@shaioliver I believe you will find that research supports what I said, even if they used a support his hands weren't on supports and it would have torn through the flesh, he was nailed through the wrists and ankles. I know its hard hearing the truth when "artist" and "charletons" have guided us in the wrong direction for so long. Look at it this way, he was definetty crucified and he rose from the dead, isn't that the important thing?
The only problem with this stigmata is it doesn't correspond with the true crucifixion wounds. Jesus was nailed through the ankles not the tops of his feet and through his wrists. I am sorry because it would be nice to believe this, and I seek to figure it out, but new research coming from the shroud of turin tells a different story as well as skeletal remains found in the Holy land shows people with nails through the ankle and heel bones because the weight of the body
its god good friday was the day jesus died i think and shes like father pio cause same thing happened to him!god bless you enominepatri etfilii expirituseanktus!latin for name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit!
I would love to see the subconscience grow a set of horns then. Show me a record of any one who has made wounds appear on their body and then close them up with their mind. You're ridiculous. Jesus said pick up your cross and follow me. Some people's cross is bigger than others because they love God more. This stigmata could be demonic, but I doubt it because of how she is living, and the witness she is giving to Christ. A good tree produces good fruit. She belongs to the mystical body of Christ
i wish people would stop debating about whether this is 'real' or not....this is a reminder to all of us that we need to keep in 'touch' with what's important, and what that is lies INSIDE all of us....NOT in a building only meant for the selfish 'clergy' to be worshiped in. The answers are INSIDE OF US....people really need to get back in touch with their own godly mind so they can start to 'remember' what the real truth is....here's a clue, God doesn't live inside a CHURCH
@itstime4change13 well, I'm sorry to tell you that this phenomena only happened when the Easter of the Catholic and Orthodox churches were on the same day... both churches use "selfish clergy" and buildings. and where did Jesus preach as well? oh yeah, in Synagogues... where was the Holy of Holies? in a building, the Temple.... so if you're not Christian, this is useless with you, but if you are, know that the Catholic and Orthodox churches' sacraments are a reflection of the OT of God!
Whether this is miraculous or inflicted subconsciously it isn't bullsh*it,or faked! Surely this woman has been studied enough times for her to have been 'outed' as a fake! And to suggest as someone has,that the music tracking this clip proves it's a fake is almost laughable! Maybe stigmatics are simply mentally ill,but the mind is a most powerful medium so maybe she is mentally inflicting these wounds on herself. You've still got to feel for the poor woman.
Anyone who has ever read the bible knows that the nails did not go through the palms of the hands, but through the wrists. This is bullshit. These wounds are too small to be stigmata. They seem to be self inflicted. I hate religious freaks, especially the christians.
@darkozzy123 now if you were a bit as open minded as the "freaks" you're bitching about, you would know that the wounds were studied, they are NOT self inflicted because they open from the inside, and that the guy just said they open and close in front of him... This woman toured the world and never accepted money, she was studied by thousands of doctors, one of which is my aunt... so quit your bs!!
I don't have a problem believing this can happen. The question is, "what meaning does one assign to it?"
I assign the meaning that her subconcsious has become overly-identified with the crucifixion aspect of Christianity. Nothing more, nothing less. The body can manifest anything (and "un-manifest" or heal it spontaneously as well) if the subconscious has come to a particular conglomerate of assumptions.
@ramura001 yes, but the body cannot manifest the smell of roses when on the hands there are marks of rotten flesh as in the case of Padre Pio, nor can the brain and body manifest a stench when there are no wounds apparent, but only pain in those areas. plus, if you actually know the whole story, Mirna was not AT ALL a fervent Christian, she was one of those "meh, I believe, but that's it" people! and like Padre Pio said (the most famous stigmatist after Saint Francis) :"
@ramura001 I want you to go meditate on the horns of a goat, and come back when you get horns on your head"... which means, stop trying to explain everything in science... how come this only happens to the Christians... how come buddhists don't grow lumps of extra hands meditating on their god(s)??
