God damn communist. I thought you guys were on our side. If we're so bad how comes we got the best everything? Cars, food, films, music, attack helicopters..you name it.
I was being ironic. paraphrasing the mindset of so many brainwashed americans and europeans. You know.. "a joke". Given that you've replied to my point at face value, I'm disapointed that your reply is so weak. Not only is there no contradiction - the two are necessarily dependent. Without these violent power structures...you know how it works....come on your name says it all CAPITALISTHOLOCAUST. Fight the power, death to the great satan..there thats better.
yes i remember the contra affair, the u.s. not only sponsored the contras but we had our own forces in there and they were shooting and killing "soft targets",which is they went into grade schools,hospitals,hotels,ect and shot women,children and men who were civilians while the Nicaraguan military chased them around on the ground,but could not catch the U.S. special forces because we controlled the air and would report ground movement of Nicaragua forces to our U.S. forces.
Cool video, but i think you have some fact checking to do. For example I bileave that there was a military coup which overthrew the Cambodian french leader and was replaced by the military general who enacted the coup on his own. there is no link between this and the CIA. This is what lead Cambodia into war against pol pots Khmer Rouge, who destroyed this new regime. Pol pot later acted on his own to attack the Vietnamese who took over Cambodia, which occurred after US forces left Cambodia.
It's actually my real accent. Except I raised the pitch of my voice a bit. Okay, maybe I cartoonified it a bit, but sadly it's generally my real accent.
Well, I mean, if you have answers to either you might as well divulge them.
After all, I'm just a stupid self-indulging American. It's not often that I give people the benefit of the doubt when they criticize me, my country, etc etc, so if you've got a solution let's hear it!
How is criticizing our (America's & Britian's foreign) policy a criticism of you personally?
With regards to the problems of State sponsored Terrorism, atrocities, wars & other acts of imperialism, there are many solutions which range from self-governing decentralized systems (rather than the highly centralized representative system we have now) to the many forms of anarchy that exist such as Anarcho-Syndicalism to even Anarcho-Capitalism.
Truth be told, I'm not actually paying enough attention and am probably just ragging on you and wasting your time like a total jerk. Ummm okay, let's see...
Right, I mean, there are all these theoretical solutions for what could be done, but no way for individual citizens to go about enacting them. So I'm going to go back to poking my head into the sand.
There are lots of actual things citizens can do to advance the cause of real democracy & freedom.
Some of the most important things are to educate yourself & others & to organize into resistance groups.
Anarcho-Syndicalism even has strategies for peaceful revolution. The most important being the forming of syndicates to create organized networks & safety nets for the eventual fall of the State & the promotion of worker strikes with the eventual aim of taking over the means of production.
Sounds a lot like communism. Workers taking over the means of production becomes kind of a silly thought when you consider more and more the proliferation of mechanized systems. It's more efficient to have organization and management in a comparatively limited number of hands, but you don't want those hands to have their own self-interests.
It'd all be so much simpler with a supercomputer AI overlord, after all.
No. Communism puts the means of production & Capital into the hands of the State (supposedly on behalf of the workers). This is why Communism inevitably led to committing as many atrocities as had Capitalist countries. The State being the greatest facilitator of atrocity imaginable.
Anarcho-Syndicalism is a highly complex, yet flexible system that is highly suitable for the modern technological world. Managers can be appointed on an ad hoc basis & voted for by the workers.
Besides, the current system of economic slavery caused by Capitalist Property (land) Laws cannot be justified.
These laws allow rich elites to hoard vast amounts of land & hog all the resources, forcing the rest of us to work 800% harder (than we'd have to just to consume) to pay rent or buy back a tiny scrap of land that nature gave freely & should be ours anyway.
We are also forced to work for the rich elites just because they inherited land & resources that was initially taken by force.
So you like the idea that you are forced into 40 years economic slavery because somebody owns the land you need to sleep on & demands you pay him rent or that you buy the land from him?
Whether that's okay with you or not, why should I & others be forced to do the same just because the theft of land has been legalized by institutions designed specifically to maintain that system?
I didn't say I explicitly like it. But you have to realize that if no one owns the land, no one has the right to it. Which means that there's no way to determine who can and can't use it. People will spread out naturally to avoid friction, but that's really just the same damned thing as first come first serve. If ownership isn't established formally, it'll just be established informally. How is that really any different?
It's different because we'll get free land as nature intended, rather than having to slave 40 years hard labour to pay rent to some scumbag who thought he could force you to pay rent for existing in space on the planet.
Sure we'll still have to work to buy food & stuff, but nature intended us to work to till the soil or chop wood for shelter.
It won't necessarily be a free for all either. The people can organize it & rich elites will lose their monopoly on land.
So basically, you just want to remove the Market Power that landowners have over the market-you haven't proposed a complete elimination of property rights as it comes to land, but just dislike how ownership thereof creates problems.
My main question is, what are the specifics of how this would be organized.
No, by saying "rich elites will lose their monopoly on land" I didn't mean that the monopoly will simply transfer over to the people within the market context.
It may be a case that property (land) is removed from sale from the market all together, in very much the same way oxygen or people are not subjected to the market in the saleable sense.
It's up to people how they decide to share & organize land usage in a more just way. That would be the truly democratic option.
I think you're missing my point-there will always be people in power. Even in a direct democracy, there will be those who are able to sway the masses for their own gain. However land is shared, someone still has power over it.
We don't have ownership over Oxygen partially because at this point it's plentiful-but if we terraformed mars or something, I bet you it'd be rolled into our utility bills. Though they might not just cut you off if you missed a payment.
Yes there will always be those who are able to sway other people for their own gain, that is the whole point of a highly decentralized localized polity where power is diffused. It reduces the ability of individuals or groups to wield power.
Besides, some like to think of this system as being a non-dictatorial vanguard to pure anarchy, only to be abandoned as & when & if necessary.
Land is plentiful, there is 14 acres of land on earth for each person, about 4-5 acres of which is habitable.
Ah, but what you're forgetting is that there is both land that must be left for Flora and Fauna. Well, maybe-I haven't done the math so I don't know if you're accounting for that yet.
I mean, ultimately, I like eatting cheeseburgers, which requires large tracks of land devoted to cows. What is required for our standard of living is significantly more than what is required for our actual place of survival. Though, that may be a straw man in and of itself... hmmmm...
The problem with making these type of calculations is that statistically it would appear that there is ZERO inhabitable land on earth, given that it is covered with around 25% desert or Ice, 30% forest, 20% mountains & 40% farmland.
But of course, people can & do live in mountains, forests, deserts & in & around farmland.
But, all is needed for a modest detached home which would house a family of 4 is around 0.3 acres & not the 56 acres (14 multiplied by 4) would provide.
Given that this represents a need for only around a half a percent of earth's land to be in habitable for everybody to be able to have a bit of land for a house (at least), it pretty much makes my need to demonstrate that 30% of the earth's land is habitable void.
The situation as it is, in Britain, is that 0.6% own 69% of the land. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a similar disparity of land concentration in the U.S.
I would definitely say our current standard of living is unsustainable.
Well, land has value no matter what we do. I want to live close to work, for instance, so there's a benefit in me being in place A as opposed to place B.
What I will agree with you on is that there's not really any good reason why such a large percentage of our income needs to be devoted to housing.
Someone needs to be able to decide who is and isn't allowed to use any given area-because commercial activity and industry do take up a good deal of space.
It would seem that if rather than owning land, individuals merely rented it from the state-and that that rent was in place of taxes paid, thus allowing the state to provide goods and services-you'd avoid some of the problems you've presented-outside of the issues of governments themselves being corrupt.
Or is that essentially what you've been trying to state-that it can be decided democratically (ala, the people who make up the state decide the government)?
They.... There is nothing you can do except understand what they are doing, and try to act like you are ignoring it. There is really nothing we can do. Sit back, and enjoy the ride.... We could protest, and contact congress until we are blue in the face. Nothing is going to change the way the Government is until it collapses (which will happen) History proves that corruption is self imploding. When it happens...Leave, and don't look back.
It's always annoying when people address me as "They." It's a meta moniker. Read the damned thing: They Call Me Tomu. So Call Me Tomu goddamnit!
And jeeze. I dislike "The world is doomed, pay attention but do nothing!" speeches almost as much as I hate "The world is doomed and it's your fault for being lazy" speeches.
Though futile, I always feel a need to apologize on behalf of my country. I am ashamed, not only of our official actions, but of the willful ignorance and antagonistic attitude projected by my fellow citizens.
All I can say is that we aren't all that bad, although our vocal minority is a fair bit bigger than vocal minorities tend to be.
There is a natural tendency to believe that you are on the side of the good guys. This of course is strengthened by the facts that we have freedom of speech, a 'free' press & a democracy & THEY usually don't.
