Beautiful music! I wish they had a longer collaboration as the two 'Eschers of music' can produce something truly other-worldly when combined. But then I wish D.B. would have a UK tour :( sometime in my lifetime or at least one date...His blog is excellent though...
Not Byrne's best work, probably among his worst. I love his desire to always work on new sounds and music. Some times they work, some times their genius and some times they turn out to be bad elevator music like this song/album.
@malkooth Funny I'm just making my opinion known and you in turn launch a personal attack on my intelligence. I have no further comment. Good day. Peace!
@WalangDiyos My Life in the Bush of Ghosts was and still is one of the great achievements of modern music. Byrne/Eno reached the pinnacle in Remain in Light and kept the same high level in Ghosts. I thought so then and I still think so now.
I`m Peter Blackpool, singer and mysterious person. People think they know me but i`m afraid that`s not possible. First of all, i am created by David(name) and Don (action developper) and Peter himself as Mr. P. Blackpool.our search for `the ultimate reallife live show`whitch we are developping under the workingtitel `tipje va We are hoping that we can schedule our interview with you tonight. Can you contact us, or can i just drop in? See `ya `luv!
If it is your values as it was the values of parerents and you carry them: LIVE IT.
Fools that urge for secularity and socilalism , rejectors of the simpliest truth, are on the muslim front. Let them have their "Ni Dieu , ni maître" and "L'enfer c'est les autres", what they need to prove everyday, let them live their shit in hell, not here.
Fools do not know what they do, but that is obvious.
Just glad to find this here to save me ripping the original vinyl. By the way the source of the chanting sample was a legitimately released LP, but before the polarisation of religious politics we have now.
The koran: a vain and futile attempt to clothe an otherwise naked and empty philosophy in some semblance of scientific credibility by invoking itself as its own written authority!
If we judged Christianity by the behaviour of the Church over the past, say, 1800 years, we would assume that it is a monstrous religion, composed of meglomanical murderers. Do you have any idea how many people, Muslims and Jews and Christians, have been murdered by the Church over that time? Don't judge a religion by those who pervert its true nature. Allahu Akbar!~!by the way, I'm Jewish.
@nicodagger The main reason Christians don't go around proselytising and murdering infidels is because they (thankfully), separated church and state. If they wouldn't have, then their behaviour would not be much different than the moslems. As far as the TRUE NATURE OF islam is concerned, that was exemplified by mohammed, who was a TERRORIST and a MURDERER, running around the world sowing MAYHEM for the purpose of CONVERSION!
I am a christian from the UK.Christians murder each other around these parts-or at least they did in the disputed province of Northern Ireland for many years-while all this was happening , public fundraisers were being held in New York and the US to support the irish "freedom-fighters" aka terrorists.Also christian fundamentalists have killed abortionists in the USA because they disagree with their practises.The recent massacre in Scandinavia was done by a "christian".fundamentalist
@bankruptstate Ok. And your point is? Christians still carry out massacres despite separating church from state, right? Yes, but they don't go around violently proselytising like Moslems do. And, most terrorist acts around the world are still carried out by ... MOSLEMS! Do you smell the huka?
@Jakob1951 It's Muslim, son. That's why your argument lacks validity. As an American and a Christian, its necessary for me to stand for something greater than myself. I smell something more rotten than Jakob. The acceptance and appreciation of ignorance, is more disconcerting. What do you know about Islam, Jakob?
@Dactuck No, it''s also MOSLEM daddyO! And that's why my argument lacks validity???!!! If ignorance is disconcerting, then INFORM yourself properly. Try this: Moslems just casually accept the testimony of ONE illiterate man ALONE in the desert. Do you smell a LIE? You should. THE Divine Revelation (The Torah) was revealed in front of MORE THAN 1,000,000 people! Do you get the point? Let's not forget the ROUTINE LIES Moslems repeat ad nauseaum about the M.E. conflict. Put that in your MILLER BEER
@bankruptstate LOL!!! Boy it took you a long time to respond. Is that the best you can do? Because I use the term "MOSLEM", therefore I'm a bigot?! What kind of FLATULANT argument is that? Answer this: why do so-called peaceful Moslems remain silent when a minority of their bretheren are running around the world STABBING, SHOOTING, BOMBING AND TERRORIZING humanity? Hmmm; guess who really is going to Hell?
Wow , I am impressed -you used the term "minority" when mentioning muslim terrorists-maybe there is hope for you yet-you mention the Torah,I would be surprised if the Torah preaches religious hatred. I spent years in Israel working/ living with Israelis/ Arabs. The vast majority live and work side by side without issues despite their idealogical differences,although there idiot extremists on both sides. You have a lot of hatred in you ...were you abused as a child ?
@bankruptstate Working side-by-side with the Jews does not necessarily indicate the Moslems' true feelings, because the rank and file don't protest terrorist acts, EVEN AGAINST THEIR OWN! Therefore, they not only tacitly approve of terrorism against the infidels, but they are also GUILTY of such acts. After all, they are just FOLLOWING THE WAYS OF THEIR FOUNDER - mohammed. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
I'm Muslim, and I'm NOT offended at all. I think music is a beautiful gift from Allah (swt) but unfortunately it's being abused by industry-churned fake models who sell their auto-tuned crap and get rich off it. Listen to thoughtful and talented artists like Brian Eno, not Britney Spears and Lady Gaga :D
byrne was very aware of what was to come. take a listen to 'wind in my heart' and even 'life during wartime' again,.you will come to find that he was very hip to the future
big problem is sorting out the good guys from the bad. I say "problem" but not my problem. The problem lies fairly and squarely in the lap of the good muslims who have allowed the evil guys to hijack their religion !
Some really sad people discussing wether a great song offends, I'll play what I want to play and I don't give a fuck if people are offended. this is genious.....by two extremely cultured artists.
people still dont get that the "religion" i like is my business and not theirs...whatever iam muslim,christ or whatever its my business..hope everybody got it now, just a religion nothing interesting lol
The chants by Dunya Yasin are Islamic calls to prayer, but the fact that middle eastern style tones and languages are used is not necessarily indicative that the work is Musim music. Haters should try to appreciate the art for arts sake, anything less is wasting time with those who have'nt the mind or soul to appreciate art. Do paintings of naked ladies offend you too? This album was the finest collection of tracks eno and byrne produced, fripp makes magic too.
I met Brian Eno when he came to my country, spoke to him, in fact we had a few drinks and a smoke, and he doesn't hate Muslims, in case any of you is wondering...
I am Muslim and I don't feel offended in any way by this song, on the contrary, I'm flattered that these two musical genii took an interest. Please don't confuse Islam and Muslims with the CIA created and trained terrorists such as Talibans or 'Al Qaida'. Saudis are not representative of Islam either, in fact many many Muslimsare disgusted with them. If they weren't such a good ally to US they would've been removed a long time ago, along with all other puppet regimes designed and kept by CIA...
@amir071 First, this is not the version that was deleted. If you're interested in hearing it, let me know.
Secondly, the original version was deleted willingly, voluntarily, and, in fact, enthusiastically by the artists, according to the reports I've heard. The last thing that either Eno or Byrne wanted to do was to offend someone, particularly a spiritual group. "Intimidation rioting" (as I call it) was unknown in 1981. The "Hostage Crisis" in Iran had only recently been resolved.
@amir071 Okay, this is music, let's drop all political-religious aspects for now: this, to my western ears has a distinctly middle eastern sound. Yet how would I know? Byrne+eno understand the sound of music better than most of us- it's so cool to listen to this art--- a creating of a whole feeling simply from sound.
This is using the mind- the thing you were given with absolutely no way of arguing. Use it well, use it for your own growth. Why else were you given this incredible gift?
Though I am an atheist and think that religion is the bane of humankind, I appreciate your insight into the REAL politics that are going on...from a muslim's point of view!
