This may be physiologically accurate with respect to the Bible, but the Bible should receive no respect from logical people. Christians (and many others) have made sure that "infidels" have suffered more horrifically than Jesus in the name of the True God. Skinning, sawing, burning. Religion poisons everything.
@lapo3399 Youre absolutely right. Religion is poison. But did you ever stop and think that maybe those people skinning, sawing and burning in the name of Christ were heretics and not truly Christians. Tru Christianity is following the lifestyle of Christ and as far as im concerned Christ did not skin, burn or saw anybody. So instead of attacking Christians as a whole and judging other people of other religions, maybe you need to understand the true doctrine of "Regeneration" or "Born Again".
Brothers and sisters, Jesus was only a messenger. God placed someone else in Jesus place and saved him from being crucified. Jesus did mention the similarity of his miracle is as Jonas. People will think that he died/they died when (but) God saved him (them). Every person will be judged based on their actions. Can a sinner be equal to a righteous?
Jesus was only a messenger who submitted his wills to God. Worship God alone as anything beside that is a great sin if you only knew/know.
@demhana11 Firstly my friend, If Allah made it look like that Christ was on the cross when it was actually someone else, wouldn't that make Allah a deceiver ?? If thats the case, not only did he deceive the romans and the Jews, but he also deceived Mary and also his disciples who spread the news that Christ had risen from the dead, they even died for what they knew was 100% true
@demhana11 In fact why didn't he just save Christ without deceiving anyone at all ?? I'm sorry my friend, but I absolutely refuse to believe that a 100% Holy, 100% Righteous and 100% Just God, who is 100% perfect in every way, uses deceptive tactics to carry out his plans.
@MrHoppz93 God is saving his Messnger from those who are evil. there is nothing wrong with deceving those who refuse the truth tosave his messnger!? :P
@demhana11 So you are agreeing to the verse in the Qur'an that says "But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers " Surah.3.54 ? Not only that, if this verse is true, that means Allah duped the followers of Christ into thinking that Jesus died by crucifixion and further deceived them into thinking that he was raised back to life on the third day. They then went out preaching this message boldly,with some of them dying as martyrs because of it.
@MrHoppz93 God knows best. he knew they will never be at ease until they believed that they've kiiled Jesus. those who went against Jesus were all disbelievers and will eventually be punished. so why are you so bothered about them being deceived?
@demhana11 If God was deceiving the enemies of Jesus, then I can understand, but I see a few problems with this.
1. Firstly, not only did God deceive the enemies of Jesus, but that means he also deceived Mary and including the disciples of Jesus into thinking he was put on the cross when he actually wasn't.
@demhana11 2. Secondly, the disciples of Jesus preached the message that Christ had risen after 3 days, they even became martyrs for preaching this message. So if the crucifixion was nothing but an act of deceitfulness at the hands of Allah, that means that the disciples of Jesus died for nothing.
@MrHoppz93 No Bro, We Belive that Jesus was raised up,and will be sent down again... the desciples never mentioned anything about the crucifixion. before you read the Bible, how about reading the History of the Bible? how did the bible became into being? :)
@demhana11 I believe that Christ was raised up and will come back as well brother, I enoruage you to read the Book of Isaiah, the prophet Isaiah predicted the coming of Christ 700 years before christ came to earth, and also predicted that Christ would lay down his life for the sins of mankind, study it carefully and you will see :)
@MrHoppz93 you sure he said that? did he speak English? you sure its not like how they changed from: "God, the flesh and the Spirit all agreed" to: "God, the flesh and the spirit all are ONE" ?
@demhana11 The original manuscripts of the Holy Bible are written in Hebrew and Greek, the Old testament is written in Hebrew whilst the New Testament is written in Greek, and as for that quote you cited, can you please give me the verse chapter and number ? :)
@MrHoppz93 Alot of translations there... Quote? about Mary being told about Jesus? that was not a quote :P i was asking you.. in islam its Diff. because it wouldnt make a Diffrence if she knew or Not. "O Mary, Allah hath chosen thee and purified the-chosed thee above all the women of the nations." they were all chosen by Allah, and they trust and believed in Allah. she Knew God has his plans just as how he had/has for her.
@demhana11 anyways bro its getting kinda late but I've really enjoyed having this dialogue with you and I'll reply back to your responses tomorrow need be :) god bless ya :p
@demhana11 We Christians believe that God inspired the writers of the scriptures with the Holy Spirit to write down the revelations, to put it simply, we believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God as you probably already know :). It is true that the Bible was written by the hands of men, but we believe that the scriptures are inspired by God, there is only one thing in the Bible that wasn't written by the hands of men, the 10 Commandments :)
2.You shall not make yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth, you shall not bow down to them nor serve them.
3.You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
@MrHoppz93 Bro, Christianity breaks the commandment from the start. its only in christianity that you worship others Beside God, only in christianly you see drawings of God and Jesus. the 10 commandment is something you wouldnt want to bring up if your trying to defend christianity O'pal! :D
@demhana11 Your obviously assuming that I'm guilty of committing shirk haha. Well I could give you plenty of quotes from Scripture which prove that he is more than just a mere prophet my friend, here is an example (John 8:58) "I tell you the truth, before Abraham was, I am". "I AM" is the eternal name of God, in fact the Jews during Jesus's time were very conscious in the sacredness of the Divine name and for reason it became common to say "Lord" instead.
@MrHoppz93 No bro, i am not assuming anything, God only knows whats in your heart. i am only trying to answer your questions. You are quoting things written by people who wants you and everyone else to believe. there is a video here called "who wote the bible?" it has 12 parts. in the end they can only say to believe in whatis right because by the end of the series they knew that the bible has no proofs. if you have time do watch it.
@demhana11 Will do brother, My apologies for assuming that you assumed that haha :p, there is some videos of this talk show called "Jesus or Muhammad" I encourage you to watch some their vids :) in your own time of course haha :p
@demhana11 Even more interesting is that when Christ said this, the Jews picked up stones to stone him because they knew that he was claiming to be equal with God. In fact Jesus even accepted worship, in Matthew 8:2 a leper came and worshipped Jesus, in Hebrews 1:6 Angels are instructed by God to worship Jesus, I could quote alot more if you want, if Jesus was just a man he would have rebuked people for worshipping him.
@demhana11 3. Thirdly, there are 2 Billion christians who believe that the crucifixion is 100% true, yet if it was made to look like that Jesus was crucified when he wasn't put on the cross at all, this also means that these 2 billion christians have also been deceived because of the deception of Allah.
@MrHoppz93 Indeed, Allah did mention that alot will be misguided. to those who refuse to believe will take the whole act as deception. but those who believe will understand that God only wanted to safe his beloved mssnger. why do you not want to accpet something simple yet you can accept something so complicated such as the concept of trinity?
@demhana11 Is deception not something that man does? the Bible says in Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind"
@demhana11 4. Fourthly, the Crucifixion is the very foundation of the Christian faith, without the crucifixion, you have no Christianity. So if Surah 4:157 is true in saying that it was made to look like that Christ was on the cross when he actually wasn't, this means that because of Allah's deception, Allah is responsible for starting Christianity. Did Allah not know that this act of deception would start a new but false religion ?
@MrHoppz93 Hehe bingo, your kinda getting it :). Jesus was not teaching christianity, people made chritianity only after Jesus death. God know that the msg wasnt spread. and Jesus know that he cant complete his mission because people were so arrogant and refused to believe. he spoke to the same people who followed him. Allah did not create christianity, you pelpe did. the trinity and crucifixionwas never mentioned in the bible. people put it there. again, Read the history of the Bible.:)
@demhana11 In fact Christ did predict his death and ressurection numerous times to his disciples, here is one example (Matthew 20:17-19) "And Jesus, going up to Jerusalem, took the twelve disciples aside along the way and said unto them, "Behold we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of Man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn Him to death, and shall deliver Him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify Him.
@demhana11 And the third day He shall rise again". The bible does in fact mention the doctrine of the trinity, although the word "trinity" is not found in scripture, does mean that the doctrine is not there. Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit". If you want I will quote more examples :).
@MrHoppz93 the problem here is that, you are quoting from things that has been written down. you are quoting them in English... :S besides, you've qouted: the father, AND the son, AND the holy spirit. they Sure are three. Three individuals.