But of course, it's more complex than that. The press is ran by rich elites who sponsor the politicians & as such, it's impossible to vote for anyone who doesn't put big business & investment interests first.
there you go just close your eyes tight and tell yourself that America is perfect and does no wrong. If you tell yourself its true maybe it will come true. Open your eyes and you will see the terrible things that have been done in the name of this nation.
Good lord, how about some less British accent and some more intonation? This speach is so monotone I have a hard time keeping track of what's being said after about... 10 seconds or so (mind you my native language is not English, but even retards are easier to understand... at least they know how to use intonation) :P
Dont forget the use of weapons of mass destruction in Japan. I wonder how many innocent civilians were killed in that genocide. Pearl harbour was a military target, incinerating two cities is surely a war crime?
Actually in Hiroshima and Nagasaki you have hostile forces integrated, or more appropriately 'hiding", among the civilian population just like in Iraq today. These bombings were planned to, and did, end the war sooner. Now keep in mind, whether Pearl Harbor is "U.S. soil" or not.. whether military target or not, Americans still died(including civilians) in a blindsided suprise attack. As far as the atomic bombs, we warned them many times prior to their deployment.
Because you fucking MORON the only people that could put up a charge are OTHER WORLD POWERS WHOS MAIN GOAL WAS TO BECOME #1 THEMSELVES... DUH. YES all that is left for morons like you is just to be called a loon. You actually claim your video is irrefutable? BY WHO? YOU? You were a miserable person long before you chose to fix your misery on politics, blaming, complaining, "it was all their fault" SAD!!!!. The best you can do is get some you tube morons to agree with you! Am I correct?
Nobody is going to take you seriously if you hurl insults.
It is irrefutable fact that the US was charged with International terrorism, not because I say so, but because they were & the court verdicts show they were.
You may take issue with that verdict, but it's still fact.
The point you do make, in taking issue, however is extremely weak. You infer that the ICJ jury was comprised of people from power seeking states, but give no specific example.
Care to give us a step by step rundown of the judges & their origins & political allegiances to back up your point?
The problem you've got with this argument is that it didn't just stop with the ICJ verdict. When America refused to pay reparations & stop it's brutal attack, the UN security council endorsed draft resolution S/18250 on July 31st 1986 calling for enforcement of the ICJ verdicts.
The resolution couldn't be implemented because the U.S. vetoed it !!!!!
Now, the Western states, usually back up the U.S. in the UN, particularly in the security council. So your argument about power seeking doesn't ring true here.
The vote also went to the General Assembly, since the U.S. blocked it.
UNGA resolution 42/18, asserting U.S. compliance with the ICJ rulings, was endorsed by 94 member states on Nov 12th 1987. Only the U.S. & Israel voted against it.
So, the only countries that seemed to disagree with the ICJ ruling where the U.S. & Israel.
So (although there is no true veto at the General Assembly) the U.S. effectively vetoed the resolution because, since they voted against it, they didn't have to uphold or accept it.
So, even the UN Security Council - which usually votes in favor of the US - upheld the ICJ rulings in favor of Nicaragua.
Besides that, your argument is extremely weak because it's based on the presupposition that other states would really gain anything politically from the U.S. paying Nicaragua reparations.
American atrocities should start with the genocide of the Indians and Slavery.. Not to mention the Bomb and dozend of pre 55 activities. IBM sold machines to the NAZI's during WW2
where I make the claim that not only is America a nation of holocaust deniers (denying their own holocausts), but that it was literally built on the principle of Holocaust denial, due to the extermination of the Native population throughout the Americas (which continues to this day).
When you Europeans deliver a lambasting to the U.S. like this, just always remember that almost half of us are violently against the warmongering bollocks that the conservatives pull every time they get in power. "Americans" didn't do all this stuff, our government did.
While all the things stated in the video are obviously true, they hardly show that the Iranian government isn't supporting terrorism. Not to mention the fact that the current administration can't be blamed for the mistakes of the Regan administration, or most others for that matter.
Let's say we suppose that the 'terrorism' in Iraq is funded by Iran.
It's is only as legitimate or illegitimate as the U.S. & U.K. funding & training of the Mujahdin in the 80's to fight the occupation of the Soviets in Afghanistan.
We only call it terrorism when it is resistance to our occupations or occupations we support.
these terrorist groups get their hold. They focus on the one part of the Qoran that says to spread the religion to all through war. This is not how the entire holy book goes however and those who practice this form of extremism should not be considered a good example of how the entire faith is.
Everyone will get something. However this system has many flaws. For instance, communism only works until a large middle class has developed. Also the system tends to fail because of poor leadership. Many leaders will use the population for their own ends which is why communism usually fails. As for the Islamic faith. The religion is not inherently evil. It is very similar to Christianity and is very peaceful in general. There are groups that take Islam to the extreme and that is where...
While it is true that America has made many mistakes such as funding terrorist groups that is no reason to say that Capitalism is to blame. Capitalist countries are some of the most thriving countries in the world because it is a great ECONOMIC system. Capitalism is not to blame for atrocities that are commited on the behalf of poor leadership. Since many people have brought up communism I thought I would point out that communism, in theory, is a great system.
Capitalism is not great economic system. It has many many problems that cannot be resolved. It is not a system that works for the vast majority of people.
no one cares what we did how many other people we kill... your a propoganda freak...if u fuck with america we will take over your country and destroy you
Okay, you're willing to admit that you are a Fascist & World opinion doesn't count when the nation your parents just happened to have sex in wants to dominate others, but how can you claim that I am a 'propaganda freak'?
I've merely presented the truth - that America was charged with International Terrorism by the World court. Surely, it is the U.S. & U.K. media systems that are propagandist for not mentioning this fact.
America is the greatest sponsor of Terrorism in the World.
America has overthrow 20+ governments since WWII, including many democracies, such as: Iran in '53, Guatemala in '54, Brazil in '64, Indonesia in '65, Greece in '67, Chile in '73.
America is responsible for the deaths of 10 million+ people since WWII: 3 million in US led UN police action in Korea, 3.5 mill in Vietnam, 1 million in bombing of Cambodia & Laos, 1 mill in Indonesia & E.Timor via proxy suharto (CIA sent death lists),...
HEY! What on Earth are you implying by saying "capitalist-holocaust deniers"?! So, what, capitalists are holocaust-deniers? How can you even compare a political/economic view to such a hideous and disgusting denial of the past? It's not funny, and it is uncalled for!
To be fair though, all of the citizens in the NATO countries can take their share of blame too, since we all have governments that either diplomatically support Americas actions or give more direct support.
I live in the United Kingdom, not only are we guilty of more direct support, but we were the main perpetrator of Imperialist atrocities at one time, as Im sure you know.
The people of all NATO countries need to stand up, but it is hard most are blinded by the propaganda of the 'free' press.
Many of us Brits - including many American's themselves - hate the foreign policy of our own governments. The U.S. foreign policy which the British government supports diplomatically & at times with troops).
The American people are great people, but many are unaware that their government (along with ours) has overthrown many countries covertly (with CIA/MI6 coups) & installed brutal murdering dictators to enforce our business interests on them.
There was a time when I felt like that too. I took politics at college & was immersed in it when I was a young adult.
I eventually became jaded with the hypocrisy & propaganda & became totally disillusioned after researching many of the facts on the declassified internal record, facts largely withheld from the mainstream.
I stopped watching the news & lost ALL hope in politics for about 10 years.
Something seems to have awoken in me again, fairly recently.
That seems pretty general. Britain's been in a state of political hibernation since 'New Labour' took power though, it's as if activists are still clinging to some forlorn hope of change. We're having a shitty time, but it's a Labour shitty time, which is better than a Tory shitty time. Isn't it?
not as much as people like u why don't u look around there are thousands of people getting killed all over the world but all people like u can think is whats America doing just because American is a superpower and your country is no longer one u don't have to be jealous of its power
We're the superpower, but 30 million of our people are living below the poverty line. Should we really be pointing the finger at others? Land of the free....LMAO...
haha i think that number in a bit inflated but i would rather be poor hear then in any other country and if u dont like it hear move somewhere else you'd would like better
Don't you believe in freedom of speech? Strange way of showing it if you do.
You seem to believe that it's okay to voice your opinion, but people should go & live somewhere else if they disagree with you OR the consensus of opinion.
Stalin had a similar approach if anybody criticized his rule.
haha Stalin ya right i don't see America killing millions of its own citizen plus i was just making a point don't take all serous and start comparing me to Stalin What r u smoking over there in the U.K.
Firstly, I did not compare you to Stalin generally. I did, however, compare your stance that others that disagree with the consensus of opinion should leave the country with Stalin's policy of sending political dissidents to Siberia & his attitude towards difference of opinion in general.
This is a fair point, I think & doesn't mean that I am comparing you to Stalin in every way.
You have to face the reality, that you either believe in freedom of speech or you don't...
...this means that you accept the right to views of even those people you disagree with.
Remember; Hitler & Goebbels believed in freedom of speech for those that agreed with them (& by saying this, I am not implying that you invaded or would have invaded most of Europe).
