@K64JT There are none. When in the tunnel, the buses operate in a special "Hush" mode where the hybrid's electric motors move the bus, without using the diesel. Because some systems depend on the diesel motor, a second electric motor actually spins the diesel motor's crankshaft, which is why it kinda sounds like the motor is running, and why hot air is coming out of the exhaust. No fuel is burned.
Trolley Buses do not use the tunnel any more, however the overhead wire is now used for LINK Light Rail which started running thru the tunnel in July 09.
Trolley Buses run on Surface routes, you can find most running during the week on the 7, 43 and 49, they tend to assign Hybrids to these routes on the weekends.
No, I am not saying that at all, I was referring to the 60' buses that used to run in the tunnel since that was the basis of your question/comment. Seattle has lots of 40' Gillig Trolley buses that run on Surface Trolley routes 7 days a week that have never been in the tunnel. Just the big routes that use 60' Trolley buses have hybrids on them on the weekends most of the time.
The thing about it is, they made that excuse for Hamilton and sometimes Toronto, and BOTH cities foolishly ended up getting rid of them by 1993. Edmonton is ANOTHER perfect example of this. THEY just got rid of theirs in March!
Glad to hear it! As long as they have the 40 ft ones running all the time 7 days a week, we should we good then! If Seattle gets low floor trolley buses like they have in Boston, Philadelphia, San Francisco and Vancouver, OTHER cities might decide to bring THEIRS back again like when THEY had THEIRS in the past except BETTER this time MUCH better!
Its funny 2 of you said that, its actually the 2008 DE60LF, for some reason the front and back packs are the same size now. I think it might be a part of the BRT design where the whole top is streamlined together.
The reason why there's two rooftop tanks is because the new hybrids have all of the HVAC (Heat, Ventilation, A/C) units on the rooftop of the bus for both sections of the bus. As a result some of the batteries that use to occupy the roof of the rear section of the bus had to be displaced to the roof of the front section to make room for the rooftop HVAC unit for the rear section of the bus. So that's why there's a rooftop tank on each section of the bus.
On the older hybrids, the HVAC unit for the back section of the bus is located in the rear compartment above the engine. You can check it out for yourself, if you go to the back of an older hybrid you'll notice the intake vent for the HVAC in the back section of the bus is located on the back wall. In the newer hybrids, the intake vent for the HVAC is located on the cieling, just around the rear doors. I don't know why KCM ordered them like that, no one else got their DE60LFs like that.
Bus #1 there had a wheelchair ramp problem, causing the 12 buses to backup into the tunnel. Was a sight to see, which is why I sat down and turned on the camera =)
Nice video man, you should try and get a v ideo of one of those new 68XXs, they're quite different. They have the Cummins ISL engine while the older ones have the CAT C9 engine. Among other differences.
How does Seattle deal with all the emissions and exhausts from these buses in the tunnel?
K64JT 1 year ago
@K64JT There are none. When in the tunnel, the buses operate in a special "Hush" mode where the hybrid's electric motors move the bus, without using the diesel. Because some systems depend on the diesel motor, a second electric motor actually spins the diesel motor's crankshaft, which is why it kinda sounds like the motor is running, and why hot air is coming out of the exhaust. No fuel is burned.
compboy1 1 year ago
Do Trolleybuses ever actually USE the tunnels anymore? Or are the wires just still down in there for display ONLY now?
Moose2482 2 years ago
Trolley Buses do not use the tunnel any more, however the overhead wire is now used for LINK Light Rail which started running thru the tunnel in July 09.
punkrawker4783 2 years ago
I see, THAT clarifies EVERYTHING! Where do the trolleybuses travel NOW?
Moose2482 2 years ago
Trolley Buses run on Surface routes, you can find most running during the week on the 7, 43 and 49, they tend to assign Hybrids to these routes on the weekends.
punkrawker4783 2 years ago
SO you are saying there is not a SINGLE trolley bus in the city of Seattle during the weekends?!
Moose2482 2 years ago
No, I am not saying that at all, I was referring to the 60' buses that used to run in the tunnel since that was the basis of your question/comment. Seattle has lots of 40' Gillig Trolley buses that run on Surface Trolley routes 7 days a week that have never been in the tunnel. Just the big routes that use 60' Trolley buses have hybrids on them on the weekends most of the time.
punkrawker4783 2 years ago
Why do they use the 60 ft hybrids instead of 60 ft Trolley buses on weekends?
Moose2482 2 years ago
maintenance?
dumbass1984 2 years ago
The thing about it is, they made that excuse for Hamilton and sometimes Toronto, and BOTH cities foolishly ended up getting rid of them by 1993. Edmonton is ANOTHER perfect example of this. THEY just got rid of theirs in March!
Moose2482 2 years ago
Every Seattle politician is in full support of trolley buses, so I don't think that will happen.
dumbass1984 2 years ago
Glad to hear it! As long as they have the 40 ft ones running all the time 7 days a week, we should we good then! If Seattle gets low floor trolley buses like they have in Boston, Philadelphia, San Francisco and Vancouver, OTHER cities might decide to bring THEIRS back again like when THEY had THEIRS in the past except BETTER this time MUCH better!
Moose2482 2 years ago
@punkrawker4783 Also, the 1, 2, 3, 4, 10, 12, 13, 14, 36, 44 are all trolley routes, I know cause i take them often.
FASSY524 1 year ago
nice vid. that one bus around 3:01 looks like it could be a C60LF
ea90744 2 years ago
Its funny 2 of you said that, its actually the 2008 DE60LF, for some reason the front and back packs are the same size now. I think it might be a part of the BRT design where the whole top is streamlined together.
punkrawker4783 2 years ago
The reason why there's two rooftop tanks is because the new hybrids have all of the HVAC (Heat, Ventilation, A/C) units on the rooftop of the bus for both sections of the bus. As a result some of the batteries that use to occupy the roof of the rear section of the bus had to be displaced to the roof of the front section to make room for the rooftop HVAC unit for the rear section of the bus. So that's why there's a rooftop tank on each section of the bus.
MT0603 2 years ago
On the older hybrids, the HVAC unit for the back section of the bus is located in the rear compartment above the engine. You can check it out for yourself, if you go to the back of an older hybrid you'll notice the intake vent for the HVAC in the back section of the bus is located on the back wall. In the newer hybrids, the intake vent for the HVAC is located on the cieling, just around the rear doors. I don't know why KCM ordered them like that, no one else got their DE60LFs like that.
MT0603 2 years ago
the very first bus looked very bootleg it would be like a c60lf
kingjokerakadd1 3 years ago
12 buses going one way and only 1 the other way
aznichiro115 3 years ago
Bus #1 there had a wheelchair ramp problem, causing the 12 buses to backup into the tunnel. Was a sight to see, which is why I sat down and turned on the camera =)
punkrawker4783 3 years ago
Nice video man, you should try and get a v ideo of one of those new 68XXs, they're quite different. They have the Cummins ISL engine while the older ones have the CAT C9 engine. Among other differences.
MT0603 3 years ago