I'm 18 now, have had a Bear and Sons live bali for a few months now (can't remember model, but I believe one of Jeffs vids) The blade play started well but loosened a lot. I have another offbrand from a gunshow. again, loose play on that as well. I prefer the lighter, thinner one (non-Bear one) because the Bear just feels too thick for me. However it was nice to try to work on tricks with the bear first then the lighter one is easier. Don't mind the Bear just prefer the lighter one.
I know this video is old so is the Bear 4" black cast metal trainer still the best alternative to a 200$ knife? If so should I try for the real blade? Or is the trainer built better for some reason?? Also what are your thoughts on Bradley Kimura?? Though that's 90$ it could be a long term goal for me and I could use a 30$ bear to see if I'm going to stick with this...
why didnt you just remove the latch and knock out 2 birds with one stone and it might take a little weight off and you can just put a marking on the safety handle??
@FamouszKiller because I like the physical feel of the latch as a reffernce for the bite handle during much of my manipulation, I only like latchless balis for carry in a holster
i have a fury trainer. its good for noobs like me but it uses screws i think and the handles get loosened quite fast. nothing a hexscrew kit cant fix though. for only 12.50 its really worth it.
@smashandcrashbros tightness* tits are breats, i dont even wanna go to titness maybe its a breast-like consistnacy ot very breastlike. Tightness is the correct word. Grammar nazi strikes again =P
i got my trainer today from knifecenter, but i cant even flip it because the blade has this smallest bend and it causes it to get stuck in the handles -_-
@sportssox10 if you ever wore braces and have those terrible rubber bands on them then you can use those. thats what i used and it worked for my cheap trainer. hope that helped
@sportssox10 fucking anywhere!, walmart, sears, target, meiyer, lowes, kroger, dollar general, home depot, minards, ace hardware, dollar tree, any auto part store, hardware store, or just 90% of stores in general, lol how old are you 8?
if the link doesnt work please try going to smkw(dot)com they changed the name and just search up the bear trainer from there. Like this comment so others can see :]
@Mraznkid99 i'm 10 so i got a toy balisong. it has a latch so i'm pretty sure it works the same as a real one. i mean why use a latch if it's so hard to open you have to use two hands like an army multi purpose tool? it opens like the "butterfly" style but it's strong so you use 2 hands. when you're fighting you don't want the tool opening and have pliers (replaces the butterfly blade) clipping your butt. i know because my dad has one.
@DaStayPuftFluff Hey, they're entirely possible to open using your pinkie as you grip it closed, when you squeeze on it it loosens the latch and you can then move your little finger down.
I just recieved mine, but the only problem I am having is that the tang pin is on the large side, so the handles are dug into when the 'blade' is open
@ZNahum81208 hey , btw just to help you actually the trainer knifes like this one are legal in ALL countries but the ones with sharp edges ( non trainer ) are illegal in some countries so you can actually buy one.
i just ordered a trainer now i live in the uk if i could get my hands on a real one then i would but i cant find one so i got a bear and son trainer i hope im happy with it
@Allrounder121 yes i know there illegal but there's not much chance of the cops geeing me since i never leave the house with a knife so i don't mind if there illegal
@famiclone364 im pretty sure training ones are legal. if you want a real one i dont think you can get one unless you get a military ID or something like that
you could get a balicomb. there are two downfalls. they have pins that stop the handles from hittin to hard that can fall out but that can be glued in. and the handles will come very loose. but you just need to find a really small wrench to tighten it. im gettin such a wrench TOMMOROW AND ILL BE ABLE TO DO THE FOUR FLIPS AND COUNTING I NO AGAIN
the box looks like something a gun company would ship shotgun shells in, I don't have that box but I do have a box that ammo came in that looks like it would be similar size
@cutlerylover i told my mom to buy this and she thinks that $49.99 is too much money, but she doesnt really know what it is and i told her that the real things are more expensive and she tells me that i cant flip in the house because she thinks that its dangerous after i told her it has no edge, help me out here
Hey i am a bigginer balisong flipper do you think 1 Bear and son 114B is a good beggining knife for me i already ordered it and have it. To me in my opinion it is very good but i also bought a cheapo no brand trainer for thos more advanced tricks like ariel or helix.
the reason the T-bar is loose is so when you pull it you dont have to unlatch it and take the time to get stabed,butterflyknifes arnt toys,there weapons and there only for killing someone,no other use
@stickfigure42 haha your a fuckin hick retarded inbreed cunt,butterflyknifes are for killin,guns are for killin, you want a fuckin tool get a swiss army knife, if you want a toy get a fuckin xbox
damn it is bs these are illegal in my country.
