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  • Fucking niggers

  • MAKE LOBAMBA ADMIT HE IS REALLY OSAMA BIN LADEN WITHOUT THE TURBAN AND BEARD !

  • damm that veteran slapped him in the face

  • That ad spoke to Obama's character, or lack thereof. And it was completely true.

    This video spends its time alluding to the McCain ad being possible false in some of it's points, yet it didn't reveal anything direct & concrete that disputes McCain's ad.

    And wow! The most Liberal, pro-Obama channels are included in this "rebuttal." Whoodathunkit, huh?

    What a load of bullshit.

  • friends dont let friends vote Dem

  • I think yo umean friends don't let friends vote republican

  • david gurgen is a member of a (satanic?) cult that worships owls and egyptian demons. dont believe a word out of david gurgens lie-hole.

  • I still can't believe Obama won the campaign without using negative ads. It might be a first in American politics.

  • . . . If it had happened. Both Mccain and Obama used negative ads. Look it up, if you must.

  • McCain was nothing more than a lying old fool and where is that great economy McCain said we had ?

  • obama's a baby-killing wealth-distributing left-wing piece of garbage

  • mccains a minority killing wealthhogging, right wing son of a bitch

  • "mccains a minority killing wealthhogging, right wing son of a bitch"

    And who did he murder? Do you have .... anything to back that up?

  • im on cam and bored

    lovin this video!! leave me a comment Np

  • I do wish SLANDER against the future president of the United States.. and who is now President ELECT of the United States..should be quickly retracted, within a week, by the putz who "approved this message." I got so sick of the dirty low down campaign that McCain and his girly ran. Lies and slander are below the highest office of the greatest country. What can we do to stop this and make it against the law? Its illegal to slander a guy on the street, why not the future President?

  • whoever marked this as spam is a dumb shit!

  • How BUSH together with THE BIN LADENS made TENS OF MILLIONS ON THE WAR IN IRAK, AFGANISTAN...

    Search video: FAHRENHEIT 9 11 CARLYLE GROUP

  • yeh right! Barack works in public service and supports over 18 charities, then ignores his brother ... do you take any responsibility for what you say?

  • It's not over guys. So you better go VOTE, because all this will mean absolutely NOTHING if you and your friends don't vote.

  • I am John Mc Cain, I approuve this message

  • John Mc Cain has allready lost

  • but Obama didn't and wouldn't do this, it's beneath him ... how could he look his kids in the eye if he devoted himself to sluring McCain? I hope the better man wins ... i think we all know who that is.

  • Isnt it funny Mccain is screaming socialism when Palin said this of her state,

    "And Alaska we're set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs."

  • "Thats just how white folks will do you."

    -Barack Obama,Bring us together with his words.

  • "Thats just how white folks will do you."

    -Barack Obama,Bring us together with his words.

  • have you ever read the constitution?

    I am a school teacher and teach to my students, we have it posted on the wall.

    What school did you go to?

    get a copy and try reading it.

  • It was deregulated by Clinton so he could pay for the black vote. Nuff said!

  • why is anyone even paying attention to thnana50? it is a jesus freak from texas.that should discount it from any discussion about anything beyond the benefits of incest and how jesus would have a pair of .45's strapped on if he were alive today.

    TEXAS, ITS LIKE A WHOLE OTHER COUNTRY.

    NOW LETS SAVE THE US AND MAKE TEXAS A DIFFERENT COUNTRY

  • Do not let Obama and the one world order enter the white house! Go to Share international and you will see the anti-christ is at the white house door! You will be stunned!

  • Terrorists do support him! Do a little search right here on you tube. (Barack Obama is a Muslim, says Libya's Qadhafi)Why do you think he had such a warm reception on his "world tour"? People know he is a weak liberal and would love to bring down the most powerful nation on earth, that is why.

  • uh huh, uh huh. just like all the republicans were claiming that they were happy barack won in the primaries because he would be easier to beat, right? get out of here

  • And suggesting terrorists support him? the reality is his less arrogant approach will pull the rug out from terrorists and you will have a chance of winding down the "war on terror" without vast amounts of bloodshed, that will most likely still involve the same eventual compromises.

  • I decided to look into what you guys are discussing here, (i am in the UK) I am finding myself concerned about Obamas tax plans, amusingly.