Secondly, whilst it is true that America has not slaughtered it's domestic population en masse since the original invasion of your lands (where 5-10 million native Americans where slaughtered)...
...13,778,000 according to Rummel, 30 million according to Aletheia, 90 million according to Stannard (granted the last 2 figures estimate death tolls throughout the Americas) it has however slaughtered millions throughout much of the third world (as recently as 4 & 5 decades ago):
2-3 million in Korea,
3.5 million in Vietnam,
1 million in Cambodia & Laos,
1 million in Indonesia via Proxy Suharto (thanks to death lists sent by the CIA & MI6, as admitted by Robert Martens in declassified docs).
Or more recently, 1.3 million killed in US led Iraqi sanctions (according to UNICEF).
Then there are the countless governments America has overthrown since WWII (30+), including many democracies, such as; Iran in '53, Guatemala in '54, Brazil in '64, Indonesia in '65, Greece in '67 & Chile in '73.
But putting America's World record for slaughter over the last 5 decades, I come to my third point....
...why the American government doesn't brutalize it's own population to compel them into slavery:
Why? Because it doesn't have to. People are enslaved through property rights. Land ownership allows rich elites to hoard up vast
tracts of land, meaning that the general population is forced to work at least 60-80% harder to pay rent OR to buy back a tiny scrap of land, that nature provides FREE OF CHARGE, supposedly.
Because Rich Elites have been in control of the doctrinal systems for hundreds of years in America & other Capitalist countries, people aren't aware of this.
They seem to think 30-50 years of hard labour (after 12 years of school) is a 'free' choice & don't even think about how 60-80% of their wages is paying for something that should be as free as Oxygen, namely Land.
Of course everyone should work to pay for food & essentials, but should they really slave for things provided free by nature?
I just said it I'm not out there forcing people to leave. second of all I would care what u think but the problem with people like u is that when ever anyone does not agree with they portrayed as raciest evil or like u said just said Stalin that why people like u aren't taken seriously if my government was actually out there killing millions of it own citizens and people were afraid to speak there mind like with Stalin i would be right there on you side but there not
I didn't call you racist or as evil as Stalin at all.
I merely attempted to highlight the simiarities between the position of telling people to leave if they don't like things to Stalin's expulsions.
I think it's worth noting that in Britian & the U.S. where we love freedom of speech so much, we tend to tell people who exercise their freedom of speech to either shut up or leave the country if we disagree with them, rather than actually getting into the debate.
With regards to your statements about people not taking people like me seriously about US & British Foreign Policy & atrocities abroad (basically because our government's aren't killing millions of us);
I don't see how that is a reflection on my stance of caring about other nations at all, but rather a reflection of how many Westerners (but not all) only care about themselves.
Which is not always their own fault I admit, the mainstream media likes to paint the picture that we do no wrong.
CandelarioGalvan: To be accurate, have a look at the sponsors of the NSDAP. You'll find very interesting names like Boeing, Union Banking Corp. (Prescott Bush), Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse, etc. Without their support, the NSDAP wouldn't have had the smallest chance to win the elections. Most of those companies are still in business today :)
Fuck you, it doesn't matter how much power America has if they were truly guilty wouldn't the other nations have been able to overrule anything the U.S. says. So therefor more people must have believed America not guilty and the only people that thought they were were pieces of shit like you
they are a piece of shit.. the reason the world tolerates the bullshit out of america is the consumerism that is driven by greedy, debt ridden idiots that live there.. when the economy goes into depression it will serve you greedy bastards right. you feel you can run around the world under the cloak of freedom and democracy screwing up the place.. that is coming to an end thank god..
Navetel, you can go die. Apparently you don't mind all shit that goes on in the world. You think we should stop what we do and let the world go down in chaos. We are what holds this world together and its because of assholes like you that countries like Russia can do what they want and all anyone can do is tell them to stop or we'll kick you out of our club.
you can't be serious.. how many countries has russian invaded in comparison to the good ol USA or britain.. you have your head in you butt.. america is and always has been an aggressor and a destroyer of economies and now theirs is going to fail.. that will look good on them.
Seriously.. You're playing, you're high, you're drunk, or doped up. Because you can't be serious with all this bullshit you're saying. Did you know that the world existed without America...um let's just say for the past million years. Until these greedy idiots started teaching their children how to kill, steal, and lie to get everything they want. Why is it that the 10% wealthy are controlling what the 90% of the population do? LMAO
Navtel... Well said, that is exactly how I feel and I live in this country. These people don't read, they never research anything, they only devour what their media feed them. Lies, and nothing more. They are ignorant, ask one of them to find Iran on an atlas....LMAO....
The same people who tells others to die for speaking truth are the same idiots who are happy with their current economy. Fools
For someone talking about how dumb people are your not that smart. For one the worlds been around for a little longer than a million years, two the worlds a bitch teaching your kids how to survive and prosper is the best gift you will ever give them. Three show me a country where the top 10% don't control the rest show me a poor politician. There on the top they control everthing so thats how it is.
Your clearly off your head. So because they supported the contas and were found in violation of un laws that makes America a terrorist nation? You fucking glipe
There is no defense against these facts. To understand the history of US terror is to never be able to vote for a Republican or Democrat ever again without holding your nose. To me, voting Democrat is like voting Nazi because they're just a tad better than the "Flesh Eating Zombie Party".
They didn't know any better, just like most Americans. The people that DO know better yet remain silent, including some progressives, are even worse IMO. It's one thing to watch a burning house not knowing someone is inside, but to be aware that it was occupied and still do nothing is evil, for lack of a better word.
Problem is that the media in USA & most of the world keep all debate to superficialities. So when a true alternative to a Democrat or Republican (all the same, look at their Congressional voting records, just differ a bit on special interests) comes forth, the media silences them or covers them and then quickly drops the story. Anyone speaking USA by the Constitution, which treats other nations with respect, is considered a radical. USA is becoming very Orwell 1984-ish, England is there.
I agree. I think the American people don't care because they don't know, and this cycle continues with each new generation. I love GW Bush because he has made our failings much more obvious that any leader in recent memory, so much so that people are actually beginning to take notice.
"Hitler never had more than 37 percent of the popular vote in the honest elections that occurred before he became Chancellor. And the opposition among the 63 percent against him was generally quite strong."
"The 8th German Reichstag election of the Weimar Republic was held on March 5, 1933" and in that election the Nazis received 43.9% of the vote
What is leftist about pointing out facts backed up by well sourced facts, including many declassified State Dept. & CIA documents?
You aren't questioning the facts are you?
Did you check out the actual court verdicts from the ICJ website?
With regards to other US atrocities:
Go search; "Guatemala 1954 Documents" in google for the US Coup there. "Search Iran Coup NYT" the NYT special has links to the declassified docs there.
Go search "Shaking hands with Saddam" for some excellent declassified docs which not only show America's support for Saddam during his worst atrocities, but also that they instructed the U.S. UN delegate (with FULL knowledge that Saddam had even gassed the Kurds) to get a vote of 'no decision' on a resolution condemning Saddam's use of Chemical Weapons in '84.
What is leftist about pointing out that the U.S. holocaust of the Vietnamese people killed 3.5 million people for instance?
A true holocaust, since the literal translation of holocaust is; "consumed by fire" & many 1000's of Vietnamese civilians were burned to death by Napalm.
Or that America carried out a secret bombing campaign of Cambodia & Laos & dropped more bombs on each country than the allies dropped in the whole of WWII (2.7 million tonnes on Cambodia to be precise declassified docs show). A million people were killed in Cambodia & Laos during this time.
You are missing the truth by pointing to World Courts. All "World Opinions" are a total joke. UN routinely places nations of dictators etc. on the Human Rights panel. All foreign aid and intervention by the USA needs to stop. It is immoral to steal USA citizens money via taxes to use to prop up evil regimes when so much needs done in the USA itself. Not to mention how immoral it is to the citizens of those nations. Time for governments to stop "aiding" and let us do it on our own for each other.
No, the UN (when not hindered & blocked by U.S./Nato diplomacy, abstentions & vetoes) represents World democracy. This is why Americans & other Nationalists dislike it. They are not interested in World public opinion or what other countries think. They hate democracy. Same with the ICJ.
Look at when the U.S. invaded Panama on the bullsh*t pretext of Noriega being a Narcotrafficker. The UN (ie the rest of the World ) was against it, BUT America vetoed the resolution & got away with it.
Conservatives run their mouths all day about looking at the big picture, but their terminology contradicts their own opinions (Glenn Beck doesn't even know what socialism is) and they don't even know the big picture. They're to involved in restoring right to private property and war to be concerned about world peace.
Aww, this is so cute. Jenna and her Twin inbred sister Grin while the Po Folks go and Die for a Lie to keep the gas flowing on the Ranch. She and her sister should have been REQUIRED to go to Iraq and attend to the wounded American Warriors in Iraq. They could have washed the Veterans Feet or given them Blow Jobs, or SOMETHING, for their Sacrifice.. These Bitches Get WEDDINGS and Patriotic Americans that Volunteer Get a free Funeral. WTF is wrong with US! American Intel? OxyFuckinMoron!!