@Bongofury361 - I think the same about atheism but the underlying point is that we are all humans and we should all really learn how to appreciate each other for what we are and not for what we believe in or don't. This piece of music in particular is, in my mind, a bridge over that river that separates us. Peace on you!
Well, seeing that the Taliban -- and certainly not Al Qaida -- are not "Regimes", your comment, although initially refreshing and welcome from a Muslim, loses credibility when you blame the US for their existence.
The same old line.
All I can say to you is if Egypt kicked out Mubarak, and Libya and Yemen are earnestly working on ousting Gaddafi and Salah, then the PEOPLE of the Middle East can oust the cancer that is destabilizing the entire world. Or simply quit joining their ranks.
@nofs2003 Yes, but the point he's making is that your sick country, is the problem. You supported and funded all of the people on that list. If your a citizen of the great USA that is......
Yeah you're right all the violence and horror is everyone else's fault because the Koran is packed full of 6th Century 'wisdom' Bible-junk and it's the true word of god. Muhammed couldn't possibly have made it all up like the Mormon nut Joseph Smith did. We know god's real because god proves this by never revealing himself and never coming to anyone's aid. There is no god. Religious people need to grow up. Muslims butcher other Muslims without the help of the CIA.
@amir071 You are also out to lunch here if you believe that the CIA trained Muslim terrorists. Islam has been terrorizing and murdering infidels since its inception! And yes, Mohammed was the premier terrorist, leading his hordes against the neighbouring countries where he lived. There were and are many Islamic nations who are (were) not allies of the U.S., and were (are) involved in terrorism. Don't you know your religion and its history?
@IDNHN I don't know what you are referring to here, but if it's the attitude of politically correct people, then you're right. So the solution is ... OPEN YOUR EYES and see the jihad.
@Jakob1951 dude I'm a Muslim....U really think that you know "JIHAD" more than me?.....u OPEN YOUR EYES and stop listening to what "Bush" tells/told.....p.s. I really don't like arguing about "Religion" but cuz I think everybody is free but you crossed my freedom limit that's why I "responded" to u.....peace :D
@IDNHN Well dude, you're free to practice your religion, EXCEPT when what you do (i.e. jihad against infidels), directly threatens my life: capiche? If you are truly peaceful, then REIGN IN your Moslem brothers who are running around the world stabbing, shooting and bombing people into submission!
@Jakob1951 why u r so sure they are Muslims??? what if they are just "CIA" people and they'r trying to show u the wrong "Islam" that u r talking about..........y don't u check "Islam" for urself and then "Argue" with me :)
@IDNHN LOL!!! And maybe they aren't Moslems, but LITTLE GREEN MEN FROM MARS! I mean, get REAL man.The reason people are suspicious, is because SO-CALLED peaceful Moslems tacitly support MAYHEM, TERROR and MURDER!!! Get your act together and then we can talk.
Saudis and their other friends do give Islam a bad name. What nobody seems to point out is that there is a billion Muslims in the world, if those regimes were to represent all of Islam, there would be a lot more trouble.
I've been to "Muslim countries" and felt very welcomed. Great people and food. One man in Egypt threatened to cut my head off while he was passing by. I laughed and my Egyptian friend laughed too, that guy was just an ass. Tarring people with the same brush is bad.
@amir071 music shout bring people together and with musicians like byrne and eno music can bring the world together, i lived for severel years in the middle east and played music with diverent cultures non of us had a problem with the religion others where brought up by, we did not care we loved making music and had fun,
btw it was a moslim, jew, christian band and we all brought in some of our of our cultural music,
god doesn't makes the diverent people does. oh jeah fuck politics
I'm gathering from the comments that this song is no longer on the album, due to pressure from islamofascists? If that is the case, that's a fucking shame!
We should just drop a neutron bomb on the middle east, and be done with israel and a large percentage of the world's muslims!
@amir071 I just gave you a thumbs up on your latest comment, and then I realized you were the guy who wrote the nasty response to MY comment! If I offended you, too bad, but you don't sound like you're an orthodox muslim, anyway, as you smoke and drink. I believe religion is the bane of humankind, and the sooner people stop worshiping a god that doesn't exist, the better the world will be!
@SLAM234 Yeah, you won't answer my question, and that tells me everything I need to know, you're just a bigot. Furthermore, if you take issue with the idea that the US funds and sponsors and protects the dictators (not religions) that are actually abusing people, then you need to educate yourself. Look up Hosney Mubarack, or maybe the Saudi Royal family, and tell me who gives them money every year. End of story.
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@SLAM234 Again, I ask you a simple question, are you against those things when they are done against muslims?! If you say no, then let's just be clear here, you ARE NOT opposed to bullying and threatening muslims, because they are muslims, because people RIGHTLY state that such actions are islamophobic bigotry. You know what that means, you aren't against bullying or threats, you're against muslims. Period. End of story. Now, answer the question, yes or no.
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@SLAM234 That's totally false. First of all "islam" is not rife with human rights abuses, it's a religion, not a country, not a political regime, so that statement makes no logical sense. It is true that US sponsored dictators in muslim countries abuse human rights, and maybe you'd like to blame that on muslims and claim that anyone who objects is being silly, well, I'd rather blame the dictators themselves and I'm not buying that you can generalize about people and not be a bigot.
@SLAM234 Are you? Are you against those things when it comes to muslims? I'm not talking about those imaginary muslims taking over the world and telling everyone what to do, I'm talking about the muslims who walk down the street in small towns in england and get rocks thrown at them for being muslims.
@UrbanGuerilla88 it was on the original vinyl release but removed from the CD release for religious requests. The Koran/Quran is not supposed to be used for anything but for religious purposes.
I think they removed it more out of respect for a faith rather than for threats as the CD version was released way before Islam was represented by any hyper religious figures
@UrbanGuerilla88 This is track 6 on the 1981 cd edition on Sire / reg.nr.6093-2. I checked eBay and you can buy there at $6,95. The record is not complete without it!
@SLAM234 As to a source of dislike to such a track I think it would help to understand why the association would make a request that it be omitted. Some people may be sensitive to the idea that people would take words they hold dear to themselves and use them to make a track to dance too, or as could very likely be the case, do "other" things to. Living in a democratic society is not only about the ability to say as we please, but about the respect for those others that exist in that society.
@meedow99 No I think you are very much mistaken, and I agree with SLAM. It is a travesty what is being done in the name of Islam, the atrocities that still take place to this day, the terrorism, the bullying, the intimidation. Using verses from the Quran is not the least bit "disrespectful" but what is are organizations who threaten and intimidate people into silence and scare people into censoring their own material. It's discraceful and people need to wake up and start SPEAKING up.
@TheDaddyDank I agree, the things being done in the name of Islam is a travesty, but to begin calling Islam a "dark force" supposes that Islam calls for such travesties. Worse things have been done under the banner of Christianity and atheism, yet is Islam that has the curious position of the being the dark religion rising from the East in the West. Secondly, how do you figure that using verses from the Qur'an is not "disrespectful" to some? -continued-
@TheDaddyDank Again, these are words people hold dear to themselves, words that are sacred, and now they are used in a song for entertainment. I think anyone can see how some might be offended by that. Again, you say it was intimidation that made Bynre and Eno omit the track. I still ask for a source that contains words from either of these artists, or their producers, that says they did it due to intimidaiton. -continued-
@meedow99 I liked this song when I heard it first time, and Iike it now. But I did not knew that Qu'ran is another word for the german Koran. I think to play this song is the same as playing ping-pong on a grave yard.
Conecting "please do not fool around with my feelings" and " the things some did in the name of Islam..." is a real shit.
@TheDaddyDank It reminds me of the time O'Conner tore the picture of the Pope on SNL. There was a great big uproar. I'm sure people who detest Christianity called the results of that event bullying, but I'm sure most Christians see the act is needlessly disrespectful. I'm not saying Byrne and Eno's track is at the same level, but it is about some level of respect for the people that coexist in your society. As Muslims should show others as well.