    I cannot understand accusations of tax and spend against him, in reality the majority will pay less tax, unfortunately I think he will struggle to pay for public services, and the promised improvements to schools etc wont come. You guys who accuse him of socialism are so far from reality. if problems come it wont be because he is socialist.

  • lmao you use NBC as a source... wow.....

  • What are they supposed to use, FOX or worse yet, CNN?

  • NOT NBC... not liberal media... that's so stupid

  • I'm sorry are you implying that Fox and CNN are non-biased. Don't just assume Republicans are right about everything....or anything for that matter.

  • FOX maybe, but CNN definetly not. Don't just assume extreme left media is correct about everything... or anything either.

  • Lies are just how the GOP plays ball! Get over it!

  • Its not McCain who is running a negative campain... It is the FACTS about Osama that are negative!

  • you mean those "facts" that aren't actually facts at all?! LOL, wow.

  • Vote for a radical black muslim for the President of the United States? NOT! The do nothing liberal congress are the ones responsible for the economic meltdown ie Barney Frank and Dodd. Not to mention the fraud of Osama's group (paid for by tax dollars) Acorn. You can't give loans to illegal aliens and scumbags and expect to get paid back! I want to keep the money I earn, I don't want to have to keep giving it away these lazy bastards that think this country owes them something!

  • this election has turned mccain into a man who will do and say whatever it takes to win the election.. what happened to the honor he learned in the navy?

  • We need a LANDSLIDE!

    VOTE

    VOTE Obama Nov 4th!!!

    VOTE

    It's NOT OVER YET!

  • Great clip! McCain really has sunk low with these kind of ads. And McCain is still talking about "Joe the plumber".

    Joe the plumbers helper will do better under Obama's tax plan.

  • im sick of rich white dipshits, this is a good video shows the real fucking side of shit!

  • 9 out of 10 terrorists prefer Obama! Dont worry Obama is working on the last one! Please! Osama needs your vote for Obama! He needs a guy that works with terrorists and will be weak on defense while cutting and running stealing defeat from the jaws of victory! Be a traitor to your country and make Osama smile! VOTE OBAMA 08! VOTE FOR OSAMA'S Favorite little terrorist loving socialist!

  • Other way round.

  • OK, and then BO needs to stop all his shit also. Wake up people. I would rather have McCain than Obama, and his radical socialistic friends anyway.

  • In know mr. Obama is ahead, but still, I've seen that crap when you morons elect. I need some fat lady singing!

  • As you would -ever- look abroad, you would know america is still pretty behind when it comes to Obama support ;)

    Just imagine.. president Palin. OMFG. O.M.F.G !!1! Worse than Bush. You people scare me.

  • yes! I love all you people!

    Finally some intellegence! Go Barack! Go Joe!

  • Pray that people wake up and get over any racial prejudices and vote for the better man.

    If McCain and Palin get in, the US is in big trouble.

  • you said it =] but it's basically over now, obama is soo far ahead XD

  • Yeah, :-) but now's not the time to be complacent. Voters can be fickle and there are still some playing the racist card. Everyone please make sure you get the vote in to make sure we get a true statesman in the White House, not another George W Bush.

  • haha, he really is just another bush, and they call themselves mavericks LOL

  • so im guessing you're a supporter of socialism?

    you dont even know what george did wrong, you liberals just use him for a scapegoat for all of the liberal majority congress's failures.

    disgusting.

  • Don't know what George Bush did wrong - you must be blind - look at the state of the economy - £700 Billion spent on Iraq - weapons of mass destruction my ass.

  • wow ur an idiot. i love how conservatives are throwing the term socialism around nowadays, what is wrong with the economic side of socialism? and the majority congress doenst have much of a majority, can't undo six years of mistake, and dont have the balls to oppose bush's idiot plans.

  • The USA was dragged into a war by fraud. (lies created by the Bush clan)

    The US banking system was allowed to give sub prime mortgages to almost all comers (Think about sub prime and what it means)

    The Republicans and Bush dynasty has ruined your economy.

    Their friends get rich and thousands of US Soldiers die.

    Business as usual.

    One more thing... They dragged the world into what could be a depression.