@demhana11 5. Muhammad came 600 years after Christ, if Jesus was no more than a messenger and that he was not crucified, why on earth did it take Allah 600 years to send someone saying that the crucifixion was nothing but a fraud ?
@MrHoppz93 there were approx 125,000 mssngers before Jesus and Muhammad. its been more than 1400years after Muhammad's Death and people still disbelieve in the Quran though it holds more proofs than anything. the people were not ready for any truth since they were more focused in worshiping their own Gods and making their own rules. Jesus said that. "you cannot bare the truth". if Mohammad came down any sooner they would have treated him just as they've treated Jesus.
@demhana11 Finally, the angel Gabriel declared that Mary was conceived with the Holy Spirit and that she would bring forth a son and his name would be Jesus and that he would save people from their sins (Matthew 1:21-23). Yet supposedly 600 years later, the angel Gabriel reveals to Muhammad that Christ wasn't crucified ? Why on earth would Gabriel contradict what he revealed to Mary 600 years earlier ?
@MrHoppz93 no hard feelings at all bro. i am answering after all :). Jesus was sent to guid mankind, we believe that he was one of the most powerful messngers. Gabriel did not mention anything about Washing Sins since its only God that can forgive. i am not contradicting anything, the bible is contradicting itslf. we all know that Jesus did not succeed in passing the msg. that is why another mssnger had to come.
@MrHoppz93 God knows best. he knew they will never be at ease until they believed that they've kiiled Jesus. those who went against Jesus were all disbelievers and will eventually be punished. so why are you so bothered about them being deceived?
@MrHoppz93 My friend, Define "Good". so no... i dont believe that a person can go to heaven just by doing "Good" work. who are we to decide what is good and bad? :P
@demhana11 I absolutely agree with you my friend, in our standard we may think we are pretty good people, but in God's standard, we're all in the same boat, we are all sinners, The Bible says in Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God", which also means that nothing we do can merit us salvation, salvation comes from the Lord, I'm sure you agree :)
@MrHoppz93 oh noo not like that buddy :P we all sin but we cannot be all in the same boat since in the End, it will be between you and God alone. everyone will be judged according to what theyve done. a child cannot be punished as how an adult murderer would be. We believe every person is Born Pure, it is later on he/she starts sinning due to temptations of this worldly life. to be good is to follow the Commands of God and his messngers. God will decide, not Jesus :) Jesus was a messnger
@demhana11 I agree with you, we are held accountable for OUR sins :) We christians don't believe that the SINS of adam and eve were passed down to us, we inherited the DESIRE TO SIN from adam and eve because of their disobediance, we inherited the desire to go against God and to commit sin. By the way when i said "we are all in the same boat" I mean that we are all sinners by that statement, nothing more nothing less :)
Praise God! I LOVE you LORD! Thank you for dying not for me ONLY, but for the whole of humanity! We need to accept you as our sacrifice! I wish we could see the blood and accept O God!
There is really no point in arguing with a logical, rational person about the existence of Christ because God permeates all barriers of science and logic. It's simply beyond the barrier of logic and rationalization. So for a person who bases his beliefs purely on science and logic simply can't comprehend God. The only way you can recognize Him is when He opens your eyes and saves you. You can't 'decide' to believe in Him. He opens your heart and THEN you can accept.
I cant believe how cruel people can be.You have to be very senseless to do this to someone.Cruel punishment does not solves anyting, not to mention that not everyone who has been crucifixed in ancient times was actually a criminal.Remember that roman empire was expanded with so much violence and supression of many other nations, that sometimes people were forced to steal in order to feed themselves, since romans often took from them.
I have no word about his sufferings because despite of having crucified Christ is still suffering from more and more agony in this world of ongonig falsehood,cruelty,crime and spiritual emptiness.So the tragic waste is going on.
@fremy123 I cired as well.Poor Jesus!To suffer all this to save us, the unworthy humans!And how we are repaying him?By being selfish, ungrateful and doing bad things to one another.I am not saying I dont believe in mankind at all, but we more often are following dark paths.
@ornitorrinco01 In a sense, yes, that is true. The God we know exists as two sentient entities, God the Father (the Most High), and God the Son (the Firstborn of all Creation). Together, they comprise Elohim, or the God-Family. Yahweh is the Most High and Yeshu'a is the Firstborn. The Holy Spirit is their shared power, inseparable from them, from which all phenomena of the universe are derived.
@ornitorrinco01 However, as the two are separate sentient entities, God the Father sacrificed God the Son. But if you look at it another way and consider the two as a single collective entity (Elohim), then yes, "God" sacrificed Himself unto Himself lol.
@TheWitnesserer Thanks very much for the reply and the clarification, I must admit that it all sounds very science fiction, very Lord of the Rings to me. But hey I realise that people believe this stuff and take it seriously so whatever floats your boat I guess.
@ornitorrinco01 You're very welcome. In addition, God is what It is. I call It God, you may call It a naturally occurring phenomenon. Whether It is sentient is up to debate. Currently, that phenomenon some call "God" is unobservable by science and is therefore in the realm of hypothesis. A perfect example is Dark Matter. We currently call it Dark Matter because it is unobservable, however, we can observe its effects. If the rules are followed, then the effects of "God" can be observed as well.
@ornitorrinco01 The only one who had anything right in the Bible was the one who wrote down the words of God as being "I am what I am." The reason for this is we cannot possibly fathom an infinite /thing/ that may be outside of the bounds of the laws of physics as we know it. What it is simply /is/; we cannot define it. Could there be a higher being? Definitely. Could there be nothing beyond? Of course. The truth is that we, as a race, may never /know/ the truth. The key word there is /know/.
What people don't realize is that the significance of Christ's sacrifice wasn't his torture or even His death. When He says, "My God, my God, why have You forsaken me?" God literally turned His face away from the Firstborn, the perfect One, who was completely in tune with God and His will. And yet, this sinless being was viewed as being the most sinful, bearing ALL sins. And as sin separates man from God, so was Christ separated from God. For the perfect son, this is the most agonizing feeling.
there is some debate in that. I believe that when Jesus says this, He was quoting a psalm. Back in His time, people did not have verses. The Jewish people memorized text. If I were to say, "For God so loved the world" you would think John 3:16 right? When Jesus says "My God, my God, why have You forsaken me?"
He is referring to Psalm 22. Think about that. Psalm 22 was written by David about a 1000 years before. Crucifixion wasn't invented until around the the 6 Century BC.
@AdamTheRickMan I'm not going to argue against you; your points are perfectly valid and I agree with your viewpoint. I base my own judgment on Biblical concepts. The Bible teaches that sin separates man from God and that the wages of sin is death (which can be viewed as either physical death or spiritual "death" or separation from God). Since Christ had all the sin (past, present, and future) literally dumped on Him, one can say that He was, in fact, forsaken because God cannot hear His cries.
@TheWitnesserer I am so grateful to you for pointing out the Fact that God turned his face away from his only Son !!! That is why he died!! Not the Crucifixion! He died completely forsaken by his heavenly Father ! He became Sin and carried every disease known to man and his sins! It says the People present turned their faces and ran away in Horror!!!
@BluesHarp60 And that's the heart of the sacrifice. It transcends the body, occurring more on a cosmic scale. It's something we may never understand unless we could stand face-to-face with God and ask.
the bible said his sweat where as droplets of blood, it didnt say he was sweating blood. it just meant his sweat was heavy, so much so like an athelete with sweat litterally dripping off his body. so too was the sweating of jesus yet he was only praying, due to the fact he knows what was to take place, which leads to him saying if the cup could pass from him. if you know you were gonna die that way he did what do you think wouldve happened to you?
lol, no such thing as Jesus. Cant believe all you idiots believe in god. Its all scientifically impossible. Even Noahs ark is proven to be fake. Out of all the water in our atmosphere, ice, earth, and oceans, we still need 3x that to get to the top of mount Everest.
@bigbob6556 hey, um, could you possibly leave. Science is wrong. Science has said all sorts of things in the past, and they have been proven wrong. Whose to say that science isn't wrong this time. Haven't you guys learned anything from your parents? If you aren't going to say anything nice, then shut your mouth. Why don't you take you science trash somewhere else, to a video where people care what you think. We don't care if you think we are wrong, cause we know we are right
@jhdoubleoseven Answer me, where did 2/3 of the water go needed to flood the earth? If there is one great god, why are there MILLIONS of variations of different religions around the world?