@TheDaddyDank You also mentioned speaking up. I agree whole heartedly Muslims should do more. There are two problems, though. The first is that Muslim scholars and moderate Muslim leaders are not given access to the media, such as, say, a Robertson or O'Reilly. Second, the times Muslims do speak out about such things all I witness myself is further resentment from non-Muslims. Also, speaking out is not reserved for Muslims. I'm sure we are all -c-
@meedow99 aware of the acts of other nations, including the US, European powers, China, Israel, etc. No, no one has clean hands these days, not the Muslim community, not the Christian community, not the Jewish community, not the atheist community, not any community.
@meedow99 The Muslim Councils request of Eno and Byrne was a bad one, and no doubt they were intimidated and threatened enough to remove the song. Once again it falls in the laps of Non-Muslims to speak out, so they can then be targeted by people like you as "Islamaphobes" or "racists". The problem with that is: I am neither. I have fought my whole life against racism and human oppression. And I won't be silenced by aggressive Jihadists OR silent enablers within Islam. PS: Sinead was right.
@TheDaddyDank I don't recall calling you an Islamaphobe. If you are referring to SLAM, his words speak enough. Again, with the no doubt they were intimidated as though you hadn't read a word I had written. Please, provide me a source for this intimidation, because I am just as likely to believe they were showing respect to the others they coexist with. You then say you have fought against racism and human oppression. You won't be silenced by -c-
@TheDaddyDank Jihadists or enablers. Since I am the one you are talking to I would assume you are talking about me. I don't know if I need to point out the juxtaposition of those two comments. Why won't you speak to my suggestion about living in respect for those around you? Not doing that makes you appear, to me, more interested in slandering an association/people. If you are really as altruistic as you say, you would at the very least discuss my points while talking with me.
@meedow99 Speaking the TRUTH is far from "slander". In fact I'd say that your use of the word here is pretty slanderous. Those who speak against radical Islam do so with very good reason, and nothing you've said about the subject has changed that reality.
@TheDaddyDank However, I sense you are getting more excited with each post. I think it would be best that, if the discussion does not stay civil between the two of us, it should be avoided. Heated discussions that ignore logic tend to serve only to benefit those that want to ignore that logic.
@SLAM234 Too many people like yourself, who lack knowledge on the subject and merely base their facts on truncated bits of information and ideas extrapolated from those bits, speak as though their ideas are well founded on such topics as Islam, or any topic of any field. I'm a firm believer that, unless you have actually (and without a bias slant or purely bias sources) studied the topic, you should really avoid delving into discussions of it. It only leads to confusion.
@SLAM234 Second, I'd like to speak an opinion about you. You say people shouldn't have to be scared of Islam as they are. Again, you also said Islam was a dark force. It leads me to two conclusion: A) You, yourself, are scared of the religion (which I doubt you would deny) and B) You know very little of not only the religion, but also the effects political, cultural, social, and economic forces have on people of the predominantly Muslim regions and regions in which they are a minority.
@SLAM234 You say you aren't anti-Muslim, yet I read (paraphrased) "Islam is a dark force". I'm not aware of the stories surrounding the removal of this track, but unless you provide me a link where Byrne and Eno say, for themselves, that they were "initimidated" it's just as equally plausible that Byrne and Eno decided to omit the track out of respect for who they believed spoke for the Muslim community in that area (not that I would personally mind such a track).
SO..... for all the Muslim council of Greater Bradistan's efforts, people STILL seek out this track because they wish to hear purely a good bit of music. NOT tainted by the Bradistani council of nazi verboten, (for that it what they mean) but people STILL WANT TO HEAR THIS TRACK! Fuckem.
I have cut this album to CD in its original form. Bollocks to any religious groups. YOU DON'T HEAR THE CATHOLICS COMPLAINING about their religious chanting being composed to a recording, do you? You don't hear the Shinduists coming round your way shattering sheetglass in the shithouse complaining about this music. The Athiests don't come knocking on my door demanding retribution for reasons unknown..... If only I had some kind of missile, I could take those churches down.....
@SLAM234 that council doesnt represent Islam, only its members. Moderate muslims should speak up & not let these councils & fanatics take over their voice.
@DailyBrusher The veiled threat came from "Muslim Council of Great Britain" and it said "We consider this blasphemy that you put grooves to the chanting of the Holy Book" About it, Byrne wrote; "Okay, in deference to somebody's religion, we'll take it off... I think we were certainly feeling very cautious about this whole thing." I call that fear.
@StanleyT123 the problems in the UK is caused almost entirely by Pakistani muslims, sadly, they know little & cannot understand the quran in its original language, thus they are easily duped into believing what is said to them.
How do you know it was "fear," and not a sincere wish to be respectful, and avoid offense? What is your evidence? Have you spoken to Byrne or Eno? Care to share a published interview that discusses this in detail? Or, are you just jerking off, like Stanley?
and one more thing I'm a muslim and I'm not offended by this song. I think it's beautiful..and I'm sure the musicians did not mean to insult nor disrespect muslims. but unlike other groups, muslims hold great respect for their beliefs, messengers and Quran..they strive on protecting them from mistreatment,misunderstanding and misinterpretation and for that reason they don't accept such songs. it's that simple.. not really a matter of war or superiority as many of you think. please have respect.
its funny, I live next to a mosque and I hear readings of the Qu'ran all day and night, whether I want to or not, I don't know how anyone can find it offensive that the words of a supposed god are set to such beautiful music. Islam is supposed to be a religion of tolerance, but Muslims are the first to get upset when somebody does something that may not even be intentionally provoking or insulting. Prove to the world Islam is a religion of tolerance and start practicing what you preach.
@intermodal . well said man beheading should be the last form of tolerance . forgive me but do mosquitos come from mosques. if so are there muslim insects too.
This song was on the original album. Back then it was totally acceptable as a part of the work of art, this album was, but now it is not? Suddenly tracks have to be removed from albums, out of respct and so as not to upset? This is so wrong.
@djbethell We're talking about the original vinyl from 1981? I have it, and I recall no controversy over it what so ever. I don't think I've ever seen the vinyl without this track. The track was played frequently on the radio, and there was no hint of a problem back then. Recent times have become more sensitive to "religious insults".
@genglemt "Way back when the record first came out, in 1981, it might have been '82, we got a request from an Islamic organization in London, and they said, 'We consider this blasphemy that you put grooves to the chanting of the Holy Book.' And we thought, 'Okay, in deference to somebody's religion, we'll take it off.'
David Byrne.
Vinyl copies you see with the Qu'ran are all from 1981. Subsequent releases of MLITBOG post-1981 are all without this track. Salman Rushdie was only 7 yrs away!!!
@djbethell I find it offensive that Muslims appear on television with such strange beards. When will somebody listen to MY point of view and have them remove their strange facial hair?
The most amazing pre-digital studio album ever produced, both in terms of the music and the ground breaking production. The crowning creative and technical achievement of analogue recording.
@Noisegator Not to be pedantic, but this album might of employed some very early digital technology, just from how some of the effects sound in some of the songs (i.e., the vocal "stuttering" in "Very, Very Hungry"). It could of likely been done either with a Farliight CMI or a Lexicon effects processor, both of which were introduced shortly before the album's production/release. Or either some very intricate razor-blade or deck-to-deck tape editing was involved. Can anyone confirm this?
@pvx Not pedantic at all, I was speaking from memory.
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According to wikipedia, the only synthesizers present were played by Eno (as expected), though it is not specified there if early digital synths were used.
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Byrne affirms that the recording and mix was entirely analogue technology, i.e. magnetic tape. They used tape loops, "flying in" and a certain reliance on serendipity since things like time correction were not available. I haven't read anything about direct splicing of the multi-track.
