protests are distrupting the peace. Hell yes what do you think. thousands of screaming people blocking off streets and businesses. Its brutal, i honestly dont think they accomplish shit. Government doesnt care .and anarchists love turning them into riots. so all protests turn to riots. So police see all who participate as a possible threat and are on edge because they have come out and protect the peace from thugs. They have families to go home to also so dont think they are so evil,
@swollen1212 Your statement is so full of shit I don't know where to start, or if I should even bother. But I see this kind of ignorant BS is your speciality.
Montebello incident would Not be in the media without the real anarchist dressed in black to chase them 3 pigs out of the protest before the union leader took notice of it and camera turned on to the incident.
abandoned car??? WTF the pig doing was doing sitting in one of them?
try to arrest anarchist and you wll end up with a nasty fight!
Hi, me and mine are the black bloc when the mood takes us, and No, we're not police.
It's counter-measures against police surveillance/violence. That's all it is.
The provocateurs in montebello were cops, the bloc in toronto was legit.
Learn the difference please, ask an anarchist to explain it for you if you're genuinely curious. You're just speculating wildly here, and doing a disservice to street politics by perpetuating this paranoia.
Yes this is really happening. Regretfully, I was in a relationship with a cop and I know firsthand this is true. I have seen pictures of them not only in uniform but dressed as "protesters" mixed in with the crowd. I also saw photos of snipers on roofs at political rallies.All of this disturbed me immensely and I could no longer be anywhere near these people. They truly have been trained in the soldier mentality of its them against us. Civilians are spoke of almost as a subhuman in private.
Well said. It bothered me from the start, hearing media reports about a "black bloc" marching unchallenged through the streets one day while the police do nothing, even as their "abandoned" (?!) cars burn on the street. And then hundreds of innocent protesters suddenly start being arrested? As Neurolanis pointed out, this is a 1 billion dollar police presence. From the start, many have seen hints of media manipulation all over this mess.
They hired mercenaries to pose as both cops and anarchists, no doubt on the orders of the globalists. I hope Toronto's mayor isn't expecting another term in office. His endorsement of the actions of police was sickening and will be remembered. Excellent suggestions regarding the provocateurs.
How strange to "celebrate" CA Day, with the aftertaste of police brutality I witnessed first-hand. What was achieved: the manufacturing of an image that regular citizens are potential terrorists; anyone in a "wrong place/time/doing wrong things" (such as peacefully protesting), deserves to be mistreated, locked up in cages, his/her rights ignored. Good caps clumped together with bad (foreign?) caps. Fear, split of population (to conquer?). Coverage shifting to queen's visit, calling Canada home!
@katnip2u Yeah, well said. I don't like how the media has switched its attention to the queen visiting either. I know it was planned some time ago, but, it's merely symbolic. What happened at the G20 actually speaks about the state of things in our society.
@katnip2u You are an asshole. The police were not tough enough on these criminals. The union paid for a lot of these punks to come and cause trouble. I like most real Canadian support my police forces and feel that they should have come down harder.
The article you are using about the 2007 Montebello summit of North American leaders as a basis is not concrete proof and this provocateur conspiracy theory DOES NOT hold water!
The black bloc losers are kids with too much free time. They destroy for the sake of destroying. The black bloc or other Anarchists, do not care about anyone other than themselves. Some reporters even followed them and watched them change into street clothes.
Police admitted it was ineed them, and in the video you can clearly see rocks in their hands, regardless of any denials of provokation by the police chief... you can also clearly hear the legitimate protesters yelling at them to disarm themselves....
This would be proof enough in any court room - It'd be proof enough to anyone who doesn't feel police are beyond reproach.
The black bloc were not anarchists. You most likely have no idea what anarchism is.
Anarchist loser kids support black bloc tactics so yes, they are anarchists. I don't care what anarchism is because I don't want any part of it. I saw the shit first hand at the Pittsburgh G20 and the destruction those tourist anarchist loser kids left behind.
Of course anarchist loser kids love the shift in blame to the cops so of course they aren't going to accept blame.
@Neurolanis so we have to go to a complete different video that references a different even from 2007? I'm sorry, that is not proof that any of those same actions that took place during this G20.
@pobody69 People have legitimate concerns and questions (including myself) due to human rights violations and things just not adding up. I never said as a fact that the police are behind this particular incident; merely that it seems that way (and it does.) With a 1 billion dollar security force, why could they not tag the obvious anarchists and place them under arrest after they broke the law? It doesn't add up, so people have obvious questions and concerns.
@Neurolanis From what I understand riot police cannot take in into custody, only the local jurisdiction could make the arrest. Also I understand The riot police cannot move from their positions unless they receive an order to do so. So yes it is frustrating to see riot police stand and basically watch these loser-anarchist-kids destroy property.