Don't you think if there is a God who can create man from dust, he can make enough water to flood the earth? Also, the different religions come from people saying, "Hey, whats that flying through the sky! :O it must be an angel" then through misconception people thinking it was a god and they need to worship it
Christ suffered no more or less than any other fictional character. There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of Adam and Eve. Therefore, the idea that Jesus "died for our sins" is silly and irrelevant. Moreover, there is no extra-biblical evidence that Jesus existed. Christianity is a silly death cult.
@heathdwatts Hi! Could you maybe take this nonsense to people who care? Cause no one cares if you think we are wrong, therefore, your comment was "silly and irrelevant"
@jhdoubleoseven You should care if you believe in nonsense. People who believe in nonsense are fools. Do you want to be considered a fool? It seems that you are a kid, so you have time to empty the religious nonsense from your brain and replace it with something useful. Good luck!
@heathdwatts Ok, fine. Let me empty my head. God tells me to love each other, not to murder, not to lie. Okay, great, now that I forgot that, I think I'll pretend to be someone I'm not, invite you to a job interview, tell you I hate you then shoot you. Cause thats the kinda people you get who don't have guidance. And let me tell you, I receive great guidance from my Lord
@jhdoubleoseven Do you think that humans survived as a species for 200,000 years and then the god of the Jews told us not to murder or lie, and to love each other? One does not need supernatural intervention for this to happen. If you actually need a 2000 year old book, written by pre-modern lunatics to guide you, then you might need psychiatric treatment. By the way, have you read Leviticus or Deuteronomy? They are filled with hatred and insanity and were "written" by the same "god". Good luck.
@heathdwatts One, nothing you say will EVER change my mind. Two, nothing you say will EVER change anyone else's mind. Three, you have no reason to even comment on this video because you are just being rude. Why can't you just accept that I love my Lord and thats that. I'm not a lunatic, I don't believe in nosense. Its just a belief. Haven't you been taught to respect other's religion? Or is society too corrupt to teach that nowdays? Your effort is futile. Your comments are futile.
"Christ is the son of God, could have survived anything. He chose to manifest himself as a human at that point of time. And allowed himself to die."
God is such a good God. Thank God that I live in a country where things like this was illegal. Or well I live in a different time. For I wouldn't be able to even think about the pain He was in.
Jesus Christ knows us each personally, it says in the bible that he knows us all so intimately, that he knows how many hairs are on our heads....He loves us as a Father, loves his children, ...with this being said, why would anyone give up there life for someone that they didn't know or love? .... Christ Jesus made this sacrifice because of his perfect love for each and everyone of us!
Jn 2-15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables
And for all you people who say that the Bible is the only historical document of Jesus' existence, that just shows how ignorant you are. Read Tacitus' writings on Him.
@Purif1ed What Tacitus said: "Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous SUPERSTITION, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the EVIL, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and SHAMEFUL from every part of the world find their centre and become popular". Sounds right. Scapegoating is a shameful superstion.
Jesus I belong to you. Although im not a good person i belive you have a place for me in heaven. But the fact is, God commanded you to die. And i cant even imagine what you been trough with the last day of your life
No one died for anyone's sin. Every human shall stand accountable for his/her own sins.. Accountability of sins can change the entire world! People rape murder and drink just because someone died for their sins.!
@quinofking Hi. You made a comment about a couple of years ago. You said that gods like Mithra, Buddah, Horus (Osiris, that is), Hercules, Krishna and others, died crucified (?).
If you had the precaution and document yourself, you would of not made such affirmations. Trust, I do not defend religion. I defend the greatest Man that ever put his feet on earth. If you want to believe, do it. If not, then believe what you want.
Next time, document yourself. There are lots of sites you can go to. :)
@heathdwatts I am sure jesus is not fictional for the whole world to buy his book i am sure that there was a man called jesus and we did nail him on a cross, but that is all i am sure of .people waste there whole lives trying to prove how much they love god , if there is a god is that what he would want i cant see it.
@veroooom This "god" is the same god that required human and animal sacrifices, genocide, incest, and murder in the OldTestament. For some reason, people like to worship megalomaniacal, supernatural beings. I don't agree with you about Jesus not being a fictional character, there is simply no historical evidence, other than the bible, supporting the stories about him.
@veroooom How do you know that important historical figures such as Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great and so on existed when you haven't seen them as well? Yes, they are recorded in historical documents and the same with Jesus (via the Bible).
@Argurios0 How do you know other peoples gods are fake then? You basically just said that anything with documentation is possibly real so why do almost all religions denounce the possibility of other divine beings like Buddha. Btw he didn't say Jesus doesn't or didn't exist he just said he can't see why people try to prove that god exists and that he can't see what god truly wants from us. People should all be open minded to all possibilities because people are proven wrong all the time.
@andydeee no. He sacrifices his life and died for our sins. He knows that he will die the next day after his last supper. Someone blamed him for something ehe did not did and he said He Is the Son of God. No one believes in him. The King got made and command the soldiers to torture him. Jesus Christ can't say no. Whether he wants or not he need to sacrifice. Just for us. I can't really explain. To know further informations, read the bible, new testament. GOD bless! :)
No. Suicide is when you kill yourself by your OWN hand. Knowing that you're going to be killed by someone else and not avoiding the circumstances that would lead to your death is not the same as suicide.
In the Roman days, the saints sang praises when they were fed to lions, put on crosses and burnt at the stake. Why? The sing of death had been removed. Why was Jesus afraid then to go to the cross? In the Garden, He drank the cup of God's wrath. Jesus wasnt so concerned of the physical torment - He taught us not to fear them that can kill the body. He told us to fear God alone who has power to cast into hell. Jesus was afraid of the wrath of God He would bear; the spiritual side was terrible.
A sometimes completely forgotten point, is that as horrible as the physical pain was, he ALSO took the sins of the world onto himself. Every sin ever committed, the guilt was placed on him. The reminder of how horrible the physical pain was is a moving experience. Then if we consider that taking on the guilt and shame of the entire world must have been WORSE than the physical pain, wow. Thank you Jesus. even during his time of suffering he cried out "forgive them, for they know not what they do"
even going through this video and understanding what happened, and how painful it was, i cannot find enough words that humans can express to show how much this means to me. . .
Old testament believers were saved from their sins in the same way as new testament believers - except that they looked forward to the event of the cross. It always was, and always is, about faith. "Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness." Romans 4:3
After his death, he tied up the devil & he set free the saints & the prophets (who died before him) from Hades & he took them along with him to the paradise.
I believe it's the answer you seek. God bless you.
So if he died for our sins. What happend to the people who died before him? Did their souls remain trapped? Or did they go to hell? I dont understand that statement? Please someone explain?
@underthespell13 Actually i talked to my pastor about this and he said before this there were the ten commandments and God "judged" off of that and i guess "kind acts?" sorry im not so clear i kinda forgot but this is kinda what i got out of it
@underthespell13 People who lived in Old Testament times before Jesus came had to sacrifice a lamb or some kind of animal to be forgiven,, i'm not too familiar with it but i know they had to do some kind of sacrifice. Jesus came and became the ultimate sacrifice so now all we have to do is admit to being a sinner, truly believe this happened, and accept God's grace and salvation
@underthespell13 God never changes. The prophecy of Christ's coming was given in Genesis 3:15 that Jesus would come and crush the devil (the serpent) and he would be struck on the heel (the cross). From the time of Adam, man knew a messiah was coming and could receive salvation by faith (Heb 11). The sacrificial system in the OT was a symbol of faith in the coming messiah. All judgement to all humanity comes the same way: Did you have faith in Jesus (or the coming messiah)?
One thing that he did not cover; how long does he think that Christ was on the cross before dying? Considering the injurys and the amount of pain, my best guess would be not very long.
The great scarifice that Jesus gave on our behalf.......the extreme agony that He went through for us,the story is never the same and it changes you.........nothing that we go through comes close or compares to what He went through for us.I WANT to know MORE of this LOVE that LOVES me with an EVERLASTING LOVE that my finite mind can't comprehend.
Mans thoughts and imagination to devise punishment, is cruelly severe. Jesus suffered the most devastating of abuses known to man. It is unbelievably inconceivable the brutal torture Jesus endured before, during and after His crucifixion. Thinking of what pain He endured for us that we may be reconciled back to GOD. Through Jesus’ precious blood, we've been made whole!
