Tek Tip: Beat Matching in Ableton Live

[skatewithlove21]

how do you move warp markers as he initially did on a pc?

[1234devo1234]

DJ's are human jukebox's. Playing other people music is what a jukebox does. Nothing against DJ's, I've done it myself but I dont think DJing is more than it is. Granted, you can do more with todays technology.

If your into music, production or playing live is where you need to be to differeniate yourself. Maybe Im just old school?

[DJMackLong]

No. Any shmuck can play proven hits and keep a dance floor packed. This would make you a human jukebox. It's the ability to do it creatively by adding your own personal style and flare that sets quality DJs apart from the rest. You can now go back to your regularly scheduled iTunes playlist sorting.

[steevyboy601]

I just wanna control the separate bpm sections under the warp with my faders. Anybody know how?

[dbrn84]

this is bullshit

[d57338]

lol gay

[DJMackLong]

it's not WHAT the DJ plays, but HOW the DJ plays it that makes a great DJ.

[1234devo1234]

@DJMackLong

Wrong, technical skills only caters to a narrow audience. If you play crap music you are a crap DJ!

[expressense]

I have thousands of house records from 1986-1995 and am an accomplished DJ on the turntables.

Ableton saves me time searching through vinyl as I've ripped a shit load. with the right mixer I would choose Ableton over tables for everything exept an authentic oldskool club night.

[netgod2002]

It's a debatable subject. There's nothing visually interesting about watching a DJ play off a laptop. However, if used right can be just as useful as a pair of decks. Ableton is a tool! Just like decks. Combine them all and you've got yourself a decent show. But if your just starting out, and you've learnt how to beat match on Ableton, then I'd love to see that person put infront of pair of turtables. Its a whole new ball park....

[monkeytrident]

Good share !

[jammcy]

actually renegade43 great djs such as deadmau5 use this software, this cant be beatmatched manually. I personally use it for triggering beatmatched samples. A useful tool if used well, not just a copout!

[dp418]

thats not even right it will get off beat towards the end of the song you must check warping all the way through

[renegade43]

cool! now I can work as a club DJ!!

no matter what anybodys says, if you do this to your music and play as a "dj" you are a talentless hack. sorry to break it you. get serato if you MUST use a laptop to dj. or better yet learn to dj with cdj's

if you use this as a feature to make your OWN, original music production...more power to you. Its a great program for that. not to dj with.

[shayhtfc]

Get with the times mate.

DJing of the future will basically be music production of the mix between 2 songs on the fly. He will effectively create a 3rd 'mix' track. The DJ won't have to worry about trivial, non creative things like beat matching, but on the creative stuff like making great loops and dropping samples at the right time etc

Beat matching is a non creative skill that a machine can do.

[renegade43]

djing of the future...thats fine, I am all for progress. but this is now, and dj's with almost zero skill are abusing features like this in programs to skip over a vital step of learing to dj, beatmatching is just one. whats next..auto mix? auto program? Its already happening and its sucking the soul out of dance music. I am not talking about people who use live to produce with.But warping tracks and calling yourself a producer and making horrid "mash-up's" all day long is not really producing

[shayhtfc]

Beat matching always has the same result... two tracks matching beats. But the creativity of producing a mix is something that varies with each person that creates a mix. a computer doesn't know the best mix, because it requires creativity, but beat matching just requires clever algorithms that follow specific rules. Beat matching is not a creative process, so a computer can replace the human.

[bluecafe69]

Putting together a DJ mix doesn't require creativity. Well, at least as far as electronic music.

DJing is not the same as production (which actually requires imaginativeness). DJing is taking tracks that other people have made, playing them, and then getting credit for those tracks as though you the DJ have made them, yourself.

As far as I'm concerned whether DJing becomes completely automated or not, is irrelevant. Producers should get all the credit for the music, not the Disc-Jockeys

[jammcy]

depends who's djing and how it's being done. Some Dj s are great djs and don't produce a single song in their life but never completely play anyone elses, they take elements and remix different aspects

[m430d]

@bluecafe69 but I thought Djing and production go hand in hand economically in electronic and hip hop music. especially at the indie level. at the top, look at Questlove, RZA, Q-Tip, Mark and Samantha Ronson Deadmau5, all of them recording their music and pushing it themselves at a show or in the club.

only with music played traditionally by band, mixed and mastered by someone else, given to a radio dj or not are there different roles.

[shayhtfc]

P.S. Not trying to take anything away from beat matching though. Its amazing to watch a good DJ match beats well.

[jammcy]

I couldn't agree more with you. Some people just can't beatmatch! fact!

[deepsouljah]

this will not work with live 8. in 8 you move the event to the time not the time to the event. never understood why the early versions tried to conform time to the wave form.

[TheKEVmachine]

It is VERY rare that this quick type of warp is going to do the trick.

This will generally keep the first 16 in time, but the further down the track you go, the further the beat markers will get from the actual beats.

Your best bet, is to make sure every 16th beat marker is lined up, all the way down to the end of the track. This will insure that your mixing is tight throughout.

Once used to the warping process, it usually won't take more than 30 seconds to 1 minute to warp any track.

[pagonzalez1983]

i think i understand... do i have to manually set the beat markers? is there a way to quantize an entire track to a certain tempo so that the beat markers show up automatically? i mean, tap in the tempo of the track, then somehow quantize it based on that tempo? also, will it save that data for future mixing? thx.

[cram1nblaze]

you will have to save it first by clicking the save button located in the sample box.

[masterjey51]

Hi,

Did you find a software able to do what you're asking to?

[BPMDETECTORPRO]

That was quick warping!!! I saw other ways of warping that were more complicated

[junglishithead]

thanks dude..my brother was doing something like that..