God can very well use suggestion for the things we call miracles. They're miracles to us because we cannot fully explain them physically, but that doesn't mean a mechanism doesn't necessarily exist. That, however, doesn't restrict God from also breaking any type of physical laws...I think the real importance is one's closeness to God, of which this would not be an isolated event, after all they needed to be very suggested (faithful, pious etc) for this to happen.
@shaioliver I really don't want to get into a p*5sing match here, as it has been a long time since I made those comments and I can see that many people completely misconstrued what I was saying. But to you, there is much "scientific" evidence on record that show yogis, for example, having this level of control over their physical body. Also, people with multiple personalities can have diabetes in one personality and not in another. Those sorts of examples. Yes, wounds can heal..
@ramura001 .I have no hateful intentions toward you.I agree about the Yogis and control over senses.Yes a man;s pure nature can allow him to do amazing things.The fact still remains the highly acclaimed Doctor didn't understand and you have the answer? Also tell me if a persons subconscious as you put it becomes overtly identified with for instance superman will the person be able to fly???
@srtliam SHE WASN'T A FERVENT BELIEVER!! stop making claims!! she wasn't that much of a Christian before all this happened!! and there were instances where the "messages she got" told her of things about other people she couldn't have ever possibly known!!!
@EnergyOM yes I do have the answer for it. the oil from her hands was tested in Germany, France, and Syria, and was found to be 100% pure olive oil. Even olives don't give 100% pure olive oil. the wound in her head was filmed opening and bleeding by itself, look for it on youtube (Mirna Nazzour Stigmata, or Soufanieh)... thousands of miracles have been attributed to her, many happened in my family, my aunt, who is a doctor, studied her as well, so yes, I have the answer, nobody was "bought".
@6MemoryOfForever9 This doesn't answer the question how much does it cost to buy physicians mouth :)
Maybe she really got these bleedings...maybe a demon scratched her...maybe the "testers" were also believers...maybe not, your words are no proof...by the way i never denied it got be real, but to me it's definitly not what it is to a christian. Jesus never got crucified.
@EnergyOM a demon? if you all read about the whole story first., you might actually be informed enough to makde judgement.. read what the messages were, read about all the tests done on her, by christian, muslim, and atheist doctors...some were there just to prove her wrong, they couldn't. as for what you think it is to be a Christian, stating that Jesus never got crucified, I see we have to leave that to some other debate..
A demon, a djinn, a reptilian, whatever. i think stigmatas can occur, but that has nothing to do with a wonder or what so ever. And it is definitly no proof that the unholy church is on the side of humanity. We can left the other debate beside.
@EnergyOM I think stigmatas are real and not fake, but does it mean the Bible is right? Of course not, but Christians would like to beLIEve that, one can get people to bleed and burn and whatnot under hypnosis too.
@ZeroEightySix I think stigmatas can occur...but i don't think the stigmatas have anything to do with the bible, christianity or any other religion...
@EnergyOM When Christians have near death experience, they see and meet Jesus or other figures they recognize, the Muslims see Mohammad and so on ... that has to do with ones beLIEve systems I feel.
When I die, I'll meet my idol, Mickey Mouse, and he'll say to me in his squeeky voice "HI KID" ;)
@ZeroEightySix Yep, it has to do with their realitytunnel. You will meet that satanic mouse^^ ok that's your choice ;) Maybe you will meet SuperGrobie, too....*UpaUpaUpa*
thumbs down. deceptive as hell, even the stupidly manipulative music in the background is a giveaway. This will help fill the coffers of the churches.
This has been debunked by simply applying some mix of chemicals which is colorless. All you have to do is close and open your hand and wholla its blood. I wished I could remember which video showed that cheap trick so I could post it. There is no God just the laws of physics which you can learn about and do all kinds of tricks to fool others into believing you got special powers. Knowledge is power and power often corrupts. That girl is a fraud and attention seeker.
