He married a fresh faced schoolgirl, he was done with the overly sophisticated temptress type.
Maxim is keeping a big secret from his new wife and she is interpreting his distance as not being able to compete his ex-wife for his affection. She feels she does not measure up to the late Rebecca in looks or sophistication.
But as you learn later in the film the truth is more complicated than this.
idk, i think she could just suck it up and learn to be confident and boss the servants around like they want her to. her husband seems to assume she is completely capable of being the mistress of the house.
How come Joan's voice here isn't husky yet unlike in her later movies. But certainly she knows how to deliver well the lines. Olivier is also fine but sometimes he delivers his line as if he's hurrying.
Anyone else notice how he asked her not to wear black satin and pearls earlier in the movie? And now she's in black silk and pearls.....tsk, tsk, tsk, nameless narrator
I have to say, I think Crawley has a point about what's more important in - well, not just in women, but in all humans - kindness, sincerity, and modesty (I'd through in humility there too). Though I do admit placing a pretty high value on intelligence.
Can you believe all that fuss about that damn statue!!! Mrs. Danvers looked like she wanted to have her thrown in the cellar and beaten later with a bull whip!!!
if you look at his actions towrads her from the start, (the film from their honeymoon) they seem sweet and loving. It's only when he gets back to Manderlay, then he get darker. The looming shadows of the past still haunt, and the reminder of rebecca is everywhere. Laughing at him from beyond the grave. He kept her as a companion because she blotted out the past for him, but upon their return, he found that could never be.....
It's sad how she will torment herself and put up with constant anxiety just to stay with someone she believes to be in love with. It's those sort of things that start nervous break downs.
wOW THIS TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP IS LIKE ABUSIVE WOMEN... They see two nice things about the guy and make up a whole beautiful relationship while they blame themselves for everything.... The heart is treachorous; who can know it?
@Eternity29 only because we're seeing things from the Narrator's point of view, if you look at his actions, particularly at the start, he's simply beastly to his new bride!
why would any woman marry a nasty moody man lol when he told her to get out of the car in the first part I would have left and never seen him again. he makes her cry and she stays. Joan has such classic looks
if you guys want to know why the author made her without a name, cause they say that the second wife lived in the shadow of rebecca,,, no worries i dont understand either
Damn that shit is crazy how she keeps seein the "R" on those towel things. That is bound to make someone go crazy. Excllent cast. One of the greatest plots ever!!! And that Joan Fontaine might just be the most beautiful actress ever in a Hitchcock movie. Hitchcock women were by far the finest actresses of any director who ever casted a movie.
@Brideshead09 I misunderstood what you wrote. I thought you were asking me if I had read the book. People left comments on page 3 and 4 about not knowing the second Mrs. de Winter's name so I left a comment letting people know it's never known. I'm sure people would be "better advised" to read the book, but, I try not to advise people unless they ask me for it.
@hjb103055 I have never read Rebecca, but I have watched the movie again and again. Have you ever watched Jane Eyre? Have you ever watched Wurthering Heights? Wuthering Heights stars Sir Laurence and Merle Oberon. I must watch. Thank you for watching the old movies.
@vodka4everandalways I watched Wuthering Heights again but, youtube keeps taking Jane Eyre off. Now Voyager with Bette Davis was put up again about a month ago watch it now before youtube finds it. Part 1 - Now, Voyager (1942). The Ghost and Mrs Muir was put up again 2 months. Find it here Part 1 - The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (1947). Go to blinkx.com. You're going to be shocked, but, the movie shuts down after 72 min. and you came back in 54. You can deal with that. It also has Gone With The Wind.
oh,what gorgeous is the movie ,i didn`t expected to be that way ,I just discover the book a few days ago ,and now I`m reading it ,and I begin to think that is one of my favorites ,movie and book. The actors are the best ,she is so sweet and young and he is very handsome.Wish I would live on those days where love and respet value much more .
