Gun Policy at Starbucks Means NGAC Boycott?

[darrellhood25]

S.O.A rulz brother

[UrbanArmed]

Right on bro. New sub.

[ogctom]

i would honestly rather be shot to death than beaten to death. the gun is a tool not a motive.

[saladfork8]

Everyone with some lame agenda uses Boycotting Starbucks as their means to make their point. Just herd some christian preacher wingnut say he wants a boycott on them for some reason or another and get this he thinks his "people" are 80% of Starbucks business HAAHAAHAAAHA not even close jacktard, more like 6% if he's lucky. There are some realy messed up minds out there anymore. I drink my own coffee at home but thank you Starbucks for standing up for the American people and our constitution!

[holdernessman]

saw this vid really like ur channel. subbing

[BoydMort]

Gun crime here is rare but has been on the increase lately, knife crime has become a much bigger problem alongside the use of dogs.

If someone broke into my flat and i subdued them the police would take me away for assault.

The home office stats pages are not working so can't get an exact figure for the last year but 50 is about average. Chalk up four more as of christmas.

[CaptainBerz]

@BoydMort I understand they report differently now on murders since they enacted the laws, vs before they did. Always skewing data..

[BoydMort]

@CaptainBerz

Precisely, the way in which crime has been recorded over the past ten years has changed as noted by a spokesperson from the Home Office in this article from a few years back.

w.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/­law-and-order/6438601/Gun-crim­e-doubles-in-a-decade.html

Essentially making it impossible to compare and gleam accurate data.

Reading the data from the Home Office gave me a headache in the end. =/

[Mummster12]

il give the ngac something to complain about

[CaptainBerz]

@Mummster12 lol

[CmdrSoCal]

Reaper crew = satanic troll.

[CaptainBerz]

@CmdrSoCal 666 Baby!

[iowndunoob]

Great vid

[89ludeman]

Here is another this to concider. England's population is about 50 million and the United states is a little over 310 million.

[CaptainBerz]

@89ludeman What do you mean?

[89ludeman]

@CaptainBerz The United states hae 6 times as many people. I do not think that gun crime/homicieds will go down. The people who obay the law are not the issue it is the criminals. Basically all England did was disarmed their civilians. You dont need a gun to kill a person.

[CaptainBerz]

@89ludeman Correct, England has about 50 murders due to firearms each year, so he multiplied them to get to 375. Murders are many things, including suicide and self defense, which make up many of the murders in the USA. It is a tricky discussion with many statistics.

[Survivalvideos1]

Berz you look super tired, nice video dude.

[CaptainBerz]

@Survivalvideos1 lol, yea sometimes I do not sleep much...

[barney1515ful]

murders did not go down any in england when they ban guns they just used clubs knifes ext.

[CaptainBerz]

@barney1515ful Yup, people should look at those facts, but they don't..

[BALJIT147]

I emailed starbucks and I got a reply from them. Basically they said they will continue to do what the law says and that the pro gun and anti gun people should argue amongst ourselves. Thats paraphrasing of course but they will do what the law says.

[CaptainBerz]

@BALJIT147 Yup, which is a the best "it is not us" defense...

[koconcept]

That's funny to me cause I go to starbucks everymorning before work specifically because they have a welcome policy to legal chl. Guess I need to start buying 2 cups lol.

[CaptainBerz]

@koconcept lol

[redtony58]

We don't want people in our stores who are black, I mean jewish, I mean carry guns, I mean vote for Ron Paul, I mean, oh hell, you know what I mean, THOSE people.

[1TacticalMedic]

Love how people skew the numbers. 

[CaptainBerz]

@1TacticalMedic Eh, it is normal now a days...

[PrimeConsciousness]

Everyone should know that starbucks making a rule about guns in their store totally dissuades someone from shooting the shit out of the place. Makes perfect sense...

[MrAk47master]

They're all happy, they're like weee! Hilarious.

[CaptainBerz]

@MrAk47master Weeeee!

[Mrprotectionone]

I too have been asked to leave from 2 Starbucks in different states for carrying.

[CaptainBerz]

@Mrprotectionone I fully support the companies right, although if it is legal in that state you could check with their corporate office and mention they are not following corporate code, as long as it is not privatly owned...

[Mrprotectionone]

@CaptainBerz

So do I. In both states I was well within the law. In KY it is an OC state not to mention I have a CCDW permit there and am a licensed CCDW instructor for KY. In Indiana where I live I have a permit/FFL,and am covered under LEOSA being a reserve LEO. It was just the managers opinion that people shouldnt carry firearms period not to mention in his store. I made a formal complaint to their corporate HQ and got an apology letter and some cupons for free coffee,lol.