@Noisegator Interesting, I was not aware of that, it would make sense that it would be all analog, considering that not every recording studio in 1981 had a CMI or similar gear (due to its initially high cost).
The effects used on the album are kind of in the same vein as Jean-Jacques Perrey's "Gossipo Perpetuo", which was mostly made from tape edits. (I'm wondering if Brian & David might of made some tracks on a separate spliced tape, and then possibly dubbed it to the multi-track?)
Like Brian Eno and David Byrne ...I too am an abject narcissist...but without fame or money...As David said about this album..."We (him and Brian Eno) made this album about textures not politics."
Always loved this amazing track. I love the way they have incorporated the Qur'an into the music. It makes it sound so powerful! I think that people who have a problem with that are maybe a little bit pedantic.
ah, nothing like a Mirror held up to the ever-imagined 'jihad'....funny, how many fanatics hate this song existing....it actually made me lean towards sufism long ago...and then into it...and out....and on....and under....and etc ;)
@Nawnaweenoo I have respect for all people's religiuos choices. I own a Qu'ran in both arabic and english. I ask you respectfully because I want to understand. Yes,this song takes words from the Muslim religion and adds music to it. I think it is a very beautiful thing..a new way to enjoy and celebrate words from the Qu'ran. Why exactly do Muslims find the use of the words offensive? Peace.
Whatever you might want to say about the decision made by Byrne & Eno, I would guess it's safe to guess that they are brighter and deeper thinkers than you are. So, watch, listen and learn from their example. Sad that humility has become so anachronistic.
Stanley, like I said - observe and learn. These two guys are successful, admired and respected, and have managed to sustain their careers over decades. You might learn something if you pay attention, rather than mouthing off. I'm going to keep my eye on Byrne and Eno, and very soon I will forget all about you.
Beautiful music! I wish they had a longer collaboration as the two 'Eschers of music' can produce something truly other-worldly when combined. But then I wish D.B. would have a UK tour :( sometime in my lifetime or at least one date...His blog is excellent though...
mgollogly1 1 week ago
insanely amazing stuff here.
LODATO1 3 weeks ago
Byrne and Eano are genius, together! Who gives a fuck anyway if some idiots don't like this ? it's fascinating, like a sideral rocking chair!
If you have to prey, take some acid, listen this, and you'll hear god.
MrGranousty 1 month ago
the best song on album ...mesmerizing ...
2b0rn0t0b 1 month ago
om shanti
mrdoz47 1 month ago
lm not familiar with Byrne's work outside of Talking Heads.....anybody got any suggestions where to start?
guertin11 2 months ago
Not Byrne's best work, probably among his worst. I love his desire to always work on new sounds and music. Some times they work, some times their genius and some times they turn out to be bad elevator music like this song/album.
WalangDiyos 2 months ago
@WalangDiyos This is the best thing Byrne did outside Talking Heads. Get your head examined WangDangDiyoyo.
malkooth 2 months ago
@malkooth Funny I'm just making my opinion known and you in turn launch a personal attack on my intelligence. I have no further comment. Good day. Peace!
WalangDiyos 2 months ago
@WalangDiyos My Life in the Bush of Ghosts was and still is one of the great achievements of modern music. Byrne/Eno reached the pinnacle in Remain in Light and kept the same high level in Ghosts. I thought so then and I still think so now.
fishnose1 1 month ago 3
First met this amazing album teaching English in Northern Sudan. Am still as blown away by it as then - over 20 years ago!
arsenal1789 1 month ago 2
Un grand disque inspiré, avec du souffle.
marcfrancoisrouleau 2 months ago
Gods Kill.
mavrogenis1960 2 months ago
I`m Peter Blackpool, singer and mysterious person. People think they know me but i`m afraid that`s not possible. First of all, i am created by David(name) and Don (action developper) and Peter himself as Mr. P. Blackpool.our search for `the ultimate reallife live show`whitch we are developping under the workingtitel `tipje va We are hoping that we can schedule our interview with you tonight. Can you contact us, or can i just drop in? See `ya `luv!
Yours truly, with regards,
Do
MrPeterblackpool 3 months ago
Anyone who tries to make this about religion is retarded. Shut up and enjoy this beautiful song.
rml5039 3 months ago
this is amazing , a nice song, even if verses of qu'ran don't have to be in a song , but el tajwid ... it's Ok :)
psycosid66 3 months ago
No bullshit!
If it is your values as it was the values of parerents and you carry them: LIVE IT.
Fools that urge for secularity and socilalism , rejectors of the simpliest truth, are on the muslim front. Let them have their "Ni Dieu , ni maître" and "L'enfer c'est les autres", what they need to prove everyday, let them live their shit in hell, not here.
Fools do not know what they do, but that is obvious.
kjallesoft 4 months ago
Just glad to find this here to save me ripping the original vinyl. By the way the source of the chanting sample was a legitimately released LP, but before the polarisation of religious politics we have now.
enterprise1954 4 months ago
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The koran: a vain and futile attempt to clothe an otherwise naked and empty philosophy in some semblance of scientific credibility by invoking itself as its own written authority!
becharev 5 months ago
And of course there's a religious debate in the comments.
There should be a word for religion trolls.
drikou 5 months ago
nice tune
1herbiekritzer 5 months ago
If we judged Christianity by the behaviour of the Church over the past, say, 1800 years, we would assume that it is a monstrous religion, composed of meglomanical murderers. Do you have any idea how many people, Muslims and Jews and Christians, have been murdered by the Church over that time? Don't judge a religion by those who pervert its true nature. Allahu Akbar!~!by the way, I'm Jewish.
nicodagger 5 months ago 7
@nicodagger The main reason Christians don't go around proselytising and murdering infidels is because they (thankfully), separated church and state. If they wouldn't have, then their behaviour would not be much different than the moslems. As far as the TRUE NATURE OF islam is concerned, that was exemplified by mohammed, who was a TERRORIST and a MURDERER, running around the world sowing MAYHEM for the purpose of CONVERSION!
Jakob1951 5 months ago
@Jakob1951
I am a christian from the UK.Christians murder each other around these parts-or at least they did in the disputed province of Northern Ireland for many years-while all this was happening , public fundraisers were being held in New York and the US to support the irish "freedom-fighters" aka terrorists.Also christian fundamentalists have killed abortionists in the USA because they disagree with their practises.The recent massacre in Scandinavia was done by a "christian".fundamentalist
bankruptstate 4 months ago
@bankruptstate
my comment was actually aimed at "nicodagger" and not you :)
bankruptstate 4 months ago
@bankruptstate Ok. And your point is? Christians still carry out massacres despite separating church from state, right? Yes, but they don't go around violently proselytising like Moslems do. And, most terrorist acts around the world are still carried out by ... MOSLEMS! Do you smell the huka?
Jakob1951 4 months ago
@Jakob1951 It's Muslim, son. That's why your argument lacks validity. As an American and a Christian, its necessary for me to stand for something greater than myself. I smell something more rotten than Jakob. The acceptance and appreciation of ignorance, is more disconcerting. What do you know about Islam, Jakob?
Dactuck 3 months ago
@Dactuck No, it''s also MOSLEM daddyO! And that's why my argument lacks validity???!!! If ignorance is disconcerting, then INFORM yourself properly. Try this: Moslems just casually accept the testimony of ONE illiterate man ALONE in the desert. Do you smell a LIE? You should. THE Divine Revelation (The Torah) was revealed in front of MORE THAN 1,000,000 people! Do you get the point? Let's not forget the ROUTINE LIES Moslems repeat ad nauseaum about the M.E. conflict. Put that in your MILLER BEER
Jakob1951 3 months ago
@Jakob1951
You are an ignoramous...by the way , if there is a Hell it will be populated by bigots such as yourself.