Poor Mrs. De Winter! She wanted Max to be stunned and shocked! Like that wolf cartoon... But stupid Max "Oh yes you look lovely" after all those questions! Whats wrong with you, Max?! She is getting all dressed up all sexy for you! And what do you do? You just dont care... Men!
She's far worse in the book. I find Joan Fontaine as Mrs De. Winter in the movie very endearing and likable. Her shyness and naivety is cute. In the book she's far more pathetic.
Her behavior is one of the points of the film--a "nobody" who is put into the situation of becoming a "great lady." Her circumstances are also complicated by the fact that the man she married is hiding a LOT about his former wife, and gets endless hints about how fabulous she was. Joan Fontaine is merely playing the role as it was written in the screenplay, and she's playing it VERY well (she was nominated for an Oscar for this role, and would win it the next year for "Suspicion").
actually, you never find out her name. it's symbolic, she's supposed to be overshadowed bu Rebecca.
also just want to say i think it's sad so many people don't seem to like her. I think reading the book you get a better point of her perspective. She is shy and scared, and well, yes is seemingly young, that's how du Maurier wanted to portray her. she does get more mature as the story progresses.
@jjbeadle1 No, you're wrong. You are thinking of the part when she dresses up as one of the pictures in the gallery for the fancy dress ball, and gets the drummer to introduce her as "Mrs Caroline de Winter". In actual fact she was DRESSING UP AS Mrs Caroline de Winter - one of Maxim's relatives. If you paid attention to the book you would have realised that.
she didn't have a name because she was living in Rebecca's shadow. she's the main character and the narrarator, and the book isn't even named after her. i kinda like that.
No her name is deliberately not mentioned at all in the book. Joan Fontaine was Olivia de Haviland's (Melanie Wilkes in Gone With the Wind) sister - they couldn't stand each other.
@xforcedsilencex Joan Fontaine...who was the sister of Olivia de Haviland...who was in "Gone with the Wind"...which starred Viven Leigh...who was married to Laurence Olivier...Freaky!! That's a pre-Kevin Bacon six degrees thing happening right there
@xforcedsilencex Joan Fontaine is beautiful isn't she? She was wonderful in the 1943 version of Jane Eyre too. And generally brilliant in everything, haha.
the book is a good read even if the beginning is kind of boring...but to understand the novel is to understand the beginnning!! great movie and book!!
i love it when Maxim sticks his tongue out, it looked like he was have a great time, lol it is so funny and it felt like he wasnt acting. jsut being himself ... lol funny
The thing about this movie is that every single character actor is just top-drawer. They are hollywood of the 40's and they make this movie such a pleasure and absolutely a step above so many others.
The new Mrs de Winter is a non-person, poor girl. Notice no one (servants not included), not even her husband, calls her by her first name except darling, my dear.
It adds to the discovery of her own identity. Throughout the movie she keeps trying to be like the late Mrs. DeWinter, however it isn't until the end that she finally finds herself.
The book the movie is based on is written in the first person, from Mrs. DeWinter's point of view, so her name is never given, which is why in the movie she only referred to as pet names.
But, yes, good point. I think there may be another reason, it does give you the impression that she is a non-entity. Maybe this is to highten the contrast of the influential shadow of "Rebecca". It also accentuates the drama of her growth and development as an individual character/person.
But if we should really talk about Hitchcock's genius at directing, then we must take notice that he used the same suspense technique twice in the same movie and both worked perfectly well--even better the second time round!... I'm talking about the heroine's attempt to woo Maxim by the dress she's wearing (the second being the great suspenseful scene where she walks down the stairs for the ball)... Pure genius I tell you!...
Doesn't she also wear a black dress and pearls by the end of the film?... So in essence, Maxim also killed the second Mrs. De Winter--he mentioned that she wasn't the sweet, innocent girl he once first met--she's become a woman and has begun taking charge...
