it as especially outstanding. Well sung, of course, but no Corelli, though. Lanza was simply a very talented singer and I'm well aware of his career, by the way. Anyway, it's personal taste. I don't have to understand it. Regards.
@halsamdu Certainly not in this repertoire ... Verdi in general is not made for tenors like Florez ... I love him in "I Puritani" and other Bel Canto repertoire, though ...
@keith46x what makes you say so? i think pavarotti is quite good in this ARIA...although being a lyric tenor, he is able to produce more dramatic sound for Verdi and Puccini...bravo on that!
The truly greatest tenor since Caruso.It is a shame we never got to hear Caruso live or recorded well. I heard Pavarotti live in Atlanta March 4, 1978, just him, a piano and 1500 amazed and adoring fans. Rest in Peace, Maestro Tenore Primo Assoluto!
I didn't know Pavarotti sang this kind of heavy repertoire, and I prefer to hear him sing bel canto, etc., but nonetheless, he is wonderful here. Gorgeous color, placement and easily produced. Fantastic technique combined with incredible talent. I know this aria is done in C and B, but it doesn't really matter which, since the most important thing is healthy, musical sound. A strained C sounds horrible and damages the voice, serving no purpose. It's prettier in B anyway; it's a little warmer.
I know that Trov is something of a park and bark opera, but I just noticed that in the middle of the aria Verdi let Piave add the line "I loved my mother before I loved you." Should the tenor just keep on singing, or should he just for a second spit out those lines dramatically to Leo, who has already had loads of trouble getting her man? And if I remember, this production of Trov at the Met was a flop for Volpe.
Great performance. Luciano Pavarotti sings this very difficult aria with so much ease, or even nonchalence. The voices of other great tenors sound strained wehn they sing this, his doesn't.
@TheLotusdragonfly Try Lauri Volpi, Mario Fillipeschi, Corelli. Pavarotti is singing this aria with his tecnique&he normally never strained, but he is really not suited for this role even though he was a great tenor.I think the better performances of this aria were made by tenors who did strain a little bit as it is a very dynamic spinto aria.Enjoy.
escuchen los graves que cadecen de claridad y los medios sin el suficiente cuerpo para convenserme de la trama de la opera ,, pavaroti es maravilloso en la boheme pero en esta definitivamente no
True, it is in B. But at this point on Pavarotti's career, he had lost some power on his tops, especially the high c, and his intonation wavered. So it was pretty common by the late 80's for him to sing the arias transposed with a B for the top. Of course, unless you're a musican, you probabaly wouldn't even recognize it. Obviously, the audience didn't as they clapped like he sung the high C. But then, modern audiences aren't as discriminating as their past counterparts.
@StefanoTenore Bonisolli dove lo lasciamo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mi dispiace ma sono un suo vero fan sfegatato.. Comunque io trovo che tutti e tre sono (ahimè stati) grandi in quest'opera.. Certo, Corelli aveva una voce straordinaria che veniva espressa maggiormente da questa aria!
Absolutely wonderful. The whole concert is fabulous ! What a powerful voice. No trichery, no falsetto. Only "full voice". Pavarotti had that sharp sword in the voice which made it bright and sunny.
Master...nessuno come lei...non aveva bisogno di piu voce....con la sua voce facciava tutto quello che voleva....fu e sará..il piu grande tenore dalla storia..."chicken's voice"?..jejeje..puói facciar lo´stesso...?
Per il Trovatore preferisco voci più potenti di Pavarotti, perchè la sua voce è bella per la dolcezza che ha, e si può esprimere meglio in altre opere. Ovviamente è eccellente pure in questa esibizione.
ma chi ha detto che Manrico deve essere un tenore drammatico? leggete Lauri Volpi e altri maestri di canto...
Pavarotti era tenore di grazia? (altra finzione pseudocritica del novecento verista), ma neanche nei suoi primi anni (cantava Bohème, Ballo, Puritani, Lombardi)
l'ho visto in Trovatore (Verona '78) e posso assicurare che aveva voce ampia e squillante ma anche un fraseggio vario e sfumato, come Verdi vuole
Manrico è un giovane di appena 17/18 anni non un energumeno
Realmente fue el ùltimo divo del Siglo XX..su voz..su presencia escénica....grandioso...el verle y al oir su voz nos dejaba sin respiraciòn....MARAVILLOSOOOOOO
QUESTO REPERTORIO CANTAVANO: Caruso,Marconi,Bonci,Tamagno,Escalais,Fleta,Masini,Fleta,Pertile ,eccetera............!!!! Pavarotti era ultimo vero tenore di grazia ,il repertorio di tenore drammatico non ere per la sua bellissima voce!!!!