Religious extremism is dangerous in all forms.
bankruptstate 2 weeks ago
@bankruptstate LOL!!! Boy it took you a long time to respond. Is that the best you can do? Because I use the term "MOSLEM", therefore I'm a bigot?! What kind of FLATULANT argument is that? Answer this: why do so-called peaceful Moslems remain silent when a minority of their bretheren are running around the world STABBING, SHOOTING, BOMBING AND TERRORIZING humanity? Hmmm; guess who really is going to Hell?
Jakob1951 2 weeks ago
@Jakob1951
Wow , I am impressed -you used the term "minority" when mentioning muslim terrorists-maybe there is hope for you yet-you mention the Torah,I would be surprised if the Torah preaches religious hatred. I spent years in Israel working/ living with Israelis/ Arabs. The vast majority live and work side by side without issues despite their idealogical differences,although there idiot extremists on both sides. You have a lot of hatred in you ...were you abused as a child ?
bankruptstate 1 week ago
@bankruptstate Working side-by-side with the Jews does not necessarily indicate the Moslems' true feelings, because the rank and file don't protest terrorist acts, EVEN AGAINST THEIR OWN! Therefore, they not only tacitly approve of terrorism against the infidels, but they are also GUILTY of such acts. After all, they are just FOLLOWING THE WAYS OF THEIR FOUNDER - mohammed. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Jakob1951 1 week ago
too many comments tend to move away from the beauty of the song.
Why, just listen to it, It's great!
phlypped 6 months ago
Sure is cold in here tonight... can somebody turn off the hasbara and islamophobia, please...?
sweetsingeruk 7 months ago
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@SLAM234 Why aren't all the Christian moderates battling to take down 'The Family' then? Idiot.
azyeennekun 7 months ago
I'm Muslim, and I'm NOT offended at all. I think music is a beautiful gift from Allah (swt) but unfortunately it's being abused by industry-churned fake models who sell their auto-tuned crap and get rich off it. Listen to thoughtful and talented artists like Brian Eno, not Britney Spears and Lady Gaga :D
azyeennekun 7 months ago 27
@azyeennekun
You are AWESOME! Such a shame Qu'ran was not on the anniversary album.
Oh well, at least it's in Blade Runner!
aeopmusic 7 months ago in playlist trance
byrne was very aware of what was to come. take a listen to 'wind in my heart' and even 'life during wartime' again,.you will come to find that he was very hip to the future
crazytrain7114 7 months ago
This is just absolutely beautiful, eerie, haunting music. Love this entire album. Genius at work.
bushwickgirl347 10 months ago 2
Ffs, lightly browsed below.., religion.. Fuck off and lighten up.. Top tune, quality art, in fact beautiful.
heliumscream 10 months ago
big problem is sorting out the good guys from the bad. I say "problem" but not my problem. The problem lies fairly and squarely in the lap of the good muslims who have allowed the evil guys to hijack their religion !
See you on the other side, whatever the outcome !
titshit 10 months ago
The song Izambra is from a famous poem and it rocks.
selmore7463 10 months ago
Some really sad people discussing wether a great song offends, I'll play what I want to play and I don't give a fuck if people are offended. this is genious.....by two extremely cultured artists.
MetalMachineManiac 10 months ago
Beautiful Song.
QP.
QuanPete 11 months ago
people still dont get that the "religion" i like is my business and not theirs...whatever iam muslim,christ or whatever its my business..hope everybody got it now, just a religion nothing interesting lol
ThaSK8M8 11 months ago
The chants by Dunya Yasin are Islamic calls to prayer, but the fact that middle eastern style tones and languages are used is not necessarily indicative that the work is Musim music. Haters should try to appreciate the art for arts sake, anything less is wasting time with those who have'nt the mind or soul to appreciate art. Do paintings of naked ladies offend you too? This album was the finest collection of tracks eno and byrne produced, fripp makes magic too.
gr8skpz 11 months ago 3
@gr8skpz This track makes me want to become Muslim.
DarkquestDeathhunter 11 months ago
The opening seconds sound like the soundtrack to Ghostbusters. Brilliant song!
quidseeker 11 months ago
I met Brian Eno when he came to my country, spoke to him, in fact we had a few drinks and a smoke, and he doesn't hate Muslims, in case any of you is wondering...
amir071 1 year ago
I am Muslim and I don't feel offended in any way by this song, on the contrary, I'm flattered that these two musical genii took an interest. Please don't confuse Islam and Muslims with the CIA created and trained terrorists such as Talibans or 'Al Qaida'. Saudis are not representative of Islam either, in fact many many Muslimsare disgusted with them. If they weren't such a good ally to US they would've been removed a long time ago, along with all other puppet regimes designed and kept by CIA...
amir071 1 year ago 142
@amir071 First, this is not the version that was deleted. If you're interested in hearing it, let me know.
Secondly, the original version was deleted willingly, voluntarily, and, in fact, enthusiastically by the artists, according to the reports I've heard. The last thing that either Eno or Byrne wanted to do was to offend someone, particularly a spiritual group. "Intimidation rioting" (as I call it) was unknown in 1981. The "Hostage Crisis" in Iran had only recently been resolved.
cliffwalkinfool 11 months ago
@cliffwalkinfool I want to hear it please
SolsburyHill22 11 months ago
@amir071 Bravo for this words! :D
mumu867 11 months ago
@amir071 Okay, this is music, let's drop all political-religious aspects for now: this, to my western ears has a distinctly middle eastern sound. Yet how would I know? Byrne+eno understand the sound of music better than most of us- it's so cool to listen to this art--- a creating of a whole feeling simply from sound.
This is using the mind- the thing you were given with absolutely no way of arguing. Use it well, use it for your own growth. Why else were you given this incredible gift?
xyaqua 11 months ago
@amir071
Though I am an atheist and think that religion is the bane of humankind, I appreciate your insight into the REAL politics that are going on...from a muslim's point of view!
Bongofury361 10 months ago
@Bongofury361 - I think the same about atheism but the underlying point is that we are all humans and we should all really learn how to appreciate each other for what we are and not for what we believe in or don't. This piece of music in particular is, in my mind, a bridge over that river that separates us. Peace on you!
amir071 10 months ago
@amir071 It's refreshing to hear something real, thank you
drogheda1966 9 months ago 2
@amir071
Well, seeing that the Taliban -- and certainly not Al Qaida -- are not "Regimes", your comment, although initially refreshing and welcome from a Muslim, loses credibility when you blame the US for their existence.
The same old line.
All I can say to you is if Egypt kicked out Mubarak, and Libya and Yemen are earnestly working on ousting Gaddafi and Salah, then the PEOPLE of the Middle East can oust the cancer that is destabilizing the entire world. Or simply quit joining their ranks.
nofs2003 9 months ago
@nofs2003 Yes, but the point he's making is that your sick country, is the problem. You supported and funded all of the people on that list. If your a citizen of the great USA that is......
JonnyCashmore 9 months ago 2
@nofs2003 - I do feel sorry for any silly little brainwashed kid like you, it won't be easy for you, once you wake up to reality...
amir071 9 months ago
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mousegeek 9 months ago
@amir071
Yeah you're right all the violence and horror is everyone else's fault because the Koran is packed full of 6th Century 'wisdom' Bible-junk and it's the true word of god. Muhammed couldn't possibly have made it all up like the Mormon nut Joseph Smith did. We know god's real because god proves this by never revealing himself and never coming to anyone's aid. There is no god. Religious people need to grow up. Muslims butcher other Muslims without the help of the CIA.
mousegeek 9 months ago
@mousegeek Telling religious people that "there is no God" is not likely to win you the argument dearie.
CecilyHeron 7 months ago
@amir071
I hear you my brother!
