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  • I watched Brad Harrub's "debate" with Jim Miller. Miller made Harrub look like a 5th grader. It was beautiful.

  • Actually, the evidence against evolution is astounding! Evolution is defended by mocking critiques, and coming up with excuses and just-so stories for failing theories. Creation Science is the best theory.

  • @TChapman500

    You may want to tell that to the Pope : the Vatican has accepted Evolution as a proven theory.

  • @kleykenb "You may want to tell that to the Pope : the Vatican has accepted Evolution as a proven theory." Whether or not a theory is accepted as proven is irrelevant if it turns out to be wrong. You are making an argument from authority. An authority that I do not recognize as being Christian, by the way. Even if I did recognize it, doesn't mean I would accept evolution just because they do.

  • @TChapman500 No need to appeal to authority, we have the entirety of the biological evidence supporting evolution.

  • @TheScienceFoundation I'm not the one making the appeal to authority. Kleybenb was by pointing out the fact that the Catholic church accepts evolution as fact, as if that should change my mind on the subject.

  • @TChapman500 Yes I realize that. I was merely pointing out that it's not the best route to go since all data also supports evolution.

  • @TheScienceFoundation "I was merely pointing out that it's not the best route to go since all data also supports evolution." No, all evidence supports Creation.

  • @TChapman500 No, creation is a useless unfalsifiable non-answer to which data can be contorted.  Evolution actually explains the data through testable mechanisms.

  • @TheScienceFoundation No, evolution is a useless unfalsifiable non-answer to which data can be contorted. Creation actually explains the data through testable methods.

  • @TChapman500 Now since you can't actually respond to what I've said, you're playing word games

    Evolution : Mutation, duplication, genetic drift, evo-devo, selection, etc.

    Creation : ?

    Go ahead and try to fill in the blank for us with a single testable mechanism.

  • @TheScienceFoundation "Now since you can't actually respond to what I've said, you're playing word games" No, I'm just stating the truth.

    "Go ahead and try to fill in the blank for us with a single testable mechanism." You reject everything out of hand that contradicts the central evolution dogma, even if it's not from a creationist.

    Irreducible complexity is tested by genetic knockouts. Remove any control gene and the system stops functioning.

  • @TChapman500 No, you're asserting ignorance, and you did so again here. Irreducible complexity is an argument from incredulity, even so it's been shown to be wrong in every instance it's been claimed.

  • @TheScienceFoundation Incredulity means "unwillingness to believe." It is synonymous with "skepticism." Skepticism is 100% scientific. So another way to put "argument from incredulity" is "argument from science." Look it up yourself! Equating it with ignorance commits the equivocation fallacy (aka: bait-and-switch).

    "even so it's been shown to be wrong in every instance it's been claimed." Name one!

  • @TChapman500 No, skepticism is non-acceptance of a position lacking evidence, incredulity in this case is willful ignorance of the actual data.

    'Name one!' The type three secretory system is comprised of a subset of components of the flagella, Dolphins lack the Hagemann factor in the vertebrate blood clotting cascade, there are numerous eyes which lack any combination of lens, pinhole, vitriol fluid.

  • @TChapman500 Oh hai! You said you were making a movie about me! When will you be finished? Will you announce to the world the first ever testable, repeatable method for verifying Creationism? You've got the scientific find of all time if you can announce that!

  • Would you like to know why? You promote creationism as a salvation matter. Then we grow up and learn the evidences for evolution and realize that creationism is something else. Then we are left confused, and often times we leave. In truth, the problem is because you put too much emphasis on creationism.

  • AWESOME!

    

  • Job 38:16 ''Have you entered the springs of the sea? or have you walked in the search of the depths? It was not discovered untill 1977, but there are apparently springs at the bottom of the sea.. Bible declares this thousands of years ago.

    Job 38:31 - ''Can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades, or loose the belt of Orion? Here God is asking Job about Orion & Pleiades, which are clusters.

    God bless you & family.

  • The bible also tells us of the ''4'' corners which are directional of course: North, South, East, West.

    Job 9:8, Isaiah 42:25, Jeremiah 51:15 & Zechariah 12:1 tells us that God & God alone stretches out the heavens. What does this mean? It means that the bible declares that the universe is actually stretching, its expanding. This now well known scientific fact was discovered by Edwin Hubble in 1929.

    Job 38:16 ''Have you entered the springs of the sea? or have you walked in the search...CONT

  • In the bible, Job 26:7 Tells us that He (God) hangs the earth on nothing. There is no visible force holding this planet up - Scientists know this today.

    Isaiah 4: 22 It is He (God) who sits above the circle of the earth & its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, & spreads them out like a tent to dwell in. - When seen from above this planet resembles a circle. The bible declares this many centuries before madern science. The bible also tells us ..CONT

  • This is not a new nature problem, in worlds .

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  • Although sad, it is true. Our children have an overload of information that comes from worldly sources and actiually believe little about God The Creator. They need to know why they have a belief in God and His Holy standards. A more internalized belief which would result in behaviors that would meet God's approval.

  • Although sad, it is true. Our children have an overload of information that comes from worldly sources and so little about God who created the world....

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