"Washington attempted to subvert Indonesia's fragile democratic government. These efforts—the largest U.S. covert operation since World War II—were unsuccessful, so the United States shifted its strategy to building up the Indonesian military as a counter-weight to the mass-based Indonesian Communist Party. In 1965, this approach bore fruit when a military coup....deposed Sukarno and installed General Suharto in his place. - Prof. Chomsky, 'East Timor Questions & Answers', October, 1999.
The US State Department itself reported that 90 percent of the weapons used in the East Timor invasion came from the United States.
"The United States has been directly involved in Indonesia's crimes in East Timor." - Representative Cynthia McKinney (Member of Congress from the State of Georgia), Oct. 1999.
Okay, next we'll turn to the 1973 CIA overthrow of democratically elected Allende in Chile & installation of brutal murder/torturer Pinochet.
No need to give you sources of his death tolls of app. 3,000-10,000 & brutal torture of 10,000s of innocent people, it's common knowledge & you'll find sources yourself.
What's harder to find - thanks to Corporate Propaganda - is sources of CIA involvement. Interesting how nearly all the papers in the UK seemed to mention it, but to varying degrees.
For instance, whilst The Daily Telegraph mentioned "the CIA-backed military coup in 1973" in their obituary, the The Daily Mail noted merely that the junta "had secret CIA backing" in thier piece titled; 'Death of a friendly dictator,' in December 11, 2006.
The Times wrote: "... the coup was launched on September 1, 1973, with the support of the US". In their obituary, same day.
The Guardian could only muster: "The coup, in which CIA destabilisation played a part..."
"It became known later that the CIA had spent millions to destabilise the Allende government."
The Independent:
"A US military attaché was later to confess that he carried down from Washington a large sum in dollar banknotes to buy the assassination of General René Schneider... [who] was resisting calls from the Chilean right and the US for an immediate coup against Allende." in a piece titled; 'General Augusto Pinochet,' December 11, 2006.
Of course there are plenty of clues in the declassified documents that have been released, although much of it has been censored.
Check out some copies from the George Washington University website. Type:
"U.S.-Chile Documents" in google & you'll find them.
Some interesting bits. Make sure you check out U.S. Naval attache Patrick Ryan's situation report on the coup in 1973 where he describes the overthrow of democracy in Chile as:
"Chile's coup de etat [sic] was close to perfect."
Here's one Contemporary source for the support of Suharto's mass murder of 600,000 "Communists";
search for; "the independent suharto" in google. Independent is probably the most respectable Newspaper in Britain. Some good quotes in this piece:
"The military and intelligence attachés in the US and British embassies were sending helpful death lists to the Indonesian high command when Suharto struck."
"General Suharto (both men, like many Indonesians, are known by only one name) overthrew him in a blood-soaked coup in 1965, covertly aided and enthusiastically abetted by the US, Britain and Australia."
"A decade later, again with a green light from Washington, London and Canberra, as many as 230,000 more people, or a third of the civilian population of East Timor, died when Suharto invaded the former Portuguese colony."
The East Timor slaughter was ignored in the US at the time, not in UK.
Adrian Vickers, the Professor of Southeast Asian Studies at the University of Sydney puts Suharto's death toll of his own people at around 500,000-1,000,000 as do most historians.
The Daily Telegraph attributed Suharto with; "the massacre of at least 500,000" in an article titled; 'Suharto death revives memories of the million killed under his rule,' Jan 28, 2008.
I'm scared cos they're my neighbors shudder
MrROTD 2 years ago
God damn communist. I thought you guys were on our side. If we're so bad how comes we got the best everything? Cars, food, films, music, attack helicopters..you name it.
bsjunior 2 years ago
Sorry, I don't see any contradiction with the ability to accrue vast resources & wealth & having questionable power structures & policies.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago 3
I was being ironic. paraphrasing the mindset of so many brainwashed americans and europeans. You know.. "a joke". Given that you've replied to my point at face value, I'm disapointed that your reply is so weak. Not only is there no contradiction - the two are necessarily dependent. Without these violent power structures...you know how it works....come on your name says it all CAPITALISTHOLOCAUST. Fight the power, death to the great satan..there thats better.
bsjunior 2 years ago
Heh well, you know what they say about it being hard to discern caricatures of mindless hyperorthodoxy from the real thing.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
LOL. :-)
bsjunior 2 years ago
i could take this video so much more serious if you wasnt talking like a brummy Ghost.
MrBenoo08 2 years ago
Brummy? Heh, think 200 miles further north & your bang on.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
yes i remember the contra affair, the u.s. not only sponsored the contras but we had our own forces in there and they were shooting and killing "soft targets",which is they went into grade schools,hospitals,hotels,ect and shot women,children and men who were civilians while the Nicaraguan military chased them around on the ground,but could not catch the U.S. special forces because we controlled the air and would report ground movement of Nicaragua forces to our U.S. forces.
YogiToad 2 years ago
Cool video, but i think you have some fact checking to do. For example I bileave that there was a military coup which overthrew the Cambodian french leader and was replaced by the military general who enacted the coup on his own. there is no link between this and the CIA. This is what lead Cambodia into war against pol pots Khmer Rouge, who destroyed this new regime. Pol pot later acted on his own to attack the Vietnamese who took over Cambodia, which occurred after US forces left Cambodia.
Judacoth 2 years ago
I fully agree with the message, but it's pretty FUCKING HARD TO LISTEN TO THAT FAKE ACCENT.
Sorry! It's just that annoying!
coladict 2 years ago
It's actually my real accent. Except I raised the pitch of my voice a bit. Okay, maybe I cartoonified it a bit, but sadly it's generally my real accent.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
So, as an American Citizen, what can I do to solve the problem?
Theycallmetomu 2 years ago
The problem of not being able to understand my accent or the problem of America being the greatest global terrorist?
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
Well, I mean, if you have answers to either you might as well divulge them.
After all, I'm just a stupid self-indulging American. It's not often that I give people the benefit of the doubt when they criticize me, my country, etc etc, so if you've got a solution let's hear it!
Theycallmetomu 2 years ago
Where did I criticize you personally?
How is criticizing our (America's & Britian's foreign) policy a criticism of you personally?
With regards to the problems of State sponsored Terrorism, atrocities, wars & other acts of imperialism, there are many solutions which range from self-governing decentralized systems (rather than the highly centralized representative system we have now) to the many forms of anarchy that exist such as Anarcho-Syndicalism to even Anarcho-Capitalism.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
Truth be told, I'm not actually paying enough attention and am probably just ragging on you and wasting your time like a total jerk. Ummm okay, let's see...
Right, I mean, there are all these theoretical solutions for what could be done, but no way for individual citizens to go about enacting them. So I'm going to go back to poking my head into the sand.
Theycallmetomu 2 years ago
There are lots of actual things citizens can do to advance the cause of real democracy & freedom.
Some of the most important things are to educate yourself & others & to organize into resistance groups.
Anarcho-Syndicalism even has strategies for peaceful revolution. The most important being the forming of syndicates to create organized networks & safety nets for the eventual fall of the State & the promotion of worker strikes with the eventual aim of taking over the means of production.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
Sounds a lot like communism. Workers taking over the means of production becomes kind of a silly thought when you consider more and more the proliferation of mechanized systems. It's more efficient to have organization and management in a comparatively limited number of hands, but you don't want those hands to have their own self-interests.
It'd all be so much simpler with a supercomputer AI overlord, after all.
Theycallmetomu 2 years ago
No. Communism puts the means of production & Capital into the hands of the State (supposedly on behalf of the workers). This is why Communism inevitably led to committing as many atrocities as had Capitalist countries. The State being the greatest facilitator of atrocity imaginable.
Anarcho-Syndicalism is a highly complex, yet flexible system that is highly suitable for the modern technological world. Managers can be appointed on an ad hoc basis & voted for by the workers.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
Besides, the current system of economic slavery caused by Capitalist Property (land) Laws cannot be justified.
These laws allow rich elites to hoard vast amounts of land & hog all the resources, forcing the rest of us to work 800% harder (than we'd have to just to consume) to pay rent or buy back a tiny scrap of land that nature gave freely & should be ours anyway.
We are also forced to work for the rich elites just because they inherited land & resources that was initially taken by force.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
I'm not entirely certain I'm opposed to the concept of owning land, per say. There are some issues based on property taxation and the like though.
Theycallmetomu 2 years ago
So you like the idea that you are forced into 40 years economic slavery because somebody owns the land you need to sleep on & demands you pay him rent or that you buy the land from him?
Whether that's okay with you or not, why should I & others be forced to do the same just because the theft of land has been legalized by institutions designed specifically to maintain that system?