Leprechraun 23 hours ago
Just use hot glue
guawumbo 3 days ago
So this one, or the Ronin? :)
MrFeed0 5 days ago
Goddammit its illegal in MA...I wish there was one I could buy in this godawful state.
BpenguinFire 1 week ago
So thoughts.
I'm 18 now, have had a Bear and Sons live bali for a few months now (can't remember model, but I believe one of Jeffs vids) The blade play started well but loosened a lot. I have another offbrand from a gunshow. again, loose play on that as well. I prefer the lighter, thinner one (non-Bear one) because the Bear just feels too thick for me. However it was nice to try to work on tricks with the bear first then the lighter one is easier. Don't mind the Bear just prefer the lighter one.
Spawn07O1 2 weeks ago
WOW, i'm very impressed, great vid, keep doing vids like this
nickberck22 3 weeks ago
hahahaha im 11 and i got a butterfly knife OWNED
xXNewSuprizeXx 3 weeks ago
no I'm in Canada and trainers r legal here but not real 1s
GmanAlde 3 weeks ago
Is this banned in Canada? Please reply as I would like to buy one. :)
lmBored01 4 weeks ago
@lmBored01canadaknives has a few for sale around $40 canadian
SupComRaiden2 2 weeks ago
@SupComRaiden2 Thank you very much kind sir!
lmBored01 2 weeks ago
I know this video is old so is the Bear 4" black cast metal trainer still the best alternative to a 200$ knife? If so should I try for the real blade? Or is the trainer built better for some reason?? Also what are your thoughts on Bradley Kimura?? Though that's 90$ it could be a long term goal for me and I could use a 30$ bear to see if I'm going to stick with this...
MegaKnightcrawler 1 month ago
Hey can u make a video on the balisong ronin gear 2011 version plz I just got one 3 months ago thx ; )
GmanAlde 1 month ago
@GmanAlde What if he doesn't have one...? Maybe YOU should review it, since you have it.
Hazar629 1 month ago
i recently got a balisong but there is too much play in the handles. how can i fix this situation the handles are just like the ones in the video
fullm3taldoc 1 month ago
thanks that helped alot
serialkilla128 1 month ago
@sportssox10 Its easy to find in the plumbing section of lowes or home depot
richiemx51 1 month ago
haha i like how the basic problem is being a teenager.
ekajwall 1 month ago 14
@ekajwall As it is with most things xD
MayThereBePivot 1 month ago
@ekajwall its not problem if your a Filipino 12 year olds have em.
dyanstywarriors 1 month ago
why didnt you just remove the latch and knock out 2 birds with one stone and it might take a little weight off and you can just put a marking on the safety handle??
FamouszKiller 1 month ago
@FamouszKiller because I like the physical feel of the latch as a reffernce for the bite handle during much of my manipulation, I only like latchless balis for carry in a holster
cutlerylover 1 month ago 3
i have a fury trainer. its good for noobs like me but it uses screws i think and the handles get loosened quite fast. nothing a hexscrew kit cant fix though. for only 12.50 its really worth it.
lilmanc14 1 month ago
what camera did u sure your eyes??
Taobaak0 1 month ago
so what do you think about a trainer as a kubaton?
oud25 2 months ago
@smashandcrashbros tightness* tits are breats, i dont even wanna go to titness maybe its a breast-like consistnacy ot very breastlike. Tightness is the correct word. Grammar nazi strikes again =P
Antb356 2 months ago
is this the bear and sons 114 btr?
firedragonboy9 2 months ago
ZOOM
leroystpierre 2 months ago
I have this balisong. I got it for 27.99.