I feel that everyone has the right to believe what they want, for myself I chose what I want to do, say, feel, and think. And for that I am my own god. I don't rely on anything other than myself. But hey, that's just me :)
@RetroGlideWarewolf You're right, we all do have the right to believe what we want because Jesus wouldn't be loving to force us to repent and place our faith in Him, He left that as our choice. Regardless of what you may believe we all will stand in front of God one day. If you were in a courtroom today and told the judge you didn't believe in him, that doesn't negate the fact that he is your judge. You'll stand in front of Jesus Christ either as your Judge or your Savior. Make the right choice.
The ending was the most significant for me... when Dr. Acuna nearly cried at the thought of Christ's sacrifice... I've known people who love Jesus, but I've never seen anyone who appreciates him that much... it's cool
@JFCATRON the bible does say the middle of the hand, but as this doctor said if he was nailed in the middle of the hand the nail would have ripped straight out, the only way he could have been nailed to the cross at all is through the wrist. unless he wasn't nailed to the cross at all and none of it ever happened and the bible is fictional?
@TehDancingKiwi WELL APPARENTLY U MUST NO BE A BELIEVER CUZ U WOULDN'T BE ASKING IF THE BIBLE IS FICTIONAL OR NOT AND THE ROMANS PROLLY TIED HIS HANDS 2 THE CROSS LIKE I SAID BE4 PPL WILL C OUR LORD AND SAVIOR DAY OF JUDGMENT AND THEN THEY WILL C HIS SCARS JUST LIKE HIS DISCIPLES BUT AS A DOCTOR TIL U HAVE DEMONSTRATE IT U CAN'T SAY THAT FOR SURE AS A CHRISTIAN THAT I AM I BELIEVE AND WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE BUT ONE DAY THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE WILL FIND OUT THEN IT WILL BE 2 LATE GOD BLESS U!!!!!
@TehDancingKiwi In no place, in any version, does the bible state that the nails were placed in the middle of the hands. It mentions "hands", period. Now go look up what areas, from the forearm to the tip of the middle finger, the ancient Jews considered to be the hand or part of the hand. Do some serious homework.
What made Chists death the even more excrutiating than the phiscial torcher was that God the father had to turn his back on his son. Which is a pain we can not emagine. Excellent video though! Praise be to Jesus for ever amen!
The doc wasn't lying in saying that the scalp is very rich in blood vessels: I nicked my head with a razor trying to shave it and it bled for minutes!!! I really thought I had to go to the emergency from blood loss, haha! I mean it was a river. Imagine with sharp thorns ! Brrrr...
Lesson learned: don't use a disposable razor, use a (unfortunately very expensive) "big brand" one when shaving your head! (^_^)
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As a human being, he could not have fed 5,000 with what we would consider a small lunch. As a human alone, he could not have driven out demons. If he were merely human, he would have no power at all. There's a bit more to it than just choosing to be human. In a way, he was still very much God. That is how he survived this event until the proper moment. All the sins being committed as they were doing it to him had to be forgiven before he could go, I suppose. But I'll never understand completely
And the other Romans survived this for several days of crucifixion. There is demonstrable proof that you are wrong. Theory must agree with observation, and if it doesn't it must be discarded. That is a very basic fact of science, and you know it.
@ccarter010 There is a word for virgin, it's "Bethulah" but it was not used to describe Mary's condition. Words can be put in anyone's mouth, and as you've stated, it's all inferred/implied. The facts stand on their own, no point in ignoring them. Nailing people to things may have been a Roman favorite, but the word Crucifixion has too many meanings to declare a cross and nails. Too many translations regard Jesus hanging from a tree to make that plausible. Another Roman favorite.
This may be physiologically accurate with respect to the Bible, but the Bible should receive no respect from logical people. Christians (and many others) have made sure that "infidels" have suffered more horrifically than Jesus in the name of the True God. Skinning, sawing, burning. Religion poisons everything.
lapo3399 3 weeks ago
@lapo3399 Youre absolutely right. Religion is poison. But did you ever stop and think that maybe those people skinning, sawing and burning in the name of Christ were heretics and not truly Christians. Tru Christianity is following the lifestyle of Christ and as far as im concerned Christ did not skin, burn or saw anybody. So instead of attacking Christians as a whole and judging other people of other religions, maybe you need to understand the true doctrine of "Regeneration" or "Born Again".
mattchalupify 3 weeks ago
Yikes.
RocknForJesus 1 month ago
I WISH MORE PEOPLE ACCEPTED THIS FREE GIFT THAT COST SO MUCH.
heartnmind1 1 month ago
Brothers and sisters, Jesus was only a messenger. God placed someone else in Jesus place and saved him from being crucified. Jesus did mention the similarity of his miracle is as Jonas. People will think that he died/they died when (but) God saved him (them). Every person will be judged based on their actions. Can a sinner be equal to a righteous?
Jesus was only a messenger who submitted his wills to God. Worship God alone as anything beside that is a great sin if you only knew/know.
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 Firstly my friend, If Allah made it look like that Christ was on the cross when it was actually someone else, wouldn't that make Allah a deceiver ?? If thats the case, not only did he deceive the romans and the Jews, but he also deceived Mary and also his disciples who spread the news that Christ had risen from the dead, they even died for what they knew was 100% true
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@demhana11 In fact why didn't he just save Christ without deceiving anyone at all ?? I'm sorry my friend, but I absolutely refuse to believe that a 100% Holy, 100% Righteous and 100% Just God, who is 100% perfect in every way, uses deceptive tactics to carry out his plans.
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@MrHoppz93 God is saving his Messnger from those who are evil. there is nothing wrong with deceving those who refuse the truth tosave his messnger!? :P
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 So you are agreeing to the verse in the Qur'an that says "But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers " Surah.3.54 ? Not only that, if this verse is true, that means Allah duped the followers of Christ into thinking that Jesus died by crucifixion and further deceived them into thinking that he was raised back to life on the third day. They then went out preaching this message boldly,with some of them dying as martyrs because of it.
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@demhana11 If he was saving Christ, like i said, why didn't he just rescue Jesus without deceiving anyone at all ?
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@MrHoppz93 God knows best. he knew they will never be at ease until they believed that they've kiiled Jesus. those who went against Jesus were all disbelievers and will eventually be punished. so why are you so bothered about them being deceived?
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 If God was deceiving the enemies of Jesus, then I can understand, but I see a few problems with this.
1. Firstly, not only did God deceive the enemies of Jesus, but that means he also deceived Mary and including the disciples of Jesus into thinking he was put on the cross when he actually wasn't.
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@MrHoppz93 Only to those who wanted Jesus Dead. The angel told Mary that she will have a son, dont you think that she will be informed to?
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 well surely you would show me where she was told that Christ was not crucified then ? :)
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@demhana11 2. Secondly, the disciples of Jesus preached the message that Christ had risen after 3 days, they even became martyrs for preaching this message. So if the crucifixion was nothing but an act of deceitfulness at the hands of Allah, that means that the disciples of Jesus died for nothing.
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@MrHoppz93 No Bro, We Belive that Jesus was raised up,and will be sent down again... the desciples never mentioned anything about the crucifixion. before you read the Bible, how about reading the History of the Bible? how did the bible became into being? :)
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 I believe that Christ was raised up and will come back as well brother, I enoruage you to read the Book of Isaiah, the prophet Isaiah predicted the coming of Christ 700 years before christ came to earth, and also predicted that Christ would lay down his life for the sins of mankind, study it carefully and you will see :)
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@MrHoppz93 who wrote the book of Isaiah ?
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 the prophet Isaiah himself.
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@MrHoppz93 you sure he said that? did he speak English? you sure its not like how they changed from: "God, the flesh and the Spirit all agreed" to: "God, the flesh and the spirit all are ONE" ?
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 The original manuscripts of the Holy Bible are written in Hebrew and Greek, the Old testament is written in Hebrew whilst the New Testament is written in Greek, and as for that quote you cited, can you please give me the verse chapter and number ? :)
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@MrHoppz93 Alot of translations there... Quote? about Mary being told about Jesus? that was not a quote :P i was asking you.. in islam its Diff. because it wouldnt make a Diffrence if she knew or Not. "O Mary, Allah hath chosen thee and purified the-chosed thee above all the women of the nations." they were all chosen by Allah, and they trust and believed in Allah. she Knew God has his plans just as how he had/has for her.