  • The US banking system was brought down by pressure from Obama, Acorn, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd to name a few. They cry racism if banks didn't lend money to blacks. I say F*CK them! Vote for a TRUE AMERICAN! John McCain!

    Nuff Said!

  • Think about that.

    Banks run sub prime to anyone that can walk.

    They jack up the interest once folks are in a home and cause insolvency.

    They repo the home / s by the truck load and drive the value down.

    They sell bad debt to other banks around the world with a polish job that could (and did) make shit shine.

    This is why we are in the soup now.

    Not that it matters but Obama is Baptist; but if he was Islamic: so what!

    Same God, Same 10 Commandments.

  • noooo it was brought down by everyone's favorite pres, GEORGE BUSH and people like john mccain who voted for more and more deregulation which allowed banks to give loans they knew couldn't be payed back.

  • @NBomb08 Finally someone with some intelligence!

    The US was drug into war by congress. Not by Bush, sorry guys, quit listening to the media so much.

    Its liberal tendency to make conservatives look bad. Go look up the "Global Poverty Act" which Obama was one of the key components of making. Give away US money to foreign nations ($845 Billion). Oh but guess what the best part is, it specifies that BUSH would have to plan how to give that money away. Enabling Demos to play the blame game again

  • John. what's up? You know by now you will lose. Back up and get off the train at the next stop! Obama/Biden for a Better WORLD!

  • Please go away, John. God bless and best of luck, PLEASE bow out NOW!

  • John McCain is a desperate, old man. Money grubbing, power freak, greedy old bastard. One time he had my respect, NO LONGER! I tried JOhn, but your ego won out.

    I do NOT want YOU or Sarah Palin representing my country. Apologize NOW and regain some respect.

  • What claims did McCain make? What did he say?

  • and fox is run by right wing assholes that like McCain. so i think i will stick with cnn, the most watched news station in america.

  • Ha, ha, MSNBC and CNN are totally in the tank for Obama. They are propagandists for the Obama campaign. Joseph Goebbels was the Minister of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda in Nazi Germany. He could have learned quite a bit from MSNBC and CNN.

  • FUCK FOX NEWS!!!

  • Anyone who seriously believes Obama is a terrorist has perception so blatantly bad that it is hardly surprising they'd vote McCain. These are the same muppets that voted for Bush..... Not just once, but TWICE for Christsake! Dumb, Dumber and Dumberer :O

  • hey mccain supporters... if obama is a terrorist, why did he vote for the patriot act which would have sent him to prison? why is the fbi not involved, or the nsa? why is he not in guantanamo, that prison we built in cuba off our shores to round up the terrorists? why is bill ayers a university professor and not in jail today? why does he get called to meetings by president bush? anyone?

  • When Republicans Controlled Congress:  Gas $2.19 Unemployment 4 1/2% DOW over 14000 (These are facts verifiable to everyone)

  • Yea, and as ice cream sales increase, the rate of drowning deaths increase, so ice cream is responsible for drownings.

  • no you stupid shit, congress actually has an impact on things like unemployment and gas prices. And I bet you would say that Bush is causing all of these problems, just like the rest of the ill-informed democrats who can't remember the first 7 years of his presidency

  • I know it's frustrating for you to contend with all of the faulty right-wing logic that you're getting hit with from certain media. Your brain synapses can't deal with the contradictions of the false arguments that you've been sold - and you resort to name-calling, and spewing the incoherent banter anyway. If you want to talk about this some more, I'll set up some sessions for you. I offer 20% discounts to those who have been harmed by this right-wing mania condition. Be well my friend.

  • seriously people like you on youtube who act like you are so much higher than everyone else because you take the time to write something that makes you sound like a genius. By the way, where in the hell did you get the idea that media is right-winged?

  • its all about how the leftwing propaganda machine works. It digs its heels in so deep that it convinces whoever it brainwashes that those on the Right have been duped. That's how thoroughly brain-washed they are. And they suffer with self-certitude and wont even admit that they control hollywood, the media or academia

  • Do you really think Fox News is a left wing media outlet ? Fox news spread McCain's lies on a daily bases.

  • dude where did anyone say fox news was left winged? that's the only one that is right winged, but they seemed to be a little more balanced this election than previous ones, especially on voting day

  • Fox News is nothing more than a republican smear machine. They lie everyday when they say they are fair and balanced. Notice fox news never asked Palin about the 25 million dollar gravel road to the bridge to nowhere. 25 million dollars for 3.5 miles of gravel road to no where.

