@water2gashawaii I found out that that is indeed what was proposed. To convert fuel to hydrogen. Of course this is not done the same way as HHO devices do it. An HHO device has to borrow energy from an engine that already has spent gasoline to run it.
That borrowed energy never comes back, because having to convert it a bunch of times incurs losses.
The Exxon car Converts fuel to hydrogen, to electricity, and then to motion. Perhaps more efficient than an ICE.
@a1mint on new fuel cell cars this may be a good idea, but the cost is prohibitive for most. I think that if you take ICE cars, of which millions are already on the road, you need to find a way to make fuel from renewable sources, and I think Hydrogen is the Answer.
@water2gashawaii I also suspect that Exxon wants to make darn well sure that they get to make all the claims to the key patents that result from a project like this.
WAIT A MINUTE??? Now I see what this is. Exxon is shrinking their GAS CRACKING technology to fit under the hood of the car. It has nothing to do with HHO. Well it took them long enough.
I saw some large storage tanks in the trunk of that vehicle design. Looks to me like hydride tanks to capture the gas made by the onboard H-generators. If that's the case then this car is not using HHO, because there's no way exxon would risk storing it in a tank! ..Unless they have a new way of storing HHO?? Most likely it's only Hydrogen Storage and they vent the O2. or store the O2 in the second tank.
You are all wrong. They know that replacing oil with hydrogen means they can meter the hydrogen and charge you for it, if you can make it on demand, like Jack Nikolsen did in 1971 (he was on tv with his hydrogen car made from solar)or united nuclear are doing now, then you win other wise shell and Excon will just charge you for hydrogen , when you can make it on demand if your smart.
@ashtweth You might be one of the dumbest of the dumb except for Michael Couch. They are not replacing oil with hydrogen, they are extracting hydrogen from oil. Hydrogen was used as the fuel for proof of concept for the internal combustion engine. I have been following Ballard Fuel Cells company since before the year 2000. The real problem with hydrogen is storage which oil is an excellent way to store hydrogen. Fuel cells convert hydrogen to electricity very efficiently. All HHO reserach claim
@whgage There is nothing funner to me then a dumb ass who misinterprets some thing and tries to find a way for some one to take notice of him. They are replacing the monopoly of oil with hydrogen and not making it from renewable.. Goi back to bed. Sleep well. Hydrides solve the problem, so do on Hydrogen on demand solar stations i mentioned. Do some more reading, talk less.
I could be wrong, but here is My take on the subject. Exxon mobile Knows that the Jig is up. All the HHO community of experimentors and hobbyists, are making great strides. Exxon will point to this commercial when the truth gets out and say " WE discovered it first" we have the patent rights. So for 17.5 years they control the profit.
@gemrough lol yeah ExxonMobil sells gasoline, why would they back a competing product like HHO? Because they know it works and they don't want to be left behind. The reason many people have problems getting it to work for them, is the cars computer fights the results. As we get more technically advanced with electronics more people are showing gains.
That car has hydrogen storage tanks. It does not make hydrogen on demand while driving. It makes hydrogen when you plug it into an outlet.
a1mint 2 months ago
@a1mint I think they were talking about reforming fuel to make hydrogen. I suppose they were planning to use hydrocarbons such as gasoline.
water2gashawaii 2 months ago
@water2gashawaii Do you know of any credible links that describe exactly what this project is about and how exactly it works?
a1mint 2 months ago
@water2gashawaii I found out that that is indeed what was proposed. To convert fuel to hydrogen. Of course this is not done the same way as HHO devices do it. An HHO device has to borrow energy from an engine that already has spent gasoline to run it.
That borrowed energy never comes back, because having to convert it a bunch of times incurs losses.
The Exxon car Converts fuel to hydrogen, to electricity, and then to motion. Perhaps more efficient than an ICE.
a1mint 2 months ago
@a1mint on new fuel cell cars this may be a good idea, but the cost is prohibitive for most. I think that if you take ICE cars, of which millions are already on the road, you need to find a way to make fuel from renewable sources, and I think Hydrogen is the Answer.
water2gashawaii 2 months ago
@water2gashawaii You'd need a good hydrogen storage method though.
a1mint 2 months ago
@water2gashawaii I also suspect that Exxon wants to make darn well sure that they get to make all the claims to the key patents that result from a project like this.
a1mint 2 months ago
WAIT A MINUTE??? Now I see what this is. Exxon is shrinking their GAS CRACKING technology to fit under the hood of the car. It has nothing to do with HHO. Well it took them long enough.
BruceEnergetics 1 year ago
I saw some large storage tanks in the trunk of that vehicle design. Looks to me like hydride tanks to capture the gas made by the onboard H-generators. If that's the case then this car is not using HHO, because there's no way exxon would risk storing it in a tank! ..Unless they have a new way of storing HHO?? Most likely it's only Hydrogen Storage and they vent the O2. or store the O2 in the second tank.
BruceEnergetics 1 year ago
You are all wrong. They know that replacing oil with hydrogen means they can meter the hydrogen and charge you for it, if you can make it on demand, like Jack Nikolsen did in 1971 (he was on tv with his hydrogen car made from solar)or united nuclear are doing now, then you win other wise shell and Excon will just charge you for hydrogen , when you can make it on demand if your smart.
ashtweth 1 year ago
@ashtweth You might be one of the dumbest of the dumb except for Michael Couch. They are not replacing oil with hydrogen, they are extracting hydrogen from oil. Hydrogen was used as the fuel for proof of concept for the internal combustion engine. I have been following Ballard Fuel Cells company since before the year 2000. The real problem with hydrogen is storage which oil is an excellent way to store hydrogen. Fuel cells convert hydrogen to electricity very efficiently. All HHO reserach claim
whgage 1 year ago
@whgage There is nothing funner to me then a dumb ass who misinterprets some thing and tries to find a way for some one to take notice of him. They are replacing the monopoly of oil with hydrogen and not making it from renewable.. Goi back to bed. Sleep well. Hydrides solve the problem, so do on Hydrogen on demand solar stations i mentioned. Do some more reading, talk less.
ashtweth 1 year ago
I could be wrong, but here is My take on the subject. Exxon mobile Knows that the Jig is up. All the HHO community of experimentors and hobbyists, are making great strides. Exxon will point to this commercial when the truth gets out and say " WE discovered it first" we have the patent rights. So for 17.5 years they control the profit.
merlinspower 1 year ago
Exxon is just another hho scammer..... Give me a break 80% there is no way! I mean just ask desertpuke, he no's all... lol
gemrough 1 year ago
@gemrough lol yeah ExxonMobil sells gasoline, why would they back a competing product like HHO? Because they know it works and they don't want to be left behind. The reason many people have problems getting it to work for them, is the cars computer fights the results. As we get more technically advanced with electronics more people are showing gains.
water2gashawaii 1 year ago
@water2gashawaii HHO is not a competing product. Learn some science before putting your foot in your mouth.
whgage 1 year ago
I think innovators develop new ideas, math has no imagination at all.
water2gashawaii 1 year ago