7CamoSnake7 2 months ago
can someone give me the full url to find this exact model?
totalbrootal 2 months ago
instead of o rings, if u have a friend with braces ask for one of their rubber bands for their teeth. it works just fine in place of an o ring
holyman96 2 months ago
i just got a balisong I FEAL LIKE JEZUS
supermodel5011 2 months ago
@supermodel5011 LOL
MoneyLover3000 2 months ago
Can anyone tell me where you can get the O rings from? The latch is so irritating when it gets out of the way.
loloboi12 2 months ago
i got my trainer today from knifecenter, but i cant even flip it because the blade has this smallest bend and it causes it to get stuck in the handles -_-
loloboi12 2 months ago
@loloboi12 Never mind I straighten it out! It works good now and I love it! :D
loloboi12 2 months ago
Are training ones legal in california? (cali prohibits normal ones)
HyperblexMedia 2 months ago
@HyperblexMedia Yes. I live in California and ordered this exact trainer off of Ebay about a month ago, and had no issues.
Anonymous50310 2 months ago
i have a crap trainer and the srews came lose and i put super glue around the out side when it was at a good titness for fliping
smashandcrashbros 2 months ago
i bought mines for $5
777zackfair 2 months ago
@777zackfair did it broke?
MoneyLover3000 2 months ago
is this legal in canada?
AlexDGintowt 2 months ago
@AlexDGintowt My friends who live in Canada say "No".
DeputyFifey 2 months ago
@megamxng hahaha funny
Calibros1 2 months ago
important question: can these train bears to use balisongs?
rename12345 2 months ago
can it still stab things or is it that trainer that i cant stab?
datsunfairladyz 3 months ago
where can you get these o ring things
sportssox10 3 months ago 21
@sportssox10 home depot or other hardware stores
flarethehedgehog1 2 months ago
@sportssox10 you can just use a small rubberband and wrap it around the latch a few times you can also use a small rubberband for the latch gate
preston01100 2 months ago
@sportssox10 if you ever wore braces and have those terrible rubber bands on them then you can use those. thats what i used and it worked for my cheap trainer. hope that helped
dsa2308 1 month ago
@sportssox10 local hardware store. most places like lowes and home depot i know for a fact they sell them. just a matter of right size
TheUngodlyProduction 1 month ago
@sportssox10 Go to your local mall and buy some gauged earring O-rings from hot topic or something :]
Yupthatssupercoolbro 1 month ago
@sportssox10 you could try to get them at a hardware store
dude89415 1 month ago
@sportssox10 any hardware store.
eas26 1 month ago
@sportssox10 fucking anywhere!, walmart, sears, target, meiyer, lowes, kroger, dollar general, home depot, minards, ace hardware, dollar tree, any auto part store, hardware store, or just 90% of stores in general, lol how old are you 8?
COOLLILMEXICANAJ777 2 weeks ago
@sportssox10 mostly anywhere, Hardware stores, WalMart, Etc.
northstarprovids 1 week ago
*clears throat* Gentlemen...
megamanxg 3 months ago
I just taped the latch open on mine
anthcybo 3 months ago
I got the knife
WeAreBoredTV 3 months ago
skip to 2:25 4 wat u clik the link 4
joshthebrit123 3 months ago
could anyone tell me the exact sizes of the o rings?
please and thanks, don't wanna buy the wrong size and i dont have the knife yet so i cant like bring it with me and ask.
MagicksMage 3 months ago
I GOT ONE OF THESE
psychothechibi 3 months ago
MADE IN THE USA! its a miracle.
purejshots1 3 months ago
They don't sell butterfly knives on Ebay now, only spring assissted
DeliciousBrownieVids 3 months ago
i was wondering if i should get a makartia bali so if not email me plz
MegaUSA911 3 months ago
i got mine for $9.00 and its been perfect for three years.. win
swaggerspice 3 months ago
are any of your knives realy sharp instead of benchmade model 42 . Do you have any switch blades
TheReggie247 3 months ago
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if the link doesnt work please try going to smkw(dot)com they changed the name and just search up the bear trainer from there. Like this comment so others can see :]
omegadude255 3 months ago
dangit not allowed in ca and i am only 11..using a lego one...