  • "they seemed to be a little more balanced this election"

    True, proven by a study at the Center for Media and Public Affairs, George Mason University.

  • other then fox its left wing all the way

  • lol

  • edinburgwatcher-Why don't you explain how dems who took over congress in Jan.2007, caused the problems you mentioned.You're another republican spreading lies.This week McSame admitted his campaign of lies had gone too far and called Obama "a good man".You should learn from that.The housing market problems started in 2005.Repubs got us here and deregulation starting during the Reagan years was a big factor.Ask oil companies why they only drill on 25% of the areas which they have under lease

  • McCain is his own worst enemy. Obama is awakening to a new eartha and McCain is old serpent brain reaction. And Palin pinhead is female attack dog-pitbull with lipstick. Bitch againt women!!!

  • Obama INSPIRES. McCain INCITES.

  • the republicans have fucked the USA, i hope the people see sense and vote them out, in 8 yrs they have destroyed America in every way, financially, culturally, militarily and have allowed torture, something i thought America stood up against, now the world sees America as Satan incarnate, shame cos i love the American people , and you need to win your country back.

  • And U live where?n a place where you cannot fly the Union Jack...

  • Fox News is a joke!!

  • John Mcsame is F**king Crazy

  • We really don't have a good choice for President! Both parties are ruining this country! They are truly pathetic!

  • McCain is willing to say and do just about anything it seems to get himself the power he wants. He needs to retire and live in his eleven gorgeous homes while us poorer folk try to recover from being ripped off by eight years of Republican greed.

  • i need a real man in my life!! any takers?

  • Mccain is so much like Bush and I will never vote for another Bush!

  • i don't think obama is crushing mccain in polls because americans are having a knee-jerk reaction. Knee-jerk reaction was when mccain got temporary boost in polls when sarah palin seduced all the sex starved white males but their hard on quickly disappeared when she opened her mouth to answer real issues. Obama is leading because so far in two debates he is the one talking substance and most people see it (but not you) All republicans are good at is cynism which people are tired of.

  • Let's see, the score from the debates last I checked was...

    Obama/Biden: 2

    McCain/Palin: 0

    Tonight is McCain's last and final opportunity.

  • CNN and MSNBC only. Read some real news people.

  • OBAMA IS SUCH..A..LIAR

  • in this country a separation between church and state exists that renders your statement retarded. most of the mindless Jesus freaks bitching about Wright attend churches throughout Miss., GA, KY, TN, LA, TX where I assure you racists are a plenty. show me a southerner and I'll show you a bigoted pig. the religious are mindless and slaves to a fairy tale about a boogey man in the sky. men with intellect can separate reality from children's stories. Bush staring into peoples souls? please

  • There is nothing in the constitution about separation of church and state. I am from Tx and not racist This country was founded on Christianity. One thing about us christian if we are wrong when we die we will turn to dust. If you are wrong when you die you will burn in Hell. Who has the most to lose

  • "There is nothing in the constitution about separation of church and state."

    The First Amendment to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that expressly prohibits the United States Congress from making laws "respecting an establishment of religion" or that prohibit the free exercise of religion.

    wow. you need to return to grammar school you jesus freak. put down your bible and gun for a day. you should be deported. retard.

  • have you ever read the constitution?

    I am a school teacher and I teach it to my students, we even have it posted on the wall.

    You should try reading it.

  • lol why include his middle name, like its a bad thing?

    Simple fuck.

  • haha fuck mccain and palin. they have to talk shit to get elected . shows their real colors. its funny how obama doesnt need to talk negative.

  • McCain-Palin must be running out of steam.

    Because they can't sell themselves ... they convince us that Obama-Biden is no better.

  • McCain is a disgraceful human being. Which is why he will lose this election.

  • I hope everyone put down their beers and stood up to listen to the part about VP executive power and Dick Cheney last night. Sarah has no problem with Dick Cheney saying: Fuck the constitution! Ya, she was cute and well rehearsed, but has no problem NOT adhering to the constitution. Obama taught constitutional law for 10 years. If for nothing else, you should vote for Obama because of that. I could list a lot more reasons, but that is the most important one! CONSTITUTION!

