@OleStephens how so? its a perfect truck for everything from construction to off roading... tundra has an amazing balance of fuel economy, power, and durability. ask someone you know who drives one.
@BRIGGSandSTRATTONguy Perfect? For what I do, not a chance. I'm not going to lie, when you only need a truck to get from point a to b with nothing more than some ATV's or a boat, they may be fine, but for real work, no. Our Superduty's are constantly towing 25+k everyday. We use them fro real work, something a Toyota cannot be used for, we've tried and I had to pull a trencher home with my F150 because my brother's 09 Tundra bent it's frame trying to get out of the driveway.
@OleStephens sorry dude but you do not have a legvit argument. a superduty is a 3/4 ton and a tundra is a half ton. and now a days everyone makes a good truck, car suv, ect. and if i wanted to put 10k pounds opn the back of a 390 hp tundra it would do it. speak to someone who has done it (me). if a frame is built to handle a huge v8 its imbosible to bent a frame with boat of something.. if you try to but 25k pounds on a 1/2 ton truck u have no common sense. come again with a good argument.
its funny how these morons get on here and say the bolt size doesnt matter and the fords bolt is probably weaker anyway. watch the 2nd video you fools
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE...stop saying "bolt size doesn't matter,tensile strength,yadayada" and watch the second half of this video..ford bolt withstands almost 2x the torque.
first of all bolt size is not everything,it bolt strenght,tinsle strenght.just because a bolt is one size smaller doesnt mean everything.so why did they show the chevy bolt,you need to up date your vid,show tinsle strenght and size,fuckin ford always only tellin half the story
Ford marketing is at it again. The strength of the bolt is what matters not how big it is. If they had engineers worth a damn at Ford they would know that. Instead the have a bolt that is three times too big for the load. No wonder the F-150 is so slow off the line compared to the Tundra. Congratulations Ford you made a brick with wheels. Very impressive.
I've never had an issue with a leaf spring bolt breaking, nor have I heard of this... maybe the question should be "why is Ford adding weight and cost where it isn't nessesary?"
Look what happens when they compare the Chevy to the Ford in a twist ditch, the Ford nearly twists over an inch in both directions. What a cheap fucking ploy for Ford, this really makes me angry that they are marketing this cheap bullshit.
@u238fist Exactly, if that smaller bolt was a higher tensile strength steel it could easily handle more than that larger bolt. This test doesn't prove anything, and if that bolt is really aluminum (which it looks like it is) then that's marketing for failure.
@Jutzujin True that buddy. It's basically a size comparison instead of making a strength comparison. I would call a stress test for both bolts or else this video is biased, otherwise ANSI and ASTM has to perform a test before they approve the materials used for assembling. The question is which bolt yields more stress.
@ExtremePeppers, toyota tundra frames where recalled because the rear crossmember of the frame would FALL THE FUCK OUT. how do you make that sound like a good thing mr. dumbass with the toyota. OR the rear driveshaft recall because toyota FORGOT to heat treat the u joint. go watch the crash test videos of the tundras and watch the frame twist and bend, the spare tire even flys out from under it because the cheap stamped 1/8 sheet metal frame bends and contorts even on the rear on a frontal test
@TheTom2301 I've worked on a few fords and I can tell you that most of the suspension especially in the front on a ford truck is aluminum... Plus Toyota is a company that WILL NOT waste thief time and effort in a bolt... Especially when that bolt was a design that worked 20 years ago... If u want to compare trucks, look at engines, milage, transmissions, ect... Not bolts
@BRIGGSandSTRATTONguy aluminum suspension is strong enough but lighter, which gives better handling, and maybe does some extremely minor part in fuel economy. agreement on looking at engines/transmissions, would suggest looking at frames,too, everything in truck rides on them in the end, rams arent too bad, fords are the best, and the rest of the competitions a joke, especially nissan/toyota, but chevs too, and chev is poorest in having framing around engine/fenders at none at all.
@wackyworldvideos34 If Toyota/Nissan frames were a joke, then why are they the only trucks sold world wide and everything else only sold in north america? trust me go to europe or africa. u will never see f150's silverados or rams there they all have toyota hilux and nissan nivara pickups. then again people in europe dont load 5 300 pound bodies and 2kg of materials like these people do.
@BRIGGSandSTRATTONguy Yea it's no big deal it holds the bed down to the frame and the suspension together in one pice.They just hold the truck together thats all.No it's a big thing sorry to tell you.
@MrFordf150xlt ok a bed bolt only holds a bed to a frame. being an experienced toyota mechanic, i can tell you that the suspension has nothing to do with the bed, in fact everythging is mounted on the frame. toyota used to be a recreational truck, now its a serious work horse... toyota has never over engineers anything, everything u find in the tundra is good enough and made to serve you 15+ years of serv ice. then again, everyone makes good cars now, cant leave out that detail.
Bolt size? Really? That's the same kind of pea brained thinking that says thicker metal will result in a higher chance of survival in a wreck. Kind of scared that I live in such a dumb country.
And what they DON'T tell you about is that the Tundra has by far the strongest 1/2 ton rear axle made. It has a 10.5" ring gear plus a semifloat axleshaft design and dropout centersection like the famous Ford 9" rear had.
The strongest 1/2 ton Ford axle offered these days has a 9 3/4" ring gear and a weaker C-clip axleshaft design. Ford's standard 1/2 ton rear axle has an 8.8" ring gear.
I like Fords too (my favorite of the Big 3), but they aren't telling the whole story.
Toyota has a stronger bolt in which case it doesnt need to be longer to make up strenghth... Not rattin on Ford because thier trucks are great, but this is why I drive Toyota...
@bronthing tell that to your special forces, they drive tacomas... i wonder why they don´t drive ford rangers if ford´s so great?... when it comes to reliability nothing beats toyota
They ordered the Chevy bolts and they didn't come in. At least I'm not the only one having trouble getting GM parts. Been waiting 2 weeks for a body control module.
holly crap that bolt is huge that the ford uses is that a frame bolt,and also hell yea i agree fords are badass for all you fellow ford guys out thear look up this vid.FORD SUPER DUTY PULLS A SEMI, you wont be disapointed.i know trhis for shure tho you would never see a pos tundra pulling a semi
Wow all of u are haters what's rong with u the FORD F series is the number one selling truck!!! That's a fact! And it is stronger US made 440 stainless steal coted to prvent rust and that's how the hole truck is made thick!
@mancheskia tell me how exactly toyota makes anything better than ford? i believe the most recent recall on any ford truck would be on the 97 f150 for a small and easy to fix electrical problem? and toyota has had several on all of its product lines in the past few months. i have no respect for anything toyota
@WannaBFoxRacer I wasn't saying that the toyota bolt is any better or any worse as i have not done a side by side comparison. I was simply stating that size doesn't justify a better bolt, you need to look at the grade of bolt, what is it's thread count, so on and so forth. For Instance a Grade 2 Low or Medium Carbon 1/4" thru 3/4" has a tensile strength of approx 74,000 psi vs a Grade 8 Medium Carbon Alloy Steel, Quenched and Tempered 1/4" thru 1/2" has a tensile strength of approx 150,000 psi
@WannaBFoxRacer also you may want to check again with the recall portion because Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Toyota have all had there fair share of recalls from 97 up to present. I believe the electrical problem you speak of was for the explorers starting on fire which was a huge deal back than. Ford already has a recall on there 2011 F150 thru F550 along with many others from 1997 to 2011. Please do you reasearch before spouting off about thing like this.