I just looked again to make sure, and It was a gray. However, it isn't a woman taking charge of things that he fears, it is Mrs. DeWinter becoming Rebecca that he fears. She grew up, which is what she needed to do to find her identity (a huge theme in the film). She is still herself, but matured...and she is finally happy. The fact that they are happy together and there is no longer a shadow of a lie between them is more than enough to make up for Mrs. DeWinter 'growing up'. =)
@Richard Hannay: You could her wearing black and pearls as doing what she wants, despite what Maxim told her he wanted her to be, no? See it very differently.
Hitchcock is such a genius! I love how high on the doors the doorknobs are: it makes "the 2nd Mrs. DeWinter" look so small and vulnerable, like a child reaching up for a doorknob.
seriously, maxim needs a sharp kick on his hinny. he has put his wife in an untenable position and expects her to just deal with it. the man needs an analyst!
No doubt! I think he's weak. He is looking for a wife-replacement who doesn't threaten or challenge the idolization and obsession over his first wife's memory. Someone whom he can control and finds pleasing, but is easily controlled, submissive and who does not compete with the impression of Rebecca.
Thank you. I was saying the same thing before I read your comment. He should have taken care of himself with a team of analysts before he threw himself into another relationship/marriage.
Well it definitely was valuable to him and if he thought it a treasure, then so be it. Maybe there's a story to it, now we don't know for sure what it means to him do we? If it wasn't important he wouldn't have gone through all the trouble. Besides, I don't think they made big deal of it. What caused the drama was Mrs. Danvers accusin poor Robert. And thanks for answering my question in the other video :)
dochiaz: Far more men believe that than do not; then again, far more men have taste class and values, all attributes which seem to have eluded you. And purity can never be "overrated."
You see, that`s the problem with a lot of people when they try to argue. They assume certain things they shouldn`t about the other (like that of me being a man:P and of lacking certain attributes) and they inevitably fall back on that old trick of argumentum ad hominem. I said purity is overated because I believe it is the result of an insecure man`s thinkiing, who can`t cope with the fact that the woman he loves could be more )or less) that the ideal he envisioned.
What a cute little cocker. Thank goodness Rebecca didn't have the dog monogrammed, we already see too much of that silly R. Even poor old Crawley is still taken with Rebecca, abd she surely teased him all the time because that's the kind of person she was. Poor Crawley! But he's wrong she was afraid of dying in pain. Rebecca's nothing but propaganda and hearsay, but the young Mrs. de Winter believes it all an thinks herself unworthy, which is simply not true.
ok, girls, we got it- Laurence Olivier is sexy. Anything else?
missCairo015 3 weeks ago 2
Poor girl she tries to look good, a new dress and hairstyle, and Maxim can't even say anything nice
maremerson88 4 weeks ago 2
@maremerson88
He married a fresh faced schoolgirl, he was done with the overly sophisticated temptress type.
Maxim is keeping a big secret from his new wife and she is interpreting his distance as not being able to compete his ex-wife for his affection. She feels she does not measure up to the late Rebecca in looks or sophistication.
But as you learn later in the film the truth is more complicated than this.
ContrastY 5 days ago
He's insane, she's insane, they're all insane and it's sort of obnoxious.
SisterToSleepx 1 month ago
Maxim is an asshole. I'd have treated that girl fine!
trustfund82 1 month ago
i dont like this version. the 1979 version with jeremy brett is much better and truer to the book!
AlliyaandRaza 2 months ago
idk, i think she could just suck it up and learn to be confident and boss the servants around like they want her to. her husband seems to assume she is completely capable of being the mistress of the house.
mern9 3 months ago
OMG Maxim treats her like a child and not at all how a gentleman should treat his wife. Book Maxim wasn't such an ass.
Mai2727 3 months ago
this is one of the memorable film of all times! thanks again!
cheers!
LeRoi715 4 months ago 5
Cat to the streets
kristjunja3003 4 months ago
@43v3rmusical because of maxim's face? lol or what she said?
BillyAndDeclanFan 4 months ago
what are the differences of the film and book?
BillyAndDeclanFan 4 months ago
See the hatred laughing at me but there's nothing funny
theusername9606 5 months ago
How come Joan's voice here isn't husky yet unlike in her later movies. But certainly she knows how to deliver well the lines. Olivier is also fine but sometimes he delivers his line as if he's hurrying.