I'm not saying there isn't anything like this out there, i'm simply saying that almost everytime, if NOT everytime you see something like this, the footage is after the wounds have already occured, and they aren't bleeding anymore. Nothing more then dry blood over a wound. Yes i'm sure it'd be hard to get footage of it happening when you wouldn't know when it happens, but the fact is that SOMEONE would have footage by now if it was real.
@AyKay47 Although that's true... think about the person that is experiencing the "miracle." (I, myself, have mixed feelings about this) But do you think that the person that has these wounds wants people to live with her 24\7 just waiting for her to be in pain so that they can document it?
@GrimmBeauty Seems like she doesn't mind having them on her, also, if she was faking i'm sure she wouldn't care lol, which is what i'm SURE she's doing. Her facial expressions are just too fake and the cuts can VERY simply be achieved through makeup jobs. She seems to let them film her when she's having the pain, so what does she care?
@6MemoryOfForever9 All i'm getting at is if we are to be tricked to believing this is real it wouldn't be hard. Considering Hollywood makes even more brutal horror films. You aren't there watching this and actually experiencing it. All i'm saying is for the REAL God, please don't believe in this bullshit. This isn't proof of God or anything like that. This is trickery. God doesn't need tricks like this to make someone believe....believe me ^_^
@AyKay47 I have people in my family who saw her live, not on camera... so for me I have all the proof I need... the tests, the reliable eyewitnesses (reliable to me, since I know them), the medical testimonies...
@6MemoryOfForever9 You can believe whatever you want to ^_^ i'm not trying to sway you one way or the other, i'm just preaching what I know to be fallacy as just that. God has no need for such clever shows of power. I think any Christian would contest just that. Even though I can't call myself a Christian, I don't believe this is the work of God. Our Creator has no need to show us things like this. In my opinion this isn't even close to a miracle ^_^ that's all I have to say
@AyKay47 true, but Jesus did say "if you don't believe my words, believe the signs"!! :D anyway, if you already believe in God, than it doesn't matter if you believe this or not! :D
@6MemoryOfForever9 That's very true, he did say believe the signs. I just don't think this is a sign if you can understand what i'm saying. It was said that we will KNOW when God comes, even amongst all the tricksters, God's coming will be one that no one will be able to deny as it being God instead of false Christs and false deities. This to me is just the work of evil people who make a mockery of the creator, or actual work of Lucifer morning star himself...maybe i'm nuts ^_^
@hapibth0pel3ss she isn't submitted to controlled observation, if the wounds occur by themselves there has to be a cause that physically makes the wounds open, air is insufficient.
@hapibth0pel3ss they don't ever show the wounds just happen magically, they simply show video of the wounds after they've occured...it's rather a logical thing to assume that the reason we don't see the wounds form as if through some religious way, is that they are self inflicted. Again I can't stress the fact that the video only shows the wounds after they've occured.
@AyKay47 Yes, they may only have videos and pictures of the wounds after they've occured... but can you think of the burden it would be to have to follow her around and have to invade in her life just to wait for something like this to happen?
@GrimmBeauty Do you think that's EVER stopped someone from getting 100% real footage? Anyone who is interested in documenting such phenomenon would surely take the time to capture it, or at LEAST have a camera ready and switch it on as the wounds "magically" occur. The fact that NO ONE has footage of the wounds actually happening from nowhere, after so many years of this documented "miracle" someone would have the footage.
@AyKay47 burden or not don't you think that if this was real the fact that it happens would be more of a burden then someone actually capturing footage of it?? that's ridiculous to say trying to catch footage of it happening would be a burden of any kind compared to the pain of the actual stigmata that this women would go through every time it happens.