@WannaBFoxRacer Ford has had some kind of recall on the F150's in 1997 thru 2009 skip 2010 and now already for 2011. Other companies have had recalls also. Recalls are never going to go away with the depand for vehicles and the push the companys are getting to push them out the door. I have owned a Chevy Silverado, a Ford 150 and now a Toyota Tundra all of them have been great trucks. I have liked them all for certain reasons.
@WannaBFoxRacer Same whith Chrylser. The only recalls they have had the last few years were the power sliding doors not working and the Liberty's windows not rolling up. Other than that, no saftey recalls like junk toyjokas. Hell, even all the gas pedals in GM, Ford, and Chrysler is electronic too and I don't see them fucking up like Toyotas did.
Who cares about a bolt size. I have a 1996 Chevy and my work truck is a 94 Ford and the bolts are small. Both trucks have around 120,000 miles and the bolts are fine.
Just playing the devil's advocate here but, he didn't tell us what those 2 bolts are made from. The smaller Toyota bolt could be made from some really string metal and the Ford could be made out of some cheap metal thats not really strong which is why they need such a big bolt. I'm just saying, the size factor here isn't the end all of this story. I would like to know what each bolt is made from.
@jason91078 metal is metal dick wad, ford chev and dodge use carbon steel all around does toyota? no because japan wants things light weight for fuel efficiency
@jason91078 Maybe the larger bolt IS better -- however, if both parts already have sufficient design margin, then a bolt with unusable extra margin is useless. It takes far more engineering talent to design a part that does the job with just enough material to do the job, than to just specify a way bigger than needed part.
@jason91078 We also are not told how many of each bolt are used. Is it 4 of the large ones, vs. 12 of the small ones? Also, what do they weigh? Which have better corrosion resistance? There is not enough information provided here.
@jason91078 Also at 0:55 "...and you can imagine over time the forces that are put on a bolt like THIS, versus a bolt like this...." WTF?! The forces are determined by the bed loading, external to the bolt! Obviously a marketeer; not an engineer.
@jason91078 you know theres a second half to this video where they test the strength...the ford bolt withstands 390 ftlbs of torque and toyota does 219......
Lol i find it hilarious how everyone says ford is better and commercials all saying ford is better than toyota. Bet then i found an ad here on youtube in which ford tells the American consumers that ford is as good as toyota. Really?!? If Ford is SO much better than Toyota then why are they SO DESPERATE to prove theyre better than Toyota? Why is Toyota measuring bar? Why does every car company have to prove theyre better tjan toyota to be considered a good company?
@roley33 either which way you cut it, the Ford F-150 is a far, far, better product than the Toyota Tundra. I'll admit that Toyota makes decent car's but they still have a lot to learn about trucks. I mean, the frame that's in the Tundra is downright laughable, and the build and material quality is absolute garbage compared to the Ford. I think what you're taking about is marketing. It's no different than Ford saying they're better than Chevy.
This is stupid for basing this comparison on size of a bolt...
What they dont tell you is what material each bolt is made out of and how much stress they can handle. Make it a true comparison by testing the strength and rigidity, and not by size.
@JFong0693 theres tons of other thing ut it just goes to show that american trucks are built for hard, heavy duty work and are meant to be put through alot. and the toyotas are for driving around and sayin yeah i got pickuup truck, no i dont use it
They ONLY video about the bolts I want to see is HOW MANY TOYOTA BOLTS FAILED vs HOW MANY FORD BOLTS FAILED vs HOW MANY CHEVY BOLTS FAILED. Judging stuff by comparing the sizes of disassembled vehicle parts is UNPROFESSIONAL. If Toyota's bolts failed more often than other brands, then and ONLY then it tells you SOMETHING. I have an average penis, yet none of my women ever complained... One of the most dangerous things you can do to a car is to make it unnecessarily heavy! Show the FAILURE RATES!
Ford has every reason to be on that "high horse". its called being the best and guessing that you probably own a Tundra youd do the same had your truck been better.... but lets get real Toyota will never build a truck better than the big three. Keep up the rep Ford!
please, ford is hosting this to make fun of tundra, the tundra may have a smaller frame but have it's own benefits (which the ford guy didn't even mention). nether the less, toyota don't even need to make these patectic video's to gain more reputation because they are the best.. and everyone knows it.. here's something for you ford people (FoRd = Found On Rad Dead) don't hate cuz the import industry is taking over
Video means nothing. The size of the bolt doesn"t diminish the strength or placement of it. This is what is most important. I'm not a fan of any of these trucks. I just find this comparison meaningless.
what about comparison of PENIS SIZE between f150, silverado, tundra, titan, ram and sierra owners. go ahead ford, do that comparison ASAP!!!! i'm sure you will win again!!!
this guy is confusing. he is waiting for a Chevy bolt but they took apart a silverado (made by chevy) and a tundra and got the boltS but compares just the Ford and Toyota bolts... meh whatever!!
every engineer will tell you its not in the bolts its in the design the design is where u put the strenth the bolt is there to hold the design together it is not there to support anything.
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Look at the performance record of both automakers. Ford has nothing on Toyota. Hands down, put giant bolts on it, tougher frame, Fords will never last as long as Toyota's. Quality is in the entire vehicle, not the bolts.
thats bullshit..toyota's do not last longer ..i live in pa and tow for a local yota dealership..and behind that very same shop is a pile of frames from being replaced on a 8 year old yota's...ford doesnt have this issue?..and living in PA wich is also coal country..you dont see 1 yota ANYWERE doing any kind of hard labor at all and yes quality is in the whole vehicle...i guess thats why yota toyota is having 2 recalls now..and i'll bet more on the way soon ..toyota's are not supirior
if toyota's quality is in the entire vehicle...does that also include the weak tailgate's they made for their own trucks?..or poor quality frames and cuasing just a 6 year old truck to be junk and taken off the road?..or the self accelerating issue's toyota is having since 2002?...or losing their spare tire and back brakes becuase of the high quality standards they built into their rusty trucks?...living in P A and also living in the coal region..there aint a toyota to be had .toyota sucks
i would say most of that statemant is true. but i find that if u dont use these vehicles they tend to rust out more. look at the frame of my truck in my videos you will not see a single rotted place on it. except the bed which its true i need a new 1 my truck has 23 vehicle history reports and 15 of those are for accidents but the frame is beautiful and still has the factory paint on it. i think its how u use them that depends on the rust issue.
Bolt size doesn't matter if the sheer strength is crap. You take a huge grade 5 bolt and a smaller grade 8 and the grade 8 would take more abuse. Common sense.