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 anyways bro its getting kinda late but I've really enjoyed having this dialogue with you and I'll reply back to your responses tomorrow need be :) god bless ya :p
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
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@MrHoppz93 i inboxed you my Email Add, if you intrested we can carry over there. G,night and God bless :)
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 We Christians believe that God inspired the writers of the scriptures with the Holy Spirit to write down the revelations, to put it simply, we believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God as you probably already know :). It is true that the Bible was written by the hands of men, but we believe that the scriptures are inspired by God, there is only one thing in the Bible that wasn't written by the hands of men, the 10 Commandments :)
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@MrHoppz93 bro, what are the 10 commandments? please share!! LOL :P
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 lol my pleasure
1.You shall have no other gods before me.
2.You shall not make yourself any carved image, or any likeness of anything is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth, you shall not bow down to them nor serve them.
3.You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
4.Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
5.Honor your father and your mother.
6.You shall not murder.
7.You shall not commit adultery.
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@MrHoppz93 Bro, Christianity breaks the commandment from the start. its only in christianity that you worship others Beside God, only in christianly you see drawings of God and Jesus. the 10 commandment is something you wouldnt want to bring up if your trying to defend christianity O'pal! :D
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 Your obviously assuming that I'm guilty of committing shirk haha. Well I could give you plenty of quotes from Scripture which prove that he is more than just a mere prophet my friend, here is an example (John 8:58) "I tell you the truth, before Abraham was, I am". "I AM" is the eternal name of God, in fact the Jews during Jesus's time were very conscious in the sacredness of the Divine name and for reason it became common to say "Lord" instead.
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@MrHoppz93 No bro, i am not assuming anything, God only knows whats in your heart. i am only trying to answer your questions. You are quoting things written by people who wants you and everyone else to believe. there is a video here called "who wote the bible?" it has 12 parts. in the end they can only say to believe in whatis right because by the end of the series they knew that the bible has no proofs. if you have time do watch it.
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 Will do brother, My apologies for assuming that you assumed that haha :p, there is some videos of this talk show called "Jesus or Muhammad" I encourage you to watch some their vids :) in your own time of course haha :p
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
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@MrHoppz93 No biggie Dude! :) i will watch it thank you :)
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 Even more interesting is that when Christ said this, the Jews picked up stones to stone him because they knew that he was claiming to be equal with God. In fact Jesus even accepted worship, in Matthew 8:2 a leper came and worshipped Jesus, in Hebrews 1:6 Angels are instructed by God to worship Jesus, I could quote alot more if you want, if Jesus was just a man he would have rebuked people for worshipping him.
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8.You shall not steal.
9.You shall not lie.
10. You shall not covet.
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@demhana11 3. Thirdly, there are 2 Billion christians who believe that the crucifixion is 100% true, yet if it was made to look like that Jesus was crucified when he wasn't put on the cross at all, this also means that these 2 billion christians have also been deceived because of the deception of Allah.
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@MrHoppz93 Indeed, Allah did mention that alot will be misguided. to those who refuse to believe will take the whole act as deception. but those who believe will understand that God only wanted to safe his beloved mssnger. why do you not want to accpet something simple yet you can accept something so complicated such as the concept of trinity?
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 Is deception not something that man does? the Bible says in Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind"
Isn't God 100% perfect in every way ?
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@demhana11 4. Fourthly, the Crucifixion is the very foundation of the Christian faith, without the crucifixion, you have no Christianity. So if Surah 4:157 is true in saying that it was made to look like that Christ was on the cross when he actually wasn't, this means that because of Allah's deception, Allah is responsible for starting Christianity. Did Allah not know that this act of deception would start a new but false religion ?
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@MrHoppz93 Hehe bingo, your kinda getting it :). Jesus was not teaching christianity, people made chritianity only after Jesus death. God know that the msg wasnt spread. and Jesus know that he cant complete his mission because people were so arrogant and refused to believe. he spoke to the same people who followed him. Allah did not create christianity, you pelpe did. the trinity and crucifixionwas never mentioned in the bible. people put it there. again, Read the history of the Bible.:)
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 In fact Christ did predict his death and ressurection numerous times to his disciples, here is one example (Matthew 20:17-19) "And Jesus, going up to Jerusalem, took the twelve disciples aside along the way and said unto them, "Behold we go up to Jerusalem; and the Son of Man shall be betrayed unto the chief priests and unto the scribes, and they shall condemn Him to death, and shall deliver Him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify Him.
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
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@MrHoppz93 did they actualy see Jesus being Crucified?
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 And the third day He shall rise again". The bible does in fact mention the doctrine of the trinity, although the word "trinity" is not found in scripture, does mean that the doctrine is not there. Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit". If you want I will quote more examples :).
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
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@MrHoppz93 the problem here is that, you are quoting from things that has been written down. you are quoting them in English... :S besides, you've qouted: the father, AND the son, AND the holy spirit. they Sure are three. Three individuals.
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 5. Muhammad came 600 years after Christ, if Jesus was no more than a messenger and that he was not crucified, why on earth did it take Allah 600 years to send someone saying that the crucifixion was nothing but a fraud ?
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@MrHoppz93 there were approx 125,000 mssngers before Jesus and Muhammad. its been more than 1400years after Muhammad's Death and people still disbelieve in the Quran though it holds more proofs than anything. the people were not ready for any truth since they were more focused in worshiping their own Gods and making their own rules. Jesus said that. "you cannot bare the truth". if Mohammad came down any sooner they would have treated him just as they've treated Jesus.
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 Finally, the angel Gabriel declared that Mary was conceived with the Holy Spirit and that she would bring forth a son and his name would be Jesus and that he would save people from their sins (Matthew 1:21-23). Yet supposedly 600 years later, the angel Gabriel reveals to Muhammad that Christ wasn't crucified ? Why on earth would Gabriel contradict what he revealed to Mary 600 years earlier ?
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@MrHoppz93 no hard feelings at all bro. i am answering after all :). Jesus was sent to guid mankind, we believe that he was one of the most powerful messngers. Gabriel did not mention anything about Washing Sins since its only God that can forgive. i am not contradicting anything, the bible is contradicting itslf. we all know that Jesus did not succeed in passing the msg. that is why another mssnger had to come.
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 I don't mean any disrespect to you or anything, but I'm just saying that these are the problems that I see.
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
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@MrHoppz93 God knows best. he knew they will never be at ease until they believed that they've kiiled Jesus. those who went against Jesus were all disbelievers and will eventually be punished. so why are you so bothered about them being deceived?
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 Also my friend, do you believe that a person can get into heaven by doing good works ?
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@MrHoppz93 My friend, Define "Good". so no... i dont believe that a person can go to heaven just by doing "Good" work. who are we to decide what is good and bad? :P
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 I absolutely agree with you my friend, in our standard we may think we are pretty good people, but in God's standard, we're all in the same boat, we are all sinners, The Bible says in Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God", which also means that nothing we do can merit us salvation, salvation comes from the Lord, I'm sure you agree :)
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
@MrHoppz93 oh noo not like that buddy :P we all sin but we cannot be all in the same boat since in the End, it will be between you and God alone. everyone will be judged according to what theyve done. a child cannot be punished as how an adult murderer would be. We believe every person is Born Pure, it is later on he/she starts sinning due to temptations of this worldly life. to be good is to follow the Commands of God and his messngers. God will decide, not Jesus :) Jesus was a messnger
demhana11 1 month ago
@demhana11 I agree with you, we are held accountable for OUR sins :) We christians don't believe that the SINS of adam and eve were passed down to us, we inherited the DESIRE TO SIN from adam and eve because of their disobediance, we inherited the desire to go against God and to commit sin. By the way when i said "we are all in the same boat" I mean that we are all sinners by that statement, nothing more nothing less :)
MrHoppz93 1 month ago
Praise God! I LOVE you LORD! Thank you for dying not for me ONLY, but for the whole of humanity! We need to accept you as our sacrifice! I wish we could see the blood and accept O God!
TheCjp4life 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
sounds painful. too bad Jesus wasn't a god. wake up people. Jesus was a normal person and god isn't real.
Reiincarnation 2 months ago
@Reiincarnation NO ONE KNOWS anything about whether God is real or not and most of all NOT YOU!!!!