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
I didn't say I explicitly like it. But you have to realize that if no one owns the land, no one has the right to it. Which means that there's no way to determine who can and can't use it. People will spread out naturally to avoid friction, but that's really just the same damned thing as first come first serve. If ownership isn't established formally, it'll just be established informally. How is that really any different?
Theycallmetomu 2 years ago
It's different because we'll get free land as nature intended, rather than having to slave 40 years hard labour to pay rent to some scumbag who thought he could force you to pay rent for existing in space on the planet.
Sure we'll still have to work to buy food & stuff, but nature intended us to work to till the soil or chop wood for shelter.
It won't necessarily be a free for all either. The people can organize it & rich elites will lose their monopoly on land.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
So basically, you just want to remove the Market Power that landowners have over the market-you haven't proposed a complete elimination of property rights as it comes to land, but just dislike how ownership thereof creates problems.
My main question is, what are the specifics of how this would be organized.
Theycallmetomu 2 years ago
No, by saying "rich elites will lose their monopoly on land" I didn't mean that the monopoly will simply transfer over to the people within the market context.
It may be a case that property (land) is removed from sale from the market all together, in very much the same way oxygen or people are not subjected to the market in the saleable sense.
It's up to people how they decide to share & organize land usage in a more just way. That would be the truly democratic option.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
I think you're missing my point-there will always be people in power. Even in a direct democracy, there will be those who are able to sway the masses for their own gain. However land is shared, someone still has power over it.
We don't have ownership over Oxygen partially because at this point it's plentiful-but if we terraformed mars or something, I bet you it'd be rolled into our utility bills. Though they might not just cut you off if you missed a payment.
Theycallmetomu 2 years ago
Yes there will always be those who are able to sway other people for their own gain, that is the whole point of a highly decentralized localized polity where power is diffused. It reduces the ability of individuals or groups to wield power.
Besides, some like to think of this system as being a non-dictatorial vanguard to pure anarchy, only to be abandoned as & when & if necessary.
Land is plentiful, there is 14 acres of land on earth for each person, about 4-5 acres of which is habitable.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
Ah, but what you're forgetting is that there is both land that must be left for Flora and Fauna. Well, maybe-I haven't done the math so I don't know if you're accounting for that yet.
I mean, ultimately, I like eatting cheeseburgers, which requires large tracks of land devoted to cows. What is required for our standard of living is significantly more than what is required for our actual place of survival. Though, that may be a straw man in and of itself... hmmmm...
Theycallmetomu 2 years ago
The problem with making these type of calculations is that statistically it would appear that there is ZERO inhabitable land on earth, given that it is covered with around 25% desert or Ice, 30% forest, 20% mountains & 40% farmland.
But of course, people can & do live in mountains, forests, deserts & in & around farmland.
But, all is needed for a modest detached home which would house a family of 4 is around 0.3 acres & not the 56 acres (14 multiplied by 4) would provide.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
Given that this represents a need for only around a half a percent of earth's land to be in habitable for everybody to be able to have a bit of land for a house (at least), it pretty much makes my need to demonstrate that 30% of the earth's land is habitable void.
The situation as it is, in Britain, is that 0.6% own 69% of the land. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a similar disparity of land concentration in the U.S.
I would definitely say our current standard of living is unsustainable.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
Well, land has value no matter what we do. I want to live close to work, for instance, so there's a benefit in me being in place A as opposed to place B.
What I will agree with you on is that there's not really any good reason why such a large percentage of our income needs to be devoted to housing.
Someone needs to be able to decide who is and isn't allowed to use any given area-because commercial activity and industry do take up a good deal of space.
Theycallmetomu 2 years ago
It would seem that if rather than owning land, individuals merely rented it from the state-and that that rent was in place of taxes paid, thus allowing the state to provide goods and services-you'd avoid some of the problems you've presented-outside of the issues of governments themselves being corrupt.
Or is that essentially what you've been trying to state-that it can be decided democratically (ala, the people who make up the state decide the government)?
Theycallmetomu 2 years ago
I'll just say I'm still somewhat skeptical and leave it at that.
Theycallmetomu 2 years ago
They.... There is nothing you can do except understand what they are doing, and try to act like you are ignoring it. There is really nothing we can do. Sit back, and enjoy the ride.... We could protest, and contact congress until we are blue in the face. Nothing is going to change the way the Government is until it collapses (which will happen) History proves that corruption is self imploding. When it happens...Leave, and don't look back.
Dt0x75 2 years ago
It's always annoying when people address me as "They." It's a meta moniker. Read the damned thing: They Call Me Tomu. So Call Me Tomu goddamnit!
And jeeze. I dislike "The world is doomed, pay attention but do nothing!" speeches almost as much as I hate "The world is doomed and it's your fault for being lazy" speeches.
Theycallmetomu 2 years ago
great video
BurnumBurnum123 2 years ago
Sounds like some military and paramilitary activities may be in order to deal with this ICJ group. They are clearly a terrorist organization.
fakiir 2 years ago
LOL!!!!!
sorry but i cant take this video seriously.....
What the fuck is with the 8 arm man with a mobile phone...
AHAHAHAHAHHA
every1changes 2 years ago
dont take the video or the cartoon seriously,just chekc out the facts...
HeerSletti 2 years ago
Though futile, I always feel a need to apologize on behalf of my country. I am ashamed, not only of our official actions, but of the willful ignorance and antagonistic attitude projected by my fellow citizens.
All I can say is that we aren't all that bad, although our vocal minority is a fair bit bigger than vocal minorities tend to be.
Verrimgard 2 years ago
Sadly, we are the same in Britain Verrimgard.
There is a natural tendency to believe that you are on the side of the good guys. This of course is strengthened by the facts that we have freedom of speech, a 'free' press & a democracy & THEY usually don't.
But of course, it's more complex than that. The press is ran by rich elites who sponsor the politicians & as such, it's impossible to vote for anyone who doesn't put big business & investment interests first.
CapitalistHolocaust 2 years ago
FUCK THIS GUY...1 star! Fucking leprechaun sounding bastard!
gworksnell 2 years ago
there you go just close your eyes tight and tell yourself that America is perfect and does no wrong. If you tell yourself its true maybe it will come true. Open your eyes and you will see the terrible things that have been done in the name of this nation.
ismdism 2 years ago
Good lord, how about some less British accent and some more intonation? This speach is so monotone I have a hard time keeping track of what's being said after about... 10 seconds or so (mind you my native language is not English, but even retards are easier to understand... at least they know how to use intonation) :P
feezbeest 2 years ago
Fuck USA. Sink those broke motherfuckers.
sharkloaner 2 years ago 4
broke? :S
Stuttisco 2 years ago
@sharkloaner hey dipshit if the us collapses it affects the whole world, whatever nazi country you are in
lanasa8 1 year ago
Good video.
YouDoobed 3 years ago
Dont forget the use of weapons of mass destruction in Japan. I wonder how many innocent civilians were killed in that genocide. Pearl harbour was a military target, incinerating two cities is surely a war crime?
badmofker 3 years ago
Yes & Pearl Harbour wasn't even an attack on U.S. soil.
Hawaii is a U.S. colony.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Actually in Hiroshima and Nagasaki you have hostile forces integrated, or more appropriately 'hiding", among the civilian population just like in Iraq today. These bombings were planned to, and did, end the war sooner. Now keep in mind, whether Pearl Harbor is "U.S. soil" or not.. whether military target or not, Americans still died(including civilians) in a blindsided suprise attack. As far as the atomic bombs, we warned them many times prior to their deployment.
gmanflyairforce3 3 years ago
Wow, how did you gather all the loons on youtube onto one video. You should be awarded something for that achievement by google.
witevah 3 years ago
This video claims that America is the only country to be charged with International Terrorism by the World Courts & this is your chance to refute it.
But, instead of refuting it, you hurl insults instead.
Why would that be?
Is it because I backed up the claim with absolutely irrefutable evidence, ie links to the actual courts verdicts in the video info section?
Hmm, yes, that would explain why you couldn't refute the video content & were forced to lower yourself to childish insults.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Because you fucking MORON the only people that could put up a charge are OTHER WORLD POWERS WHOS MAIN GOAL WAS TO BECOME #1 THEMSELVES... DUH. YES all that is left for morons like you is just to be called a loon. You actually claim your video is irrefutable? BY WHO? YOU? You were a miserable person long before you chose to fix your misery on politics, blaming, complaining, "it was all their fault" SAD!!!!. The best you can do is get some you tube morons to agree with you! Am I correct?
witevah 3 years ago
Now that's just a rant.
Nobody is going to take you seriously if you hurl insults.
It is irrefutable fact that the US was charged with International terrorism, not because I say so, but because they were & the court verdicts show they were.
You may take issue with that verdict, but it's still fact.
The point you do make, in taking issue, however is extremely weak. You infer that the ICJ jury was comprised of people from power seeking states, but give no specific example.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Care to give us a step by step rundown of the judges & their origins & political allegiances to back up your point?