  • John McCain has an expensive new makeup artist.

    Apparently she forgot to cover his dingleberries

    HE STILL LOOKS LIKE AN ASSHOLE!

  • That comment was as useless as your life. Where did you get that one? PlayGirl magazine? Atleast say something that means something. Not useless tripe.

    A comment that discusting comes from a mind with no morals, or self respect.

    Seriously, get a life, read, learn something, then come back and make a comment that would atleast make a differance.

  • VicAzcro: I will have to agree wit you on that one even if I am totally against McCain.  Make up has nothing to do with qualifiacations.

  • No Way, No How, No McSame!

  • Read the truth about John McPlane Crash on the Rolling Stone website.

  • wow read about a war hero in a fucking hippie/liberal music magazine no thanks

  • i don't want a president with a bucket list.

    We all know how much Mccain has lied. The hilarious party is that he's said he's been nothing but honest.

  • And obama has been truthful all this time..lol.

    Obama has been such an angel. Hell, he lied throughout the whole first debate.

    He lied about not knowing his pastor of 20 years, He lied about his tax plan not raising taxes on people making $42,000.00 a year, His dealings with that corrupt chicago slumlord. LOL. But hey, Obama is THE ONE, huh?

    LOL, the one thats a total shit for brains. Dems want obama to win so he can be a puppet. A nobody with no experience = PUPPET!

  • I couldn't tell during the debate if McCain was actually debating or auditioning for a role in the upcoming film "Grumpy Old Men 2"

  • OBAMA-BIDEN '08

  • Last year, Barack said he was 46 years old. Now he claims to be 47. Which is it, Barack? Better keep your story straight.

    He'd also like you to believe he's not a baby eater. But he's never gone on record saying he isn't. Maybe he's too busy eating babies...

    - I am John McCain and I approve this message. -

  • oh my god that is soooo funny lmao

    toucheeee

  • it is weird, they both have lied, they are politicians, but forgetting your age is weird

  • McCain is little nasty old man...

  • McCain the sellout

  • **OBAMA/BIDEN 0/8**

    For a better, MORE HONEST and SAFER America!!

  • If McCain is untruthful in his adverts, will he change and become truthful should he gain office?

  • If Obama gets elected will he have rev. Wright, Father Phleger, and Bill Ayers on his cabinets. Will he paint the white house black.

  • First ... Barack will put articulate, intelligent, people like Joe Biden, Colin Powell, Bill Clinton & Al Gore in his cabinet.

    Second, thnana50, even your idiot suggestions would have been a far better than president GW Bush's team.

    Third, McCain has his own bunch of misfits, ... Sarah Palin, her Pastor Thomas the witch hunter Muthee, McCain's preacher Rev John Armageddon Hagee, Charles in jail Keating, and G. Gordon Watergate Liddy who he praised this January.

  • That "pssst, do something" was so cheesy. Anyways McCain is a douch.

  • What a TERRIBLE man is mccain

  • SHAME ON McCAIN

    LIAR LIAR PANT ON FIRE

  • Newsflash: John McCain gets OWNED.

    Only a morally and mentally degenerate OLD MAN like John McCain could be such a WAR WHORE could LIE repeatedly in a DEBATE and expect the American people to be stupid enough to buy it.

    PATHETIC and INSULTING TO ALL AMERICANS.

    JOHN MCCAIN = OBVIOUSLY TOO OLD AND TOO DERANGED TO LEAD.

  • Not to mention less confident than Obama.

  • Common people, We all know how desparate The GOP is atm. Yet do not stoop to their lvl of name calling and insults. That is "their" last resort since they cant, and have not, denied the fact that McCain adds are completly misleading, aiming at grabbing peoples votes by distorting the truth. GOP supporters like to yell "liberal" "anti-american" but never want to debate about what has been aired...leave them with the isnults for it is all they have left.

  • Obama was more diplomatic and that's what we need..

    Obama/Biden '08!!

  • ☆Copy/Paste☆if you hate McCain☆

  • ☆Copy/Paste☆if you hate McCain☆

  • hahaha McCain calls out Obama and the whole democratic party comes to support their celebrity. LOL!