BluesHarp60 1 month ago
There is really no point in arguing with a logical, rational person about the existence of Christ because God permeates all barriers of science and logic. It's simply beyond the barrier of logic and rationalization. So for a person who bases his beliefs purely on science and logic simply can't comprehend God. The only way you can recognize Him is when He opens your eyes and saves you. You can't 'decide' to believe in Him. He opens your heart and THEN you can accept.
AuDazzity 3 months ago
I cant believe how cruel people can be.You have to be very senseless to do this to someone.Cruel punishment does not solves anyting, not to mention that not everyone who has been crucifixed in ancient times was actually a criminal.Remember that roman empire was expanded with so much violence and supression of many other nations, that sometimes people were forced to steal in order to feed themselves, since romans often took from them.
Aslara 3 months ago
I have no word about his sufferings because despite of having crucified Christ is still suffering from more and more agony in this world of ongonig falsehood,cruelty,crime and spiritual emptiness.So the tragic waste is going on.
alnamree 3 months ago
I even cried when I watched the passion of the Christ...
fremy123 3 months ago 6
@fremy123 I cired as well.Poor Jesus!To suffer all this to save us, the unworthy humans!And how we are repaying him?By being selfish, ungrateful and doing bad things to one another.I am not saying I dont believe in mankind at all, but we more often are following dark paths.
Aslara 3 months ago
Let me see if I've got this straight...God came to earth as himself (Jesus) to sacrifice himself unto himself in order to save humanity from himself?
ornitorrinco01 4 months ago
@ornitorrinco01 In a sense, yes, that is true. The God we know exists as two sentient entities, God the Father (the Most High), and God the Son (the Firstborn of all Creation). Together, they comprise Elohim, or the God-Family. Yahweh is the Most High and Yeshu'a is the Firstborn. The Holy Spirit is their shared power, inseparable from them, from which all phenomena of the universe are derived.
TheWitnesserer 4 months ago
@ornitorrinco01 However, as the two are separate sentient entities, God the Father sacrificed God the Son. But if you look at it another way and consider the two as a single collective entity (Elohim), then yes, "God" sacrificed Himself unto Himself lol.
TheWitnesserer 4 months ago
@TheWitnesserer Thanks very much for the reply and the clarification, I must admit that it all sounds very science fiction, very Lord of the Rings to me. But hey I realise that people believe this stuff and take it seriously so whatever floats your boat I guess.
ornitorrinco01 4 months ago
@ornitorrinco01 You're very welcome. In addition, God is what It is. I call It God, you may call It a naturally occurring phenomenon. Whether It is sentient is up to debate. Currently, that phenomenon some call "God" is unobservable by science and is therefore in the realm of hypothesis. A perfect example is Dark Matter. We currently call it Dark Matter because it is unobservable, however, we can observe its effects. If the rules are followed, then the effects of "God" can be observed as well.
TheWitnesserer 4 months ago
@ornitorrinco01 The only one who had anything right in the Bible was the one who wrote down the words of God as being "I am what I am." The reason for this is we cannot possibly fathom an infinite /thing/ that may be outside of the bounds of the laws of physics as we know it. What it is simply /is/; we cannot define it. Could there be a higher being? Definitely. Could there be nothing beyond? Of course. The truth is that we, as a race, may never /know/ the truth. The key word there is /know/.
TheWitnesserer 4 months ago
What people don't realize is that the significance of Christ's sacrifice wasn't his torture or even His death. When He says, "My God, my God, why have You forsaken me?" God literally turned His face away from the Firstborn, the perfect One, who was completely in tune with God and His will. And yet, this sinless being was viewed as being the most sinful, bearing ALL sins. And as sin separates man from God, so was Christ separated from God. For the perfect son, this is the most agonizing feeling.
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there is some debate in that. I believe that when Jesus says this, He was quoting a psalm. Back in His time, people did not have verses. The Jewish people memorized text. If I were to say, "For God so loved the world" you would think John 3:16 right? When Jesus says "My God, my God, why have You forsaken me?"
He is referring to Psalm 22. Think about that. Psalm 22 was written by David about a 1000 years before. Crucifixion wasn't invented until around the the 6 Century BC.
AdamTheRickMan 4 months ago
@AdamTheRickMan I'm not going to argue against you; your points are perfectly valid and I agree with your viewpoint. I base my own judgment on Biblical concepts. The Bible teaches that sin separates man from God and that the wages of sin is death (which can be viewed as either physical death or spiritual "death" or separation from God). Since Christ had all the sin (past, present, and future) literally dumped on Him, one can say that He was, in fact, forsaken because God cannot hear His cries.
TheWitnesserer 4 months ago
@TheWitnesserer I am so grateful to you for pointing out the Fact that God turned his face away from his only Son !!! That is why he died!! Not the Crucifixion! He died completely forsaken by his heavenly Father ! He became Sin and carried every disease known to man and his sins! It says the People present turned their faces and ran away in Horror!!!
BluesHarp60 1 month ago
@BluesHarp60 And that's the heart of the sacrifice. It transcends the body, occurring more on a cosmic scale. It's something we may never understand unless we could stand face-to-face with God and ask.
TheWitnesserer 1 month ago
@TheWitnesserer no sin is more valuable than Christ and every sin is worth waging war against.
RealJesusFreaks 1 month ago
shoot that was good
orangeblooforever 4 months ago
the bible said his sweat where as droplets of blood, it didnt say he was sweating blood. it just meant his sweat was heavy, so much so like an athelete with sweat litterally dripping off his body. so too was the sweating of jesus yet he was only praying, due to the fact he knows what was to take place, which leads to him saying if the cup could pass from him. if you know you were gonna die that way he did what do you think wouldve happened to you?
tafarimekenen 5 months ago
lol, no such thing as Jesus. Cant believe all you idiots believe in god. Its all scientifically impossible. Even Noahs ark is proven to be fake. Out of all the water in our atmosphere, ice, earth, and oceans, we still need 3x that to get to the top of mount Everest.
bigbob6556 5 months ago
@bigbob6556 hey, um, could you possibly leave. Science is wrong. Science has said all sorts of things in the past, and they have been proven wrong. Whose to say that science isn't wrong this time. Haven't you guys learned anything from your parents? If you aren't going to say anything nice, then shut your mouth. Why don't you take you science trash somewhere else, to a video where people care what you think. We don't care if you think we are wrong, cause we know we are right
jhdoubleoseven 5 months ago
@jhdoubleoseven Answer me, where did 2/3 of the water go needed to flood the earth? If there is one great god, why are there MILLIONS of variations of different religions around the world?
bigbob6556 5 months ago
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Don't you think if there is a God who can create man from dust, he can make enough water to flood the earth? Also, the different religions come from people saying, "Hey, whats that flying through the sky! :O it must be an angel" then through misconception people thinking it was a god and they need to worship it
jhdoubleoseven 5 months ago
Christ suffered no more or less than any other fictional character. There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of Adam and Eve. Therefore, the idea that Jesus "died for our sins" is silly and irrelevant. Moreover, there is no extra-biblical evidence that Jesus existed. Christianity is a silly death cult.
heathdwatts 5 months ago
@heathdwatts Hi! Could you maybe take this nonsense to people who care? Cause no one cares if you think we are wrong, therefore, your comment was "silly and irrelevant"
jhdoubleoseven 5 months ago
@jhdoubleoseven You should care if you believe in nonsense. People who believe in nonsense are fools. Do you want to be considered a fool? It seems that you are a kid, so you have time to empty the religious nonsense from your brain and replace it with something useful. Good luck!
heathdwatts 5 months ago
@heathdwatts Ok, fine. Let me empty my head. God tells me to love each other, not to murder, not to lie. Okay, great, now that I forgot that, I think I'll pretend to be someone I'm not, invite you to a job interview, tell you I hate you then shoot you. Cause thats the kinda people you get who don't have guidance. And let me tell you, I receive great guidance from my Lord
jhdoubleoseven 5 months ago
@jhdoubleoseven Do you think that humans survived as a species for 200,000 years and then the god of the Jews told us not to murder or lie, and to love each other? One does not need supernatural intervention for this to happen. If you actually need a 2000 year old book, written by pre-modern lunatics to guide you, then you might need psychiatric treatment. By the way, have you read Leviticus or Deuteronomy? They are filled with hatred and insanity and were "written" by the same "god". Good luck.
heathdwatts 5 months ago
@heathdwatts One, nothing you say will EVER change my mind. Two, nothing you say will EVER change anyone else's mind. Three, you have no reason to even comment on this video because you are just being rude. Why can't you just accept that I love my Lord and thats that. I'm not a lunatic, I don't believe in nosense. Its just a belief. Haven't you been taught to respect other's religion? Or is society too corrupt to teach that nowdays? Your effort is futile. Your comments are futile.
jhdoubleoseven 5 months ago
@jhdoubleoseven Why would I respect someone's religion? It's silly nonsense that dulls the mind and causes people to act irrationally and violently.
heathdwatts 5 months ago
thank Jesus , we do not deserve all the pain you have gone through for us and died a sacrificial death on the cross for our sin
jacoby841 6 months ago
if it was not for jesus we be on the cross
funky3211 6 months ago
@funky3211 Even after His sacrifice, it seems we still deserve to be up on our own crosses.