CYNLAGASCA 6 months ago
What's with the goofy face at 6:00? LOL
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Anyone else notice how he asked her not to wear black satin and pearls earlier in the movie? And now she's in black silk and pearls.....tsk, tsk, tsk, nameless narrator
readtoomuch 7 months ago
oh, poor girl :(
EXthesweetlamb 7 months ago
really love her cheek!!! very beautiful!
zenith0000006 8 months ago
I have to say, I think Crawley has a point about what's more important in - well, not just in women, but in all humans - kindness, sincerity, and modesty (I'd through in humility there too). Though I do admit placing a pretty high value on intelligence.
MissMortViolette 9 months ago
When's someone going to get frantic and get slapped across the face?
vagtasticone 9 months ago
Can you believe all that fuss about that damn statue!!! Mrs. Danvers looked like she wanted to have her thrown in the cellar and beaten later with a bull whip!!!
scorpioninblue 10 months ago
I'm so glad this movie is really loyal to the book:)
TheLexanatorOfficial 10 months ago 6
if you look at his actions towrads her from the start, (the film from their honeymoon) they seem sweet and loving. It's only when he gets back to Manderlay, then he get darker. The looming shadows of the past still haunt, and the reminder of rebecca is everywhere. Laughing at him from beyond the grave. He kept her as a companion because she blotted out the past for him, but upon their return, he found that could never be.....
MrShaun42088 10 months ago 2
its getting creepy now :S
poob4633 11 months ago
It's sad how she will torment herself and put up with constant anxiety just to stay with someone she believes to be in love with. It's those sort of things that start nervous break downs.
Jadama0 11 months ago 3
8:45= scary!
asmileisspecial 1 year ago
Don't be such a little idiot darling.
You're nice, Maxim! And don't undermine her in front of evil Danvers!
LOL 'Yes all right, thank you Mrs. Danvers.' Someone got dismissed!
asmileisspecial 1 year ago 6
'What was Rebecca really like?'
Frank should say what we're all thinking: 'A bit of a slag!'
asmileisspecial 1 year ago 7
@asmileisspecial LOL
Trund27 11 months ago
we are terribley Happy!
hahahah..
meberimora 1 year ago
BAHAHAHAHA, MRS DANVERS GOT PWNED!!!!!
Mrs Danvers: perhaps if such a thing happens again, Mrs de Winter will tell me personally...
Maxim: YESYES ALRIGHT THANK YOU MRS DANVERS!
twilightharhar 1 year ago 3
No one beats Rebecca-nobody!
TheLaughinAssassin 1 year ago
wOW THIS TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP IS LIKE ABUSIVE WOMEN... They see two nice things about the guy and make up a whole beautiful relationship while they blame themselves for everything.... The heart is treachorous; who can know it?
Tranquila95 1 year ago
@Tranquila95 To be fair, Maxim seems like much less of a dick in the book.
Eternity29 1 year ago 4
@Eternity29 only because we're seeing things from the Narrator's point of view, if you look at his actions, particularly at the start, he's simply beastly to his new bride!
livelikejackandsally 1 year ago
why would any woman marry a nasty moody man lol when he told her to get out of the car in the first part I would have left and never seen him again. he makes her cry and she stays. Joan has such classic looks
ednuk 1 year ago
she looks exactly like grace kelly at 8:08
katsbyandco 1 year ago
if you guys want to know why the author made her without a name, cause they say that the second wife lived in the shadow of rebecca,,, no worries i dont understand either
oONicoMifsudOo 1 year ago
The second wife name it unknown the writer made it that way
cherie310 1 year ago
The book is better but the movie is good to
kamfresh10 1 year ago
annoying R
ChildOfTheFlower 1 year ago
thanks for the upload. I have always wanted to see this movie
guitarlawyer75 1 year ago
Rebecca. Movie >>>>>>>>book. The movie is much better.