The problem you've got with this argument is that it didn't just stop with the ICJ verdict. When America refused to pay reparations & stop it's brutal attack, the UN security council endorsed draft resolution S/18250 on July 31st 1986 calling for enforcement of the ICJ verdicts.
The resolution couldn't be implemented because the U.S. vetoed it !!!!!
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Now, the Western states, usually back up the U.S. in the UN, particularly in the security council. So your argument about power seeking doesn't ring true here.
The vote also went to the General Assembly, since the U.S. blocked it.
UNGA resolution 42/18, asserting U.S. compliance with the ICJ rulings, was endorsed by 94 member states on Nov 12th 1987. Only the U.S. & Israel voted against it.
So, the only countries that seemed to disagree with the ICJ ruling where the U.S. & Israel.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
So (although there is no true veto at the General Assembly) the U.S. effectively vetoed the resolution because, since they voted against it, they didn't have to uphold or accept it.
So, even the UN Security Council - which usually votes in favor of the US - upheld the ICJ rulings in favor of Nicaragua.
Besides that, your argument is extremely weak because it's based on the presupposition that other states would really gain anything politically from the U.S. paying Nicaragua reparations.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
American atrocities should start with the genocide of the Indians and Slavery.. Not to mention the Bomb and dozend of pre 55 activities. IBM sold machines to the NAZI's during WW2
guslingus 3 years ago
Check out my video:
The United States of Holocaust deniers
where I make the claim that not only is America a nation of holocaust deniers (denying their own holocausts), but that it was literally built on the principle of Holocaust denial, due to the extermination of the Native population throughout the Americas (which continues to this day).
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
death to united terrorist states of america
Russiacoming 3 years ago
When you Europeans deliver a lambasting to the U.S. like this, just always remember that almost half of us are violently against the warmongering bollocks that the conservatives pull every time they get in power. "Americans" didn't do all this stuff, our government did.
NuclearRadio 3 years ago
not just the government, but the bush crime family.
iamafractal 3 years ago
While all the things stated in the video are obviously true, they hardly show that the Iranian government isn't supporting terrorism. Not to mention the fact that the current administration can't be blamed for the mistakes of the Regan administration, or most others for that matter.
sovsouth 3 years ago
Let's say we suppose that the 'terrorism' in Iraq is funded by Iran.
It's is only as legitimate or illegitimate as the U.S. & U.K. funding & training of the Mujahdin in the 80's to fight the occupation of the Soviets in Afghanistan.
We only call it terrorism when it is resistance to our occupations or occupations we support.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Nobody asked what Iran or Iraq was doing. Look at yourself in the mirror before you point your finger...
xxXCALIBURxx 3 years ago
hahahaha this guy has a funny/cool voice...= D
joesilver72 3 years ago
i have footy stickers!
Vermoran12 3 years ago
these terrorist groups get their hold. They focus on the one part of the Qoran that says to spread the religion to all through war. This is not how the entire holy book goes however and those who practice this form of extremism should not be considered a good example of how the entire faith is.
cadyyan 3 years ago
quran doesn't say in any part to spread religion by war. It says
"There is no compulsion in religion."(2:256)
gabbuf 3 years ago
Everyone will get something. However this system has many flaws. For instance, communism only works until a large middle class has developed. Also the system tends to fail because of poor leadership. Many leaders will use the population for their own ends which is why communism usually fails. As for the Islamic faith. The religion is not inherently evil. It is very similar to Christianity and is very peaceful in general. There are groups that take Islam to the extreme and that is where...
cadyyan 3 years ago
While it is true that America has made many mistakes such as funding terrorist groups that is no reason to say that Capitalism is to blame. Capitalist countries are some of the most thriving countries in the world because it is a great ECONOMIC system. Capitalism is not to blame for atrocities that are commited on the behalf of poor leadership. Since many people have brought up communism I thought I would point out that communism, in theory, is a great system.
cadyyan 3 years ago
Capitalism is not great economic system. It has many many problems that cannot be resolved. It is not a system that works for the vast majority of people.
Pommit 2 years ago
no one cares what we did how many other people we kill... your a propoganda freak...if u fuck with america we will take over your country and destroy you
james1494 3 years ago
Okay, you're willing to admit that you are a Fascist & World opinion doesn't count when the nation your parents just happened to have sex in wants to dominate others, but how can you claim that I am a 'propaganda freak'?
I've merely presented the truth - that America was charged with International Terrorism by the World court. Surely, it is the U.S. & U.K. media systems that are propagandist for not mentioning this fact.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
USA represents all that is good in the world so weep today tomorrow and to the end of time. Keep on weeping you nasty sons of bitches.
aradinstud 3 years ago
America is the greatest sponsor of Terrorism in the World.
America has overthrow 20+ governments since WWII, including many democracies, such as: Iran in '53, Guatemala in '54, Brazil in '64, Indonesia in '65, Greece in '67, Chile in '73.
America is responsible for the deaths of 10 million+ people since WWII: 3 million in US led UN police action in Korea, 3.5 mill in Vietnam, 1 million in bombing of Cambodia & Laos, 1 mill in Indonesia & E.Timor via proxy suharto (CIA sent death lists),...
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
500,000+ in Latin America, 1.3 million killed in US led Iraq sanctions (UN figures), 1 million in current invasion of Iraq, etc.
What's great about that?
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
HEY! What on Earth are you implying by saying "capitalist-holocaust deniers"?! So, what, capitalists are holocaust-deniers? How can you even compare a political/economic view to such a hideous and disgusting denial of the past? It's not funny, and it is uncalled for!
EnochJoash 3 years ago
I am saying that Capitalists are often fond of pointing to Communist atrocities & holocausts & denying their own atrocities & holocausts, such as:
3 million slaughtered in US led UN police action in Korea (2 mill civilians),
3.5 million slaughtered in Vietnam,
1 million in Cambodia & Laos (during secret U.S. bombing),
1 million in Indonesia & East Timor (via proxy Suharto, helped with CIA death lists),
500,000+ in Latin America,
1.3 million in US led Iraq sanctions,
etc.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Maybe rest of the world should spent a little more time looking at what they are doing to each other instead of bitching about the U.S.
spudwrenchfalling 3 years ago
USA trying to blame us haha doesn't work like that mate they are our terrorists and take the blame soully for us.
I gots to go now Because me Moms got English muffins and Tea TATA
dave777blaster 3 years ago
Heh, fair enough.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
how long can Americans use the card it's not us its our govt.
torture,1.2 million murdered citizens
illegal attack of Iraq !
you are to blame because you do nothing to stop your govt.
you eat lard burgers from Mc D
and waddle around thinking your #1
The land of the free home of the brave
but in reality your a Banana Republic with a Tin Horn Dictator.
dave777blaster 3 years ago
To be fair though, all of the citizens in the NATO countries can take their share of blame too, since we all have governments that either diplomatically support Americas actions or give more direct support.
I live in the United Kingdom, not only are we guilty of more direct support, but we were the main perpetrator of Imperialist atrocities at one time, as Im sure you know.
The people of all NATO countries need to stand up, but it is hard most are blinded by the propaganda of the 'free' press.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
america: spreading communism all over the world while flying under the banner of fighting communism. now that's a paradox!
AmericaFell 3 years ago
Look up John Todd. He was part of the Illuminati and then left and spread the word to all of those who dont know what the government is really up to.
jess012064 3 years ago
I Hate America.
matty1072 3 years ago
what's America? The government, the people, the culture?
Do dislike it because of it's foreign policy? Ever checked the one of your own country?
Staubdumm 3 years ago
Yes, his comment is unfair.
Many of us Brits - including many American's themselves - hate the foreign policy of our own governments. The U.S. foreign policy which the British government supports diplomatically & at times with troops).
The American people are great people, but many are unaware that their government (along with ours) has overthrown many countries covertly (with CIA/MI6 coups) & installed brutal murdering dictators to enforce our business interests on them.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
I was alive when good ol' Ollie North helped Regan cover up that scene.
I am just so bored and jaded hearing about issues like this that I don't care anymore. I just want the World as a whole to burn so we can start over.
Let's revolt and clense!
thomascrown559 3 years ago
There was a time when I felt like that too. I took politics at college & was immersed in it when I was a young adult.
I eventually became jaded with the hypocrisy & propaganda & became totally disillusioned after researching many of the facts on the declassified internal record, facts largely withheld from the mainstream.
I stopped watching the news & lost ALL hope in politics for about 10 years.
Something seems to have awoken in me again, fairly recently.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
That seems pretty general. Britain's been in a state of political hibernation since 'New Labour' took power though, it's as if activists are still clinging to some forlorn hope of change. We're having a shitty time, but it's a Labour shitty time, which is better than a Tory shitty time. Isn't it?
bolloxinator 3 years ago
America AGAINST terrorism?? What a curious notion, an oxymororn of sorts..
mozaks80 3 years ago
ALL COMMENTS POSTED TO OBAMA VIDEOS MUST BE APPROVED FIRST
THIS IS A VIOLATION OF OUR CONSTITUTION!