The loser-black-bloc-anarchist-kids are not dumb. They know how to dress alike so that it is difficult to make a good ID.
@pobody69 A billion dollar security system should have included a lot more than a handful of riot police holding a line...actually, by basic common sense it must have.
@pobody69 "Riot" police refers only to the equipment officers are carrying and the extra role they may play. The majority of officers at the G20 in Toronto were [art of the The Integrated Security Unit, headed by the RCMP and largely comprised of OPP and Toronto Metropolitan Police. All of these branches have arrests powers within the zone.
@Neurolanis Govts all over the planet have a proven track record of doing this type of bs. To the willfully ignorant types that would say it does not happen do not read very much if any historical douments.
@pobody69 Yeeeeeeea surrrrrrrrrre : | police depts or local, state or national govt empolyees would NEVER partake in conspiratorial criminal acts to prevent it's citizenary from their RIGHT to protest the govt for redress of grievances.
@pobody69 Yeah, the same police working for the same Govt with the same goal. Fuck. You can clearly see cops dressed as protesters at the Toronto G20 so what is so complicated?
@pobody69 " Police provocateurs at Montebello Summit " . look that term up on youtube search engine. Then again since you're the willful ignorant type you will say it's just police doing their jobs.
@pobody69 Are you so dim-witted that you seriously can't see the connection? The cops used agent provocateurs at the last summit in Quebec, were caught and then admitted it. We can clearly see them in use here and you can't put it all together? Hopeless man :(
Youtube won't let me post links, but I'll message you them. For everyone else, you can find the proof within the first couple results of a google search for "quebec agent provacateurs".
These kids are not anarchists, anarchism =/= wanton destruction - There have been many very differentt schools of anarchist throughout history, for starters. Black block is a tactic, not a group - and certainly not an anarchist group. Go spend 5 minutes reading the wiki article on "anarchism" .
Alright, let's please take a few moments to think things through:
If people protest, the police will use Agent Provocateurs in order to create a media show aimed at scaring stupid people into accepting a police state.
What do we do? How do we fix this problem?
Stop protesting! What are you accomplishing? You are doing more harm than good because your protests are used as gasoline on fire to bring us closer to a police state.
If you want a police state, protest. If you want peace, stop!
Update: People are walking by police headquarters shouting "shame!" for the treatment of innocent protestors (link added.) Like I said before, I don't know who these anarchists/provocateurs were, by why couldn't a billion dollar security system tag them (under cover) and arrest them after breaking the law? Holding it in Toronto was of course a mistake (blame Harper for that,) but whoever organized security is to blame for rights violations.
the police cars were admitted as decoys in a statement to the cbc.... i feel vilated as someone who wanted to protest exploitation of poor and our natural resources
ppl should already suspect these cloaked individuals as agent provocateurs & stand back demand'g that those cloaked ppl be arrested & removed as non-representatives of the peaceful demonstration group. this needs to be investigated publicly to prove to citizens that agent provocateurs will be immediately identified & removed in future demonstrations!
I know exactly what kind of trash they are these blackblock scumbags and they should be shot! They are all loser's who dropped out of college or will never graduate. If they came to my town and did this shit. They would get shot.
The theory that Black Bloc tactics are simply directed by, or are all actual Police, with the only purpose of 'discrediting' other protesters is unsophisticated thinking. A You Tube comment is too small meaningful analysis, but... Some see value in militant confrontation and destruction to shift summits and their host's cost benefit equations. Make security costs huge or actually stop meetings. Non-violent or no-violence-now protestors will see no value. Add dynamic environments, rethink...
@tstravist Like I say, policemen have been caught in the black hoods before. I said I do not know this group or what who they work for, but they seem to serve the same purpose. The police do not engage them, instead they engage the general protestors. Your argument then is a lack of intelligence or organization on the side of the police?
@Neurolanis they are the police, the police stand by and let them cause havoc and the news media then writes how these protests are violent and general populace stops listening
@Neurolanis Brief points: Correct, disguised cops in Bloc, standard cops method from soccer fans to hippy tree sits. Correct, cops bait and/or use these plants to provide tactics justification. True for decade of Bloc global summit activity. Bloc knows this, is tactical game. eg, plants throw rocks over non-violent (NV) sit down protesters try justify beating blockade, clever bloc stops plants & withdraws avoids NV, stupid bloc joins in. Plants or not, Bloc makes summits very difficult & costly.
