I was told that the easiest way to set your anti skate is to turn the anti-skate to zero when you initially balance your tonearm to zero. Then after you set the weight on your tonearm, you simply turn the anti-skate to the same amount as the weight.
An important addendum to this video is that the bias force present when playing a blank record is substantially different than when playing a groove - the stylus has one contact point, instead of two. Because of this, setting antiskate by this method will be off by roughly a factor of 40%.
A crude workaround which should improve accuracy is to set your VTF to sqrt(2)=141% of the normal VTF before setting antiskate. This may not work for aspherical styluses, though.
@rtollerton Just to make this clear (since I found sources which claim the opposite of each other): you say with the method described in the video you get a too low anti-skating setting?
What do you think of the common suggestion (like it is explained in the 1200 manual) to set the anti-skating value to the value of the VTF?
Setting antiskate has always been a skeet shoot. The "right" setting depends on the VTF, the vinyl formulation, the stylus profile, the modulation levels of the music.... it differs for every record and you're probably lucky to consistently get within 30% of what it's "supposed" to be. (For that matter, the technique I describe is woefully inadequate for hifi/aspherical cartridges.)
Given that, using the mfgr's recommendation is likely to be at least OK.
I have a pair of 1210MG5's thy're sweet! When adjusting Anti-Skate do you have the horizontal weight adjusment knob on the left side of the tonearm base screwed in all the way? The manual says for Dj use srew in all the way? Confused. One thing I did nitice is that if they are not perfectly balanced the tone arm will not move. Same thing if the horizontal weight adjusment is screwed in the tone arm movement becomes stiffer. Any suggestions?
someone was saying the antiskating is messed up on techs, actually, they are quite good although the force doesnt match up with the applied grams on the vinyl. They designed it to have a powerful pull at high mass.
if you have antiskating set on, then will the needle loose the groove and skate of the vinyl when you are backqueing!! The antiskip gives the tonarm a positive offset - away from the spindle. So, for the scratching set antiskting to "0"!
It should be noted, however, that some (but not all) turntables that use a servo-controlled tracking mechanism, such as the Sony Biotracer, adjusts both anti-skating and tracking weight under one dial and maintains that adjustment automatically and properly as long as the zero balance has been set.
Roughly, the anti-skating should be set at the same number that the tracking force is set at.
A grooveless disc is one useful tool for adjusting anti-skating.
Fine tuning will involve listening to a stereo record and applying the adjustment until the best audio quality is achieved.
Too low will result in left channel dominance. Too high will result in deterioration of audio quality. The best adjustment is about one notch below the deterioration threshold.
strange, I nver had these kind of problems with my 1210 MK2 I did not even know that Anti-Skating is such a problem!
mantramindware 5 months ago
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I was told that the easiest way to set your anti skate is to turn the anti-skate to zero when you initially balance your tonearm to zero. Then after you set the weight on your tonearm, you simply turn the anti-skate to the same amount as the weight.
kazywaz 5 months ago
there not 1200s u spack there 1210 mk5 gs u disabled arab
greena987 1 year ago
An important addendum to this video is that the bias force present when playing a blank record is substantially different than when playing a groove - the stylus has one contact point, instead of two. Because of this, setting antiskate by this method will be off by roughly a factor of 40%.
A crude workaround which should improve accuracy is to set your VTF to sqrt(2)=141% of the normal VTF before setting antiskate. This may not work for aspherical styluses, though.
rtollerton 2 years ago 3
@rtollerton Thank you!
HotelBloedel 2 years ago
@rtollerton Just to make this clear (since I found sources which claim the opposite of each other): you say with the method described in the video you get a too low anti-skating setting?
What do you think of the common suggestion (like it is explained in the 1200 manual) to set the anti-skating value to the value of the VTF?
HotelBloedel 2 years ago
Setting antiskate has always been a skeet shoot. The "right" setting depends on the VTF, the vinyl formulation, the stylus profile, the modulation levels of the music.... it differs for every record and you're probably lucky to consistently get within 30% of what it's "supposed" to be. (For that matter, the technique I describe is woefully inadequate for hifi/aspherical cartridges.)
Given that, using the mfgr's recommendation is likely to be at least OK.
rtollerton 2 years ago
I have a pair of 1210MG5's thy're sweet! When adjusting Anti-Skate do you have the horizontal weight adjusment knob on the left side of the tonearm base screwed in all the way? The manual says for Dj use srew in all the way? Confused. One thing I did nitice is that if they are not perfectly balanced the tone arm will not move. Same thing if the horizontal weight adjusment is screwed in the tone arm movement becomes stiffer. Any suggestions?
salcidob 2 years ago
TO TECHNICS 1210 M5G DEBILU
Maupa2006 2 years ago
Before you adjust anything on your TT, it must be perfectly balanced. Otherwise your never going to get it set right. Its pretty much common sense.
72twist 3 years ago
Do you need your arm correctly balanced first? On my 1200s even at 3 the needs goes to end of the record, albeit slower than when it was at 0.
crypticreign 3 years ago
wtf that was all wrong.........
DJNoizeUK 4 years ago
someone was saying the antiskating is messed up on techs, actually, they are quite good although the force doesnt match up with the applied grams on the vinyl. They designed it to have a powerful pull at high mass.
RadioKilla07 4 years ago
@shafiqmustafa
if you have antiskating set on, then will the needle loose the groove and skate of the vinyl when you are backqueing!! The antiskip gives the tonarm a positive offset - away from the spindle. So, for the scratching set antiskting to "0"!
djhose 4 years ago 3
that helped.
I think?
z1zato 4 years ago
When scratching, set the antiskate to "0"!!
djhose 4 years ago
why O when you skate
shafiqmustafa 4 years ago
It should be noted, however, that some (but not all) turntables that use a servo-controlled tracking mechanism, such as the Sony Biotracer, adjusts both anti-skating and tracking weight under one dial and maintains that adjustment automatically and properly as long as the zero balance has been set.
Intersonus903 4 years ago
Roughly, the anti-skating should be set at the same number that the tracking force is set at.
A grooveless disc is one useful tool for adjusting anti-skating.
Fine tuning will involve listening to a stereo record and applying the adjustment until the best audio quality is achieved.
Too low will result in left channel dominance. Too high will result in deterioration of audio quality. The best adjustment is about one notch below the deterioration threshold.
Intersonus903 4 years ago 4
what?
joonshik 4 years ago
I hope I pronounced your name correctly ellaskin!
djpsych 4 years ago