Read my comment again. The bolt size doesn't matter in reference to sheer strength. If you have a grade 5 bolt that's one inch in diameter, it won't be as strong as a grade 8 bolt that's 3/4" in diameter. And you shouldn't talk about common "sence" if you can't spell it. ; )
thats bullshit size might impress the average person but that ford bolt is really low quality compared to the tundra bolt you can tell from a computer screen i bet if these bolts were tested the difference would be minor.those ford bolts look like something off a fence post.someone should test these trucks like top gear they blew up a building with an old hilux left it in the sea overnight all kinds of things and it still drives today.ford died in 79 for me its owned by jews now
who cares how big the bolt is? will think about it like this I drive a f-150 that is 15 years old, and the bolt is bigger than the tundras, so after time have my bolts broken, no has my box been loaded, and been hauling for a full 275,000+kms and is still like new, yes, can you drop a fridge from a one story building flat, and know your bed wont snap, yes, Tundras are a joke, Chevy and Dodge, are better, and Ford has some of the highest mileage out there. great trannys.
michalbroz, bolt size in a vehicle designed for taking a beating at every critical point in its frame, is a very critical issue. Also, last I checked, Ford didn't accept bailout money like Chrysler and GM did, nor did they report a record making 7.7 billion dollar quarterly loss like Toyota has. Oh, and for any pro Toyota people - check your floormats lately? They've been recalled as a safety issue due.
Get your facts straight before you claim someone's closing their doors.
Yes. Its not engine, its not comfort its not safety its not quality its not design its not price its not service. Buy our car because of bolt size. Soon well see video: Buy our car because we are closing.
its the whole package of the truck which ford is just plain better i dont think people are gonna say oh jeese this trucks got a big leaf spring bolt better buy this one
quit being a fag. the japs think that lighter is better. well that's not true for truck frames. if you watch ANY video on speed bumps, you would know that the tundra bed wiggles like nobody's business
@atgskater14 Just because a gay guy like you sucks dick, that doesn't mean Toyota or anyone else does. Behaviors like the dick sucking you do isn't a common behavior among human males.
Instead of actually coming up with logic, sound reasoning, or facts, you could only make a DUMB and IMMATURE statement like that. This PROVES that you have NOTHING based on logic, based on sound reasoning, or factual to say to actually use to discuss the topic of the video.
remember you said that next time you or someone you know needs a tow....or something heavy moved or dragged out of the way ...or get something delivered to your house...most likely it will be a ford doing the work..or tow.....or heavy hauling
shit..were i live there is no such thing of a toyota lasting longer then maybe 10 years ..and why did yota have a buy back on there rusty frames ?/ford GM and mopar[never] had this issue, but just toyota..cheap engineering from toyota
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I dont care what anyone says, the toyota is the better truck, and it has way more pulling power, its faster, its more efficient, has better styling, and way better quality. Its much better for all uses pretty much.
Oh and by the way, just because that bolt is big that doesnt mean its strong
Toyota trying to sell their vehicles based on their outstanding reputation, plus the Toyota was designed for the family grocery getter. Ford is designed to be used in severe environments like towing and farm use, which is the reason we own a Ford, and it is handy as a grocery getter too! I'll choose a Ford thank you!
well my brother's toyota didn't last long enough for all of that to brake. the piece of shit rusted out. just leave it to ford to make trucks. toyota and nissan think that they can jump into the buisness and act like they've been making trucks forever
cant compare american built trucks to japan built trucks. american trucks are more of a work horse compared to to toyota or nissan, ive owned ford car since i was around 18, thye might be bult like shit, but its easy to maintain and cheaper to fix, i have a 2008 f350 harley i just brought and its amazing, many changed through out the yrs...
SO? the profits from that truck go right to japan. Also most of toyotas cars are built in japan. 90% of the big three's cars are built here in america.
How much profit is made from a Tundra? You gotta consider the sell on the truck, which pays for parts, transport of parts, transportation costs, assembly, transport to dealership, transportation costs, depreciation sitting on the lot, insurancing during transportation, the dealership itself along with all respectable employees, and marketing. There isn't much profit there. Hell, you pay more on SALES TAXES (which goes to the American government) than any money you see go towards Toyota's profits
more profit then you know. In japan they can make a car for up to $10,000 less than they can make here. I am sure atleast $3000 goes back to japan with every toyota car bought.
In Japan, yes. In the United States, no. Because there are American branches of Toyota here in the United States that have utility bills, taxes, licensing, and employees to pay. That comes out of the final sales profit made from a vehicle, or at least calculated from. I guarentee you pay more on the sales tax of a Toyota or Nissan vehicle than you pay for the revenue that goes back to foriegn soil.
and the big 3 have that also ...thats called over head ..after all the bills are paid you are left with profit...and all in all..toyota has more of our money and they dont need anymore of it ..they probably have more money then the big 3 put together ..i know i wouldnt not give money to a japanese company that donted nothing and turned there backs to us when 9/11 happened ..ford GM and mopar gave...toyota and honda nothing ..so screw the japanese and i dont care how many americans they employ
You know 9/11 is a touchy subject, so please don't bring it up.
Okay, yeah you're right. SCREW THE JAPS AND THE HARD WORKING AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THEM BECAUSE THE BIG 3 ARE BROKE AND THE JAPS ARE SELFISH!...Your kind of thought process makes me sick, seriously. Fuck you and all others who think like you. Where Ford, Chrystler, and GM laid off THOUSANDS of working American tax payers who have familes to feed, Toyota, Honda, and Nissan took them in. I won't look down on them for that.
thats right fuck the japs...its mostly there fault the big 3 are losing money becuase of the bullshitted americans who believe there shit is better then anything we can make ..thats so out dated thinking...so yeah ..fuck them ...did we forget about pearl harbor??...and the torture they put our ppl threw?...ok..your right...lets hand them this country over them ...and we will keep working for them like we keep doing..fuck them and the money they take out of this country..ASSHOLE'S
Hrmmm, "let's hand this country over to them"...I don't know where you got that from cuz I sure as hell didn't say that.
Here's how things go. American corporate heads employ for less so they can make more and pay for their DEBTS. The employees can't afford to spend a lot. The Japanese are willing to stoop low to sell for cheap by employing cheap labor. So just to LIVE and feed their FAMILIES, Americans are forced to buy inexpensive. I don't care who you are, you know that part is true.
the big 3 pay there employee's more money then what toyota or honda and the rest of them pay the same auto workers to do the same job at youta or honda , but having the UAW there also hurts the US auto workers ....so if anything..the big 3 pay there employee's more then the american japanese counter part
Well any maker who makes outside their respected origins will pay their employees less. Look at the big 3. How much do you think they pay Canadian and Mexican employees? FAR LESS than what American auto makers of American name vehicles make.
sure..thats true ...i am just saying compair ford of usa to toyota of usa..and the toyota employee's get less money for the same job, but one huge reason for that is the U A W ..and that is working against them though
Well of course, and even though Ford has yet to ask for federal financial help it's because of the 12,000 union salaried employees they let go and continued building in Mexico. Sadly, that number is going up. I do understand why they did that. It was either lay off 12,000 and continue to build by reducing the cost in labor while still maintaining a certain profit margin, or file for government aid and let all assets go.