[CaptainBerz]

@Mrprotectionone Did you walk back in and say "kiss my ass, my whole ass!"...lol

[Mrprotectionone]

@CaptainBerz

No probably should've though! This just happened not too long ago. A few of the people its happened to are talking about suing them now. We'll see how that goes. If I were a manager or owner of an establishment I would welcome law abiding citizens who carry! It just makes things safer for all. I guess they dont look at it like that though.

[Mrprotectionone]

Gret video! I love the disclaimer paragraph!!! Do you mind if I use that disclaimer? Just found the channel and watched a few of your vids. I will be subscribing! Keep up the good work!

[CaptainBerz]

@Mrprotectionone Free to use....

[Mrprotectionone]

@CaptainBerz

I appreciate it.

[surviveANDthrive1]

Agreed on all points!

[tatman8509]

Great video! I think my ancestors that left England in the 1700's would turn in their graves if we adopted England's policy on firearms. I'm so sick and tired of these people that want to take away everyone else's right to do something just because they don't agree with it. Fucking Liberal Douchebag Socialists! Keep spreading the word and keeping us informed! Thanks again for sharing man.

[TheHossUSMC]

damn haters

[CaptainBerz]

@TheHossUSMC Bitch Ass Fraidycats!

[micktheprepper]

One thing about that girl who's gun went off in the starbucks... she was sixteen yrs old and her father gave her the gun... she was carrying ILLEGALLY! I always stress that it is not the people who abide by the law and have a CCW permit ... it is the criminals who are the problem... out of those 12000 deaths how many were by a lawful citizen that took the time to register the firearm or get a CCW?...I would say very few!

[1958trickyricky]

guns in pockets or purses should have holster that covers trigger guard 4 safty

[CaptainBerz]

@1958trickyricky That is good advise

[swatcapt11]

I love to most people think that each starbucks can ban them but in fact they cant becasue it is a corp so all store have to follow corp policy

[CaptainBerz]

@swatcapt11 Starbucks as a company can ban, yup. Each store, unless privately owned cannot perse..

[swatcapt11]

the only number i have ever seen about homiced rate of ccw holder is out of all the ccw hold is less then .000001% cant find the source but it was something like that

[Figure14HH]

Back in 1997 all hand guns were banned here in the UK by our polatitions saying now that ALL LEGALLY OWNED handguns were confiscated there would be-

NO MORE HANDGUN CRIME IN THE UNTIED KINGDOM

Well they forgot to tell the scumbag gang members and thieves who had illegal handguns , and the handgun crime has not changed one bit even though there must have been tens thousands of handguns taken in and destroyed .

Don`t ever try to copy the UK , that is like shooting yourself in the foot .

[CaptainBerz]

@Figure14HH Agreed

[drainocleanser]

All the anti rights advocates are British blowing. Why can't they see they can have all that, they just need to pack up their shit and leave on a plane. The sooner the better. A matter of fact allot of shitty Americans have already permanently made the moved to England and our government doesn't even give a shit. We don't even care to keep track of them and England isn't complaining but in America it's quite opposite for Brits which i find rather pleasurable. Brits can keep their politics

[glynn72]

I don't want to be like England.  I want to be free.

[CaptainBerz]

@glynn72 Agreed, great thought

[mersk100]

It's probably a good idea for Starbucks, anyone stupid enough to pay $4 for a $0.40 cup of coffee has the potential of not doing the right thing.

Boycott them if you've been going, your wallet will thank you.

[CaptainBerz]

@mersk100 Well, I like the taste of certain things. And I am free to do with my money as I wish. My taste buds thank me...lol

[mersk100]

@CaptainBerz Hehe, ok then

[zombiekillerjordan]

If all the anti gun people love englands guns laws then why the hell dont they move to england....if we had england gun laws then this would no long be America.

[RoflmaoAtSheepeople]

yea berz their funnly that way kick some back side. For 6 bucks a coffiee bud its never ending.

[MrGreatshot]

Love the yeee sound effect

[CaptainBerz]

@MrGreatshot Yeeeee! lmao

[RisArms]

NGAC Needs to shove it sideways up their ass. Even if their 12000 number were right, and its not, every year, people in the United States use guns to defend themselves against

criminals an estimated 2,500,000 times. Almost 500,000 times a year guns are used to deter a home invation. So on numbers alone, many more times are they used for the good. The info source for this is The Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology...