BECAUSE YOU ARE RUNNING TO BE PRESIDENT
Obama Blocks Comments on his videos
from people that take him to terms.
WE HAVE THE RIGHT UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO COMMENT ABOUT YOU MR OBAMA
YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO BLOCK OUR COMMENTS IN A PUBLIC FORM.
I WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU ARE STILL A MEMBER OF THAT CHURCH OF HATE
Br0kenB0rder 3 years ago
i want to know why your Caps Lock key is broken
he has the right to approve or dissaprove comments on his videos, just like everyone else on youtube
to deny him that would be the real abuse of the 1st ammendment
take your head out of your ass for once, and stop being a conservative fucktard
thepoison1627 3 years ago
So What
cyanes 3 years ago
you are so stupid. what a waste of air!!!
TheGoodEnemy 3 years ago
not as much as people like u why don't u look around there are thousands of people getting killed all over the world but all people like u can think is whats America doing just because American is a superpower and your country is no longer one u don't have to be jealous of its power
cyanes 3 years ago
you are such an imbecile... and are obviously under 14 yrs of age. Go to bed and brush ya teeth darlin.
TheGoodEnemy 3 years ago
We're the superpower, but 30 million of our people are living below the poverty line. Should we really be pointing the finger at others? Land of the free....LMAO...
Great vid! Keep it up
miyeaj 3 years ago
haha i think that number in a bit inflated but i would rather be poor hear then in any other country and if u dont like it hear move somewhere else you'd would like better
cyanes 3 years ago
Why should he/she?
Don't you believe in freedom of speech? Strange way of showing it if you do.
You seem to believe that it's okay to voice your opinion, but people should go & live somewhere else if they disagree with you OR the consensus of opinion.
Stalin had a similar approach if anybody criticized his rule.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
haha Stalin ya right i don't see America killing millions of its own citizen plus i was just making a point don't take all serous and start comparing me to Stalin What r u smoking over there in the U.K.
cyanes 3 years ago
Firstly, I did not compare you to Stalin generally. I did, however, compare your stance that others that disagree with the consensus of opinion should leave the country with Stalin's policy of sending political dissidents to Siberia & his attitude towards difference of opinion in general.
This is a fair point, I think & doesn't mean that I am comparing you to Stalin in every way.
You have to face the reality, that you either believe in freedom of speech or you don't...
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
...this means that you accept the right to views of even those people you disagree with.
Remember; Hitler & Goebbels believed in freedom of speech for those that agreed with them (& by saying this, I am not implying that you invaded or would have invaded most of Europe).
Secondly, whilst it is true that America has not slaughtered it's domestic population en masse since the original invasion of your lands (where 5-10 million native Americans where slaughtered)...
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
...13,778,000 according to Rummel, 30 million according to Aletheia, 90 million according to Stannard (granted the last 2 figures estimate death tolls throughout the Americas) it has however slaughtered millions throughout much of the third world (as recently as 4 & 5 decades ago):
2-3 million in Korea,
3.5 million in Vietnam,
1 million in Cambodia & Laos,
1 million in Indonesia via Proxy Suharto (thanks to death lists sent by the CIA & MI6, as admitted by Robert Martens in declassified docs).
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
4-500,000 slaughtered throughout Latin America.
Or more recently, 1.3 million killed in US led Iraqi sanctions (according to UNICEF).
Then there are the countless governments America has overthrown since WWII (30+), including many democracies, such as; Iran in '53, Guatemala in '54, Brazil in '64, Indonesia in '65, Greece in '67 & Chile in '73.
But putting America's World record for slaughter over the last 5 decades, I come to my third point....
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
...why the American government doesn't brutalize it's own population to compel them into slavery:
Why? Because it doesn't have to. People are enslaved through property rights. Land ownership allows rich elites to hoard up vast
tracts of land, meaning that the general population is forced to work at least 60-80% harder to pay rent OR to buy back a tiny scrap of land, that nature provides FREE OF CHARGE, supposedly.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Because Rich Elites have been in control of the doctrinal systems for hundreds of years in America & other Capitalist countries, people aren't aware of this.
They seem to think 30-50 years of hard labour (after 12 years of school) is a 'free' choice & don't even think about how 60-80% of their wages is paying for something that should be as free as Oxygen, namely Land.
Of course everyone should work to pay for food & essentials, but should they really slave for things provided free by nature?
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
I just said it I'm not out there forcing people to leave. second of all I would care what u think but the problem with people like u is that when ever anyone does not agree with they portrayed as raciest evil or like u said just said Stalin that why people like u aren't taken seriously if my government was actually out there killing millions of it own citizens and people were afraid to speak there mind like with Stalin i would be right there on you side but there not
cyanes 3 years ago
I didn't call you racist or as evil as Stalin at all.
I merely attempted to highlight the simiarities between the position of telling people to leave if they don't like things to Stalin's expulsions.
I think it's worth noting that in Britian & the U.S. where we love freedom of speech so much, we tend to tell people who exercise their freedom of speech to either shut up or leave the country if we disagree with them, rather than actually getting into the debate.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
With regards to your statements about people not taking people like me seriously about US & British Foreign Policy & atrocities abroad (basically because our government's aren't killing millions of us);
I don't see how that is a reflection on my stance of caring about other nations at all, but rather a reflection of how many Westerners (but not all) only care about themselves.
Which is not always their own fault I admit, the mainstream media likes to paint the picture that we do no wrong.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Sieg Heil Sieg Heil .......
Don't Look at how the Europeans of the world court have been arming Jew murderers
Don't look at the 11,000 deadly acts commited by muslims
Don't look at the slaughter of Chinese look at the USA.
Hitler is very happy as he is getting ass raped
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
CandelarioGalvan: To be accurate, have a look at the sponsors of the NSDAP. You'll find very interesting names like Boeing, Union Banking Corp. (Prescott Bush), Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse, etc. Without their support, the NSDAP wouldn't have had the smallest chance to win the elections. Most of those companies are still in business today :)
WolYou 3 years ago
WolYou
And don't forget when Hitler ran for office the communist part ordered its agents to vote for Hitler.
Fact is Hitler came to power cause the people belived and to an extent still do belive in his ideas.
Common Good over indivdual good. A Hitler
CandelarioGaIvan 3 years ago
Fuck you, it doesn't matter how much power America has if they were truly guilty wouldn't the other nations have been able to overrule anything the U.S. says. So therefor more people must have believed America not guilty and the only people that thought they were were pieces of shit like you
meowinthedog 3 years ago
they are a piece of shit.. the reason the world tolerates the bullshit out of america is the consumerism that is driven by greedy, debt ridden idiots that live there.. when the economy goes into depression it will serve you greedy bastards right. you feel you can run around the world under the cloak of freedom and democracy screwing up the place.. that is coming to an end thank god..
navtel 3 years ago
Navetel, you can go die. Apparently you don't mind all shit that goes on in the world. You think we should stop what we do and let the world go down in chaos. We are what holds this world together and its because of assholes like you that countries like Russia can do what they want and all anyone can do is tell them to stop or we'll kick you out of our club.
meowinthedog 3 years ago
you can't be serious.. how many countries has russian invaded in comparison to the good ol USA or britain.. you have your head in you butt.. america is and always has been an aggressor and a destroyer of economies and now theirs is going to fail.. that will look good on them.
navtel 3 years ago
Seriously.. You're playing, you're high, you're drunk, or doped up. Because you can't be serious with all this bullshit you're saying. Did you know that the world existed without America...um let's just say for the past million years. Until these greedy idiots started teaching their children how to kill, steal, and lie to get everything they want. Why is it that the 10% wealthy are controlling what the 90% of the population do? LMAO
miyeaj 3 years ago
Navtel... Well said, that is exactly how I feel and I live in this country. These people don't read, they never research anything, they only devour what their media feed them. Lies, and nothing more. They are ignorant, ask one of them to find Iran on an atlas....LMAO....
The same people who tells others to die for speaking truth are the same idiots who are happy with their current economy. Fools
miyeaj 3 years ago
For someone talking about how dumb people are your not that smart. For one the worlds been around for a little longer than a million years, two the worlds a bitch teaching your kids how to survive and prosper is the best gift you will ever give them. Three show me a country where the top 10% don't control the rest show me a poor politician. There on the top they control everthing so thats how it is.
meowinthedog 3 years ago
Your clearly off your head. So because they supported the contas and were found in violation of un laws that makes America a terrorist nation? You fucking glipe
LIVERLADD 3 years ago
Got brains? International Court of Justice? the Hague? Ring any bells? Check the links he provided dumbass..
TemporaryTroll 3 years ago
Eat shit, die soon.
nwannal 3 years ago
good video man,
davood1357 3 years ago
what the FUCK!. smoke more pot.
iDestro 3 years ago
That voice cracks me up, lol
WizzoSchizo 3 years ago
There is no defense against these facts. To understand the history of US terror is to never be able to vote for a Republican or Democrat ever again without holding your nose. To me, voting Democrat is like voting Nazi because they're just a tad better than the "Flesh Eating Zombie Party".