Mraznkid99 3 months ago
@Mraznkid99 someone your age should NOT even have a knife def not a blade that locks, etc
cody196 3 months ago
@cody196 lol yep
Mraznkid99 3 months ago
@Mraznkid99 lol!
blackslay552 3 months ago
@Mraznkid99 You could get a comb. You can flip with it. But ut instead of a blade, theres a comb.
InuyashaandKagome129 3 months ago
@InuyashaandKagome129 true
Mraznkid99 3 months ago
@Mraznkid99 i'm 10 so i got a toy balisong. it has a latch so i'm pretty sure it works the same as a real one. i mean why use a latch if it's so hard to open you have to use two hands like an army multi purpose tool? it opens like the "butterfly" style but it's strong so you use 2 hands. when you're fighting you don't want the tool opening and have pliers (replaces the butterfly blade) clipping your butt. i know because my dad has one.
DaStayPuftFluff 3 months ago
@DaStayPuftFluff Hey, they're entirely possible to open using your pinkie as you grip it closed, when you squeeze on it it loosens the latch and you can then move your little finger down.
baneat 3 months ago
lol how the basic problem is being a teenager
ekajwall 4 months ago
when u get a chance can u post what the sizes of both o-rings are
1999dragonguy 4 months ago
I Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaant onnnneeeeeeeeeeee...
anyways the link doesn't work..
Jetgui22 4 months ago
@Jetgui22 it does -_-
MinecraftPIGbomb 4 months ago
@MinecraftPIGbomb It doesn't work for me.. every time I press the link this shows up:
Sorry We Have A Error: java.lang.NullPointerException
An error has occured while processing your request. This is the Stack Trace of the error:...
Jetgui22 4 months ago
@Jetgui22 I cant help you sorry! I need to see the thing before i know anything :P
MinecraftPIGbomb 4 months ago
@Jetgui22 or in google just type "bear and son cutlery balisong trainer"!!!!
MinecraftPIGbomb 4 months ago
My balisong is a cheap on and the don't work because when I turn it down and it open, you say in the video that I have hit that with a hummer ?
Aioria71 4 months ago
@nerfer998 under a 2 inch blade your fine
weWILLskate 4 months ago
I just recieved mine, but the only problem I am having is that the tang pin is on the large side, so the handles are dug into when the 'blade' is open
jwei444 4 months ago
me to i prefer a heavy knife compare to the lighter one
checkavailability175 4 months ago
are these illegal in WI caz i know it looks real but its not so im kinda stumped
viperfide 4 months ago
@Nerfer998 yes felony status :(
skunksurvival 4 months ago
Are balisongs illegal in California?
Nerfer998 4 months ago
the runawayemu: I Ohio u can't carry but u can own balisongs. so just enter take it anywhere with u
BENTBUTTERSTICK 4 months ago
I bought mines off EBay for like 27, and it should be here tomorrow.
jwei444 4 months ago 12
@jwei444 hey i orderd mine for the same price
lol
pokefan997 4 months ago
looks more like 5mm
billymayer1000 4 months ago
As far as I know, real balisongs are illegal in my state (ohio). What about trainers? are they illegal here? i cant seem to find anything on google
TheRunawayEmu 4 months ago
Are trainers illegal in Australia?
everythingsk8boardin 4 months ago
What was the size of your o-ring? And where can i acquire some?
KrzyUnit 4 months ago
what u could do is shaerpen that on a bench grinder XD
nedonfunnies 4 months ago
I live in Washington. It is illegal to own one.. ::cry::
ZNahum81208 4 months ago
@ZNahum81208 BUT! it's not a bladed knife, so technically your in the clear. unless ofcourse butternives are illegal aswell XD
EcksFacktur 4 months ago
@ZNahum81208 who cares? get one anyway
nedonfunnies 4 months ago
@ZNahum81208 hey , btw just to help you actually the trainer knifes like this one are legal in ALL countries but the ones with sharp edges ( non trainer ) are illegal in some countries so you can actually buy one.
einstein780 3 months ago
i just got mine and i love it and yes its legal in the UK WOOO
frostedlambs 4 months ago
Legal in the UK?