The last time I heard this great man sing this aria, he did not take the repeat, and he was unable to sustain the high "C" for very long, either. I guess the pancreatic cancer had started to take its toll on him. But the world of opera may not see his like again for a very long time. BRAVO, signor!
Pavarotti is in another class from Domingo and Carreras. I never bought that big three gimmick.. Domingo's nasally voice doesn't do much justice for this role. Corelli as Manrico is a different story though. He is a great spinto tenor. Not Domingo...
@tonyhan0903 Your opinion is completely unvalid since you say Pavarotti was spinto. Nothing more unreal than that. First learn what Spinto tenor is and which kind of voice Pavarotti had.
Also, this caballetta is transposed down half a tone. Which is always the normal thing to do, the exception is to sing it in original key.
@tonyhan0903 Carreras is way way way above Domingo Domingo had more of a waaaa as apposed to nasally voice. Do your self a favor serch Carraras not only arias but songs , espc a concert from berlin just before he became sick.
I have always wondered what happened after this big singing when Man and the troops ran off to rescue Mama. between acts Luna must have whipped his ass, , because in the next act Man and Azu are in the tower and the army has vanished, but good old Ruiz is still around to guide Leo. The off stage battle event is very confusing.
Mark-Pava not suitable for this role? Well one can argue that the timbre of his voice is not spinto hence he's singing out of his fach. But that misses the fact that he sings it superbly. Get a clue man. SUpposedly, Mingo and Carreras have a more heavier timbre. They sucked in this role.
it seemed like he had to push himself pretty hard to get through it. Overall, he did a pretty good job, but this piece is best left to a true Italianate dramatic tenor like Corelli.
I always take my hat off to Pav of 60s&70s,thats the Pav for ages.But in roles like Manrico,he is far from his best,thats what I mean mate.And answering to your question regarding whos full package,for me there are quite a few names,as Manrico I would say Mario Del Monaco,Corelli, Bonisolli. All great tenors have their signature roles and Pavs were belcanto and lyric roles:Alfredo,Duke,Rodolfo ofc,Cavaradossi as well but nothing heavier.Beefed up voice isnt my idea of handling heavier roles
Dude! That b4 in the final cadence was perfect. The squillo is sublime. And he sung both syllable in addition. Do you even know about what you're talking? And he sings so superbly in Act III in a very demanding operatic role. You'd be hard pressed to see Mingo or Carreras singing this role so masterfully. Get a clue for heaven's sake!
you're right about Domingo and Carreras (they'd butcher this role), but if you hear Corelli or Bonisolli sing this, you'll see what I'm talking about.
Raige-You little 17 genius. I don't need to see them. I already do know all that and I even know people who have seen them live. What you see hear is a lyrico's interpretation of a spinto role and Pava sings this beautifully.
Your blurting things out about which you have no real life experience. You're trying to repeat encyclopedic knowledge, which a monkey can do if trained properly. Manrico is a spinto role by the way, requiring quite a bit of agility in addition to punch. A traditional tenore dramatico cannot do justice to this role. So get your facts straight.
I completely disagree with people who call him the full package. Not just wooden on stage, he SUCKED at emoting. His way of emoting was reduced to gasping, fake bawling or when all else fails, turning up the volume. Listening to 2 of his Vesti La Giubbas, the "crying" and gasping at the end made me want to toss the CD out the window. I agree with a lot of criticism flung at, say, Carreras, but his EMI Pagliacci TROUNCES P's, and anything else to do with emoting for that matter.
Pavarotti nearly never sobbed, Vesti la giubba was really the only aria ever he sobbed through, and it wasn't even in the singing, he did it at the end. You'd be hard pressed to find him sobbing in anything else, he did the occasional one at the very close of E lucevan le stelle, but that's about it.
He was a very good actor vocally, he used dynamics and shading in his phrasing to create effects.
If you already like PAVAROTTI check now THE 30 TENORS in my playlist SUPER TENOR ARIAS ( including CLAUDIO SOTELO performing ARIA DEL CIRUJANO as a world première for YOU TUBE ) and tell me which one you prefer
I feel sorry for all who have never heard him in a live performance.....The last act duet with Azucena was something I'll never forget from that performance.
I saw the Met production of Il Trovatore with Pav in 1988, I don't know if it was the same performance as this video, The 88 season opened with this show and I was at the second curtain. Pav was totally amazing, I was in the rear orchestra and he certainly wasn't stiff as a board although he wasn't Villazon running around like a little kid either. These videos are great to see and listen to, but the voice is even better in the house,
Pav was a great tenor,a great voice.But when it comes to stage presence,acting(wont comment his looks)he was really lacking in these abilities. Dont get me wrong I appreciate him, he was an incredible voice,full lyric tenor, and he was at his prime on opera stages in 60s&70s.However when assessing great operatic singers,commanding stage presence,dramatic talents&acting arent mentioned for nothing as abilities that matter along with the voice.Del Monaco,Corelli,Domingo were all alot better.