SamLuvsTheFunny13 1 year ago
Damn that shit is crazy how she keeps seein the "R" on those towel things. That is bound to make someone go crazy. Excllent cast. One of the greatest plots ever!!! And that Joan Fontaine might just be the most beautiful actress ever in a Hitchcock movie. Hitchcock women were by far the finest actresses of any director who ever casted a movie.
oneindachamber 1 year ago
The novel never tells you the name of the 2nd Mrs. de Winter. Google Rebecca and read wikipedia.
hjb103055 1 year ago
@hjb103055 Or... read the novel?
Brideshead09 1 year ago
@Brideshead09 I read Rebecca about 40 years ago.
hjb103055 1 year ago
@hjb103055 I'm sure; my suggestion was more aimed at "Google Rebecca and read wikipedia". Would people not be better advised simply to read the book?
Brideshead09 1 year ago
@Brideshead09 I misunderstood what you wrote. I thought you were asking me if I had read the book. People left comments on page 3 and 4 about not knowing the second Mrs. de Winter's name so I left a comment letting people know it's never known. I'm sure people would be "better advised" to read the book, but, I try not to advise people unless they ask me for it.
hjb103055 1 year ago
@hjb103055 I have never read Rebecca, but I have watched the movie again and again. Have you ever watched Jane Eyre? Have you ever watched Wurthering Heights? Wuthering Heights stars Sir Laurence and Merle Oberon. I must watch. Thank you for watching the old movies.
vodka4everandalways 1 year ago
@vodka4everandalways I watched Wuthering Heights again but, youtube keeps taking Jane Eyre off. Now Voyager with Bette Davis was put up again about a month ago watch it now before youtube finds it. Part 1 - Now, Voyager (1942). The Ghost and Mrs Muir was put up again 2 months. Find it here Part 1 - The Ghost and Mrs. Muir (1947). Go to blinkx.com. You're going to be shocked, but, the movie shuts down after 72 min. and you came back in 54. You can deal with that. It also has Gone With The Wind.
hjb103055 1 year ago
Rebecca's out of character trying to please DeWinter, silly woman can't see that she needn't bother.
GarydosDoritos 1 year ago
oh,what gorgeous is the movie ,i didn`t expected to be that way ,I just discover the book a few days ago ,and now I`m reading it ,and I begin to think that is one of my favorites ,movie and book. The actors are the best ,she is so sweet and young and he is very handsome.Wish I would live on those days where love and respet value much more .
punksandra 1 year ago 4
laurence olivier is sexyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
selenabritroma 1 year ago 22
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TheBuff94 1 year ago 3
@TheBuff94 ha ha absaloutly very very random though
coltmanm 1 year ago
Poor Mrs. De Winter! She wanted Max to be stunned and shocked! Like that wolf cartoon... But stupid Max "Oh yes you look lovely" after all those questions! Whats wrong with you, Max?! She is getting all dressed up all sexy for you! And what do you do? You just dont care... Men!
kendappaouh 1 year ago 3
@susuwatari007 Totally agree with you lol
Really feel sorry for her, especially when she tries to change. Joan Fontaine does the character a lot of justice I think.
"What on earth have you done to yourself?"
Smooth. And any shred of self-confidence she had was completely destroyed.
karyn13house 1 year ago 6
rebecca rebecca rebecca... how could that not drive you insane??
I want her to just say, you know what?? F*CK rebecca. I'm running the show now!
grrr...
great acting though... and he's a sexy beast despite being a prick
susuwatari007 2 years ago 77
Wow...she's awkward
Gabi8ful 2 years ago
0-0 maxims face in the dark when she spoke of gossip.
tennant000forever 2 years ago
How annoying is that woman! (even for that time)
ximedea 2 years ago
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I find the female lead in this movie unlikeable. Too shy, naive, and asks too many questions - annoying and self aware
Transfixion 2 years ago
I think that was her character
dzhang222 2 years ago
She's far worse in the book. I find Joan Fontaine as Mrs De. Winter in the movie very endearing and likable. Her shyness and naivety is cute. In the book she's far more pathetic.