"The fool hath said in his heart there is no God"
psalmsurfer1 1 month ago
God or the devil - they both only exist in the imaginations of brainwashed christians.
masala505 2 months ago
Ignorant peasants will beleive almost anything you tell them. If you take thus stuff seriously then you really need to get an education.
masala505 2 months ago
@shaioliver I believe you will find that research supports what I said, even if they used a support his hands weren't on supports and it would have torn through the flesh, he was nailed through the wrists and ankles. I know its hard hearing the truth when "artist" and "charletons" have guided us in the wrong direction for so long. Look at it this way, he was definetty crucified and he rose from the dead, isn't that the important thing?
bkatayab 2 months ago
The only problem with this stigmata is it doesn't correspond with the true crucifixion wounds. Jesus was nailed through the ankles not the tops of his feet and through his wrists. I am sorry because it would be nice to believe this, and I seek to figure it out, but new research coming from the shroud of turin tells a different story as well as skeletal remains found in the Holy land shows people with nails through the ankle and heel bones because the weight of the body
bkatayab 3 months ago
@bkatayab wrong not necessary if the feet were supported.
shaioliver 2 months ago
Yehh Right. !! There is no God. Live is hard , and than you die
FreeCanna 8 months ago
its god good friday was the day jesus died i think and shes like father pio cause same thing happened to him!god bless you enominepatri etfilii expirituseanktus!latin for name of the father and of the son and of the holy spirit!
genli1 1 year ago
I would love to see the subconscience grow a set of horns then. Show me a record of any one who has made wounds appear on their body and then close them up with their mind. You're ridiculous. Jesus said pick up your cross and follow me. Some people's cross is bigger than others because they love God more. This stigmata could be demonic, but I doubt it because of how she is living, and the witness she is giving to Christ. A good tree produces good fruit. She belongs to the mystical body of Christ
icimblind 1 year ago
@icimblind hahaha, the Padre Pio quote? :D I''m using it too :D God Bless!
6MemoryOfForever9 10 months ago
i wish people would stop debating about whether this is 'real' or not....this is a reminder to all of us that we need to keep in 'touch' with what's important, and what that is lies INSIDE all of us....NOT in a building only meant for the selfish 'clergy' to be worshiped in. The answers are INSIDE OF US....people really need to get back in touch with their own godly mind so they can start to 'remember' what the real truth is....here's a clue, God doesn't live inside a CHURCH
itstime4change13 1 year ago
@itstime4change13 well, I'm sorry to tell you that this phenomena only happened when the Easter of the Catholic and Orthodox churches were on the same day... both churches use "selfish clergy" and buildings. and where did Jesus preach as well? oh yeah, in Synagogues... where was the Holy of Holies? in a building, the Temple.... so if you're not Christian, this is useless with you, but if you are, know that the Catholic and Orthodox churches' sacraments are a reflection of the OT of God!
6MemoryOfForever9 10 months ago
Whether this is miraculous or inflicted subconsciously it isn't bullsh*it,or faked! Surely this woman has been studied enough times for her to have been 'outed' as a fake! And to suggest as someone has,that the music tracking this clip proves it's a fake is almost laughable! Maybe stigmatics are simply mentally ill,but the mind is a most powerful medium so maybe she is mentally inflicting these wounds on herself. You've still got to feel for the poor woman.
popazz1 1 year ago
Anyone who has ever read the bible knows that the nails did not go through the palms of the hands, but through the wrists. This is bullshit. These wounds are too small to be stigmata. They seem to be self inflicted. I hate religious freaks, especially the christians.
darkozzy123 1 year ago
@darkozzy123 now if you were a bit as open minded as the "freaks" you're bitching about, you would know that the wounds were studied, they are NOT self inflicted because they open from the inside, and that the guy just said they open and close in front of him... This woman toured the world and never accepted money, she was studied by thousands of doctors, one of which is my aunt... so quit your bs!!
6MemoryOfForever9 10 months ago
I don't have a problem believing this can happen. The question is, "what meaning does one assign to it?"