joeyXDface 4 months ago
@joeyXDface u cant get them frm were he got his,iv looked and can only find one site that sells them in uk its called 2sharp
bioniclemanboy 4 months ago
@bioniclemanboy link?
joeyXDface 4 months ago
@joeyXDface it wont let me but just type in 2sharp and click the 1st link
bioniclemanboy 4 months ago
@bioniclemanboy send it me in a private message, or spell it out with [dot] instead of the . in the URL
joeyXDface 4 months ago
@joeyXDface pm'ed u
bioniclemanboy 4 months ago
@joeyXDface yes i got mine today
frostedlambs 4 months ago
@frostedlambs link to the site please, I really want one =D
joeyXDface 4 months ago
ha benchmade 42 in future vids, ha
Poissonkarate 4 months ago
Just as a note i just got this knife in the mail last Thursday, they no longer come in that box. The come in a little blue box.
aDumbGorilla 4 months ago
i just ordered a trainer now i live in the uk if i could get my hands on a real one then i would but i cant find one so i got a bear and son trainer i hope im happy with it
frostedlambs 5 months ago
@frostedlambs Real Balisongs are illegal in the UK. Training Balisongs are not.
Allrounder121 5 months ago
@Allrounder121 yes i know there illegal but there's not much chance of the cops geeing me since i never leave the house with a knife so i don't mind if there illegal
frostedlambs 5 months ago
you have a dog?! (9:04, 9:07)
IMsuperDUPERable 5 months ago
@IMsuperDUPERable no shit sherlock lol
radgoodguy 4 months ago
i love the bear 5 in bali and its good for the price i use it alot
maul668 5 months ago
@famiclone364 butterfly combs :)
wafflecopter6 5 months ago 15
Are there ANY CA legal balisongs?
famiclone364 5 months ago
@famiclone364 im pretty sure training ones are legal. if you want a real one i dont think you can get one unless you get a military ID or something like that
SoftyChicken 5 months ago
@SoftyChicken well, the website he got it from doesn't ship to CA
famiclone364 5 months ago
Oh my god, so I can't buy one online and have it shipped to California?
MrASDFSkyler 5 months ago
@cutlerylover hi i have two questions one are these legal in california to carry and two can i sharpen the blade
wafflecopter6 5 months ago
@wafflecopter6
nope. they are restricted in California
porkersthewonderdog 5 months ago
i want one
MoneyLover3000 5 months ago
to my mom, if its not a swiss army knife or regular folder, its illegal >.>
WhyDontHobos 5 months ago
@WhyDontHobos dependding on where you live, that may very well be true.
trewqpoiuuy 5 months ago
This or the Ronin? i am about to buy one and i need to know!
PocketNinjaa 5 months ago
Gentlemen!
Eesti51 5 months ago
i also when to knife works i live in IL and when to tennese and got same knife
ps3onlineallnight 5 months ago
im 13 and i have 3 butterfly knifes
ps3onlineallnight 5 months ago
@ps3onlineallnight I'm 10 and what is this?
Airsoft101guy 5 months ago
@ps3onlineallnight may i have 1?
DuckMySickLOL 5 months ago
My parents wont let me get the pen because its a "dangerous weapon"!!! Stupid parents....
MinecraftPIGbomb 5 months ago
@MinecraftPIGbomb lol uh then get your friends parents to buy it for you then pay him back... i'm running out of ideas.
MilkweedTheif 5 months ago
@MilkweedTheif nevermind, They're gonna get me one...eventually!
MinecraftPIGbomb 5 months ago
@MinecraftPIGbomb And thanks for all the ideas!
MinecraftPIGbomb 5 months ago
His pot weight thingy...
Underdawgification 5 months ago
so this or the ronin trainer?
MilkweedTheif 5 months ago
Do you have a dog?
Wiiguyface343 5 months ago
know you a swiss site who i can order balisongs?
MrTheFati 5 months ago
@MrTheFati Blade Ops
MinecraftPIGbomb 5 months ago
Thumbs up for TF 2
pinguinulzburator 5 months ago
@pinguinulzburator get a life
traceradam 5 months ago
@traceradam HEY!! I play that game...