As-Salamu Alaykum!
barakobama 7 months ago
@amir071 You are also out to lunch here if you believe that the CIA trained Muslim terrorists. Islam has been terrorizing and murdering infidels since its inception! And yes, Mohammed was the premier terrorist, leading his hordes against the neighbouring countries where he lived. There were and are many Islamic nations who are (were) not allies of the U.S., and were (are) involved in terrorism. Don't you know your religion and its history?
Jakob1951 7 months ago
@Jakob1951 LIVING IS EASY WITH EYES CLOSED....
IDNHN 7 months ago
@IDNHN I don't know what you are referring to here, but if it's the attitude of politically correct people, then you're right. So the solution is ... OPEN YOUR EYES and see the jihad.
Jakob1951 6 months ago
@Jakob1951 dude I'm a Muslim....U really think that you know "JIHAD" more than me?.....u OPEN YOUR EYES and stop listening to what "Bush" tells/told.....p.s. I really don't like arguing about "Religion" but cuz I think everybody is free but you crossed my freedom limit that's why I "responded" to u.....peace :D
IDNHN 6 months ago
@IDNHN Well dude, you're free to practice your religion, EXCEPT when what you do (i.e. jihad against infidels), directly threatens my life: capiche? If you are truly peaceful, then REIGN IN your Moslem brothers who are running around the world stabbing, shooting and bombing people into submission!
Jakob1951 6 months ago
@Jakob1951 why u r so sure they are Muslims??? what if they are just "CIA" people and they'r trying to show u the wrong "Islam" that u r talking about..........y don't u check "Islam" for urself and then "Argue" with me :)
IDNHN 6 months ago
@IDNHN LOL!!! And maybe they aren't Moslems, but LITTLE GREEN MEN FROM MARS! I mean, get REAL man.The reason people are suspicious, is because SO-CALLED peaceful Moslems tacitly support MAYHEM, TERROR and MURDER!!! Get your act together and then we can talk.
Jakob1951 5 months ago
@amir071
Saudis and their other friends do give Islam a bad name. What nobody seems to point out is that there is a billion Muslims in the world, if those regimes were to represent all of Islam, there would be a lot more trouble.
I've been to "Muslim countries" and felt very welcomed. Great people and food. One man in Egypt threatened to cut my head off while he was passing by. I laughed and my Egyptian friend laughed too, that guy was just an ass. Tarring people with the same brush is bad.
trollfinger 6 months ago
@amir071 music shout bring people together and with musicians like byrne and eno music can bring the world together, i lived for severel years in the middle east and played music with diverent cultures non of us had a problem with the religion others where brought up by, we did not care we loved making music and had fun,
btw it was a moslim, jew, christian band and we all brought in some of our of our cultural music,
god doesn't makes the diverent people does. oh jeah fuck politics
phader075 6 months ago 2
@phader075 i could not agree more with you, GOD loves to boogie and let peace be upon you!
rvanluttervelt 6 months ago
@amir071 Okay.
thestranger11 6 months ago
@amir071
This is the most beautiful thing I've read on youtube tonight.
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@amir071
Nobody gives a fuck whether you are offended or not.
FEMADEATHCAMPCONTROL 2 months ago
@amir071 Ima christian, and I dont either feel offended.
orolfstolle 2 weeks ago
i had this album--tape really--when this song was on it. shame that it was censored. glad it's on the 'tube. this is such a milestone in 20thC music.
kara65louky 1 year ago
I love this piece, and I love this album...
I'm gathering from the comments that this song is no longer on the album, due to pressure from islamofascists? If that is the case, that's a fucking shame!
We should just drop a neutron bomb on the middle east, and be done with israel and a large percentage of the world's muslims!
Bongofury361 1 year ago
@Bongofury361 - and you call someone a fascist?!?! What does that make you then?
amir071 1 year ago
@amir071 I just gave you a thumbs up on your latest comment, and then I realized you were the guy who wrote the nasty response to MY comment! If I offended you, too bad, but you don't sound like you're an orthodox muslim, anyway, as you smoke and drink. I believe religion is the bane of humankind, and the sooner people stop worshiping a god that doesn't exist, the better the world will be!
Bongofury361 11 months ago 2
@SLAM234 The Religion of Peace..... ?
beelzabubba 1 year ago 3
@SLAM234 So you can only get this on the original?
SVTDEMON420 1 year ago
Beautiful music, not political not religious, just amazingly creative!
SubliminalAttraction 1 year ago
what about the catherine wheel
unclecider 1 year ago
I think people need to stop bringing hate and aggression into what is simply a beutiful piece of music.
Iammusicmad1 1 year ago 3
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@SLAM234 Try not being an ignorant racist.
n8glenn 1 year ago
@SLAM234 Yeah, you won't answer my question, and that tells me everything I need to know, you're just a bigot. Furthermore, if you take issue with the idea that the US funds and sponsors and protects the dictators (not religions) that are actually abusing people, then you need to educate yourself. Look up Hosney Mubarack, or maybe the Saudi Royal family, and tell me who gives them money every year. End of story.
n8glenn 1 year ago
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@SLAM234 Again, I ask you a simple question, are you against those things when they are done against muslims?! If you say no, then let's just be clear here, you ARE NOT opposed to bullying and threatening muslims, because they are muslims, because people RIGHTLY state that such actions are islamophobic bigotry. You know what that means, you aren't against bullying or threats, you're against muslims. Period. End of story. Now, answer the question, yes or no.
n8glenn 1 year ago
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@SLAM234 That's totally false. First of all "islam" is not rife with human rights abuses, it's a religion, not a country, not a political regime, so that statement makes no logical sense. It is true that US sponsored dictators in muslim countries abuse human rights, and maybe you'd like to blame that on muslims and claim that anyone who objects is being silly, well, I'd rather blame the dictators themselves and I'm not buying that you can generalize about people and not be a bigot.
n8glenn 1 year ago
@SLAM234 Are you? Are you against those things when it comes to muslims? I'm not talking about those imaginary muslims taking over the world and telling everyone what to do, I'm talking about the muslims who walk down the street in small towns in england and get rocks thrown at them for being muslims.
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lapzap56 1 year ago
why isnt this song on my cd "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts" ?
UrbanGuerilla88 1 year ago
@UrbanGuerilla88 it was on the original vinyl release but removed from the CD release for religious requests. The Koran/Quran is not supposed to be used for anything but for religious purposes.
I think they removed it more out of respect for a faith rather than for threats as the CD version was released way before Islam was represented by any hyper religious figures
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lapzap56 1 year ago
@UrbanGuerilla88 This is track 6 on the 1981 cd edition on Sire / reg.nr.6093-2. I checked eBay and you can buy there at $6,95. The record is not complete without it!
lapzap56 1 year ago
@SLAM234 Having said all that....These two have made a pretty good album.
meedow99 1 year ago
@SLAM234 As to a source of dislike to such a track I think it would help to understand why the association would make a request that it be omitted. Some people may be sensitive to the idea that people would take words they hold dear to themselves and use them to make a track to dance too, or as could very likely be the case, do "other" things to. Living in a democratic society is not only about the ability to say as we please, but about the respect for those others that exist in that society.
meedow99 1 year ago
@meedow99 No I think you are very much mistaken, and I agree with SLAM. It is a travesty what is being done in the name of Islam, the atrocities that still take place to this day, the terrorism, the bullying, the intimidation. Using verses from the Quran is not the least bit "disrespectful" but what is are organizations who threaten and intimidate people into silence and scare people into censoring their own material. It's discraceful and people need to wake up and start SPEAKING up.