You use the example of Montebello like all of these conspiracy theorists who have absolutely no proof of anything. The only thing known in Montebello is that 3 police officers were involved in the undercover operation. None of them damaged anything and it's probably good policing to infiltrate the group and see what they're planning. You've seen the videos in Toronto. That was HUNDREDS of people. Do not tell me it was all one big conspiracy...
have you seen the video of montebello? police of course denied trying to cause violence, but if you watch the video you can see clear as day that the undercover police are holding rocks - you can also hear clear as day the legitimate protesters demanding they disarm themselves.
if this evidence isn't damning, you've got issues.
luckily, the protesters were succesful in getting rid of the undercovers, which resulted in a peaceful protest.
@kwaal why do you think the pigs were so eager to go back behind police line not because of a few union peoples but because they would of gotten their ass kicked by real anarchist dressed in black search youtube for "march 15th 2010 Montreal police brutality protest" you will see what happen to pigs dressed as protester when no union marshal are around to stop them
@Neurolanis correct! cops have been caught too many times you can't count trying to start bs at a otherwise peacful protests that is pathedic that willfully ignorant buffoons would even try to say this type of thing does not go on!
This is called black propaganda or false flag. Let things continue as they have for the last 20 years, wait until what always happens when people with out guns disagree with people with guns. Boston Massacre USA, Bloody Sunday Russia, Kent State USA, just a few. Governments only care about more power yours, mine it doesn't matter. Every once in a while nations need major restructuring, nobody's country is immune.
What would this do for Harper? I'm DEFINITELY no big fan of the man but people who subscribe to this conspiracy seem to genuinely believe that everyone wanted to "taint peaceful protest." I would have to ask what a NON-tainted peaceful protest would have accomplished. Why would government at all levels conspire to waste MILLIONS of dollars on security and post-protest repairs to "taint" protests that would've accomplished nothing anyways.
Update: Amnesty International is asking for an investigation into the treatment of the protestors during the G20. A link to this is included in the video information.
@DvineGaming Yes, protestors were trapped by police and screamed out to ask for a negotiator before they were arrested.
Also, from the Gurdian: Steve Paikin, who presents TV Ontario's current affairs programme Agenda, saw riot police with rubber bullet guns and smoke bombs break up a peaceful protest which was "like an old sit-in", he said.
You correctly point out the police abandoned those cruisers, but that doesn't prove those who destroyed them were cops, in fact the available video shows all damage was done by a bunch of malnourished kids. The police knew Anarchists were going to be protesting, even the media reported the cars were left in the street for the protesters to vent their frustrations, they simply capitalized on what was already coming, and rightly so. The idea people should appease their oppressor for fear of...
@bulldogger ...how they might react or spin their actions is frankly slavish. The idea of self-policing activists is really an authoritarian mindset, good protester vs bad protester; what superior being gets to regulate these things? If you have any evidence to prove the vandals were police I'd love to see it, because from the available video they don't look the part:
No, I said that I am not sure who those 'anarchists' are and who they are working for. I also said that 'troublemakers' were involved with the car damage (I believed that the hooded ones had set them on fire but I'd have to review that point.) The police were caught in those black hoods before, like I said, and this cannot be forgotten. I think since they do not reflect the interests of most protestors that the protestors should make this clear to the police and the media.
@Neurolanis Again, we get into good protester vs bad protester, who decides and under what criteria? Is burning a symbol of repression (cop car)) as violent as police tasering someone to death? Is destroying a Niketown storefront comparable to the violence of sweatshops? If Canadians were to realize holding signs doesn't achieve anything and started protesting like the Greeks, would you accept the premise peaceful protesters are really cops undermining the "good" protesters?
@bulldogger My point is that the majority are there for peaceful protest, and these provocateurs are an obvious threat to their protest. They should have been tagged closely by the police from the start (surely a 1 billion dollar security measure could handle that.) They do this to confuse the situation, the purpose of the protest, and make the people look like the bad guys. When they smah windows and stuff they should be arrested, not innocent protestors.
No, I would not. Do you actually think that resorting to violence solves anything? It only promotes the Police State, it supports the fears of the elite and 'good employees' at home that the people are wreckless and need to be controlled. That is a far weaker position to be in than standing firm, on the high moral ground. Obviously we need a revolution of some kind, but it will come through keeping the high ground and exposing the guilty. Wreckless violence solves nothing.
@Neurolanis Sure, when someone breaks into my home and attempts to kill me and my family, violence is the solution. Are you suggesting in the face of violence people should just roll over? What constitutes violence? What is your definition of violence? When is violence justified? Are you really trying to suggesting breaking a window of a corporation who engages in exploitation is immoral? If so it begs the question, whose side are you on? The fact is without violence we wouldn't of had Gandhi.
No, of course there is a time to fight back. As much as I respect Gandhi, Hitler had to be stopped the old-fashioned way, no question. But violence is a desperate, final measure. Most wars never had to be fought.