one big problem wit the big 3 is,,,,you have probably 5 fat employee's installing rear tire's on a car ..[becuase of the UAW] and toyota has 1 employee doing the same for less money ...and now that way of life for for the big is comming to an end so of coarse they made a choice to go to mexico for less money ..and i dont know if mexico has the UAW there ...so i guess ford is learning to [trim the fat] ..and they seem to manage money better then GM or mopar
Well the big 3 is realising they can't pay their employees so much because there is competition, and the competition is the person who is willing to sell a vehicle for less. It's not just Toyota they have to worry about, but themselves. Look how long Dodge, Ford, and GM have been trying to gain dominance over one another. Seriously the only way to sell something to your average American is to put more than average stuff in it for less than average price.
thats is compitition between the big 3 , but its very hard for the big 3 to compete with toyota on price is becuase of the UAW ..toyota pay's employee's less then the big 3and toyota does not have the UAW to interfear with operations ..yota can make a car less and sell for cheaper then the big3 and one huge reason is becuase of the UAW ...the UAW needs to get out or at least step aside and let the big 3 servive , but most ppl who work there still want more and dont want to get rid of the union
BULLSHITTT that doesn't mean anything see which one lasts longer or wears out parts faster i bet you it wont be the toyota
dash11111111 3 weeks ago
@dash11111111 Bet it will. Toyota will be taken back to the dealer because of a bent frame if you use it like a truck.
OleStephens 1 week ago
@OleStephens how so? its a perfect truck for everything from construction to off roading... tundra has an amazing balance of fuel economy, power, and durability. ask someone you know who drives one.
BRIGGSandSTRATTONguy 1 week ago
@BRIGGSandSTRATTONguy Perfect? For what I do, not a chance. I'm not going to lie, when you only need a truck to get from point a to b with nothing more than some ATV's or a boat, they may be fine, but for real work, no. Our Superduty's are constantly towing 25+k everyday. We use them fro real work, something a Toyota cannot be used for, we've tried and I had to pull a trencher home with my F150 because my brother's 09 Tundra bent it's frame trying to get out of the driveway.
OleStephens 1 week ago
@OleStephens sorry dude but you do not have a legvit argument. a superduty is a 3/4 ton and a tundra is a half ton. and now a days everyone makes a good truck, car suv, ect. and if i wanted to put 10k pounds opn the back of a 390 hp tundra it would do it. speak to someone who has done it (me). if a frame is built to handle a huge v8 its imbosible to bent a frame with boat of something.. if you try to but 25k pounds on a 1/2 ton truck u have no common sense. come again with a good argument.
BRIGGSandSTRATTONguy 1 day ago
its funny how these morons get on here and say the bolt size doesnt matter and the fords bolt is probably weaker anyway. watch the 2nd video you fools
pistonkiller7 1 month ago
Bolts arnt like dick size...So bigger isnt better all the time
nathan12111 2 months ago
NANA-NANA NANAAA...
My bolt is bigger than yours...
madmaxd1 2 months ago 2
i really cant take any of these videos seriously....there all biased
oaeproductions 2 months ago
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE...stop saying "bolt size doesn't matter,tensile strength,yadayada" and watch the second half of this video..ford bolt withstands almost 2x the torque.
slingblade1991 2 months ago
first of all bolt size is not everything,it bolt strenght,tinsle strenght.just because a bolt is one size smaller doesnt mean everything.so why did they show the chevy bolt,you need to up date your vid,show tinsle strenght and size,fuckin ford always only tellin half the story
Mr1963chevy 2 months ago
@Mr1963chevy go watch the second half of this video......
slingblade1991 2 months ago
Ford marketing is at it again. The strength of the bolt is what matters not how big it is. If they had engineers worth a damn at Ford they would know that. Instead the have a bolt that is three times too big for the load. No wonder the F-150 is so slow off the line compared to the Tundra. Congratulations Ford you made a brick with wheels. Very impressive.
jteague238 3 months ago
I've never had an issue with a leaf spring bolt breaking, nor have I heard of this... maybe the question should be "why is Ford adding weight and cost where it isn't nessesary?"
BobFromFinance 3 months ago
Look what happens when they compare the Chevy to the Ford in a twist ditch, the Ford nearly twists over an inch in both directions. What a cheap fucking ploy for Ford, this really makes me angry that they are marketing this cheap bullshit.
Jutzujin 3 months ago
We are not talking about the size. It is all about tensile strength.
u238fist 4 months ago 2
@u238fist Exactly, if that smaller bolt was a higher tensile strength steel it could easily handle more than that larger bolt. This test doesn't prove anything, and if that bolt is really aluminum (which it looks like it is) then that's marketing for failure.
Jutzujin 3 months ago
@Jutzujin True that buddy. It's basically a size comparison instead of making a strength comparison. I would call a stress test for both bolts or else this video is biased, otherwise ANSI and ASTM has to perform a test before they approve the materials used for assembling. The question is which bolt yields more stress.
u238fist 3 months ago
so where were the chevy bolts?
JuggaloDebo 5 months ago
Lets see the top of each bolt so we can determine what GRADE each bolt is. Then we can make assumptions on which leaf spring bolts are better!
dttr1221 6 months ago 2
@alexandrescooter oh are they?..well when you need a tow ..just think ..it wont be a toyota to come help you...it will be an american truck...
390merc65 6 months ago
Jap crap... ;)
NPEVIE 6 months ago
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doomsk8er 6 months ago
just because the bolts r bigger does not mean that they r better. the smaller ones r still just as strong
TheClassicplastic 6 months ago
affcoars they are going to have recalls becuase the are cheap quality. i owne a ford but its not the best quality either.
thecool11223344 6 months ago
@ExtremePeppers, toyota tundra frames where recalled because the rear crossmember of the frame would FALL THE FUCK OUT. how do you make that sound like a good thing mr. dumbass with the toyota. OR the rear driveshaft recall because toyota FORGOT to heat treat the u joint. go watch the crash test videos of the tundras and watch the frame twist and bend, the spare tire even flys out from under it because the cheap stamped 1/8 sheet metal frame bends and contorts even on the rear on a frontal test
123abcpa 7 months ago
@TheTom2301 I've worked on a few fords and I can tell you that most of the suspension especially in the front on a ford truck is aluminum... Plus Toyota is a company that WILL NOT waste thief time and effort in a bolt... Especially when that bolt was a design that worked 20 years ago... If u want to compare trucks, look at engines, milage, transmissions, ect... Not bolts
BRIGGSandSTRATTONguy 7 months ago 9
@BRIGGSandSTRATTONguy aluminum suspension is strong enough but lighter, which gives better handling, and maybe does some extremely minor part in fuel economy. agreement on looking at engines/transmissions, would suggest looking at frames,too, everything in truck rides on them in the end, rams arent too bad, fords are the best, and the rest of the competitions a joke, especially nissan/toyota, but chevs too, and chev is poorest in having framing around engine/fenders at none at all.
wackyworldvideos34 1 month ago
@wackyworldvideos34 If Toyota/Nissan frames were a joke, then why are they the only trucks sold world wide and everything else only sold in north america? trust me go to europe or africa. u will never see f150's silverados or rams there they all have toyota hilux and nissan nivara pickups. then again people in europe dont load 5 300 pound bodies and 2kg of materials like these people do.