I assign the meaning that her subconcsious has become overly-identified with the crucifixion aspect of Christianity. Nothing more, nothing less. The body can manifest anything (and "un-manifest" or heal it spontaneously as well) if the subconscious has come to a particular conglomerate of assumptions.
ramura001 1 year ago 2
@ramura001 Right, any explanation will do as long as its not God. Engaging in radical skepticism is scientific, its just silly.
AegeanKing 1 year ago
@ramura001 yes, but the body cannot manifest the smell of roses when on the hands there are marks of rotten flesh as in the case of Padre Pio, nor can the brain and body manifest a stench when there are no wounds apparent, but only pain in those areas. plus, if you actually know the whole story, Mirna was not AT ALL a fervent Christian, she was one of those "meh, I believe, but that's it" people! and like Padre Pio said (the most famous stigmatist after Saint Francis) :"
6MemoryOfForever9 10 months ago
@ramura001 I want you to go meditate on the horns of a goat, and come back when you get horns on your head"... which means, stop trying to explain everything in science... how come this only happens to the Christians... how come buddhists don't grow lumps of extra hands meditating on their god(s)??
6MemoryOfForever9 10 months ago
God can very well use suggestion for the things we call miracles. They're miracles to us because we cannot fully explain them physically, but that doesn't mean a mechanism doesn't necessarily exist. That, however, doesn't restrict God from also breaking any type of physical laws...I think the real importance is one's closeness to God, of which this would not be an isolated event, after all they needed to be very suggested (faithful, pious etc) for this to happen.
cuantumk 10 months ago 2
@ramura001 Plz back these bold statements with facts, sub conscious can heal normal wounds in a few hours that they disappear without a trace???
shaioliver 2 months ago
@shaioliver I really don't want to get into a p*5sing match here, as it has been a long time since I made those comments and I can see that many people completely misconstrued what I was saying. But to you, there is much "scientific" evidence on record that show yogis, for example, having this level of control over their physical body. Also, people with multiple personalities can have diabetes in one personality and not in another. Those sorts of examples. Yes, wounds can heal..
ramura001 2 months ago
@ramura001 .I have no hateful intentions toward you.I agree about the Yogis and control over senses.Yes a man;s pure nature can allow him to do amazing things.The fact still remains the highly acclaimed Doctor didn't understand and you have the answer? Also tell me if a persons subconscious as you put it becomes overtly identified with for instance superman will the person be able to fly???
shaioliver 2 months ago
believe hard enough and it will manifest.
biblical scholar? that seems like a contradiction in terms.
you'd think we'd be done with institutionalized religions by now.
FAIL.
srtliam 1 year ago
@srtliam SHE WASN'T A FERVENT BELIEVER!! stop making claims!! she wasn't that much of a Christian before all this happened!! and there were instances where the "messages she got" told her of things about other people she couldn't have ever possibly known!!!
6MemoryOfForever9 10 months ago
How much does it cost to buy the mouth of a Physician?
EnergyOM 1 year ago
@EnergyOM you mean thousands and thousands of international physicians, doctors, etc...
6MemoryOfForever9 10 months ago
@6MemoryOfForever9 Doesn't matter how many....and i know you don't have the answer to it.
EnergyOM 10 months ago
@EnergyOM yes I do have the answer for it. the oil from her hands was tested in Germany, France, and Syria, and was found to be 100% pure olive oil. Even olives don't give 100% pure olive oil. the wound in her head was filmed opening and bleeding by itself, look for it on youtube (Mirna Nazzour Stigmata, or Soufanieh)... thousands of miracles have been attributed to her, many happened in my family, my aunt, who is a doctor, studied her as well, so yes, I have the answer, nobody was "bought".
6MemoryOfForever9 10 months ago
@6MemoryOfForever9 This doesn't answer the question how much does it cost to buy physicians mouth :)
Maybe she really got these bleedings...maybe a demon scratched her...maybe the "testers" were also believers...maybe not, your words are no proof...by the way i never denied it got be real, but to me it's definitly not what it is to a christian. Jesus never got crucified.