Whether or not smashing windows and burning cars would count as violence, it speaks of chaos (desperate actions.) It does not make a protest look strong.
For the record, I hate corporate empires (am soon to make a series of vids on that.) I just believe in being wise about it.
Interesting video. The idea that we have protesters burning and destroying things does nothing but harm the cause. Martin Luther King probably had it best when e said "If they attack you, keep on marching." However, now we have government telling us where to protest (the organization is needed but should be based on the group leader more than anything) and people that forget the true spirit of boycotting and protesting. However, people will always take a stand, even if like this.
'The powers that be' seem to think that we're stupid or blind. LOL Well, guess what? We see right through them and we have people like Neurolanis to make more and more people aware. Peace babykins :)
The moly mcguires in the late 1800's had pinkerton to set them murdering and beating them, the unions in the 1930's had police infiltrate the protests to cause problems to allow the corporate owned police to murder and beat unionists, the wto in seattle had the same anarchists, who were never saught by the police because they were police ... again toronto G8 the same thing happens.The elitists are so afraid of the average people because they have reaped the just dues in Russia and France before
the same people who organize this 1Billion$ security fund also payed those fake anarchists to destroy thier police cars and corporate windows. cause and effect they give the police a reason to body snatch inocent people. all the news stations are in on this too they wont show us peacful protest they glorify violence which was ALLOWED to happen. fuck these police all these snakes they will never silence truth
@Supashroomz looks like you know thing I don't... where do i collect my anarchist check because the owe me 15 years of unpaid labor. fuckins capitalist scum always exploiting their employee :(
Don't cover your face! Anyone who is wearing a damn ninja suit stay away from.
brnikko 2 months ago
protests are distrupting the peace. Hell yes what do you think. thousands of screaming people blocking off streets and businesses. Its brutal, i honestly dont think they accomplish shit. Government doesnt care .and anarchists love turning them into riots. so all protests turn to riots. So police see all who participate as a possible threat and are on edge because they have come out and protect the peace from thugs. They have families to go home to also so dont think they are so evil,
swollen1212 8 months ago
@swollen1212 Your statement is so full of shit I don't know where to start, or if I should even bother. But I see this kind of ignorant BS is your speciality.
Neurolanis 8 months ago
This video is counter-revolutionary. Bullshit smears.
Direct action gets the goods.
bjarczyk 9 months ago
Montebello incident would Not be in the media without the real anarchist dressed in black to chase them 3 pigs out of the protest before the union leader took notice of it and camera turned on to the incident.
abandoned car??? WTF the pig doing was doing sitting in one of them?
try to arrest anarchist and you wll end up with a nasty fight!
bugmyass 1 year ago
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Hi, me and mine are the black bloc when the mood takes us, and No, we're not police.
It's counter-measures against police surveillance/violence. That's all it is.
The provocateurs in montebello were cops, the bloc in toronto was legit.
Learn the difference please, ask an anarchist to explain it for you if you're genuinely curious. You're just speculating wildly here, and doing a disservice to street politics by perpetuating this paranoia.
UglyFacet 1 year ago
Yes this is really happening. Regretfully, I was in a relationship with a cop and I know firsthand this is true. I have seen pictures of them not only in uniform but dressed as "protesters" mixed in with the crowd. I also saw photos of snipers on roofs at political rallies.All of this disturbed me immensely and I could no longer be anywhere near these people. They truly have been trained in the soldier mentality of its them against us. Civilians are spoke of almost as a subhuman in private.
utubegirlx 1 year ago
Well said. It bothered me from the start, hearing media reports about a "black bloc" marching unchallenged through the streets one day while the police do nothing, even as their "abandoned" (?!) cars burn on the street. And then hundreds of innocent protesters suddenly start being arrested? As Neurolanis pointed out, this is a 1 billion dollar police presence. From the start, many have seen hints of media manipulation all over this mess.
emathy 1 year ago
protesters need to wise up and kick the blac bloc's ass when they show up, wearing masks like a bunch of pussyclot faggots.
CheeezMaster 1 year ago
oops i fell for a sting
neoregulus777 1 year ago
Sounds just like IRAQ war...Piggies playing dress up.