BRIGGSandSTRATTONguy 1 month ago
@BRIGGSandSTRATTONguy Yea it's no big deal it holds the bed down to the frame and the suspension together in one pice.They just hold the truck together thats all.No it's a big thing sorry to tell you.
MrFordf150xlt 1 week ago
@MrFordf150xlt ok a bed bolt only holds a bed to a frame. being an experienced toyota mechanic, i can tell you that the suspension has nothing to do with the bed, in fact everythging is mounted on the frame. toyota used to be a recreational truck, now its a serious work horse... toyota has never over engineers anything, everything u find in the tundra is good enough and made to serve you 15+ years of serv ice. then again, everyone makes good cars now, cant leave out that detail.
BRIGGSandSTRATTONguy 1 week ago
Bolt size? Really? That's the same kind of pea brained thinking that says thicker metal will result in a higher chance of survival in a wreck. Kind of scared that I live in such a dumb country.
doomsk8er 7 months ago
Just showing bolt sizes don't prove nothing.Whats the hardness and alloy composition,what Grade and so on??
I've snapped bigger bolts where Smaller bolts held up more,its how its made,bigger is not always better :)
chucka59 7 months ago
Toyota is money out the country, Ford is money to the devil. Take your prick. I drive a Hiace lol.
sangolt88 8 months ago
@bohemiachris True.
And what they DON'T tell you about is that the Tundra has by far the strongest 1/2 ton rear axle made. It has a 10.5" ring gear plus a semifloat axleshaft design and dropout centersection like the famous Ford 9" rear had.
The strongest 1/2 ton Ford axle offered these days has a 9 3/4" ring gear and a weaker C-clip axleshaft design. Ford's standard 1/2 ton rear axle has an 8.8" ring gear.
I like Fords too (my favorite of the Big 3), but they aren't telling the whole story.
WKHalford 9 months ago
"it's bigger, so it must be better", haha dumb ford-loving hicks
JtotheV92 10 months ago 4
Ford and Chevy are tools, Toyota is an ornament
manoman0 11 months ago
FORD WERE THE LEADER!!!!!!!!
sornbergerfarms 11 months ago
Toyota Bolts = Tempered steel
Ford Bolts = Cast Aluminum
Toyota has a stronger bolt in which case it doesnt need to be longer to make up strenghth... Not rattin on Ford because thier trucks are great, but this is why I drive Toyota...
BRIGGSandSTRATTONguy 1 year ago 3
@BRIGGSandSTRATTONguy those bolts are steel dumbass
TheTom2301 7 months ago
TOYOTA=COMMUNISM
bronthing 1 year ago
@bronthing tell that to your special forces, they drive tacomas... i wonder why they don´t drive ford rangers if ford´s so great?... when it comes to reliability nothing beats toyota
brujonagual 8 months ago
They ordered the Chevy bolts and they didn't come in. At least I'm not the only one having trouble getting GM parts. Been waiting 2 weeks for a body control module.
motownrocker71 1 year ago
@motownrocker71 thats cause they gotta send it in from china.
phl95 7 months ago
holly crap that bolt is huge that the ford uses is that a frame bolt,and also hell yea i agree fords are badass for all you fellow ford guys out thear look up this vid.FORD SUPER DUTY PULLS A SEMI, you wont be disapointed.i know trhis for shure tho you would never see a pos tundra pulling a semi
thunderbird948 1 year ago
Wow all of u are haters what's rong with u the FORD F series is the number one selling truck!!! That's a fact! And it is stronger US made 440 stainless steal coted to prvent rust and that's how the hole truck is made thick!
JOHNNYSschool 1 year ago
this guy is a dumbass, just because you use bigger bolts doesnt mean you need them, they are just for bragging
austin32m 1 year ago
Ford is Bad nuff said
therko7 1 year ago
Who cares about bolt size what grade bolts are they. size doesn't mean shit when you got a low quality bolt vs a higher quality.
mancheskia 1 year ago
@mancheskia tell me how exactly toyota makes anything better than ford? i believe the most recent recall on any ford truck would be on the 97 f150 for a small and easy to fix electrical problem? and toyota has had several on all of its product lines in the past few months. i have no respect for anything toyota
WannaBFoxRacer 1 year ago
@WannaBFoxRacer I wasn't saying that the toyota bolt is any better or any worse as i have not done a side by side comparison. I was simply stating that size doesn't justify a better bolt, you need to look at the grade of bolt, what is it's thread count, so on and so forth. For Instance a Grade 2 Low or Medium Carbon 1/4" thru 3/4" has a tensile strength of approx 74,000 psi vs a Grade 8 Medium Carbon Alloy Steel, Quenched and Tempered 1/4" thru 1/2" has a tensile strength of approx 150,000 psi
mancheskia 1 year ago
@WannaBFoxRacer also you may want to check again with the recall portion because Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Toyota have all had there fair share of recalls from 97 up to present. I believe the electrical problem you speak of was for the explorers starting on fire which was a huge deal back than. Ford already has a recall on there 2011 F150 thru F550 along with many others from 1997 to 2011. Please do you reasearch before spouting off about thing like this.
mancheskia 1 year ago
@WannaBFoxRacer Ford has had some kind of recall on the F150's in 1997 thru 2009 skip 2010 and now already for 2011. Other companies have had recalls also. Recalls are never going to go away with the depand for vehicles and the push the companys are getting to push them out the door. I have owned a Chevy Silverado, a Ford 150 and now a Toyota Tundra all of them have been great trucks. I have liked them all for certain reasons.
mancheskia 1 year ago
@WannaBFoxRacer Same whith Chrylser. The only recalls they have had the last few years were the power sliding doors not working and the Liberty's windows not rolling up. Other than that, no saftey recalls like junk toyjokas. Hell, even all the gas pedals in GM, Ford, and Chrysler is electronic too and I don't see them fucking up like Toyotas did.
522viper 1 year ago
Who cares about a bolt size. I have a 1996 Chevy and my work truck is a 94 Ford and the bolts are small. Both trucks have around 120,000 miles and the bolts are fine.
ago1219 1 year ago 2
Just playing the devil's advocate here but, he didn't tell us what those 2 bolts are made from. The smaller Toyota bolt could be made from some really string metal and the Ford could be made out of some cheap metal thats not really strong which is why they need such a big bolt. I'm just saying, the size factor here isn't the end all of this story. I would like to know what each bolt is made from.
jason91078 1 year ago 33
@jason91078 Okay just saw there's a second video which elaborates on the topic.
jason91078 1 year ago
@jason91078 metal is metal dick wad, ford chev and dodge use carbon steel all around does toyota? no because japan wants things light weight for fuel efficiency
onionman113 6 months ago
@onionman113 Why so defensive dude?
jason91078 6 months ago
@jason91078 cuz it's true.
onionman113 6 months ago
@jason91078 Maybe the larger bolt IS better -- however, if both parts already have sufficient design margin, then a bolt with unusable extra margin is useless. It takes far more engineering talent to design a part that does the job with just enough material to do the job, than to just specify a way bigger than needed part.
fenderstratguy 5 months ago
@jason91078 We also are not told how many of each bolt are used. Is it 4 of the large ones, vs. 12 of the small ones? Also, what do they weigh? Which have better corrosion resistance? There is not enough information provided here.
fenderstratguy 5 months ago
@jason91078 Also at 0:55 "...and you can imagine over time the forces that are put on a bolt like THIS, versus a bolt like this...." WTF?! The forces are determined by the bed loading, external to the bolt! Obviously a marketeer; not an engineer.
fenderstratguy 5 months ago
@jason91078 what you just said doesnt really matter in this, watch?v=sPfvOPAUIgw&feature=relmfu
goldeneye4564 5 months ago
@jason91078 The Fords is made out of hardened steel, don't know 'bout the ricer though.
