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  • Our soldiers I'd say 2 out of every 5 have PTSD no further comments.

  • Checkout the new song 'Spilling Our Blood For War' on Youtube.

  • excellent documentary!can I find a transcript for this somewhere?I would like to translate it into my language.

  • mass of wmd is oil 

  • Iraq did not fund anything, we claimed they had weapons of mass destruction (which we sold to them) then when they wouldn't give them up we invaded them and are still occupying them. Also, if this was about who funded terrorists why aren't we invading Saudi Arabia or Pakistan (look it up). Also, who cares about our casualty rate when during this war 110,000 Iraqi Civilians (actual body count) have been killed in violence and estimates of the real numbers range from 150,000-600,000.

  • @elmoisamac You are invading Pakistan through Drone Attacks and secondly dont confuse Pakistan with Iraq. Our military is much stronger than Iraq!

  • The official body count for iraqis is 110,000 with less than 20,000 "insurgents" killed. Additionally, many more iraqis have been killed with no official report, but some studies estimate 200,000-600,000 iraqis have died from violence. In my opinion this sounds like genocide. The media barely tells us these facts, but it's what I think really matters. It makes me ashamed to be an American.

  • Does anyone here realise that, no matter what the number of casualties is, one is too many. The war in Iraq is nothing more than US empirialism,, enriching a select few (Haliburton, Oil industry), destroying a country, and justifying all this in the name of fighting terror. WAKE UP PEOPLE!. The US has been waging wars based on lies, to take down their own ex-CIA operatives (panama, Cuba) for decenia now, and people are too stupid to realise it. NEVER BELIEVE THE MEDIA!

  • Stoya, most people are too busy for Youtube debates and haven't obsessively compiled their sources/arguments in case an opportunity for one such debate should arise.

  • Americans are idiots !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you go to other country, began the war and you say that you are right? did Iraqis come here and attack you? No!!!!!!! you went there!!! you are fucking Masonic country and the God will give you the answer!!!!!!

  • Yes but they funded the terrorist orginizations who attacked us. they also sponsored and trained them. They also gave them a safe haven in Iraq plus much much more. If you don't know why we're there, just shut the fuck up and stay with your business.

    PS: 4000 dead with great success thanks to General Pratreus. Compared to any war in history that is a victory. Youtube is no place for REAL facts.

    Vietnam 57,000 dead

    Korea 55,000

    WW2 160,000

    Desert Storm 1000*

  • "Yes but they funded the terrorist orginizations"

    That's not a valid argument. The US funded the taliban and bin laden, and the CIA put saddam into power in the first place and armed him. (all in the name of fighting communism)

    If you add all the dictators and guerillas in south america that received (and still receive) american support too, then if your argument was valid that would mean someone has to start bombing Washington ASAP.

  • For anyone who thinks the great formmer leaders of the US were anti war, here are some quotes:

    "It is an unfortunat fact, that we can only secure peace by preparing for war."-JFK

    "If somebody throws a brick at me, I catch it and throw it back." Harry S. Truman

    "We make war so that we may live in peace."-Aristodle

    Many successful leaders WERE successful because they knew the world was a dangerous place... Do wat u gotta do. Peace only comes when some1 gets their asses kicked.

  • Im not againt war, nor am i peace loving hippe, but the war in iraq is bullshit. So much money, resorces, time, and most importantly life, has been wasted on this war, looking for someone who clearly has no wmd, and even if samdam did, its not our duty to remove it from them becuase iraq wsant our biggest threat. I eman if we need to remove wmd from every contey other then out allies then why the fuck don't we just invade iran because we KNOW they have wepons of mass destruction?

  • Secondly we didn't just go in for WMDs. But sonce you guys lack knowledge like the person who made this dumb video, you just assume your correct. Get the real facts.

    Look at the history of post afghanistan after the soviet invasion and you'll see y we're in there. Just look at what happend to the governemnt and who took over. If that happens in Iraq we'll end up having to go in again. GET REAL facts people before you start thrashing another country's dessisions.