toothbrush55 2 years ago 7
Her behavior is one of the points of the film--a "nobody" who is put into the situation of becoming a "great lady." Her circumstances are also complicated by the fact that the man she married is hiding a LOT about his former wife, and gets endless hints about how fabulous she was. Joan Fontaine is merely playing the role as it was written in the screenplay, and she's playing it VERY well (she was nominated for an Oscar for this role, and would win it the next year for "Suspicion").
yohannbiimu 2 years ago 7
Black satin and pearls....noooo!!!
bookishmuch 2 years ago
Its so cute how much she tries!
jhn128 2 years ago 8
lol @ don't be such an idiot
justholli 2 years ago
i love how daphne doesnt reveal her name:)
lalagurrl1994 2 years ago 6
I agree, but it's a pain in the ass when you're writing about her.
It seems wrong to call her the "current" or "second" Mrs. de Winter.
Artemis6769 2 years ago
She actually does...at the end of the book you find out her name is Caroline.
jjbeadle1 2 years ago
actually, you never find out her name. it's symbolic, she's supposed to be overshadowed bu Rebecca.
also just want to say i think it's sad so many people don't seem to like her. I think reading the book you get a better point of her perspective. She is shy and scared, and well, yes is seemingly young, that's how du Maurier wanted to portray her. she does get more mature as the story progresses.
HaplessRomantic 2 years ago 8
@jjbeadle1 No, you're wrong. You are thinking of the part when she dresses up as one of the pictures in the gallery for the fancy dress ball, and gets the drummer to introduce her as "Mrs Caroline de Winter". In actual fact she was DRESSING UP AS Mrs Caroline de Winter - one of Maxim's relatives. If you paid attention to the book you would have realised that.
fizzletto 2 years ago
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Her name was SUSAN!
incachica1 2 years ago
Hey... how do you know her name is susan? Just wondering.
adrake1000 2 years ago
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OkThen007 2 years ago 3
No, her name wasn't Susan.
LexiixoxRoxx 2 years ago
No, it really wasn't.
LexiixoxRoxx 2 years ago
@incachica1 Idiot.
fizzletto 2 years ago
whoa maxim talks fast!!!!
r5q5is10 2 years ago
she didn't have a name because she was living in Rebecca's shadow. she's the main character and the narrarator, and the book isn't even named after her. i kinda like that.
heathermarietaylor 2 years ago 6
never thought of it like that...and i do like that we don't know her name but we would be nice to know what was the name maxim adored so.
2rainydays 2 years ago
"I could at least lick the stamps!" always loved this movie! Having a ball with the DSM V on my lap, a sort of class project...
richiebabay 2 years ago
love this movie!!
greenxlemons 2 years ago 4
I never noticed u dont know her name thanks for waking me up I read this book in the 80s
dawnrexgurl 2 years ago 2
that is okay...
fkhang9223 2 years ago
No her name is deliberately not mentioned at all in the book. Joan Fontaine was Olivia de Haviland's (Melanie Wilkes in Gone With the Wind) sister - they couldn't stand each other.
Labryschick 2 years ago 4
i hate how they didnt say her name.. i was trying to explain the book to my mum and i kept sayin "the person called I" lol
30stmgaara 2 years ago
I've only heard her be called "the narrator" or "the second wife." So even outside of the book she can't be called anything else hehe.
Labryschick 2 years ago 2
The girl who plays the new Mrs. De Winter is stunning.
xforcedsilencex 2 years ago 93
I concur! It runs in her family!