AMERICANTIMBERWOLF10 4 months ago
@jason91078 you know theres a second half to this video where they test the strength...the ford bolt withstands 390 ftlbs of torque and toyota does 219......
slingblade1991 2 months ago
Lol i find it hilarious how everyone says ford is better and commercials all saying ford is better than toyota. Bet then i found an ad here on youtube in which ford tells the American consumers that ford is as good as toyota. Really?!? If Ford is SO much better than Toyota then why are they SO DESPERATE to prove theyre better than Toyota? Why is Toyota measuring bar? Why does every car company have to prove theyre better tjan toyota to be considered a good company?
roley33 1 year ago
@roley33 either which way you cut it, the Ford F-150 is a far, far, better product than the Toyota Tundra. I'll admit that Toyota makes decent car's but they still have a lot to learn about trucks. I mean, the frame that's in the Tundra is downright laughable, and the build and material quality is absolute garbage compared to the Ford. I think what you're taking about is marketing. It's no different than Ford saying they're better than Chevy.
lariatfx 1 year ago
@roley33 very strong abservation point taken
hank01 1 year ago
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@roley33 very strong abservation point taken good job kid
hank01 1 year ago
@hank01 Aww thats cute!
roley33 1 year ago
until now they still don't have that chevy bolts that they had ordered. it's already 3 years!
stoneroses13 1 year ago
All of my mechanic friends tell me that Ford is the Cadillac of trucks.
TomOzzy123 1 year ago
Ford sucks ass
4FOOT13 1 year ago
the heck it doesnt matter size bolts do rust and wear down over time
TheChevy4life 1 year ago
who cares how big your bolts are, how big r ur nuts.
phatrides222000 1 year ago
the next ford f150 bolts will be the size of baseball bat
stoneroses13 1 year ago
the tundra bolts its grade 5, don't matter the size,
charlsg75 1 year ago
@charlsg75 watch bolt size part 2 theyr weak too, ford's bolts are grade 12, where toyotas tiny littel bolts hold nothing.
laxfreak2828 1 year ago
This is stupid for basing this comparison on size of a bolt...
What they dont tell you is what material each bolt is made out of and how much stress they can handle. Make it a true comparison by testing the strength and rigidity, and not by size.
JFong0693 1 year ago
@JFong0693 theres tons of other thing ut it just goes to show that american trucks are built for hard, heavy duty work and are meant to be put through alot. and the toyotas are for driving around and sayin yeah i got pickuup truck, no i dont use it
cheergal2000 1 year ago
oh yeah my chevy has a bigger penis than your ford, get real ford show me when a leaf spring bolt has broken
sayer308 1 year ago
All the bolts are Grade 8 carbon steel.
don3751 1 year ago
it wont be grade 8. it will be a 10.8 bolt... they are metric on these new trucks... though i still believe they are carbon steel.
exile907 1 year ago
@exile907 The ford is an 11.9 grade bolt. Saw it on the bolt head on a brand new
F-150.
Broadcastbuddy2 1 year ago
@Broadcastbuddy2 whoa, good deal. on my explorer the drive train bolts are 12.9... im fairly sure ill never have to replace them...
exile907 1 year ago
They ONLY video about the bolts I want to see is HOW MANY TOYOTA BOLTS FAILED vs HOW MANY FORD BOLTS FAILED vs HOW MANY CHEVY BOLTS FAILED. Judging stuff by comparing the sizes of disassembled vehicle parts is UNPROFESSIONAL. If Toyota's bolts failed more often than other brands, then and ONLY then it tells you SOMETHING. I have an average penis, yet none of my women ever complained... One of the most dangerous things you can do to a car is to make it unnecessarily heavy! Show the FAILURE RATES!
jakubkrcma 2 years ago
@arcticman1000
Ford has every reason to be on that "high horse". its called being the best and guessing that you probably own a Tundra youd do the same had your truck been better.... but lets get real Toyota will never build a truck better than the big three. Keep up the rep Ford!
buyAmerican92 2 years ago 4
who is better big penis or the small one......
ali28790 2 years ago
lol chevys are complete trash
UnearthAlex 2 years ago
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please, ford is hosting this to make fun of tundra, the tundra may have a smaller frame but have it's own benefits (which the ford guy didn't even mention). nether the less, toyota don't even need to make these patectic video's to gain more reputation because they are the best.. and everyone knows it.. here's something for you ford people (FoRd = Found On Rad Dead) don't hate cuz the import industry is taking over
thunderxt 2 years ago
Video means nothing. The size of the bolt doesn"t diminish the strength or placement of it. This is what is most important. I'm not a fan of any of these trucks. I just find this comparison meaningless.
stretchesplace 2 years ago
toyota sucks. i know people are gunna like comment back about this but just so you know i dont give a shit.
glassweiner 2 years ago
what about comparison of PENIS SIZE between f150, silverado, tundra, titan, ram and sierra owners. go ahead ford, do that comparison ASAP!!!! i'm sure you will win again!!!
stoneroses13 2 years ago 25
@stoneroses13 wouldn't doubt it, my dicks huge.
awh21 1 year ago 2
@awh21 hahaha
benchn280 1 year ago
@stoneroses13 no F-150, silverado, ram, and sierra will win. Foreign truck suck dick
FDD2012 6 months ago
@stoneroses13
ford's dick is supersized, the competitions dick is two fries
adam55671 6 months ago
this guy is confusing. he is waiting for a Chevy bolt but they took apart a silverado (made by chevy) and a tundra and got the boltS but compares just the Ford and Toyota bolts... meh whatever!!
Ainaloa 2 years ago
Thats because the Chevy bolts are so big they can't carry them to the table, LOL.
Just joking, but really, the Chevy bolts are about the same as the Toyota bolts.
hurricanefloyd1 2 years ago
my Silverado 01 has no rust
lordcrusade 2 years ago
every engineer will tell you its not in the bolts its in the design the design is where u put the strenth the bolt is there to hold the design together it is not there to support anything.
1tonyota 2 years ago
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Look at the performance record of both automakers. Ford has nothing on Toyota. Hands down, put giant bolts on it, tougher frame, Fords will never last as long as Toyota's. Quality is in the entire vehicle, not the bolts.