SkepticalProgressive 3 years ago 6
It's like the majority of Germans who didn't have the balls or the brains to not vote for the Nazis.
aewester 3 years ago
They didn't know any better, just like most Americans. The people that DO know better yet remain silent, including some progressives, are even worse IMO. It's one thing to watch a burning house not knowing someone is inside, but to be aware that it was occupied and still do nothing is evil, for lack of a better word.
SkepticalProgressive 3 years ago
Problem is that the media in USA & most of the world keep all debate to superficialities. So when a true alternative to a Democrat or Republican (all the same, look at their Congressional voting records, just differ a bit on special interests) comes forth, the media silences them or covers them and then quickly drops the story. Anyone speaking USA by the Constitution, which treats other nations with respect, is considered a radical. USA is becoming very Orwell 1984-ish, England is there.
tmourt 3 years ago
I agree. I think the American people don't care because they don't know, and this cycle continues with each new generation. I love GW Bush because he has made our failings much more obvious that any leader in recent memory, so much so that people are actually beginning to take notice.
SkepticalProgressive 3 years ago 2
from the internet
"Hitler never had more than 37 percent of the popular vote in the honest elections that occurred before he became Chancellor. And the opposition among the 63 percent against him was generally quite strong."
"The 8th German Reichstag election of the Weimar Republic was held on March 5, 1933" and in that election the Nazis received 43.9% of the vote
maxine2win 3 years ago
a salad fingers voice imitator presents: LEFTIST POLITICS!
jack00008 3 years ago
What is leftist about pointing out facts backed up by well sourced facts, including many declassified State Dept. & CIA documents?
You aren't questioning the facts are you?
Did you check out the actual court verdicts from the ICJ website?
With regards to other US atrocities:
Go search; "Guatemala 1954 Documents" in google for the US Coup there. "Search Iran Coup NYT" the NYT special has links to the declassified docs there.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Go search "Shaking hands with Saddam" for some excellent declassified docs which not only show America's support for Saddam during his worst atrocities, but also that they instructed the U.S. UN delegate (with FULL knowledge that Saddam had even gassed the Kurds) to get a vote of 'no decision' on a resolution condemning Saddam's use of Chemical Weapons in '84.
What is leftist about pointing out that the U.S. holocaust of the Vietnamese people killed 3.5 million people for instance?
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
A true holocaust, since the literal translation of holocaust is; "consumed by fire" & many 1000's of Vietnamese civilians were burned to death by Napalm.
Or that America carried out a secret bombing campaign of Cambodia & Laos & dropped more bombs on each country than the allies dropped in the whole of WWII (2.7 million tonnes on Cambodia to be precise declassified docs show). A million people were killed in Cambodia & Laos during this time.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
You are missing the truth by pointing to World Courts. All "World Opinions" are a total joke. UN routinely places nations of dictators etc. on the Human Rights panel. All foreign aid and intervention by the USA needs to stop. It is immoral to steal USA citizens money via taxes to use to prop up evil regimes when so much needs done in the USA itself. Not to mention how immoral it is to the citizens of those nations. Time for governments to stop "aiding" and let us do it on our own for each other.
tmourt 3 years ago
No, the UN (when not hindered & blocked by U.S./Nato diplomacy, abstentions & vetoes) represents World democracy. This is why Americans & other Nationalists dislike it. They are not interested in World public opinion or what other countries think. They hate democracy. Same with the ICJ.
Look at when the U.S. invaded Panama on the bullsh*t pretext of Noriega being a Narcotrafficker. The UN (ie the rest of the World ) was against it, BUT America vetoed the resolution & got away with it.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
facts are leftist because right wingers don't believe in facts.
jack00008 3 years ago
true, right wingers are to stupid to understand what facts are...
heartfollower 3 years ago
Right wingers do understand facts, they just use their own instead of believing the actual truth.
xxXCALIBURxx 3 years ago
Conservatives run their mouths all day about looking at the big picture, but their terminology contradicts their own opinions (Glenn Beck doesn't even know what socialism is) and they don't even know the big picture. They're to involved in restoring right to private property and war to be concerned about world peace.
xxXCALIBURxx 3 years ago
why does that guy have eight arms?!
xD
hutersucks 3 years ago
Its kinda' funny, I mean, it should be obvious...
How do you think we got so powerful? Our sunny disposition?
Zato1chi 3 years ago
watch?v=QDMtY06lzXM
Laugh along now
WizzoSchizo 3 years ago
ur voice makes me want to strangle myself....GAAAAAAAAH
KillerRacoon 3 years ago 3
Yeh, thank god it's not my real voice.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Aww, this is so cute. Jenna and her Twin inbred sister Grin while the Po Folks go and Die for a Lie to keep the gas flowing on the Ranch. She and her sister should have been REQUIRED to go to Iraq and attend to the wounded American Warriors in Iraq. They could have washed the Veterans Feet or given them Blow Jobs, or SOMETHING, for their Sacrifice.. These Bitches Get WEDDINGS and Patriotic Americans that Volunteer Get a free Funeral. WTF is wrong with US! American Intel? OxyFuckinMoron!!
miltona635 3 years ago
"Washington attempted to subvert Indonesia's fragile democratic government. These efforts—the largest U.S. covert operation since World War II—were unsuccessful, so the United States shifted its strategy to building up the Indonesian military as a counter-weight to the mass-based Indonesian Communist Party. In 1965, this approach bore fruit when a military coup....deposed Sukarno and installed General Suharto in his place. - Prof. Chomsky, 'East Timor Questions & Answers', October, 1999.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
The US State Department itself reported that 90 percent of the weapons used in the East Timor invasion came from the United States.
"The United States has been directly involved in Indonesia's crimes in East Timor." - Representative Cynthia McKinney (Member of Congress from the State of Georgia), Oct. 1999.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Okay, next we'll turn to the 1973 CIA overthrow of democratically elected Allende in Chile & installation of brutal murder/torturer Pinochet.
No need to give you sources of his death tolls of app. 3,000-10,000 & brutal torture of 10,000s of innocent people, it's common knowledge & you'll find sources yourself.
What's harder to find - thanks to Corporate Propaganda - is sources of CIA involvement. Interesting how nearly all the papers in the UK seemed to mention it, but to varying degrees.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
For instance, whilst The Daily Telegraph mentioned "the CIA-backed military coup in 1973" in their obituary, the The Daily Mail noted merely that the junta "had secret CIA backing" in thier piece titled; 'Death of a friendly dictator,' in December 11, 2006.
The Times wrote: "... the coup was launched on September 1, 1973, with the support of the US". In their obituary, same day.
The Guardian could only muster: "The coup, in which CIA destabilisation played a part..."
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Astonishingly, a BBC obituary said;
"It became known later that the CIA had spent millions to destabilise the Allende government."
The Independent:
"A US military attaché was later to confess that he carried down from Washington a large sum in dollar banknotes to buy the assassination of General René Schneider... [who] was resisting calls from the Chilean right and the US for an immediate coup against Allende." in a piece titled; 'General Augusto Pinochet,' December 11, 2006.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Of course there are plenty of clues in the declassified documents that have been released, although much of it has been censored.
Check out some copies from the George Washington University website. Type:
"U.S.-Chile Documents" in google & you'll find them.
Some interesting bits. Make sure you check out U.S. Naval attache Patrick Ryan's situation report on the coup in 1973 where he describes the overthrow of democracy in Chile as:
"Chile's coup de etat [sic] was close to perfect."
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Here's one Contemporary source for the support of Suharto's mass murder of 600,000 "Communists";
search for; "the independent suharto" in google. Independent is probably the most respectable Newspaper in Britain. Some good quotes in this piece:
"The military and intelligence attachés in the US and British embassies were sending helpful death lists to the Indonesian high command when Suharto struck."
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
"General Suharto (both men, like many Indonesians, are known by only one name) overthrew him in a blood-soaked coup in 1965, covertly aided and enthusiastically abetted by the US, Britain and Australia."
"A decade later, again with a green light from Washington, London and Canberra, as many as 230,000 more people, or a third of the civilian population of East Timor, died when Suharto invaded the former Portuguese colony."
The East Timor slaughter was ignored in the US at the time, not in UK.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Adrian Vickers, the Professor of Southeast Asian Studies at the University of Sydney puts Suharto's death toll of his own people at around 500,000-1,000,000 as do most historians.
The Daily Telegraph attributed Suharto with; "the massacre of at least 500,000" in an article titled; 'Suharto death revives memories of the million killed under his rule,' Jan 28, 2008.
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago
Sources please... Thanks.
GilLuhv 3 years ago
Good video!You have to have a love of the truth to believe the truth!
slimjim006 3 years ago
Thanks. Did you go check out the World Court's Verdicts against America's Terrorist Attacks against Nicaragua?
CapitalistHolocaust 3 years ago