TheWitnesserer 1 month ago
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the truth is, i wouldn't take the place of this Man.
thank you Jesus (':
joyyyyyfication 6 months ago
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joyyyyyfication 6 months ago
im atheist, i just see no proof
Gagedudeman 6 months ago
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rebelgabriel4308 6 months ago
@Gagedudeman Death is not proof?
rebelgabriel4308 6 months ago
"Christ is the son of God, could have survived anything. He chose to manifest himself as a human at that point of time. And allowed himself to die."
God is such a good God. Thank God that I live in a country where things like this was illegal. Or well I live in a different time. For I wouldn't be able to even think about the pain He was in.
EnterSomethingUseful 6 months ago
@EnterSomethingUseful You electrocute people.
grobo11 6 months ago
Take that ahemmediyyas
Zanimater 7 months ago
Jesus Christ knows us each personally, it says in the bible that he knows us all so intimately, that he knows how many hairs are on our heads....He loves us as a Father, loves his children, ...with this being said, why would anyone give up there life for someone that they didn't know or love? .... Christ Jesus made this sacrifice because of his perfect love for each and everyone of us!
EdEvil777 7 months ago
Jn 2-15 And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables
EagleClawHere 7 months ago
Some known facts about Jesus:
1) He died.
2) Three days after He died, He was alive again.
Awesome.
And for all you people who say that the Bible is the only historical document of Jesus' existence, that just shows how ignorant you are. Read Tacitus' writings on Him.
Purif1ed 7 months ago
@Purif1ed 'lol' at the word 'facts'.
MisterJamMasterJay 7 months ago
Even if he existed, it doesn't mean he was the son of God. @Purif1ed
Inspiration235 6 months ago
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MrApikoros 6 months ago
@Purif1ed What Tacitus said: "Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous SUPERSTITION, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the EVIL, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and SHAMEFUL from every part of the world find their centre and become popular". Sounds right. Scapegoating is a shameful superstion.
MrApikoros 6 months ago
Jesus I belong to you. Although im not a good person i belive you have a place for me in heaven. But the fact is, God commanded you to die. And i cant even imagine what you been trough with the last day of your life
buyo69Losinj 8 months ago
No one died for anyone's sin. Every human shall stand accountable for his/her own sins.. Accountability of sins can change the entire world! People rape murder and drink just because someone died for their sins.!
xbroadcaster1991 8 months ago
@quinofking Hi. You made a comment about a couple of years ago. You said that gods like Mithra, Buddah, Horus (Osiris, that is), Hercules, Krishna and others, died crucified (?).
If you had the precaution and document yourself, you would of not made such affirmations. Trust, I do not defend religion. I defend the greatest Man that ever put his feet on earth. If you want to believe, do it. If not, then believe what you want.
Next time, document yourself. There are lots of sites you can go to. :)
Satyr79x 8 months ago
@heathdwatts I am sure jesus is not fictional for the whole world to buy his book i am sure that there was a man called jesus and we did nail him on a cross, but that is all i am sure of .people waste there whole lives trying to prove how much they love god , if there is a god is that what he would want i cant see it.
veroooom 9 months ago
@veroooom This "god" is the same god that required human and animal sacrifices, genocide, incest, and murder in the OldTestament. For some reason, people like to worship megalomaniacal, supernatural beings. I don't agree with you about Jesus not being a fictional character, there is simply no historical evidence, other than the bible, supporting the stories about him.
heathdwatts 9 months ago
@veroooom How do you know that important historical figures such as Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great and so on existed when you haven't seen them as well? Yes, they are recorded in historical documents and the same with Jesus (via the Bible).
Argurios0 9 months ago
@Argurios0 How do you know other peoples gods are fake then? You basically just said that anything with documentation is possibly real so why do almost all religions denounce the possibility of other divine beings like Buddha. Btw he didn't say Jesus doesn't or didn't exist he just said he can't see why people try to prove that god exists and that he can't see what god truly wants from us. People should all be open minded to all possibilities because people are proven wrong all the time.
jerkface37 9 months ago
Christ chose to die? Isn't that suicide?
andydeee 9 months ago
@andydeee no. He sacrifices his life and died for our sins. He knows that he will die the next day after his last supper. Someone blamed him for something ehe did not did and he said He Is the Son of God. No one believes in him. The King got made and command the soldiers to torture him. Jesus Christ can't say no. Whether he wants or not he need to sacrifice. Just for us. I can't really explain. To know further informations, read the bible, new testament. GOD bless! :)
evarootbeer22 8 months ago
@andydeee
No. Suicide is when you kill yourself by your OWN hand. Knowing that you're going to be killed by someone else and not avoiding the circumstances that would lead to your death is not the same as suicide.
cinquecinque13 7 months ago
im assuming the doctor is christian???
volleyball1141 9 months ago
...shouldn't have included the spear, he was dead by then
GeorgePennellMartin 9 months ago
Very touching video...Thank you for the medical explanation.
leopoldvs 9 months ago
In the Roman days, the saints sang praises when they were fed to lions, put on crosses and burnt at the stake. Why? The sing of death had been removed. Why was Jesus afraid then to go to the cross? In the Garden, He drank the cup of God's wrath. Jesus wasnt so concerned of the physical torment - He taught us not to fear them that can kill the body. He told us to fear God alone who has power to cast into hell. Jesus was afraid of the wrath of God He would bear; the spiritual side was terrible.
WhatSaithScripture 9 months ago
A sometimes completely forgotten point, is that as horrible as the physical pain was, he ALSO took the sins of the world onto himself. Every sin ever committed, the guilt was placed on him. The reminder of how horrible the physical pain was is a moving experience. Then if we consider that taking on the guilt and shame of the entire world must have been WORSE than the physical pain, wow. Thank you Jesus. even during his time of suffering he cried out "forgive them, for they know not what they do"
Jociek7 9 months ago
I'm not Christian, but my heart goes out to Jesus anyways...this sounds TERRIBLE.
Punkerthanthou6 9 months ago
Christ is risen from the dead,
trampling over death by death.
Come awake, come awake!
Come and rise up from the grave!
- Christ is Risen By: Matt Maher ♪♫
KillerAzn629 9 months ago
wow thank you for uploading this! it is a good reminder of what Jesus did for me, and what he went through.
CloudWatcherX 9 months ago
Very nice explanation of the fysical cruifixion. Too bad it had to end in a christian commercial.
voidium 9 months ago
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Brulluhman 9 months ago
I'm so grateful for jesus' suffering and taking away our sins. Or else there would be wars all over the world.
pizzaQuiqk 9 months ago
@pizzaQuiqk I really hope you're being sarcastic...
AHippoNamedFred 9 months ago
Thank you Jesus. I don't deserve your love & sacrifice but I am so grateful.
LampPostShade 9 months ago 53
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@LampPostShade You need to understand that you do deserve it.
usman4christ 2 months ago
Absolutely beautifully amazing. Thank you for taking the time to go through tons of med school to share these truths and facts with us.
NecrosVenator 9 months ago
even going through this video and understanding what happened, and how painful it was, i cannot find enough words that humans can express to show how much this means to me. . .
sgsuperman1 9 months ago 22
The question was, What does Jesus' suffering mean to you?
The answer is: Everything.
Everything that I see, everything that I do, everything that I say, everything that I think, and everything that I feel.
The suffering that Jesus Christ went through IS EVERYTHING TO ME.
TheRjb2010 9 months ago 3
@TheRjb2010 i more than whole heartedly agree, more than i can even know, at least till i meet Him
sgsuperman1 9 months ago
Old testament believers were saved from their sins in the same way as new testament believers - except that they looked forward to the event of the cross. It always was, and always is, about faith. "Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness." Romans 4:3
mforish 9 months ago
After his death, he tied up the devil & he set free the saints & the prophets (who died before him) from Hades & he took them along with him to the paradise.