EnergyOM 10 months ago
@EnergyOM a demon? if you all read about the whole story first., you might actually be informed enough to makde judgement.. read what the messages were, read about all the tests done on her, by christian, muslim, and atheist doctors...some were there just to prove her wrong, they couldn't. as for what you think it is to be a Christian, stating that Jesus never got crucified, I see we have to leave that to some other debate..
6MemoryOfForever9 10 months ago
A demon, a djinn, a reptilian, whatever. i think stigmatas can occur, but that has nothing to do with a wonder or what so ever. And it is definitly no proof that the unholy church is on the side of humanity. We can left the other debate beside.
EnergyOM 10 months ago
@EnergyOM Get out of the satanic cult,
shaioliver 2 months ago 2
@shaioliver Stop getting on my nerves, or you will feel my ZORN!
EnergyOM 2 months ago
@EnergyOM I think stigmatas are real and not fake, but does it mean the Bible is right? Of course not, but Christians would like to beLIEve that, one can get people to bleed and burn and whatnot under hypnosis too.
ZeroEightySix 10 months ago
@ZeroEightySix I think stigmatas can occur...but i don't think the stigmatas have anything to do with the bible, christianity or any other religion...
EnergyOM 10 months ago
@EnergyOM When Christians have near death experience, they see and meet Jesus or other figures they recognize, the Muslims see Mohammad and so on ... that has to do with ones beLIEve systems I feel.
When I die, I'll meet my idol, Mickey Mouse, and he'll say to me in his squeeky voice "HI KID" ;)
ZeroEightySix 10 months ago
@ZeroEightySix Yep, it has to do with their realitytunnel. You will meet that satanic mouse^^ ok that's your choice ;) Maybe you will meet SuperGrobie, too....*UpaUpaUpa*
EnergyOM 10 months ago
@ZeroEightySix Actually Muslims report seeing Jesus (the prophet) as well. Jews see angels. There was a Donahue show on it about 20 years ago
MarkCox73 10 months ago
@ZeroEightySix This is near death to you,the doctor is hallucinating,RIGHT???
shaioliver 2 months ago
Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
DaLilRocker 1 year ago
Surrounded by the cult of man made religion and iconography, the pain of it all.
Wheres the joy and love in it all?
Fraud.
MrSaidso 1 year ago
Gay
LumpySpunk 1 year ago
tell her to stop cutting herself
SupaBionicSonic 1 year ago
thumbs down. deceptive as hell, even the stupidly manipulative music in the background is a giveaway. This will help fill the coffers of the churches.
OzKnosis 1 year ago
one word - bullshit
MrGlasgowtruther 1 year ago
This has been debunked by simply applying some mix of chemicals which is colorless. All you have to do is close and open your hand and wholla its blood. I wished I could remember which video showed that cheap trick so I could post it. There is no God just the laws of physics which you can learn about and do all kinds of tricks to fool others into believing you got special powers. Knowledge is power and power often corrupts. That girl is a fraud and attention seeker.
mon2nika 1 year ago
@mon2nika I'm sure you and your "youtube video" are smarter than the thousands of doctors who studied her!
6MemoryOfForever9 10 months ago
I'm not saying there isn't anything like this out there, i'm simply saying that almost everytime, if NOT everytime you see something like this, the footage is after the wounds have already occured, and they aren't bleeding anymore. Nothing more then dry blood over a wound. Yes i'm sure it'd be hard to get footage of it happening when you wouldn't know when it happens, but the fact is that SOMEONE would have footage by now if it was real.
AyKay47 1 year ago
@AyKay47 Although that's true... think about the person that is experiencing the "miracle." (I, myself, have mixed feelings about this) But do you think that the person that has these wounds wants people to live with her 24\7 just waiting for her to be in pain so that they can document it?
GrimmBeauty 1 year ago
@GrimmBeauty Seems like she doesn't mind having them on her, also, if she was faking i'm sure she wouldn't care lol, which is what i'm SURE she's doing. Her facial expressions are just too fake and the cuts can VERY simply be achieved through makeup jobs. She seems to let them film her when she's having the pain, so what does she care?