DazzinglyBeautiful 1 year ago
They hired mercenaries to pose as both cops and anarchists, no doubt on the orders of the globalists. I hope Toronto's mayor isn't expecting another term in office. His endorsement of the actions of police was sickening and will be remembered. Excellent suggestions regarding the provocateurs.
brightsorcerer 1 year ago
How strange to "celebrate" CA Day, with the aftertaste of police brutality I witnessed first-hand. What was achieved: the manufacturing of an image that regular citizens are potential terrorists; anyone in a "wrong place/time/doing wrong things" (such as peacefully protesting), deserves to be mistreated, locked up in cages, his/her rights ignored. Good caps clumped together with bad (foreign?) caps. Fear, split of population (to conquer?). Coverage shifting to queen's visit, calling Canada home!
katnip2u 1 year ago
@katnip2u Yeah, well said. I don't like how the media has switched its attention to the queen visiting either. I know it was planned some time ago, but, it's merely symbolic. What happened at the G20 actually speaks about the state of things in our society.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
@katnip2u You are an asshole. The police were not tough enough on these criminals. The union paid for a lot of these punks to come and cause trouble. I like most real Canadian support my police forces and feel that they should have come down harder.
justanoldman1 1 year ago
1 BILLION in security and 2 cars are left unattended to burn and explode while there were minimal officers and guards.
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Obvious media achievement by the cops!
DionDifelice 1 year ago
The article you are using about the 2007 Montebello summit of North American leaders as a basis is not concrete proof and this provocateur conspiracy theory DOES NOT hold water!
The black bloc losers are kids with too much free time. They destroy for the sake of destroying. The black bloc or other Anarchists, do not care about anyone other than themselves. Some reporters even followed them and watched them change into street clothes.
pobody69 1 year ago
@pobody69
Police admitted it was ineed them, and in the video you can clearly see rocks in their hands, regardless of any denials of provokation by the police chief... you can also clearly hear the legitimate protesters yelling at them to disarm themselves....
This would be proof enough in any court room - It'd be proof enough to anyone who doesn't feel police are beyond reproach.
The black bloc were not anarchists. You most likely have no idea what anarchism is.
kwaal 1 year ago
@kwaal
Where did the police admit it?
What video are you referring to?
Anarchist loser kids support black bloc tactics so yes, they are anarchists. I don't care what anarchism is because I don't want any part of it. I saw the shit first hand at the Pittsburgh G20 and the destruction those tourist anarchist loser kids left behind.
Of course anarchist loser kids love the shift in blame to the cops so of course they aren't going to accept blame.
pobody69 1 year ago
@pobody69 The video is the first or second link in the video information (below the video screen.) A YouTube video.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
@Neurolanis so we have to go to a complete different video that references a different even from 2007? I'm sorry, that is not proof that any of those same actions that took place during this G20.
pobody69 1 year ago
You don't have to do anything, I was pointing you to the video that Kwaal had mentioned since you expressed interest at the time.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
@Neurolanis cool. That's usually what happens when conspiracy theories float around.
pobody69 1 year ago
@pobody69 People have legitimate concerns and questions (including myself) due to human rights violations and things just not adding up. I never said as a fact that the police are behind this particular incident; merely that it seems that way (and it does.) With a 1 billion dollar security force, why could they not tag the obvious anarchists and place them under arrest after they broke the law? It doesn't add up, so people have obvious questions and concerns.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
@Neurolanis From what I understand riot police cannot take in into custody, only the local jurisdiction could make the arrest. Also I understand The riot police cannot move from their positions unless they receive an order to do so. So yes it is frustrating to see riot police stand and basically watch these loser-anarchist-kids destroy property.
The loser-black-bloc-anarchist-kids are not dumb. They know how to dress alike so that it is difficult to make a good ID.
pobody69 1 year ago
@pobody69 A billion dollar security system should have included a lot more than a handful of riot police holding a line...actually, by basic common sense it must have.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
@pobody69 "Riot" police refers only to the equipment officers are carrying and the extra role they may play. The majority of officers at the G20 in Toronto were [art of the The Integrated Security Unit, headed by the RCMP and largely comprised of OPP and Toronto Metropolitan Police. All of these branches have arrests powers within the zone.
TheCars4Sale 1 year ago
@Neurolanis Govts all over the planet have a proven track record of doing this type of bs. To the willfully ignorant types that would say it does not happen do not read very much if any historical douments.
CherokeeApacheIrish 1 year ago
@pobody69 Yeeeeeeea surrrrrrrrrre : | police depts or local, state or national govt empolyees would NEVER partake in conspiratorial criminal acts to prevent it's citizenary from their RIGHT to protest the govt for redress of grievances.
CherokeeApacheIrish 1 year ago
@CherokeeApacheIrish yeah I noticed you're part of the Alex Jones cult, good luck with that!
pobody69 1 year ago
@pobody69 No! How about do some reading unless that that scares you!
CherokeeApacheIrish 1 year ago
@CherokeeApacheIrish Name 3 books you read.
pobody69 1 year ago
@pobody69 Yeah, the same police working for the same Govt with the same goal. Fuck. You can clearly see cops dressed as protesters at the Toronto G20 so what is so complicated?
luvmyctd 1 year ago
@luvmyctd why do you have to make it more complicated than it seems?
pobody69 1 year ago
@pobody69 " Police provocateurs at Montebello Summit " . look that term up on youtube search engine. Then again since you're the willful ignorant type you will say it's just police doing their jobs.