85Yoter1 2 years ago
thats bullshit..toyota's do not last longer ..i live in pa and tow for a local yota dealership..and behind that very same shop is a pile of frames from being replaced on a 8 year old yota's...ford doesnt have this issue?..and living in PA wich is also coal country..you dont see 1 yota ANYWERE doing any kind of hard labor at all and yes quality is in the whole vehicle...i guess thats why yota toyota is having 2 recalls now..and i'll bet more on the way soon ..toyota's are not supirior
390merc65 2 years ago
if toyota's quality is in the entire vehicle...does that also include the weak tailgate's they made for their own trucks?..or poor quality frames and cuasing just a 6 year old truck to be junk and taken off the road?..or the self accelerating issue's toyota is having since 2002?...or losing their spare tire and back brakes becuase of the high quality standards they built into their rusty trucks?...living in P A and also living in the coal region..there aint a toyota to be had .toyota sucks
390merc65 2 years ago
which part of pa im in quecreek.
1tonyota 2 years ago
eastern pa...
390merc65 2 years ago
i would say most of that statemant is true. but i find that if u dont use these vehicles they tend to rust out more. look at the frame of my truck in my videos you will not see a single rotted place on it. except the bed which its true i need a new 1 my truck has 23 vehicle history reports and 15 of those are for accidents but the frame is beautiful and still has the factory paint on it. i think its how u use them that depends on the rust issue.
1tonyota 2 years ago
i live in pottsville so obviously we're not far but like i said its only the 01 models.
ZGILBERT93 2 years ago
pottsville huh ...geeze..were almost nieghbors ..have a yuengling for me ..and a dozen of MRS T'S pierogie's
390merc65 2 years ago
lol yuengling yes. pierogies...no lol where u from
ZGILBERT93 2 years ago
who can be from the county and not like pierogie's ????...maybe its time for a screamer??..i am from the area ...
390merc65 2 years ago
@390merc65 lol i like pierogies just dont got um in the freezer. beer is in the fridge tho
ZGILBERT93 2 years ago
what guy from koo koo county dont got MRS.T'S in the fridge..i hear ya thou on the beer ....good old pottsville piss water
straight from the run off from frackville ..and ST.Clair too ....462 da fuck
390merc65 2 years ago
Bolt size doesn't matter if the sheer strength is crap. You take a huge grade 5 bolt and a smaller grade 8 and the grade 8 would take more abuse. Common sense.
dirtydave931 2 years ago
@dirtydave931 sure it does, 15 years from now that smaller bolt could rust away faster than the for one... common sence
markrua4 2 years ago
Read my comment again. The bolt size doesn't matter in reference to sheer strength. If you have a grade 5 bolt that's one inch in diameter, it won't be as strong as a grade 8 bolt that's 3/4" in diameter. And you shouldn't talk about common "sence" if you can't spell it. ; )
dirtydave931 2 years ago
What?? A grade 5 bolt will rust away much quicker than a grade 8 bolt buddy.
It's Common sen"S"e! haha
GearHead156 2 years ago
thats bullshit size might impress the average person but that ford bolt is really low quality compared to the tundra bolt you can tell from a computer screen i bet if these bolts were tested the difference would be minor.those ford bolts look like something off a fence post.someone should test these trucks like top gear they blew up a building with an old hilux left it in the sea overnight all kinds of things and it still drives today.ford died in 79 for me its owned by jews now
560287144602817 2 years ago 2
who cares how big the bolt is? will think about it like this I drive a f-150 that is 15 years old, and the bolt is bigger than the tundras, so after time have my bolts broken, no has my box been loaded, and been hauling for a full 275,000+kms and is still like new, yes, can you drop a fridge from a one story building flat, and know your bed wont snap, yes, Tundras are a joke, Chevy and Dodge, are better, and Ford has some of the highest mileage out there. great trannys.
Fordman06777 2 years ago
michalbroz, bolt size in a vehicle designed for taking a beating at every critical point in its frame, is a very critical issue. Also, last I checked, Ford didn't accept bailout money like Chrysler and GM did, nor did they report a record making 7.7 billion dollar quarterly loss like Toyota has. Oh, and for any pro Toyota people - check your floormats lately? They've been recalled as a safety issue due.
Get your facts straight before you claim someone's closing their doors.
samuraiinblack 2 years ago 2
Yes. Its not engine, its not comfort its not safety its not quality its not design its not price its not service. Buy our car because of bolt size. Soon well see video: Buy our car because we are closing.
michalbroz 2 years ago
BOlts .... OMG and WHAT ????
acALIEN 2 years ago
ya im going to have to go with th ford cus they make the best trucks out there toyota needs to stick to making cars.
ford42069 2 years ago
ok i like ford way better than toyota cuz tundras are shit but who the fuck cares how big the damn bolt is
stanleytherat 2 years ago
Because when you use the truck for WORK these bolts make all the difference in how well the truck holds up.
Is anything going on up there?
HaleFire7 2 years ago 2
its the whole package of the truck which ford is just plain better i dont think people are gonna say oh jeese this trucks got a big leaf spring bolt better buy this one
stanleytherat 2 years ago 3
Yeah you're right, I don't look under the trucks and measure their bolts haha. These videos show why the ford trucks hold up so well though.
In a day when everyone buys toyotas and hondas because they THINK they're better, Ford has to do these sorts of things.
HaleFire7 2 years ago 2
yea pretty pathetic though, people need to get a clue bout wat trucks they buy (american or nothing :)
stanleytherat 2 years ago 4
quit being a fag. the japs think that lighter is better. well that's not true for truck frames. if you watch ANY video on speed bumps, you would know that the tundra bed wiggles like nobody's business
thewhofan99 2 years ago
toyota sucks dick
atgskater14 2 years ago 33
@atgskater14 Just because a gay guy like you sucks dick, that doesn't mean Toyota or anyone else does. Behaviors like the dick sucking you do isn't a common behavior among human males.
Instead of actually coming up with logic, sound reasoning, or facts, you could only make a DUMB and IMMATURE statement like that. This PROVES that you have NOTHING based on logic, based on sound reasoning, or factual to say to actually use to discuss the topic of the video.
WKHalford 8 months ago 2
remember you said that next time you or someone you know needs a tow....or something heavy moved or dragged out of the way ...or get something delivered to your house...most likely it will be a ford doing the work..or tow.....or heavy hauling
shit..were i live there is no such thing of a toyota lasting longer then maybe 10 years ..and why did yota have a buy back on there rusty frames ?/ford GM and mopar[never] had this issue, but just toyota..cheap engineering from toyota
390merc65 2 years ago
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I dont care what anyone says, the toyota is the better truck, and it has way more pulling power, its faster, its more efficient, has better styling, and way better quality. Its much better for all uses pretty much.