AyKay47 1 year ago
@AyKay47 there is another footage of her on youtube with the head wound opening and bleeding in front of the camera!!
6MemoryOfForever9 10 months ago
@6MemoryOfForever9 All i'm getting at is if we are to be tricked to believing this is real it wouldn't be hard. Considering Hollywood makes even more brutal horror films. You aren't there watching this and actually experiencing it. All i'm saying is for the REAL God, please don't believe in this bullshit. This isn't proof of God or anything like that. This is trickery. God doesn't need tricks like this to make someone believe....believe me ^_^
AyKay47 10 months ago
@AyKay47 I have people in my family who saw her live, not on camera... so for me I have all the proof I need... the tests, the reliable eyewitnesses (reliable to me, since I know them), the medical testimonies...
6MemoryOfForever9 10 months ago
@6MemoryOfForever9 You can believe whatever you want to ^_^ i'm not trying to sway you one way or the other, i'm just preaching what I know to be fallacy as just that. God has no need for such clever shows of power. I think any Christian would contest just that. Even though I can't call myself a Christian, I don't believe this is the work of God. Our Creator has no need to show us things like this. In my opinion this isn't even close to a miracle ^_^ that's all I have to say
AyKay47 10 months ago
@AyKay47 true, but Jesus did say "if you don't believe my words, believe the signs"!! :D anyway, if you already believe in God, than it doesn't matter if you believe this or not! :D
6MemoryOfForever9 10 months ago
@6MemoryOfForever9 That's very true, he did say believe the signs. I just don't think this is a sign if you can understand what i'm saying. It was said that we will KNOW when God comes, even amongst all the tricksters, God's coming will be one that no one will be able to deny as it being God instead of false Christs and false deities. This to me is just the work of evil people who make a mockery of the creator, or actual work of Lucifer morning star himself...maybe i'm nuts ^_^
AyKay47 10 months ago
a good reason to cut your nails, so you don't scratch yourself, especially when you're delusional ^^
GronTheMighty 1 year ago
@GronTheMighty shes not delusional
hapibth0pel3ss 1 year ago
@hapibth0pel3ss
Of course she isn't.. hurting yourself to get attention is completely unheard of - nobody has ever done that at all :)
GronTheMighty 1 year ago
@GronTheMighty how can you say shes hurting herself when shes in front of the camera and people are watching?
hapibth0pel3ss 1 year ago
@hapibth0pel3ss she isn't submitted to controlled observation, if the wounds occur by themselves there has to be a cause that physically makes the wounds open, air is insufficient.
GronTheMighty 1 year ago
@hapibth0pel3ss they don't ever show the wounds just happen magically, they simply show video of the wounds after they've occured...it's rather a logical thing to assume that the reason we don't see the wounds form as if through some religious way, is that they are self inflicted. Again I can't stress the fact that the video only shows the wounds after they've occured.
AyKay47 1 year ago
@AyKay47 Yes, they may only have videos and pictures of the wounds after they've occured... but can you think of the burden it would be to have to follow her around and have to invade in her life just to wait for something like this to happen?
GrimmBeauty 1 year ago
@GrimmBeauty Do you think that's EVER stopped someone from getting 100% real footage? Anyone who is interested in documenting such phenomenon would surely take the time to capture it, or at LEAST have a camera ready and switch it on as the wounds "magically" occur. The fact that NO ONE has footage of the wounds actually happening from nowhere, after so many years of this documented "miracle" someone would have the footage.
AyKay47 1 year ago
@AyKay47 burden or not don't you think that if this was real the fact that it happens would be more of a burden then someone actually capturing footage of it?? that's ridiculous to say trying to catch footage of it happening would be a burden of any kind compared to the pain of the actual stigmata that this women would go through every time it happens.
AyKay47 1 year ago
I saw this video before
wo0dymispk 1 year ago