TheDaddyDank 1 year ago 5
@TheDaddyDank I agree, the things being done in the name of Islam is a travesty, but to begin calling Islam a "dark force" supposes that Islam calls for such travesties. Worse things have been done under the banner of Christianity and atheism, yet is Islam that has the curious position of the being the dark religion rising from the East in the West. Secondly, how do you figure that using verses from the Qur'an is not "disrespectful" to some? -continued-
meedow99 1 year ago
@TheDaddyDank Again, these are words people hold dear to themselves, words that are sacred, and now they are used in a song for entertainment. I think anyone can see how some might be offended by that. Again, you say it was intimidation that made Bynre and Eno omit the track. I still ask for a source that contains words from either of these artists, or their producers, that says they did it due to intimidaiton. -continued-
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@meedow99 I liked this song when I heard it first time, and Iike it now. But I did not knew that Qu'ran is another word for the german Koran. I think to play this song is the same as playing ping-pong on a grave yard.
Conecting "please do not fool around with my feelings" and " the things some did in the name of Islam..." is a real shit.
Pfnord 1 year ago
@TheDaddyDank It reminds me of the time O'Conner tore the picture of the Pope on SNL. There was a great big uproar. I'm sure people who detest Christianity called the results of that event bullying, but I'm sure most Christians see the act is needlessly disrespectful. I'm not saying Byrne and Eno's track is at the same level, but it is about some level of respect for the people that coexist in your society. As Muslims should show others as well.
meedow99 1 year ago
@TheDaddyDank You also mentioned speaking up. I agree whole heartedly Muslims should do more. There are two problems, though. The first is that Muslim scholars and moderate Muslim leaders are not given access to the media, such as, say, a Robertson or O'Reilly. Second, the times Muslims do speak out about such things all I witness myself is further resentment from non-Muslims. Also, speaking out is not reserved for Muslims. I'm sure we are all -c-
meedow99 1 year ago
@meedow99 aware of the acts of other nations, including the US, European powers, China, Israel, etc. No, no one has clean hands these days, not the Muslim community, not the Christian community, not the Jewish community, not the atheist community, not any community.
meedow99 1 year ago
@meedow99 The Muslim Councils request of Eno and Byrne was a bad one, and no doubt they were intimidated and threatened enough to remove the song. Once again it falls in the laps of Non-Muslims to speak out, so they can then be targeted by people like you as "Islamaphobes" or "racists". The problem with that is: I am neither. I have fought my whole life against racism and human oppression. And I won't be silenced by aggressive Jihadists OR silent enablers within Islam. PS: Sinead was right.
TheDaddyDank 1 year ago 7
@TheDaddyDank I don't recall calling you an Islamaphobe. If you are referring to SLAM, his words speak enough. Again, with the no doubt they were intimidated as though you hadn't read a word I had written. Please, provide me a source for this intimidation, because I am just as likely to believe they were showing respect to the others they coexist with. You then say you have fought against racism and human oppression. You won't be silenced by -c-
meedow99 1 year ago
@TheDaddyDank Jihadists or enablers. Since I am the one you are talking to I would assume you are talking about me. I don't know if I need to point out the juxtaposition of those two comments. Why won't you speak to my suggestion about living in respect for those around you? Not doing that makes you appear, to me, more interested in slandering an association/people. If you are really as altruistic as you say, you would at the very least discuss my points while talking with me.
meedow99 1 year ago
@meedow99 Speaking the TRUTH is far from "slander". In fact I'd say that your use of the word here is pretty slanderous. Those who speak against radical Islam do so with very good reason, and nothing you've said about the subject has changed that reality.
TheDaddyDank 1 year ago 6
@TheDaddyDank However, I sense you are getting more excited with each post. I think it would be best that, if the discussion does not stay civil between the two of us, it should be avoided. Heated discussions that ignore logic tend to serve only to benefit those that want to ignore that logic.
meedow99 1 year ago
@meedow99 I also think I'm taking up too much space with my essay responses on this page.
meedow99 1 year ago
@SLAM234 Too many people like yourself, who lack knowledge on the subject and merely base their facts on truncated bits of information and ideas extrapolated from those bits, speak as though their ideas are well founded on such topics as Islam, or any topic of any field. I'm a firm believer that, unless you have actually (and without a bias slant or purely bias sources) studied the topic, you should really avoid delving into discussions of it. It only leads to confusion.
meedow99 1 year ago
@SLAM234 Second, I'd like to speak an opinion about you. You say people shouldn't have to be scared of Islam as they are. Again, you also said Islam was a dark force. It leads me to two conclusion: A) You, yourself, are scared of the religion (which I doubt you would deny) and B) You know very little of not only the religion, but also the effects political, cultural, social, and economic forces have on people of the predominantly Muslim regions and regions in which they are a minority.
meedow99 1 year ago
@SLAM234 You say you aren't anti-Muslim, yet I read (paraphrased) "Islam is a dark force". I'm not aware of the stories surrounding the removal of this track, but unless you provide me a link where Byrne and Eno say, for themselves, that they were "initimidated" it's just as equally plausible that Byrne and Eno decided to omit the track out of respect for who they believed spoke for the Muslim community in that area (not that I would personally mind such a track).
meedow99 1 year ago
i can't decide whether this song or 'regiment' is the best on the album......ARRRRGH! what a dilemma! :)
CrimsonKing73 1 year ago 3
SO..... for all the Muslim council of Greater Bradistan's efforts, people STILL seek out this track because they wish to hear purely a good bit of music. NOT tainted by the Bradistani council of nazi verboten, (for that it what they mean) but people STILL WANT TO HEAR THIS TRACK! Fuckem.
TheLittleMuc 1 year ago 3
I have cut this album to CD in its original form. Bollocks to any religious groups. YOU DON'T HEAR THE CATHOLICS COMPLAINING about their religious chanting being composed to a recording, do you? You don't hear the Shinduists coming round your way shattering sheetglass in the shithouse complaining about this music. The Athiests don't come knocking on my door demanding retribution for reasons unknown..... If only I had some kind of missile, I could take those churches down.....
TheLittleMuc 1 year ago
let`s just listen to this album as it is, an experiment of different cultures and sounds
zenofmusic 1 year ago 2
@SLAM234 that council doesnt represent Islam, only its members. Moderate muslims should speak up & not let these councils & fanatics take over their voice.
Doomshark3 1 year ago 7
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A number of people are trying to use this comment section as a forum for bigoted, anti-Muslim views, arguing that Byrne & Eno were intimidated into
removing this track from later releases of My Life ....
You can read about it in their own words - just Google Byrne Eno interview and Freemuse and see the well-sourced article at the Freemuse site.
DailyBrusher 1 year ago
@DailyBrusher The veiled threat came from "Muslim Council of Great Britain" and it said "We consider this blasphemy that you put grooves to the chanting of the Holy Book" About it, Byrne wrote; "Okay, in deference to somebody's religion, we'll take it off... I think we were certainly feeling very cautious about this whole thing." I call that fear.
StanleyT123 1 year ago 7
@StanleyT123 the problems in the UK is caused almost entirely by Pakistani muslims, sadly, they know little & cannot understand the quran in its original language, thus they are easily duped into believing what is said to them.
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@SLAM234
How do you know it was "fear," and not a sincere wish to be respectful, and avoid offense? What is your evidence? Have you spoken to Byrne or Eno? Care to share a published interview that discusses this in detail? Or, are you just jerking off, like Stanley?
DailyBrusher 1 year ago
The whole album is strange and beautiful ,weird to listen to under the influence of psilocybin,as is King Crimson.
Bumbumawangis 1 year ago
and one more thing I'm a muslim and I'm not offended by this song. I think it's beautiful..and I'm sure the musicians did not mean to insult nor disrespect muslims. but unlike other groups, muslims hold great respect for their beliefs, messengers and Quran..they strive on protecting them from mistreatment,misunderstanding and misinterpretation and for that reason they don't accept such songs. it's that simple.. not really a matter of war or superiority as many of you think. please have respect.