  • i needed that sob sob x_x

    thay never had wepons of mass disturction!!!!!!!!!!!!! x_x

  • It is so touching to read these guys here who are willing to re-up to fight for Halliburton. What have Cheney and Halliburton ever done for you?

    It seems that they are also willing for follow chickenhawk neocons like Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Kristol, etc etc etc. None of whom ever thought themselves dignified enough to serve.

    Bring on Iran, as chickenhawk deserter Bush is saying.

  • i support the war and our troops i think the media should support us and stop poisoning our people into going against bush. like i have said before the media was against bush for not helping iraq and for not taking out saddam and his sons that would kill thier own people with torture and chemical weapons. now that we do somthing about it the media damns us for doing something.

  • Look at Wikipedia.

    There have been less than 10 thousand American troops killed in the war.

    There have been over 30 thousand civilian casualties, and now they're even saying we're seeing minor forms of genocide (ethnic cleansing is a douchebaggy term for it).

    Think Saddam would have done the same on his own?

  • Barcode711 Wikipidea is not relyable, anyone can edit it. Just look at the military public records...

    Your dead wrong on the 10,000 deaths of americans. Your dead wrong on the civilian causalties, its about 15-17 thousand, and those were from enemy fire.

  • They have sources. Those are those little boxes. If you don't believe what you're reading, you can click those and read the source documents to verify.

  • no offense but i have records too. And more veterans say that this war is worth fighting for.

    I used to be a damn liberal, did u not read the comments before? I was on the other side, and it was complete bullshit.

    In the end, the war is being won and i have proof of this... Read the comment above. Why leave a war when we're already winning, PS: this is no conventional war, thats why the costs are sooooo high. But 4000 deaths is sad, but is considered in the eyes of history as a victory

  • 1. Violence down by 75%

    2. Iraqi police and army is starting to win battles on their own.

    3. We withdrew from the western province of Iraq, and now thew Iraqi forces are in control, with no problems

    4. We are now finally having timetables for leaving Iraq in victory.

    5.We're getting to withdraw from the north due to resent successes.

    My cousin is in the Army... Trust me i know wht the troops are thinking.

    I've given more facts that contradict this video... I reat my case.

  • So it's all about winning?

    The question is wether or not the war in Iraq is a good thing, not wether or not the US will lose it's face.

    The wikipedia article has a long list of extremely reliable sources, including UN reports, peer-reviewed large population surveys, reputable news agencies and papers etc etc.

    You can't argue against the fact that there's been hundreds of thousands of excess civilian deaths.

    Are the iraquis better off with a puppet gvt and broken infrastructure? i dunno

  • @Stoyakovick47 Dear Stoyakovick, I would just simply like to inform you that your opinions on this subject are contrived from a mind riddled with bias, propoganda and insufficient access to credible information. You are wrong Stoyakovick. The responsiblity solely rests on your shoulders to determine the span of time it requires for you to realize this.

  • We have enemies here that we need to be more concerned about. Teen sex, alcohlism, drug addiction, pedohpiles, MS-13 and other street gangs have brought terrorism to our country. Nothing is being done about these problems yet, people bitch, piss and moan about the war in Iraq. Yet they have no answers about how to solve the problem. Which of course, makes them look extremely foolish.

  • um, you CAUSED the problem. dumbass. and the reason why we can't solve those domestic problems you talk about is because all our resources are being shipped overseas to support your clever, precious little war.

  • Don't listen to these peace puppets, they have never been there so can't possibly deduce what it's really about. For those men and women that HAVE served, they have the right to speak out, they've earned it. For those who haven't, lock it up.

  • yes, the enduring single theme of the right wing: "you're free. trust us. now shut up."

  • As I said, time to close your ass now, you have bad breath.

  • what? bad breath? from my ass? and why are you so into talking about other men's open asses, mr. tough marine hetero guy?

    nope, none of us are going to shut up until we put an end to this goddamn waste of a useless war. sorry, but you're gonna have to let that one go. there's no use telling anyone to shut up. we're going to have our say.

  • thank you!!!!!!!!

  • 5 stars... im an iraqi and i say great vid i love america and american people but i also myself dont like the american govt. for what they did to the troops

  • 5 Stars. All I can say is thanks, and I am sorry.