CherokeeApacheIrish 1 year ago
@CherokeeApacheIrish yeah an article from 2007, I read it earlier. and?
I am starting to suspect your heritage, do you have a picture of yourself holding a current newspaper?
pobody69 1 year ago
@pobody69 Are you so dim-witted that you seriously can't see the connection? The cops used agent provocateurs at the last summit in Quebec, were caught and then admitted it. We can clearly see them in use here and you can't put it all together? Hopeless man :(
luvmyctd 1 year ago
@pobody69
Youtube won't let me post links, but I'll message you them. For everyone else, you can find the proof within the first couple results of a google search for "quebec agent provacateurs".
These kids are not anarchists, anarchism =/= wanton destruction - There have been many very differentt schools of anarchist throughout history, for starters. Black block is a tactic, not a group - and certainly not an anarchist group. Go spend 5 minutes reading the wiki article on "anarchism" .
kwaal 1 year ago
@kwaal
I already responded to you.
pobody69 1 year ago
Alright, let's please take a few moments to think things through:
If people protest, the police will use Agent Provocateurs in order to create a media show aimed at scaring stupid people into accepting a police state.
What do we do? How do we fix this problem?
Stop protesting! What are you accomplishing? You are doing more harm than good because your protests are used as gasoline on fire to bring us closer to a police state.
If you want a police state, protest. If you want peace, stop!
JohnWesleyMethodist 1 year ago
Update: People are walking by police headquarters shouting "shame!" for the treatment of innocent protestors (link added.) Like I said before, I don't know who these anarchists/provocateurs were, by why couldn't a billion dollar security system tag them (under cover) and arrest them after breaking the law? Holding it in Toronto was of course a mistake (blame Harper for that,) but whoever organized security is to blame for rights violations.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
this city has never been under such a scathing international spotlight!
acerb45666555 1 year ago
the police cars were admitted as decoys in a statement to the cbc.... i feel vilated as someone who wanted to protest exploitation of poor and our natural resources
MsRougeChat 1 year ago
ppl should already suspect these cloaked individuals as agent provocateurs & stand back demand'g that those cloaked ppl be arrested & removed as non-representatives of the peaceful demonstration group. this needs to be investigated publicly to prove to citizens that agent provocateurs will be immediately identified & removed in future demonstrations!
folly4444 1 year ago
The Black Bloc are anarchists.
mistaspot1 1 year ago
infiltrators, black block, agent provocateurs!
canadiangal0099 1 year ago
I hope something pops up with a mask person being caught and identified.
trybal007 1 year ago
Your full of shit.
birthdaymatt 1 year ago
I know exactly what kind of trash they are these blackblock scumbags and they should be shot! They are all loser's who dropped out of college or will never graduate. If they came to my town and did this shit. They would get shot.
mikesternberg 1 year ago
@mikesternberg They Are Police
Jangaboo 1 year ago
@Jangaboo Prove it or it's just an accusation which means nothing.
mikesternberg 1 year ago
I couldn't agree more, and I have that same lamp.
ebagork 1 year ago
there's a report from a friend of mine , that a 13 year old girl had urinate in her holding cell .
napalmcoffee 1 year ago
The theory that Black Bloc tactics are simply directed by, or are all actual Police, with the only purpose of 'discrediting' other protesters is unsophisticated thinking. A You Tube comment is too small meaningful analysis, but... Some see value in militant confrontation and destruction to shift summits and their host's cost benefit equations. Make security costs huge or actually stop meetings. Non-violent or no-violence-now protestors will see no value. Add dynamic environments, rethink...
tstravist 1 year ago
@tstravist Like I say, policemen have been caught in the black hoods before. I said I do not know this group or what who they work for, but they seem to serve the same purpose. The police do not engage them, instead they engage the general protestors. Your argument then is a lack of intelligence or organization on the side of the police?