MsCasati 1 year ago 4
my life as a ghost of bush
best album ever
inputmodule 1 year ago 3
its funny, I live next to a mosque and I hear readings of the Qu'ran all day and night, whether I want to or not, I don't know how anyone can find it offensive that the words of a supposed god are set to such beautiful music. Islam is supposed to be a religion of tolerance, but Muslims are the first to get upset when somebody does something that may not even be intentionally provoking or insulting. Prove to the world Islam is a religion of tolerance and start practicing what you preach.
intermodal 1 year ago 9
@intermodal totally totally agree.
moeran1944 1 year ago
@intermodal Behead those who insult Islaam. We are a peaceful religion.
TheLittleMuc 1 year ago
@intermodal ah yes because they are all the same!! Somebody educated by reading the Sun I think :D What a cock
digsydave69 1 year ago
@intermodal . well said man beheading should be the last form of tolerance . forgive me but do mosquitos come from mosques. if so are there muslim insects too.
archietidy 1 year ago
This song is so hard to find. Thanks so much for uploading.
aftereight01 1 year ago
AND I RAAAANNN
I RAN SO FAR AWWWAAAY
I JUST RAAAANNN
RAN ALL NIGHT AND DAAAAAAY
couldn't get away.
Furikuran 1 year ago
Brian & David, I love you! Since I had Explorationes in Mind, your Music still encaced me. FOREVER !
aburiz44 1 year ago
This matches the album flow much better than "Very, Very Hungry".
HotelBloedel 1 year ago 2
always loved this great track - got it on the original vinyl elpee .peace
stevejah7 1 year ago 3
Just brilliant.
petrospetridis2 1 year ago
how about this piece of beautiful music? political and religious views apart! i think this is simply beautiful! impartial hearing from my part.
MinaSinaMe 1 year ago
This song was on the original album. Back then it was totally acceptable as a part of the work of art, this album was, but now it is not? Suddenly tracks have to be removed from albums, out of respct and so as not to upset? This is so wrong.
genglemt 1 year ago 3
@genglemt this was actually removed straight away on release. I was lucky to get an original copy but they didn't last long.
djbethell 1 year ago 4
@djbethell We're talking about the original vinyl from 1981? I have it, and I recall no controversy over it what so ever. I don't think I've ever seen the vinyl without this track. The track was played frequently on the radio, and there was no hint of a problem back then. Recent times have become more sensitive to "religious insults".
genglemt 1 year ago
@genglemt "Way back when the record first came out, in 1981, it might have been '82, we got a request from an Islamic organization in London, and they said, 'We consider this blasphemy that you put grooves to the chanting of the Holy Book.' And we thought, 'Okay, in deference to somebody's religion, we'll take it off.'
David Byrne.
Vinyl copies you see with the Qu'ran are all from 1981. Subsequent releases of MLITBOG post-1981 are all without this track. Salman Rushdie was only 7 yrs away!!!
djbethell 1 year ago 6
@djbethell I find it offensive that Muslims appear on television with such strange beards. When will somebody listen to MY point of view and have them remove their strange facial hair?
TheLittleMuc 1 year ago
@TheLittleMuc You can get help for that. It's called Pogonophobia. Or maybe turn off your TV. It's full of rubbish anyway.
djbethell 1 year ago
Maybe I was mistaken.
'My life in the bush of ghosts' was more that this number -
the picture was different too.
But this one was one of many great numbers.
Sorry
Baburote 1 year ago
I brought this vinyl record sooo many years ago - and I have no doubt -
if I had to bring only one record to a desert island -
it would be -
My life in a bush of ghosts -
Baburote
Baburote 1 year ago
The most amazing pre-digital studio album ever produced, both in terms of the music and the ground breaking production. The crowning creative and technical achievement of analogue recording.
Noisegator 1 year ago
@Noisegator Not to be pedantic, but this album might of employed some very early digital technology, just from how some of the effects sound in some of the songs (i.e., the vocal "stuttering" in "Very, Very Hungry"). It could of likely been done either with a Farliight CMI or a Lexicon effects processor, both of which were introduced shortly before the album's production/release. Or either some very intricate razor-blade or deck-to-deck tape editing was involved. Can anyone confirm this?
pvx 1 year ago
@pvx Not pedantic at all, I was speaking from memory.
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According to wikipedia, the only synthesizers present were played by Eno (as expected), though it is not specified there if early digital synths were used.
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Byrne affirms that the recording and mix was entirely analogue technology, i.e. magnetic tape. They used tape loops, "flying in" and a certain reliance on serendipity since things like time correction were not available. I haven't read anything about direct splicing of the multi-track.
Noisegator 1 year ago
@Noisegator Interesting, I was not aware of that, it would make sense that it would be all analog, considering that not every recording studio in 1981 had a CMI or similar gear (due to its initially high cost).
The effects used on the album are kind of in the same vein as Jean-Jacques Perrey's "Gossipo Perpetuo", which was mostly made from tape edits. (I'm wondering if Brian & David might of made some tracks on a separate spliced tape, and then possibly dubbed it to the multi-track?)
pvx 1 year ago
Like Brian Eno and David Byrne ...I too am an abject narcissist...but without fame or money...As David said about this album..."We (him and Brian Eno) made this album about textures not politics."
mitzjob 1 year ago
Glad to have this one on vinyl!
DirkStarrz 1 year ago
fantastic!
still sounds great after all those years!
pontello3 1 year ago
Always loved this amazing track. I love the way they have incorporated the Qur'an into the music. It makes it sound so powerful! I think that people who have a problem with that are maybe a little bit pedantic.
SubliminalAttraction 1 year ago
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pointreven 1 year ago
ah, nothing like a Mirror held up to the ever-imagined 'jihad'....funny, how many fanatics hate this song existing....it actually made me lean towards sufism long ago...and then into it...and out....and on....and under....and etc ;)
durgAUMurge 1 year ago
David Byrne -- Brian Eno...two abject narcissists making a timeless album...Things could be worse.
mitzjob 1 year ago
@mitzjob i gave you q thumbs down...and then needed to retract it...forgive me my spaztic finger. it betrayed me.
CityzenJane 1 year ago
For the record. And as said before. This is not the original recording. When I get my hands on it, I'll post it.
Spraycando 1 year ago
Oh Buddha.......LOL
Life is alledgedly short, so you might as well enjoy it ......- if you can't handle it, become a suicide bummer.....
MrLuciferSam 1 year ago
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making fun of God's holy Quraan book.. how do they dare to!!??
may god curse all the ppl who work on this project
u don't know anything about islam religion or muslims.. wat's in this song is God's words God's sayin in arabic..
i ask forgiveness from God!
Nawnaweenoo 1 year ago
@Nawnaweenoo How is this "making fun"?
froggman1975 1 year ago 2
@Nawnaweenoo You, David, and Eno have had your say. Now move on with your invisible friend.
matthewtaylorbrown 1 year ago 2
@Nawnaweenoo I have respect for all people's religiuos choices. I own a Qu'ran in both arabic and english. I ask you respectfully because I want to understand. Yes,this song takes words from the Muslim religion and adds music to it. I think it is a very beautiful thing..a new way to enjoy and celebrate words from the Qu'ran. Why exactly do Muslims find the use of the words offensive? Peace.
lightbulbsmile 1 year ago 6
Whatever you might want to say about the decision made by Byrne & Eno, I would guess it's safe to guess that they are brighter and deeper thinkers than you are. So, watch, listen and learn from their example. Sad that humility has become so anachronistic.
DailyBrusher 1 year ago
@DailyBrusher No Daily, caving in to the threats of bullies who want to supress your self-expression is usually not the right thing to do.
StanleyT123 1 year ago 15
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@StanleyT123
Stanley, like I said - observe and learn. These two guys are successful, admired and respected, and have managed to sustain their careers over decades. You might learn something if you pay attention, rather than mouthing off. I'm going to keep my eye on Byrne and Eno, and very soon I will forget all about you.
DailyBrusher 1 year ago