I disagree, tenors these days jump around the stage like it will make their voices more powerful. Pavarotti drew the attention to himself by resisting the temptation to overact, thus making him even more powerful and great of an actor. He was an animal.
Pav didnt resist his temptation to overact, he lacked acting ability.The thing is that being a great opera artist doesnt revolve only around singing,having stage presence,acting&dramatic abilities&possible good looks is as important as having the great voice,unless you only listen to the cd,then those characteristics dont matter.I prefer full package to just great voices cause I like to watch opera dvd's when I'm not in the theatre itself.Just cause he is most famous doesnt make him best ever.
Luciano had sun in his voice! He had aura we he sung! Best ever and forever!!!
MrsPavlovicka 3 weeks ago
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maferreira1984 1 month ago
ok è mezzo tono sotto... ma resta unico in questo ruolo!
ditantipalpiti 4 months ago
Tecnicamente è bravo...ma non ci mette "cuore".... Un cantante d'opera deve sapere anche recitare, "sentire" il personaggio...basta vedere come tiene la spada.
AriodanteITA 4 months ago 2
piango tutte le volte...........
PILOTHIGH 6 months ago 4
El cantante de opera más grande que jamás ha existido, ni Gayarre, ni Caruso, ni nadie igualan su maestría y genialidad.
beatlemaniac1978 6 months ago
Franco Corelli!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jcab2323 6 months ago
Nemorino
NinaMicheltorena1 6 months ago
I was on my mother's arms with only 2 years, while it was happening
mauriciomille 6 months ago 3
Não podemos esquecer que esta versão está meio tom abaixo, sem comentários, VIVA GIACOMELLI !
correasilvio2008 7 months ago
Ay ay ay... the sound of electronics.
AfroPoli 7 months ago
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Chacun dans son interpretation..Corelli et Pavarotti sont 2 geants du bel-canto. Pour moi les deux meilleurs interpretes de Manrico
pbarroso001 8 months ago
Chacun dans son interpretation..Corelli et Pavarotti sont 2 geants du bel-canto. Pour moi les deux meiulleurs interpretes de Manrico
pbarroso001 8 months ago
Chacun dans son interpretation..Corelli et Pavarotti sont 2 geants du bel-canto
pbarroso001 8 months ago
@pbarroso001 The gods
mauriciomille 6 months ago
Too lyric and frail for this kind of role. The B's are strained, and his legato is lost under all the hurried transitions he has to make from note to note.
jmiller05 8 months ago
This is am amazing song, and personally, I love the war Pavarotti's voice completes it. I find it funny how he is the only one on stage with a "real" sword. But, I know many production companies do that.
FreddeeG 9 months ago 2
I prefer Corelli on this one. But this is good nevertheless :)
prog112 9 months ago
Past his best, and not visually compelling, but still very very good.
We need more tenors of this calibre!
CaptFitzbattleaxe 11 months ago
wow what a voice
GoatAirJordanFTW 11 months ago
The master of the microphone...
Melomondo 11 months ago
@Melomondo
Bocelli? ^^
Honken 11 months ago
@Honken plz tell me the ^^ means ur being sarcastic lol
slicer317 9 months ago
@Honken plz tell me the ^^ means ur being sarcastic lol
oh sorry missed what he had said. I thought u were replying to the tenors of this caliber
slicer317 9 months ago
@slicer317
Haha, no problem! I just don't get the "microphone" line, makes absolutely no sense.
Honken 9 months ago
Luciano,chiedo venia,non sei MAI stato tra i miei favoriti,dimostra a ALAGNA,HEPPNER.LICITRA,CURA,cos'e' una corona PUNTATA.GRAZIE
isabella1954able 11 months ago
amazing!!!! amazing bravooooo!!!
StiloyMas 11 months ago 17
In his prime, he was a truly an amazing and charismatic talent.
sm0831tt 1 year ago 3
@sm0831tt Way past his prime ... But still a really good rendition. No Corelli though, but Manrico actually never was one of Pavs signature roles.
JericClage 8 months ago
perfekt
sylkla1 1 year ago
Merry Christmas dear Luciano, may your soul sings in this day very intensely with the angels in the heaven. I love you forever!
loveluciano1 1 year ago 2
@loveluciano1
We all love you forever, dearest Maestro!!!