Neurolanis 1 year ago 5
@Neurolanis they are the police, the police stand by and let them cause havoc and the news media then writes how these protests are violent and general populace stops listening
Jangaboo 1 year ago
@Neurolanis Brief points: Correct, disguised cops in Bloc, standard cops method from soccer fans to hippy tree sits. Correct, cops bait and/or use these plants to provide tactics justification. True for decade of Bloc global summit activity. Bloc knows this, is tactical game. eg, plants throw rocks over non-violent (NV) sit down protesters try justify beating blockade, clever bloc stops plants & withdraws avoids NV, stupid bloc joins in. Plants or not, Bloc makes summits very difficult & costly.
tstravist 1 year ago
@Neurolanis
You use the example of Montebello like all of these conspiracy theorists who have absolutely no proof of anything. The only thing known in Montebello is that 3 police officers were involved in the undercover operation. None of them damaged anything and it's probably good policing to infiltrate the group and see what they're planning. You've seen the videos in Toronto. That was HUNDREDS of people. Do not tell me it was all one big conspiracy...
perfectestperson 1 year ago
@perfectestperson
have you seen the video of montebello? police of course denied trying to cause violence, but if you watch the video you can see clear as day that the undercover police are holding rocks - you can also hear clear as day the legitimate protesters demanding they disarm themselves.
if this evidence isn't damning, you've got issues.
luckily, the protesters were succesful in getting rid of the undercovers, which resulted in a peaceful protest.
kwaal 1 year ago
@kwaal why do you think the pigs were so eager to go back behind police line not because of a few union peoples but because they would of gotten their ass kicked by real anarchist dressed in black search youtube for "march 15th 2010 Montreal police brutality protest" you will see what happen to pigs dressed as protester when no union marshal are around to stop them
bugmyass 1 year ago
@Neurolanis correct! cops have been caught too many times you can't count trying to start bs at a otherwise peacful protests that is pathedic that willfully ignorant buffoons would even try to say this type of thing does not go on!
CherokeeApacheIrish 1 year ago
This is called black propaganda or false flag. Let things continue as they have for the last 20 years, wait until what always happens when people with out guns disagree with people with guns. Boston Massacre USA, Bloody Sunday Russia, Kent State USA, just a few. Governments only care about more power yours, mine it doesn't matter. Every once in a while nations need major restructuring, nobody's country is immune.
lapin71457 1 year ago
@lapin71457 I'm glad this event turned out as well as it did, but it still deserves an investigation for human rights violations.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
Can you imagine all the sheep tongue wagging tomorrow around the proverbial water cooler.
SnakemanJeffss 1 year ago
Very excellent video! Stumbled across this on an 'agent provocateur' search.
You would like the article called "When Police Stick to Phony Script" by Catherine Porter posted on Common Dreams dot org.
Harper's goal, as many a politician's, is to make people afraid, taint peaceful protest, prevent open and honest debate -Silence Dissent!
Liked, fav'd, sub'd and featured. Thank you!
longhairred 1 year ago
@longhairred Thank-you, I'll check that out.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
@longhairred
What would this do for Harper? I'm DEFINITELY no big fan of the man but people who subscribe to this conspiracy seem to genuinely believe that everyone wanted to "taint peaceful protest." I would have to ask what a NON-tainted peaceful protest would have accomplished. Why would government at all levels conspire to waste MILLIONS of dollars on security and post-protest repairs to "taint" protests that would've accomplished nothing anyways.
perfectestperson 1 year ago
Update: Amnesty International is asking for an investigation into the treatment of the protestors during the G20. A link to this is included in the video information.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
They are expressing the right of free speech. They are denying our rights!? That is rediculous.
DvineGaming 1 year ago
@DvineGaming Who's listening while they're caged in a park, out of the way?
Neurolanis 1 year ago
@Neurolanis Your watching this on tv they just started screaming let us out and they are still traped in there.
DvineGaming 1 year ago
@DvineGaming Yes, protestors were trapped by police and screamed out to ask for a negotiator before they were arrested.
Also, from the Gurdian: Steve Paikin, who presents TV Ontario's current affairs programme Agenda, saw riot police with rubber bullet guns and smoke bombs break up a peaceful protest which was "like an old sit-in", he said.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
You correctly point out the police abandoned those cruisers, but that doesn't prove those who destroyed them were cops, in fact the available video shows all damage was done by a bunch of malnourished kids. The police knew Anarchists were going to be protesting, even the media reported the cars were left in the street for the protesters to vent their frustrations, they simply capitalized on what was already coming, and rightly so. The idea people should appease their oppressor for fear of...
bulldogger 1 year ago
@bulldogger ...how they might react or spin their actions is frankly slavish. The idea of self-policing activists is really an authoritarian mindset, good protester vs bad protester; what superior being gets to regulate these things? If you have any evidence to prove the vandals were police I'd love to see it, because from the available video they don't look the part:
watch?v=4r-6cnGkp3Y
bulldogger 1 year ago
No, I said that I am not sure who those 'anarchists' are and who they are working for. I also said that 'troublemakers' were involved with the car damage (I believed that the hooded ones had set them on fire but I'd have to review that point.) The police were caught in those black hoods before, like I said, and this cannot be forgotten. I think since they do not reflect the interests of most protestors that the protestors should make this clear to the police and the media.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
@Neurolanis Again, we get into good protester vs bad protester, who decides and under what criteria? Is burning a symbol of repression (cop car)) as violent as police tasering someone to death? Is destroying a Niketown storefront comparable to the violence of sweatshops? If Canadians were to realize holding signs doesn't achieve anything and started protesting like the Greeks, would you accept the premise peaceful protesters are really cops undermining the "good" protesters?