Oh and by the way, just because that bolt is big that doesnt mean its strong
5spd5thgen 2 years ago
quality.... have you seen the videos on the right...
bolt size does make a difference in long term durability
Inv4derxXx 2 years ago
Toyota trying to sell their vehicles based on their outstanding reputation, plus the Toyota was designed for the family grocery getter. Ford is designed to be used in severe environments like towing and farm use, which is the reason we own a Ford, and it is handy as a grocery getter too! I'll choose a Ford thank you!
eighthof8 2 years ago
i've had bad experiences with fords, gm, & chrystler cars. the last ford i had was an explorer. just a few things that went wrong with it:
-both back electric window motors broke
-the molding on the passenger door fell off 3x
-the molding under the driver side fell off
-the transmission went at only 42k miles
-the air conditioner stopped working
-the radio stopped working
serviced the thing regularly and didn't beat it. sold it after 56k miles on it. i'll be sticking with imports from now on.
tlv156 2 years ago
well my brother's toyota didn't last long enough for all of that to brake. the piece of shit rusted out. just leave it to ford to make trucks. toyota and nissan think that they can jump into the buisness and act like they've been making trucks forever
thewhofan99 2 years ago
10 bucks says the ford bolt is made from pot metal.
dirkdigler21 2 years ago
20 bucks says the toyota bolt is made out of korea from plastic
390merc65 2 years ago
Fords are junk they are a fire hazard!!!
jasonnb20 2 years ago
Sorry people...no such thing as a true American Car/Truck. Get over it!!
blowbyu187 2 years ago
if the ford bolts not as strong as the toyota bolt then toyota wins
solarlightning 2 years ago
Wow! If your Johnson was bigger but could not get hard would you still want it, would it be useful?
dickthebigone 2 years ago
they may be assembled in U.S but the parts are not made here
HeartJager88 2 years ago
this show need more lights on,,,
video is too dark
bestamerica 2 years ago
dont give up the fight USA CARS ALL THE WAAY
1NTERGALACTIC 2 years ago
cant compare american built trucks to japan built trucks. american trucks are more of a work horse compared to to toyota or nissan, ive owned ford car since i was around 18, thye might be bult like shit, but its easy to maintain and cheaper to fix, i have a 2008 f350 harley i just brought and its amazing, many changed through out the yrs...
serts021 2 years ago
The Tundra is 100% built in America. That is more than ANY of the big three can say about their trucks.
wikiwikiwildwest 2 years ago
bull shit they say made in japan on the wind shield
USCisgay 2 years ago
False USC, the ONLY Tundra assembly plants in the world are in the US.
wikiwikiwildwest 2 years ago 2
SO? the profits from that truck go right to japan. Also most of toyotas cars are built in japan. 90% of the big three's cars are built here in america.
mooserman911 2 years ago
How much profit is made from a Tundra? You gotta consider the sell on the truck, which pays for parts, transport of parts, transportation costs, assembly, transport to dealership, transportation costs, depreciation sitting on the lot, insurancing during transportation, the dealership itself along with all respectable employees, and marketing. There isn't much profit there. Hell, you pay more on SALES TAXES (which goes to the American government) than any money you see go towards Toyota's profits
phattacorider 2 years ago
more profit then you know. In japan they can make a car for up to $10,000 less than they can make here. I am sure atleast $3000 goes back to japan with every toyota car bought.
mooserman911 2 years ago
In Japan, yes. In the United States, no. Because there are American branches of Toyota here in the United States that have utility bills, taxes, licensing, and employees to pay. That comes out of the final sales profit made from a vehicle, or at least calculated from. I guarentee you pay more on the sales tax of a Toyota or Nissan vehicle than you pay for the revenue that goes back to foriegn soil.
phattacorider 2 years ago
i can't not agree with that, but you know that some money goes back to japan.
mooserman911 2 years ago
and the big 3 have that also ...thats called over head ..after all the bills are paid you are left with profit...and all in all..toyota has more of our money and they dont need anymore of it ..they probably have more money then the big 3 put together ..i know i wouldnt not give money to a japanese company that donted nothing and turned there backs to us when 9/11 happened ..ford GM and mopar gave...toyota and honda nothing ..so screw the japanese and i dont care how many americans they employ
390merc65 2 years ago
You know 9/11 is a touchy subject, so please don't bring it up.
Okay, yeah you're right. SCREW THE JAPS AND THE HARD WORKING AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THEM BECAUSE THE BIG 3 ARE BROKE AND THE JAPS ARE SELFISH!...Your kind of thought process makes me sick, seriously. Fuck you and all others who think like you. Where Ford, Chrystler, and GM laid off THOUSANDS of working American tax payers who have familes to feed, Toyota, Honda, and Nissan took them in. I won't look down on them for that.
phattacorider 2 years ago
thats right fuck the japs...its mostly there fault the big 3 are losing money becuase of the bullshitted americans who believe there shit is better then anything we can make ..thats so out dated thinking...so yeah ..fuck them ...did we forget about pearl harbor??...and the torture they put our ppl threw?...ok..your right...lets hand them this country over them ...and we will keep working for them like we keep doing..fuck them and the money they take out of this country..ASSHOLE'S
390merc65 2 years ago
Hrmmm, "let's hand this country over to them"...I don't know where you got that from cuz I sure as hell didn't say that.
Here's how things go. American corporate heads employ for less so they can make more and pay for their DEBTS. The employees can't afford to spend a lot. The Japanese are willing to stoop low to sell for cheap by employing cheap labor. So just to LIVE and feed their FAMILIES, Americans are forced to buy inexpensive. I don't care who you are, you know that part is true.
phattacorider 2 years ago
the big 3 pay there employee's more money then what toyota or honda and the rest of them pay the same auto workers to do the same job at youta or honda , but having the UAW there also hurts the US auto workers ....so if anything..the big 3 pay there employee's more then the american japanese counter part
390merc65 2 years ago
Well any maker who makes outside their respected origins will pay their employees less. Look at the big 3. How much do you think they pay Canadian and Mexican employees? FAR LESS than what American auto makers of American name vehicles make.
phattacorider 2 years ago
sure..thats true ...i am just saying compair ford of usa to toyota of usa..and the toyota employee's get less money for the same job, but one huge reason for that is the U A W ..and that is working against them though
390merc65 2 years ago
Well of course, and even though Ford has yet to ask for federal financial help it's because of the 12,000 union salaried employees they let go and continued building in Mexico. Sadly, that number is going up. I do understand why they did that. It was either lay off 12,000 and continue to build by reducing the cost in labor while still maintaining a certain profit margin, or file for government aid and let all assets go.
phattacorider 2 years ago
one big problem wit the big 3 is,,,,you have probably 5 fat employee's installing rear tire's on a car ..[becuase of the UAW] and toyota has 1 employee doing the same for less money ...and now that way of life for for the big is comming to an end so of coarse they made a choice to go to mexico for less money ..and i dont know if mexico has the UAW there ...so i guess ford is learning to [trim the fat] ..and they seem to manage money better then GM or mopar
390merc65 2 years ago
Well the big 3 is realising they can't pay their employees so much because there is competition, and the competition is the person who is willing to sell a vehicle for less. It's not just Toyota they have to worry about, but themselves. Look how long Dodge, Ford, and GM have been trying to gain dominance over one another. Seriously the only way to sell something to your average American is to put more than average stuff in it for less than average price.
phattacorider 2 years ago
thats is compitition between the big 3 , but its very hard for the big 3 to compete with toyota on price is becuase of the UAW ..toyota pay's employee's less then the big 3and toyota does not have the UAW to interfear with operations ..yota can make a car less and sell for cheaper then the big3 and one huge reason is becuase of the UAW ...the UAW needs to get out or at least step aside and let the big 3 servive , but most ppl who work there still want more and dont want to get rid of the union
390merc65 2 years ago