GGefter1 11 months ago
E' scandaloso abbassare quest'aria per evitare di steccare il Do, come hanno fatto ripetutamente i vari Domingo e Pavarotti (ma non Corelli, Del Monaco o Bergonzi, a quel che mi risulta). Trovo piuttosto più onorevole limitarsi alla versione così detta "filologica" e non fare nessun acuto finale, ma almeno cantare l'aria in scala.
michele84rome 1 year ago
@michele84rome corelli also did transpose the cabaletta half tone down, almost all his performances, except the first in a row. So, the first performance, where critics were was sung in tone, but the rest were transposed down half a semitone.
gonzalordm 1 year ago
e mezzo tono sotto....
arienne3000 1 year ago
Poor. He is no Manrico.
AfroPoli 1 year ago
why Pavarotti has such a small voice? I can't understand:
see the link below:
watch?v=veTWqkltGLA&feature=related
Doooku 1 year ago
Yes, someone else sang this better. Yes, someone completely different sang Ah si ben mio" better as well. Yes, yet another completely different person sang something else better than he also. But NO ONE, sang them ALL as consistently good as he did. *That's* why he was the second coming of Caruso, not because he could sing one song well, as many other voices before and after him have done, but because he could sing them all spectacularly.
starstarstar42 1 year ago
@starstarstar42
Who said Pavarotti was the second to Caruso?
Doooku 1 year ago
@starstarstar42 Absolutely--you nailed it! As Pava said,"if you can sing what they put in front of you, then you are a real Tenor." Not a lyric, or a spinto, or a dramatic--but a REAL Tenor! Of course he didn't try to darken or "push the voice to fit the heaver roles, but instead, sang the heavier roles with his own lighter voice, dancing over the notes, and in my opinion, making the roles more interesting and colorful!
appeace1 2 months ago 3
I loved Luciano, .. BUT: .. Franco Corelli OWNS this aria!!
dubonetducon 1 year ago 27
@dubonetducon i actually like pavarotti better in Il trovatore
Steentun 2 months ago
@dubonetducon Correction, Lanza owns this aria.
crapfacejoe 1 month ago
@crapfacejoe I disagree... Lanza was an amazing singer, but do you seriously consider him a good fit for Manrico? ... I have to admit I don't. Corelli is THE Manrico and that includes this particular aria. Although I never thought of Pavarotti as a good choice for Manrico, he really blows me away here. What a voice. Leaves you in awe of such great talent.
IlBalendelsuoSorriso 2 weeks ago
@IlBalendelsuoSorriso Lanza was not simply a "singer" as you so lightly put it. He was an operatic tenor who did not make a career out of opera. It's really not hard, listen to Pavarotti and Corelli's Di quell pira, then listen to Lanza's, it's by fat the best.
crapfacejoe 2 weeks ago
@crapfacejoe I know his rendition of this aria ... and I obviously don't see what you see, because I don't think of it as especially outstanding. Well sung, of course, but no Corelli, though. Lanza was simply a very talented singer and I'm well aware of his career, by the way. Anyway, it's personal taste. I don't have to understand it. Regards.
IlBalendelsuoSorriso 2 weeks ago
@IlBalendelsuoSorriso There's such a thing as bad taste and you got it.
crapfacejoe 2 weeks ago
The best is Florez
halsamdu 1 year ago
@halsamdu are you joking?
rumpwrestler 1 year ago
@halsamdu Certainly not in this repertoire ... Verdi in general is not made for tenors like Florez ... I love him in "I Puritani" and other Bel Canto repertoire, though ...
JericClage 1 year ago
Florez is nowhere approaching the universe of a Verdi tenor...he barely fills a house over the orchestra in Donizetti and Rossini.
psalmtone2008 1 year ago
@psalmtone2008 Agreed. Florez would never be considered a Verdi tenor. I don't know how anyone could think of his as one.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
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matt7178 1 year ago
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@halsamdu Florez?!?!?!?!?! o_O o_O o_O o_O CORELLI!!! GIACOMINI!!! BONISOLLI!! DEL MONACO!!! COSSUTTA!!!!
matt7178 1 year ago
@halsamdu Florez?!?!?! o_O o_O o_O o_O GIACOMINI!!! BONISOLLI!!! DEL MONACO!! CORELLI!!! COSSUTTA!!
matt7178 1 year ago
@matt7178 Flores e il megliore dal mondo
acitipo 1 year ago
@acitipo Nel vostro mondo...
nichtsleezy 1 year ago
@matt7178 Flores e il megliore dal mondo in Donizetti, Bellini, Rossini oggi, il pasato e pasato.