BSTO88 2 years ago 8
her name is joan fontaine
xsugarhiiox 2 years ago 6
I know.
xforcedsilencex 2 years ago 5
oh okay :)
xsugarhiiox 2 years ago 3
@xforcedsilencex Joan Fontaine...LOVE HER!!!
mrsrochester10 1 year ago 2
@xforcedsilencex Joan Fontaine...who was the sister of Olivia de Haviland...who was in "Gone with the Wind"...which starred Viven Leigh...who was married to Laurence Olivier...Freaky!! That's a pre-Kevin Bacon six degrees thing happening right there
Trund27 11 months ago 3
@xforcedsilencex Joan Fontaine is beautiful isn't she? She was wonderful in the 1943 version of Jane Eyre too. And generally brilliant in everything, haha.
poorlydrawnskulls 7 months ago 3
the book is a good read even if the beginning is kind of boring...but to understand the novel is to understand the beginnning!! great movie and book!!
fkhang9223 2 years ago 2
Joan Fontaine- lacking beauty?
sorry, that's just ridiculous! :P
phantomfever17 3 years ago 14
Maxim habla recontra archi rapidisissisiisismo!
karendymq 3 years ago
i love it when Maxim sticks his tongue out, it looked like he was have a great time, lol it is so funny and it felt like he wasnt acting. jsut being himself ... lol funny
fkhang9223 3 years ago 4
The thing about this movie is that every single character actor is just top-drawer. They are hollywood of the 40's and they make this movie such a pleasure and absolutely a step above so many others.
iluvdesmond 3 years ago 2
The new Mrs de Winter is a non-person, poor girl. Notice no one (servants not included), not even her husband, calls her by her first name except darling, my dear.
Come to think of it: What is her name?
And we've come up to part6!
nantata 3 years ago
Mrs. de Winter's name is never told... the novel is told through her point of view, so her name is never given
bibliophile0228 3 years ago 4
It adds to the discovery of her own identity. Throughout the movie she keeps trying to be like the late Mrs. DeWinter, however it isn't until the end that she finally finds herself.
DragonKat07 3 years ago
The book the movie is based on is written in the first person, from Mrs. DeWinter's point of view, so her name is never given, which is why in the movie she only referred to as pet names.
But, yes, good point. I think there may be another reason, it does give you the impression that she is a non-entity. Maybe this is to highten the contrast of the influential shadow of "Rebecca". It also accentuates the drama of her growth and development as an individual character/person.
spinspinnsugar 2 years ago 2
bibliophile, dragonkat, spinspinnsugar
Good observations, thank you.
I do see that too.
Brilliant characterisation, so much so you really feel you want to shake her and tell her to get a grip on herself and be her own person.
ps,
what other movies are you guys watching, so we can all have a good discussion?
nantata 2 years ago
But if we should really talk about Hitchcock's genius at directing, then we must take notice that he used the same suspense technique twice in the same movie and both worked perfectly well--even better the second time round!... I'm talking about the heroine's attempt to woo Maxim by the dress she's wearing (the second being the great suspenseful scene where she walks down the stairs for the ball)... Pure genius I tell you!...
RichardHannay 3 years ago
The first dress is the dress fits the quote he said earlier: "Never to wear a black dress, pearls and be 36"
DragonKat07 3 years ago
Doesn't she also wear a black dress and pearls by the end of the film?... So in essence, Maxim also killed the second Mrs. De Winter--he mentioned that she wasn't the sweet, innocent girl he once first met--she's become a woman and has begun taking charge...
RichardHannay 3 years ago
I just looked again to make sure, and It was a gray. However, it isn't a woman taking charge of things that he fears, it is Mrs. DeWinter becoming Rebecca that he fears. She grew up, which is what she needed to do to find her identity (a huge theme in the film). She is still herself, but matured...and she is finally happy. The fact that they are happy together and there is no longer a shadow of a lie between them is more than enough to make up for Mrs. DeWinter 'growing up'. =)
DragonKat07 3 years ago
@Richard Hannay: You could her wearing black and pearls as doing what she wants, despite what Maxim told her he wanted her to be, no? See it very differently.
chislehurstbat 2 years ago
I feel so sorry for her. But we are happy, aren't we? Terribly happy!
And the saddest thing is: they, and above all: she, is not happy AT ALL!