GabeB101 5 months ago
@pinguinulzburator shut up comment stealing whore
TheMgStudios 5 months ago
@TheMgStudios HEY!! TF2 FTW!
MinecraftPIGbomb 5 months ago
27 Teenagers cut themselves with this knife.
Superfire49 5 months ago
you could get a balicomb. there are two downfalls. they have pins that stop the handles from hittin to hard that can fall out but that can be glued in. and the handles will come very loose. but you just need to find a really small wrench to tighten it. im gettin such a wrench TOMMOROW AND ILL BE ABLE TO DO THE FOUR FLIPS AND COUNTING I NO AGAIN
chuggaachoochoo1 5 months ago
how do you fix the "blade play" if its a little too loose.
nickchiang001 5 months ago
i got one of these... heavy and very loose after use... not so good.. not recomended..
JmpRpe97 5 months ago
Is this legal in California?
famiclone364 5 months ago
if you want a balisong, then just buy a bali comb and then buy the blade online and replace the comb with the blade =p
iElitePig 5 months ago
i have the Damascus one and aside from the tangs being a little wobbly is a great knife
Rook9696 5 months ago
I have that one and its pretty good
RockLover1337 5 months ago
the box looks like something a gun company would ship shotgun shells in, I don't have that box but I do have a box that ammo came in that looks like it would be similar size
vglgvn534912 5 months ago
is that scale for weighing weed? o.O
MajorlyBlunted 5 months ago 33
@MajorlyBlunted yup thats why jeff is always so mello haha
Cflore001 5 months ago
@MajorlyBlunted ur an idiot... no scale made for it . thats just what they get used for.
802x 5 months ago
@MajorlyBlunted
I noted the O-rings, Magnifier, and scale all as stoner stuff lol
baysk8r420 5 months ago
@MajorlyBlunted Maybe he likes to weigh precious gems.... Thats what I always tell police....
metzger90 4 months ago
@metzger90 5 gram rocks for example?
DurzzToxin 4 months ago
@cutlerylover i told my mom to buy this and she thinks that $49.99 is too much money, but she doesnt really know what it is and i told her that the real things are more expensive and she tells me that i cant flip in the house because she thinks that its dangerous after i told her it has no edge, help me out here
iceman7157 6 months ago
I have the same version of that but mines not a trainer and it's only4 inches but my latch is just fine and it works great
zippoguy101 6 months ago
4:56 hahah he made a funny :)
ShhNahTerFauter 6 months ago
Hoow long have you had this? Please respond!!!
Commintor 6 months ago
Hey i am a bigginer balisong flipper do you think 1 Bear and son 114B is a good beggining knife for me i already ordered it and have it. To me in my opinion it is very good but i also bought a cheapo no brand trainer for thos more advanced tricks like ariel or helix.
yoyofun07 6 months ago
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4:36 OMG I CAN SEE ALL THE DETAIL!! :o
vultwaz 6 months ago
i got mine at smoky moiuntai knife works to but i got mine int hes store
crazayghost 6 months ago
RONIN GEAR VS BEAR & SON? I need replies.
lKamilia 6 months ago
is it metal handles?
MrEltoropoopoo 6 months ago
the reason the T-bar is loose is so when you pull it you dont have to unlatch it and take the time to get stabed,butterflyknifes arnt toys,there weapons and there only for killing someone,no other use
5822391 6 months ago
@5822391 If you think that, you're an idiot.
stickfigure42 6 months ago
@stickfigure42 haha your a fuckin hick retarded inbreed cunt,butterflyknifes are for killin,guns are for killin, you want a fuckin tool get a swiss army knife, if you want a toy get a fuckin xbox
5822391 6 months ago
@5822391 killing or defense...
bluenerve 6 months ago
well im in that situation my parents cant say me what to do anymore, i've got the money to spend but my law wont let me have one :(
oo0TheUnforgiven0oo 6 months ago
i have a better way to get one yes my parents wont let me have one but i know ppl Asian ppl
petetheplane1 6 months ago
want to send me that knife?
YellowboyhighStreet 6 months ago
thanks men u have realy halp me
TheTimor321 7 months ago
thx for the o-ring tip -worked great for me and is definitley better then regular tape
dakinegk 7 months ago