acitipo 1 year ago
@acitipo ok, nel repertorio leggero sono d'accordo. Ma non per Verdi, e soprattutto non per il Trovatore. Assolutamente no
matt7178 1 year ago
@acitipo anche se, sempre nel repertorio leggero, migliori di Florez ce ne sono
matt7178 1 year ago
bonisolli is better singing this siong
keith46x 1 year ago
@keith46x what makes you say so? i think pavarotti is quite good in this ARIA...although being a lyric tenor, he is able to produce more dramatic sound for Verdi and Puccini...bravo on that!
pianist91tenor 1 year ago
@pianist91tenor hi i understand what you say i just think that pav was overrated
keith46x 1 year ago
Smettiamola di dire che bonisolli era meglio! secondo me gridava un po troppo
varaldoampelio34 1 year ago
@StefanoTenore no,pero' bonisolli in questa aria e' insuperabile
ivanfrancesco 1 year ago
@maktopolis. Your talking shit. Pavarotti was the best tenor ever. His high C is unbelivable
ThePfnerch 1 year ago
@maktopolis
ThePfnerch 1 year ago
bonisolli lo supera in questa aria
ivanfrancesco 1 year ago
Di quella pira l'orrendo foco
Tutte le fibre m'arse avvampò!...
Empi spegnetela, o ch'io tra poco
Col sangue vostro la spegnerò...
Era già figlio prima d'amarti
Non può frenarmi il tuo martir.
Madre infelice, corro a salvarti,
O teco almeno corro a morir!
grrrjenaimarre 1 year ago
The truly greatest tenor since Caruso.It is a shame we never got to hear Caruso live or recorded well. I heard Pavarotti live in Atlanta March 4, 1978, just him, a piano and 1500 amazed and adoring fans. Rest in Peace, Maestro Tenore Primo Assoluto!
TheMmesser 1 year ago
Exelente "A´larmiiiiiiiii" !!!!
francorelli 1 year ago
R.I.P Maestro
DarKool81 1 year ago
GREAT SINGER! awful actor
Buzaglod 1 year ago
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bodiloto 1 year ago
I didn't know Pavarotti sang this kind of heavy repertoire, and I prefer to hear him sing bel canto, etc., but nonetheless, he is wonderful here. Gorgeous color, placement and easily produced. Fantastic technique combined with incredible talent. I know this aria is done in C and B, but it doesn't really matter which, since the most important thing is healthy, musical sound. A strained C sounds horrible and damages the voice, serving no purpose. It's prettier in B anyway; it's a little warmer.
sopranosd 1 year ago
Luciano was great in his class...he was long-winded,but he did not have a big voice.
mactopolis 1 year ago
Fuoriclasse
plzrsr 1 year ago
in a class all by himself, nobody even comes close, his emotional appeal when he sings is undeniable
joergsattler 1 year ago
...ONORE AL MAESTRO.....GRAZIE BIG LUCIANO!
messalinico 1 year ago 2
great Pavarotti, but I still prefer Domingo :)
meYry12thofMay87 1 year ago
This is one of my many favorites. He is so powerful here, so fantastic!!
But in my opinion, Pavarotti is always fantastic! I dearly love him.
marcherst 1 year ago
This is out of repertoire for Pavarotti, but he does a decent job.
musicg1978 1 year ago
I know that Trov is something of a park and bark opera, but I just noticed that in the middle of the aria Verdi let Piave add the line "I loved my mother before I loved you." Should the tenor just keep on singing, or should he just for a second spit out those lines dramatically to Leo, who has already had loads of trouble getting her man? And if I remember, this production of Trov at the Met was a flop for Volpe.
Gydinglight12 1 year ago
merci
joehigashi82 1 year ago 2
I can hit that B. But I don't any power up there.
egrewing74 1 year ago
Great performance. Luciano Pavarotti sings this very difficult aria with so much ease, or even nonchalence. The voices of other great tenors sound strained wehn they sing this, his doesn't.
TheLotusdragonfly 1 year ago
@TheLotusdragonfly Try Lauri Volpi, Mario Fillipeschi, Corelli. Pavarotti is singing this aria with his tecnique&he normally never strained, but he is really not suited for this role even though he was a great tenor.I think the better performances of this aria were made by tenors who did strain a little bit as it is a very dynamic spinto aria.Enjoy.
sugarbist 4 months ago
la potenza
ann0zero 1 year ago
This song was originally written with the "G" So anything sung above that is a Bonus!! so why argue.
vtube007 1 year ago
Proper or not proper he sounds better then others with proper voice.
castorp278 1 year ago
escuchen los graves que cadecen de claridad y los medios sin el suficiente cuerpo para convenserme de la trama de la opera ,, pavaroti es maravilloso en la boheme pero en esta definitivamente no
2591740 1 year ago
no me gusto su voz para esta area , prefiero a corelli y domingo definitivamente
2591740 1 year ago 2
@2591740 Aria, y no area, una cosa es gusto y otra cosa es tecnica perfecta timbre unico.