bulldogger 1 year ago
@bulldogger My point is that the majority are there for peaceful protest, and these provocateurs are an obvious threat to their protest. They should have been tagged closely by the police from the start (surely a 1 billion dollar security measure could handle that.) They do this to confuse the situation, the purpose of the protest, and make the people look like the bad guys. When they smah windows and stuff they should be arrested, not innocent protestors.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
No, I would not. Do you actually think that resorting to violence solves anything? It only promotes the Police State, it supports the fears of the elite and 'good employees' at home that the people are wreckless and need to be controlled. That is a far weaker position to be in than standing firm, on the high moral ground. Obviously we need a revolution of some kind, but it will come through keeping the high ground and exposing the guilty. Wreckless violence solves nothing.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
@Neurolanis Sure, when someone breaks into my home and attempts to kill me and my family, violence is the solution. Are you suggesting in the face of violence people should just roll over? What constitutes violence? What is your definition of violence? When is violence justified? Are you really trying to suggesting breaking a window of a corporation who engages in exploitation is immoral? If so it begs the question, whose side are you on? The fact is without violence we wouldn't of had Gandhi.
bulldogger 1 year ago
No, of course there is a time to fight back. As much as I respect Gandhi, Hitler had to be stopped the old-fashioned way, no question. But violence is a desperate, final measure. Most wars never had to be fought.
Whether or not smashing windows and burning cars would count as violence, it speaks of chaos (desperate actions.) It does not make a protest look strong.
For the record, I hate corporate empires (am soon to make a series of vids on that.) I just believe in being wise about it.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
@Neurolanis Looking forward to the video series. : )
bulldogger 1 year ago
@bulldogger Thanks man. :)
Neurolanis 1 year ago
A bit of creative intuition for ya: Some fitting music might make these videos more effective, possibly instrumental.
Ultraman725 1 year ago
Interesting video. The idea that we have protesters burning and destroying things does nothing but harm the cause. Martin Luther King probably had it best when e said "If they attack you, keep on marching." However, now we have government telling us where to protest (the organization is needed but should be based on the group leader more than anything) and people that forget the true spirit of boycotting and protesting. However, people will always take a stand, even if like this.
Ultraman725 1 year ago
@Ultraman725 Yes, a firm and non-violent stand is the best method right now. When the people have the high moral ground, it's best to keep it.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
'The powers that be' seem to think that we're stupid or blind. LOL Well, guess what? We see right through them and we have people like Neurolanis to make more and more people aware. Peace babykins :)
Tylorian 1 year ago
Very well said. I agree.
avempace000 1 year ago
"designated protest area" talk about an oxymoron ....great ta see ya.
eeleimmij 1 year ago
@eeleimmij Thanks. Yeah it sure is.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
Great video, can't thank you enough for this one. We're having some similar issues along this line in the UK, some bad times ahead I fear.
TallonTron 1 year ago
@TallonTron Thanks for saying so.
Neurolanis 1 year ago
Lies the people anarchhists are just scumbags the government of Canada is not doing that. Your a liar.
mikesternberg 1 year ago
@mikesternberg that's why they've been guilty of doing it before, don't speak unless you know what you're talking about
MansonFreak 1 year ago
The moly mcguires in the late 1800's had pinkerton to set them murdering and beating them, the unions in the 1930's had police infiltrate the protests to cause problems to allow the corporate owned police to murder and beat unionists, the wto in seattle had the same anarchists, who were never saught by the police because they were police ... again toronto G8 the same thing happens.The elitists are so afraid of the average people because they have reaped the just dues in Russia and France before
ben5017 1 year ago
That's a bizarre thought. Merci!
DepartArrive 1 year ago
respects, thats truth
the same people who organize this 1Billion$ security fund also payed those fake anarchists to destroy thier police cars and corporate windows. cause and effect they give the police a reason to body snatch inocent people. all the news stations are in on this too they wont show us peacful protest they glorify violence which was ALLOWED to happen. fuck these police all these snakes they will never silence truth
Supashroomz 1 year ago
@Supashroomz looks like you know thing I don't... where do i collect my anarchist check because the owe me 15 years of unpaid labor. fuckins capitalist scum always exploiting their employee :(
bugmyass 1 year ago
Its true the cops are evil!
crypter27 1 year ago