  • NEWS FLASH! Senate Bill 3604 was just shelved! What is S. 3604? It was another stimulus package to fund unemployment, food stamps, elderly aid, and more. Yep, the Republicans voted against it! Why? Because it didn't include an oil drilling ammendment! So, if you want to say that the GOP cares about the middle class, this is just one more example they DO NOT! Back to the GOP mantra! Big Oil/Big Business! Fuck the middle class! Obama/Biden - 2008

  • _./'\._

    *•. .•* *Obama/Biden o8!! Vote4 REAL Change!!

    /.•*•.\ ★°° ★°° ★°° ★°° ★°° ★°° ★°°

  • Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

    OBAMA = Change

    McCain = THE SAM-.. wait the kids are into that change thing... SCRATCH THAT!! McCAIN FOR CHANGE LOL.

  • What change are they offering? Which parts of their economic policy are any different from that of the Bush administration? Yea-- I don't know what's different either.

  • Except for a few dumb, inbred rednecks, NO ONE is accepting these lies by Republicans any more. 8 years of lies from Bush and his puppeteers Cheney and Rove was ENOUGH!

    Republicans = lying, greedy, in-the-closet, fake Christian pedophiles!

  • Definition of Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Obama/Biden - 2008

  • What a terrible man! He has no GUTS.

  • Seriously, I'm just fucking tired of a lot of these right-wing fuckwads who think they're the only ones with friends and/or loved ones in the Iraq war. They think they know what all troops think when, in reality, they haven't the slightest clue. I'm fucking done with the Republican party, THEY fucking use troops as political fodder and something to hide behind "oh, you must not like the troops" fuck those assholes who say that.

  • Thanks for seeing the light and the truth!

  • What you expect ol' snake face McBush not to speak with a severely forked tongue?

  • you're obviously trail trash and not a veteran..it's allowed not aloud. If you're a veteran then we're in big trouble because i don't know how you can operate a tank if you can't read. I can see how your unit is getting it's ass handed to it.

  • hmm listen to this piece of trailer trash "aloud". Get educated.

  • McCain's promoters have carefully edited out of their McCain-for-president equation is his post-traumatic stress disorder.Depart of Defense psychiatrists evaluated McCain for PTSD several times,the results of which remain locked by privacy laws.PTSD develops after exposure to a terrifying event in which physical harm occurred/threatened.

    An outcome of PTSD is a web of personal problems including difficulty in controlling intense emotions such as anger& inability to function well under stress.

  • Some years back, I was a self employed Information Technology professional. At that time, there were a number of individuals from other countries that were taking many of the hi-tech jobs that Americans could have taken. They did this by entering the country with an H1b visa.

    McCain voted to remove the cap from the H1b program. Considering how non-technical he is, I doubt he made this decision without input from lobbyists.

    I am no longer self-employed.

  • OBAMA '08

  • John McCain recently wrote and put into action a bill that put large signing bonuses in the hands of our hard working American troops, fighting terrorism in a land Obama would only go to when it got him in the news.

    Obama could have visited the wounded troops in Germany if he had wanted to.

    Obama promises a great America and great Americans that we will be; McCain lives as the great Americans we are today and has the lifelong track record of service.

  • In which part of McCain's service did he vote against funding healthcare for Veterans returning from Iraq? 2003-2007, right? Something around that, anyway. 7 Houses, 13 cars, yea-- I can REALLY relate to the McCain family.

  • haha, good one.. I can also relate. I have a '93 Honda Civic so I am voting for someone who will get rid of the Estate "Death" Tax so that my girlfriend can inherit my Civic tax free.

  • fox new has to be the most stupit news ever

  • REPUBLICANs system of trickle down economics, free markets & deregulation have destroyed this economy! now WE are all SOCIALIST! Thanks a he** of a lot!

    you shred the constitution, ignore the judicial system, say the VP has its own seperate branch, you lie to the american people into a war, put your buddies in charge of every branch of our government, destroy our military capabilites, & schools & now you blame it on dems.

    YOu guys really are bold/nuts/ but bold:

    WE NEED CHANGE....

    OBAMA_O8

  • Such rubbish. All these videos you guys produce have absolutely no effect on how anyone votes. Such a waste of bandwidth. LOL.

  • Stupid people are not the dimwitted or ill informed they are the people who refuse the truth and would rather play stupid.

    Obama/Biden "08