acitipo 1 year ago
sempre il numero 1
Mtenor89 2 years ago
the whole cabaletta is here in B while it should be in C
unfortunately even Pavarotti does this
xav71176 2 years ago
@xav71176: Well, there are two possibilities, either you or Pavarottii is wrong. Let me think about it for a second.....
verso69 2 years ago
True, it is in B. But at this point on Pavarotti's career, he had lost some power on his tops, especially the high c, and his intonation wavered. So it was pretty common by the late 80's for him to sing the arias transposed with a B for the top. Of course, unless you're a musican, you probabaly wouldn't even recognize it. Obviously, the audience didn't as they clapped like he sung the high C. But then, modern audiences aren't as discriminating as their past counterparts.
pvssymaster 1 year ago
quite a criticism coming from someone with the SN "pussymaster" hahah
auhosj877 1 year ago
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Shotgun93Steve 2 years ago
The final note is a high C or a high B??
rafe234 2 years ago
He sings a high B in this recording.
Aleksei5 2 years ago
thanks a lot
rafe234 2 years ago
written is on the high C
serafitta 2 years ago
it is B
tranquildanger 2 years ago
Still had it ... dayum.
CatalinaDM56 2 years ago
so excellent
miamicapriata 2 years ago 2
ESAGERATO!!! GRANDE MAESTRO.....
Artistaff87 2 years ago
I just arrived home from seeing this opera at the Liceu of Barcelona. Great ^^
anormaluser 2 years ago
I love his toupee (SP)
CatalinaDM56 2 years ago
@StefanoTenore Bonisolli dove lo lasciamo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mi dispiace ma sono un suo vero fan sfegatato.. Comunque io trovo che tutti e tre sono (ahimè stati) grandi in quest'opera.. Certo, Corelli aveva una voce straordinaria che veniva espressa maggiormente da questa aria!
danimartins85 2 years ago
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Mi dispiace ma anche qui Luciano è il n1
Corelli compreso
paipaipai99 2 years ago
Rest in peace
iateliver 2 years ago 3
Tanto di cappello a Pavarotti ma la sua esecuzione SCOMPARE davanti a quella di Franco Corelli, un vero gigante in quest'opera.
MARKLYN56 2 years ago
si il trovatore ha bisogno di voci più potenti
enrica200 2 years ago
Absolutely wonderful. The whole concert is fabulous ! What a powerful voice. No trichery, no falsetto. Only "full voice". Pavarotti had that sharp sword in the voice which made it bright and sunny.
R.I.P. Maestro.
Regards from France
WANK83 2 years ago 29
@WANK83
of course he used only full voice. falsetto is for pussies =P
raigekimaru 11 months ago
Bravissimo Big Luciano ! Un vero Maestro del canto operistico, e non solo in quel campo musicale !
TheFredblue 2 years ago
Viva el gordi forever !!!!!!!!
gustavoanmosura 2 years ago
"Doooku":
Master...nessuno come lei...non aveva bisogno di piu voce....con la sua voce facciava tutto quello che voleva....fu e sará..il piu grande tenore dalla storia..."chicken's voice"?..jejeje..puói facciar lo´stesso...?
QUESTANOTTE88 2 years ago
Per il Trovatore preferisco voci più potenti di Pavarotti, perchè la sua voce è bella per la dolcezza che ha, e si può esprimere meglio in altre opere. Ovviamente è eccellente pure in questa esibizione.
frankie17984 2 years ago 6
SONO D'ACCORDO CON TE FRANKIE
andyroma72 2 years ago
@frankie17984 bel commento
rasataplanta 1 year ago
@frankie17984 Certo amico.,
QUESTANOTTE88 1 year ago
@frankie17984 TIPO?
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chicken's voice
Doooku 2 years ago
BRAVA Maestro.... Yes those are High Bs not C's but they Are good High b's not strangulated, ... FAbulous.
kgarmaker123 2 years ago
Io voglio solo dire questo: Grazie Pavarotti!
WloScielaneve 2 years ago
If you think that's a "C" at the end then it must be a barocktuning!
machmalhall 2 years ago
I primi due "ALL'ARMI" si discostano dalla versione "ortodossa", era questo lo scritto originale di Verdi?
berto1999 2 years ago
ma chi ha detto che Manrico deve essere un tenore drammatico? leggete Lauri Volpi e altri maestri di canto...