    RP..08

    Free Hugs From TX

    RundoeTX

  • You heard it Veterans ...GW Bush said he is fully responsible for your injuries so that means the Veterans Administration bullshit healthcare and claims problems are his mistakes now. If any Veteran thinks he will fix the VA problems must be crazy.

  • How many more have to die so that the rich can have their paradise on Earth? And the best part of all is that those who support this forever wars are those who don't get anything from it, like poor StrokedGT... lost in his pariotic fairytale, thinking he will go to Heaven because he is, deep inside, a good boy who wants the best for his fellow human brothers. Indeed, it isn't a nation of cowards... it is a nation of naive children.

  • And the sad truth is that words of wisdom such as navtel's will only be understood by them who already had analog thoughts... and the mass, from wich StrokedGT is part of, will allways be blind to the obvious. Thank God America's holocaust is taking place so far away from me... because nothing is able to stop it anymore at this point... no heroes are going to save the World from this massacre.

  • It should be mandatory that presidents sons, daughters, nieces & nephews be enlisted in the armed forces if they are going to wage war, then maybe they'll think twice about it & deal with things the proper way. just a thought, may be a stupid one....so don't waste your time on it.

  • i would second that..

  • bush is a liar, deceiver, manipulator, draft dodger, destroyer of american constitution and most of all untrustworthy.. what will it take for the masses to open their eyes to the truth?

  • wow, what a nation of cowards...no one willing to die for their country anymore. did you ever think that most presidents served in wars. the same laws that apply to you apply to them, cant force their kids to enlist. thats called a draft. your complaining as if youd ever serving in the forces

  • FDR, teddy roosevelt, JFK, jimmy carter, bush sr., all served in the military. So I'm not sure what you're getting at. You really should expect the people in your government to serve if they're going to send others to fight and die for frivolous reasons. You should expect more from your government.

  • I don't think that being a former soldier is necessary to become president.

    Nor does being a retired REMF give you permission to send people to die because goddamnit the Chinese shouldn't be allowed to have all that oil.

  • So if ANYONE wants the full reason and facts for being in Iraq, just contact me. I used to be against the war until I did the proper research and also asked my cousin in the armed forces...

    PS: I've studied the war for 3 years now... You guys obviously just watch TV and internet blogs and listened to liberal media...

    I'm open to debate, i'll probrbly kick all your asses.

  • And you obviously just watch Fox News and listen to official reports by the military.

    Make sure to read both sides of any argument so you have a better understanding, don't just hoarde information to support your opinion. It's the only way to best understand what's going on.

  • and one more thing, Clinton dodged the draft, not Bush. get your facts straight, or at least know what your talking about

  • i think you better get your facts straight.. bush is a draft dodger and a lying scum bag. for you to defend this illegal war shows you are not too informed on the subject.

  • prove that he dodged the draft. he was in the military, clinton was not. i never defended the war, i just said your facts were wrong.

  • even dan rather couldn't prove that one, that's why he got canned. seems to me however there was much made of bush's awol in the national guard during the vietnam war.. you could be right however where there is smoke there is fire.

  • And how sir have you educated yourself? I have read 275 books on the subject myself and majored in history. I also served in the Marines for 4 years. Perhaps you are the one who needs to educate yourself.

  • it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

    -- Herman Goering

  • let's face it bush / cheney are liars.. henry kissenger is scum bucket.. they should all rot in hell..

  • great movie well done....may i download this video rosaryfilms???

  • gohoda, yes, thank you!

  • Invading Afghanistan and Iraq was a mistake. It was about oil and control, not the security of innocent people or part of the "war on terror".

    I respect the Veterans for Peace, who made this video - they are persecuted for their anti-war views, yet have seen and experienced first-hand the devastating consequences of combat.

  • how stupid are you?

  • One of my best friends is a Capt. in the National Guard and we have had many discussions about this and I thank you for taking the time to produce this video. This is the truth. I love my friend and the men and women who serve in the armed forces. I wish our leaders would listen and do what is in the best interest for them and our country.

  • birdog333, thank you very much for your comments and for watching!

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