[CaptainBerz]

@RisArms Yes, I want to know specifics as well. Good point. How many of those murders were in self defense? How many were suicides, which someone would just use something else anyhow....Many it is just the culture of america and not the fact that murders are happening...

[dogsnammo]

Three facts

1. Criminals don't go to Starbucks because they prefer to be the one doing the robbery.

2. More people in the US died of suicides than homocides in 2011.

3. The National Geospatial Advisory Committee (NGAC) is a Federal Advisory Committee sponsored by the Department of the Interior under the Federal Advisory Committee Act. They need to come up with an original acronym that ones taken

[daddyoca69]

I seen signs in starbucks before that banned guns they didn't put just open or not... also costco has them around here and chucky cheese and many others... boycotting is just crying.. if you dont like the policy then go somewhere else.

boycotting is not going to change anything..

and they do it for liability and from what I have seen living in Cali they quickly did it when the open carry deal first started. I think one group was meeting at on in the Bay Area

[CaptainBerz]

@daddyoca69 I agree with boycotting, that is a way to persuade a company or anything. But, I do not see the reason when the clearly said they follow legislation..

[daddyoca69]

@CaptainBerz because I some do ban it and had nothing to do with law.. it happened when oc protests started in ca

[master5775]

ortality

All homicides

Number of deaths: 18,361

Deaths per 100,000 population: 6.1

Cause of death rank: 15

Firearm homicides

Number of deaths: 12,632

Deaths per 100,000 population: 4.2

source: cdc website

[CaptainBerz]

@master5775 That is data from 2007, the rate has decreased dramatically..

[spiros5]

So who is the goofball who disliked? Commie, socialist? Move to russia, iran or china, hell north korea if you dont like it here.

[laddjm]

Just makes me want to have a coffee with my 1911 on my hip.

[docsimonson]

We aren't granted our rights. They are ours due to our humanity. Our Government is supposed to protect those rights. They can never grant a right. They can take a right away with due process.

[CaptainBerz]

@docsimonson Right

[steev5x5]

Berz smack down ! good vid sir, great points. British statistics are irrelevant here. keep on ~ keep'n on.

[SuperRedseven]

I dont like starbucks, but the wife and I will be having a cup on Valentines Day both CCW.

[CaptainBerz]

@SuperRedseven I don't mind starbucks every so often. Usually my lady goes in there and I get confused and just say, "um, yea whatever she is getting"...lol

[hakjason]

Great video!!

[CaptainBerz]

@hakjason Thanks

[themeleed]

here in Wisconsin CC just passed but they're allowing stores to put up "no weapons" signs letting stores limit constitutional rights. Starbucks is one of the few stores that won't have these signs. P.S. I like the sound you made at 4:29.

[SuperRedseven]

@themeleed As far as stores putting up signs, It's their property and their right. Same as it's your money that you dont have to give them. Congrats on getting that carry bill through, dont forget to support Walker.

[CaptainBerz]

@themeleed It is a private property right to limit someone and discriminate if wanted. Going into someones store is the same as going into someones house, if you don't want people bringing something then you can say no, as a store.

[jerseydevildog]

Good Job, thanks for posting

[Razlo5000]

Boycott a major coffee shop?

LOL, have fun. The lines will only stretch out the door instead of around the block like they usually do.

Way to put up the counter argument there Berz.

Nullify these nit wit's messages of surrendering our freedom & rights.

[CaptainBerz]

@Razlo5000 Well, they are really playing against the companies freedom as well.

[1TacticalMedic]

Hi I would like a Cafe Latte Venti, with an extra espresso shot. Also would you happen to have any Breakfree for the Glock!

[CaptainBerz]

@1TacticalMedic Now that is a concept...lol

[1TacticalMedic]

@CaptainBerz Hell ya, just get your coffee, a nice biscotti, and just bust out the cleaning kit and clean yo shit! Bet everyone would feel safe!

[deepwater1974]

Figures this scumbag would be from Chicago. Here is part of his story.

On the morning of December 31, 2006, the Chicago police came to Elliot’s door to tell him his son, Michael Fineman, had been murdered by a stranger, while dining in a San Diego restaurant with his wife.

What this fucking scumbag should do is work on getting our men and women home from fighting these bullshit wars.

[CaptainBerz]

@deepwater1974 Some people are afraid of guns, I understand that. But it is a right of mine and any US citizen so they should not try and change that, imo.

[cutlerylover]

Thanks for the response

[CaptainBerz]

@cutlerylover Anytime, I found the topic very interesting.