Pavarotti era tenore di grazia? (altra finzione pseudocritica del novecento verista), ma neanche nei suoi primi anni (cantava Bohème, Ballo, Puritani, Lombardi)
l'ho visto in Trovatore (Verona '78) e posso assicurare che aveva voce ampia e squillante ma anche un fraseggio vario e sfumato, come Verdi vuole
Manrico è un giovane di appena 17/18 anni non un energumeno
mongemark 2 years ago
Realmente fue el ùltimo divo del Siglo XX..su voz..su presencia escénica....grandioso...el verle y al oir su voz nos dejaba sin respiraciòn....MARAVILLOSOOOOOO
bettynaify 2 years ago
Cool.
youknowsit45 2 years ago
¡Wow!!! ¡that voice is very beatiful!!
alcvdb 2 years ago 3
QUESTO REPERTORIO CANTAVANO: Caruso,Marconi,Bonci,Tamagno,Escalais,Fleta,Masini,Fleta,Pertile ,eccetera............!!!! Pavarotti era ultimo vero tenore di grazia ,il repertorio di tenore drammatico non ere per la sua bellissima voce!!!!
bodiloto 2 years ago 3
The last time I heard this great man sing this aria, he did not take the repeat, and he was unable to sustain the high "C" for very long, either. I guess the pancreatic cancer had started to take its toll on him. But the world of opera may not see his like again for a very long time. BRAVO, signor!
sk8erjon 2 years ago 2
...di quella pira...
norloc00 2 years ago 2
Pavarotti is in another class from Domingo and Carreras. I never bought that big three gimmick.. Domingo's nasally voice doesn't do much justice for this role. Corelli as Manrico is a different story though. He is a great spinto tenor. Not Domingo...
tonyhan0903 2 years ago 21
@tonyhan0903 ¡Amen!
dendrix01 1 year ago
@tonyhan0903 Your opinion is completely unvalid since you say Pavarotti was spinto. Nothing more unreal than that. First learn what Spinto tenor is and which kind of voice Pavarotti had.
Also, this caballetta is transposed down half a tone. Which is always the normal thing to do, the exception is to sing it in original key.
gonzalordm 1 year ago
@gonzalordm I said Corelli was spinto, not Pavarotti, duh?
tonyhan0903 1 year ago
@tonyhan0903 Carreras is way way way above Domingo Domingo had more of a waaaa as apposed to nasally voice. Do your self a favor serch Carraras not only arias but songs , espc a concert from berlin just before he became sick.
tenorismo 1 year ago
@tonyhan0903 Pavarotti, Caruso, Del Monaco, Di Stefano, Gigli, Corelli, Wunderlich. Tenors of the Century.
operabuff23 1 year ago
@tonyhan0903 i TOTALLY AGREE
Giovannifabuloso 1 year ago
Непревзойдённый контроль над голосом.
VovkaPetrov2009 2 years ago
I have always wondered what happened after this big singing when Man and the troops ran off to rescue Mama. between acts Luna must have whipped his ass, , because in the next act Man and Azu are in the tower and the army has vanished, but good old Ruiz is still around to guide Leo. The off stage battle event is very confusing.
elzuzo267 2 years ago
Mark-Pava not suitable for this role? Well one can argue that the timbre of his voice is not spinto hence he's singing out of his fach. But that misses the fact that he sings it superbly. Get a clue man. SUpposedly, Mingo and Carreras have a more heavier timbre. They sucked in this role.
TheInquisitive4Ever 2 years ago
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a weak and small voice...pity
Doooku 2 years ago
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jenni4claire 2 years ago
Pavarotti chodzi z tym mieczem po scenie, jak z kijem, albo wentką - śpiewak z niego moze i był wielki, ale aktor z niego był zaden.
tiret1982 2 years ago
it seemed like he had to push himself pretty hard to get through it. Overall, he did a pretty good job, but this piece is best left to a true Italianate dramatic tenor like Corelli.
raigekimaru 2 years ago
Keep in mind this is 1988 and well past his prime. Listen to his renditions in 1978 or 1975 here on youtube as they are stellar.
Nater389 2 years ago
I always take my hat off to Pav of 60s&70s,thats the Pav for ages.But in roles like Manrico,he is far from his best,thats what I mean mate.And answering to your question regarding whos full package,for me there are quite a few names,as Manrico I would say Mario Del Monaco,Corelli, Bonisolli. All great tenors have their signature roles and Pavs were belcanto and lyric roles:Alfredo,Duke,Rodolfo ofc,Cavaradossi as well but nothing heavier.Beefed up voice isnt my idea of handling heavier roles
markovican 2 years ago
Dude! That b4 in the final cadence was perfect. The squillo is sublime. And he sung both syllable in addition. Do you even know about what you're talking? And he sings so superbly in Act III in a very demanding operatic role. You'd be hard pressed to see Mingo or Carreras singing this role so masterfully. Get a clue for heaven's sake!