I believe it's the answer you seek. God bless you.
ManoonSSR 9 months ago
So if he died for our sins. What happend to the people who died before him? Did their souls remain trapped? Or did they go to hell? I dont understand that statement? Please someone explain?
underthespell13 9 months ago
@underthespell13 What I believe *and how I understand* is that they are going to be judged in a different way.
I dont believe that hell exists yet.. there is noone in heaven OR hell... (except God/Jesus/Devil/Angels/Demons)
IcyBluAngel 9 months ago
@underthespell13 Actually i talked to my pastor about this and he said before this there were the ten commandments and God "judged" off of that and i guess "kind acts?" sorry im not so clear i kinda forgot but this is kinda what i got out of it
jyh9 9 months ago
@underthespell13 People who lived in Old Testament times before Jesus came had to sacrifice a lamb or some kind of animal to be forgiven,, i'm not too familiar with it but i know they had to do some kind of sacrifice. Jesus came and became the ultimate sacrifice so now all we have to do is admit to being a sinner, truly believe this happened, and accept God's grace and salvation
Alabamatruck00 9 months ago
@underthespell13 God never changes. The prophecy of Christ's coming was given in Genesis 3:15 that Jesus would come and crush the devil (the serpent) and he would be struck on the heel (the cross). From the time of Adam, man knew a messiah was coming and could receive salvation by faith (Heb 11). The sacrificial system in the OT was a symbol of faith in the coming messiah. All judgement to all humanity comes the same way: Did you have faith in Jesus (or the coming messiah)?
andrewyp 8 months ago
JESUS gave up the ghost!!! HE chose when to die!!!
rafyraf100 9 months ago
One thing that he did not cover; how long does he think that Christ was on the cross before dying? Considering the injurys and the amount of pain, my best guess would be not very long.
Mightymopar1973 9 months ago
@Mightymopar1973
I believe Scripture says it was a few hours...
BeAPepperXXIII 9 months ago
@Mightymopar1973 Well, he was God, so he could survive for how ever long he wanted to endure that pain to save our souls.
Bennyrulez1997 9 months ago
That was the point of the whole crucifixion to cause pain while they slowly died. The victims would suffocate.
GATORMOUTHband 9 months ago
I could never be grateful enough for anyone who would go through such pain for me. I'm no christian, im saying this as a person who believes in love.
sorakairi1993 9 months ago
The great scarifice that Jesus gave on our behalf.......the extreme agony that He went through for us,the story is never the same and it changes you.........nothing that we go through comes close or compares to what He went through for us.I WANT to know MORE of this LOVE that LOVES me with an EVERLASTING LOVE that my finite mind can't comprehend.
loveisacross 9 months ago
Mans thoughts and imagination to devise punishment, is cruelly severe. Jesus suffered the most devastating of abuses known to man. It is unbelievably inconceivable the brutal torture Jesus endured before, during and after His crucifixion. Thinking of what pain He endured for us that we may be reconciled back to GOD. Through Jesus’ precious blood, we've been made whole!
Southwestairlines737 9 months ago
im crying
firedude384 9 months ago
I feel that everyone has the right to believe what they want, for myself I chose what I want to do, say, feel, and think. And for that I am my own god. I don't rely on anything other than myself. But hey, that's just me :)
RetroGlideWarewolf 9 months ago
@RetroGlideWarewolf You're right, we all do have the right to believe what we want because Jesus wouldn't be loving to force us to repent and place our faith in Him, He left that as our choice. Regardless of what you may believe we all will stand in front of God one day. If you were in a courtroom today and told the judge you didn't believe in him, that doesn't negate the fact that he is your judge. You'll stand in front of Jesus Christ either as your Judge or your Savior. Make the right choice.
BuckeyeFan511 9 months ago
The ending was the most significant for me... when Dr. Acuna nearly cried at the thought of Christ's sacrifice... I've known people who love Jesus, but I've never seen anyone who appreciates him that much... it's cool
swim4scofield 9 months ago
It's never the same story when you realize how much pain our sins warranted.
hypnocake 10 months ago
What a price our Lord pay'd for us ! Yes, stunned ! Jesus Christ, Son of God LIVES !!! Lord, You are my KING !
Fons1958 10 months ago
Just sitting here, stunned.
jgesselberty 10 months ago
@JFCATRON the bible does say the middle of the hand, but as this doctor said if he was nailed in the middle of the hand the nail would have ripped straight out, the only way he could have been nailed to the cross at all is through the wrist. unless he wasn't nailed to the cross at all and none of it ever happened and the bible is fictional?
TehDancingKiwi 10 months ago
@TehDancingKiwi WELL APPARENTLY U MUST NO BE A BELIEVER CUZ U WOULDN'T BE ASKING IF THE BIBLE IS FICTIONAL OR NOT AND THE ROMANS PROLLY TIED HIS HANDS 2 THE CROSS LIKE I SAID BE4 PPL WILL C OUR LORD AND SAVIOR DAY OF JUDGMENT AND THEN THEY WILL C HIS SCARS JUST LIKE HIS DISCIPLES BUT AS A DOCTOR TIL U HAVE DEMONSTRATE IT U CAN'T SAY THAT FOR SURE AS A CHRISTIAN THAT I AM I BELIEVE AND WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE BUT ONE DAY THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE WILL FIND OUT THEN IT WILL BE 2 LATE GOD BLESS U!!!!!
JFCATRON 10 months ago
@TehDancingKiwi In no place, in any version, does the bible state that the nails were placed in the middle of the hands. It mentions "hands", period. Now go look up what areas, from the forearm to the tip of the middle finger, the ancient Jews considered to be the hand or part of the hand. Do some serious homework.
RythmandStrings 10 months ago
The physical death was a little thing, what was happening in the spiritual realm was what made Christ say, "Father let this cup pass from me.."
5starsoldier 11 months ago
He loved us to death! Now he lives! :)
Lexnaulaaprillia 11 months ago
What made Chists death the even more excrutiating than the phiscial torcher was that God the father had to turn his back on his son. Which is a pain we can not emagine. Excellent video though! Praise be to Jesus for ever amen!
Lexnaulaaprillia 11 months ago
The doc wasn't lying in saying that the scalp is very rich in blood vessels: I nicked my head with a razor trying to shave it and it bled for minutes!!! I really thought I had to go to the emergency from blood loss, haha! I mean it was a river. Imagine with sharp thorns ! Brrrr...
Lesson learned: don't use a disposable razor, use a (unfortunately very expensive) "big brand" one when shaving your head! (^_^)
amazingdany 11 months ago
@amazingdany Amen Danny! Youre not the Lone Ranger on that!
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JFCATRON 11 months ago
As a human being, he could not have fed 5,000 with what we would consider a small lunch. As a human alone, he could not have driven out demons. If he were merely human, he would have no power at all. There's a bit more to it than just choosing to be human. In a way, he was still very much God. That is how he survived this event until the proper moment. All the sins being committed as they were doing it to him had to be forgiven before he could go, I suppose. But I'll never understand completely
MultiPickleTickler 11 months ago
@JFCATRON the wrist is part of the hand, which means if it goes through the wrist, it still counts as going through the hand. Get your facts right.
agusting2174 11 months ago
Even with all this info, we are still far from understanding all that Jesus did for us on that cross... I LOVE GOD
IloveYOUviruses 11 months ago
And the other Romans survived this for several days of crucifixion. There is demonstrable proof that you are wrong. Theory must agree with observation, and if it doesn't it must be discarded. That is a very basic fact of science, and you know it.
nightvidcole 1 year ago
The nails went through the Palms of His Precious Hands.. He did die but rejoyce because He did arise.
SharonDuke1 1 year ago
One of the best videos out here. Keep it going....
TheLORDismySheperd1 1 year ago
@ccarter010 There is a word for virgin, it's "Bethulah" but it was not used to describe Mary's condition. Words can be put in anyone's mouth, and as you've stated, it's all inferred/implied. The facts stand on their own, no point in ignoring them. Nailing people to things may have been a Roman favorite, but the word Crucifixion has too many meanings to declare a cross and nails. Too many translations regard Jesus hanging from a tree to make that plausible. Another Roman favorite.
milackk7 1 year ago