LisaB1991 3 years ago 2
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ellieb1228 3 years ago
Hitchcock is such a genius! I love how high on the doors the doorknobs are: it makes "the 2nd Mrs. DeWinter" look so small and vulnerable, like a child reaching up for a doorknob.
yankeemd 3 years ago 3
Yes, that was a great and brilliant detail that really had to make an effect to the viewers subconsciously...
RichardHannay 3 years ago
maxim "don't be such a little idiot darling" is there something ironic by the way he adds "darling" to that sentence.
Enchant0524 3 years ago 4
the way she talks to mrs danvers is like shes the servant, not the mistress...i would have put it straight to her the first day...:)
Lucithen 3 years ago 6
Mrs. Danvers takes avantage of that. She knows the narrator is scared of her so she manipulates her all she can.
LexiixoxRoxx 2 years ago
notice he hasnt kissed her yet...
addictedtomusic0 3 years ago 7
He kisses her in the honeymoon sequence.
iluvdesmond 3 years ago
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maxime is sooo stupid
Chikalita2 3 years ago
seriously, maxim needs a sharp kick on his hinny. he has put his wife in an untenable position and expects her to just deal with it. the man needs an analyst!
abemoni 3 years ago 8
No doubt! I think he's weak. He is looking for a wife-replacement who doesn't threaten or challenge the idolization and obsession over his first wife's memory. Someone whom he can control and finds pleasing, but is easily controlled, submissive and who does not compete with the impression of Rebecca.
spinspinnsugar 2 years ago
Thank you. I was saying the same thing before I read your comment. He should have taken care of himself with a team of analysts before he threw himself into another relationship/marriage.
ovendoll 2 years ago
I like Maxim at times but damn he's really annoying at the same time.
Labryschick 2 years ago 4
God, who cares about that stupid piece if china. This is another reason I would have gotten rid of Danvers the first day.
skylur44 3 years ago 6
Danvers? I would have gone around setting that whole house straight, including Mr. Dewinter.
monmichka77 3 years ago 6
It was one of the house treasures. Maxim says so himself.
LexiixoxRoxx 2 years ago
Nothing is worth all that drama, incl an alleged treasure.
skylur44 2 years ago
Well it definitely was valuable to him and if he thought it a treasure, then so be it. Maybe there's a story to it, now we don't know for sure what it means to him do we? If it wasn't important he wouldn't have gone through all the trouble. Besides, I don't think they made big deal of it. What caused the drama was Mrs. Danvers accusin poor Robert. And thanks for answering my question in the other video :)
LexiixoxRoxx 2 years ago
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`Modesty, sincerity...that mean more to a husband than all the wit and beauty in the world...`
Was that a major Freudian slip or what?
Gosh, I must say...purity is overrated
dochiaz 3 years ago
dochiaz: Far more men believe that than do not; then again, far more men have taste class and values, all attributes which seem to have eluded you. And purity can never be "overrated."
skylur44 3 years ago
You see, that`s the problem with a lot of people when they try to argue. They assume certain things they shouldn`t about the other (like that of me being a man:P and of lacking certain attributes) and they inevitably fall back on that old trick of argumentum ad hominem. I said purity is overated because I believe it is the result of an insecure man`s thinkiing, who can`t cope with the fact that the woman he loves could be more )or less) that the ideal he envisioned.
dochiaz 3 years ago 4
What a cute little cocker. Thank goodness Rebecca didn't have the dog monogrammed, we already see too much of that silly R. Even poor old Crawley is still taken with Rebecca, abd she surely teased him all the time because that's the kind of person she was. Poor Crawley! But he's wrong she was afraid of dying in pain. Rebecca's nothing but propaganda and hearsay, but the young Mrs. de Winter believes it all an thinks herself unworthy, which is simply not true.
poliador 4 years ago 24
The dog monogrammed lol. I was thinking the same thing.
magpiepeck 4 years ago 6
I had a dog named Jasper.
clockworkgirl21 4 years ago 2
MY name is jasper.
skinnymexicanbuddha 4 years ago 5
woof woof!
Ozzee1 3 years ago 3
same here! was yours named after him?
LadyEmmaHamilton 3 years ago