TheInquisitive4Ever 2 years ago
you're right about Domingo and Carreras (they'd butcher this role), but if you hear Corelli or Bonisolli sing this, you'll see what I'm talking about.
raigekimaru 2 years ago 3
Raige-You little 17 genius. I don't need to see them. I already do know all that and I even know people who have seen them live. What you see hear is a lyrico's interpretation of a spinto role and Pava sings this beautifully.
TheInquisitive4Ever 2 years ago
what does being 17 have to do with anything? I'm simply saying that he doesn't have the power that a dramatic tenor can bring to this piece.
raigekimaru 2 years ago
Your blurting things out about which you have no real life experience. You're trying to repeat encyclopedic knowledge, which a monkey can do if trained properly. Manrico is a spinto role by the way, requiring quite a bit of agility in addition to punch. A traditional tenore dramatico cannot do justice to this role. So get your facts straight.
TheInquisitive4Ever 2 years ago
Ooo goosebumps
1379852456 2 years ago
I completely disagree with people who call him the full package. Not just wooden on stage, he SUCKED at emoting. His way of emoting was reduced to gasping, fake bawling or when all else fails, turning up the volume. Listening to 2 of his Vesti La Giubbas, the "crying" and gasping at the end made me want to toss the CD out the window. I agree with a lot of criticism flung at, say, Carreras, but his EMI Pagliacci TROUNCES P's, and anything else to do with emoting for that matter.
harmonicana80 2 years ago
Pavarotti nearly never sobbed, Vesti la giubba was really the only aria ever he sobbed through, and it wasn't even in the singing, he did it at the end. You'd be hard pressed to find him sobbing in anything else, he did the occasional one at the very close of E lucevan le stelle, but that's about it.
He was a very good actor vocally, he used dynamics and shading in his phrasing to create effects.
Mooorhe 2 years ago 4
Compared to Pavarotti, Domingo is just a small sunnyboy.
kritikoreal 2 years ago
Corelli Better!!!!!!!!!
marshall666666schila 2 years ago
Superbe et credible !!!
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upatoia 2 years ago
Pava:THE BESTO,,,, search:"luciano pavarotti di quella pira (live 1978)"....
QUESTANOTTE88 2 years ago
BEST EEEEEEEEEEVER!!!!!!
stefici90 2 years ago 2
I feel sorry for all who have never heard him in a live performance.....The last act duet with Azucena was something I'll never forget from that performance.
a57se 2 years ago
I saw the Met production of Il Trovatore with Pav in 1988, I don't know if it was the same performance as this video, The 88 season opened with this show and I was at the second curtain. Pav was totally amazing, I was in the rear orchestra and he certainly wasn't stiff as a board although he wasn't Villazon running around like a little kid either. These videos are great to see and listen to, but the voice is even better in the house,
a57se 2 years ago 2
The best! The others I prefer don't say anything!
rmtenorlirico 2 years ago
He's my favorite tenor. Like...ever.
thekawaiiclub 2 years ago 2
sublime, this is ambrosia dipped in nectar.
doctorw2 2 years ago
0:57 ...just great.
Grande Maestro..
Greatest tenor I've ever heard....
SchugOo 2 years ago
Something I really like about Pavarotti is his ability to make you feel what he's singing.
That's what's called _art_.
extranged 2 years ago
Bravo!
Simply Marvelous....
cashman88 3 years ago 2
Bravo!!!!!!!!!
El final es absolutamente SOBREHUMANO.
IMPRESIONANTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grandísimo Pavarotti como siempre.
Un lujo poder escucharlo.
Zublerio 3 years ago
It ain't over 'til the fat man sings.
Oh man I am original.
gun4hire 3 years ago 3
Pav was a great tenor,a great voice.But when it comes to stage presence,acting(wont comment his looks)he was really lacking in these abilities. Dont get me wrong I appreciate him, he was an incredible voice,full lyric tenor, and he was at his prime on opera stages in 60s&70s.However when assessing great operatic singers,commanding stage presence,dramatic talents&acting arent mentioned for nothing as abilities that matter along with the voice.Del Monaco,Corelli,Domingo were all alot better.
markovican 3 years ago
I disagree, tenors these days jump around the stage like it will make their voices more powerful. Pavarotti drew the attention to himself by resisting the temptation to overact, thus making him even more powerful and great of an actor. He was an animal.
bwaybud 2 years ago
Pav didnt resist his temptation to overact, he lacked acting ability.The thing is that being a great opera artist doesnt revolve only around singing,having stage presence,acting&dramatic abilities&possible good looks is as important as having the great voice,unless you only listen to the cd,then those characteristics dont matter.I prefer full package to just great voices cause I like to watch opera dvd's when I'm not in the theatre itself.Just cause he is most famous doesnt make him best ever.
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