Another way of stopping extremism is to ban all Imams from preaching who were trained in Saudi Arabia,and any books or DVD's from Saudi Arabia should be approved before been allowed to enter any mosque or Islamic school.Wahhabism been exported from Saudi Arabia is becoming a big problem and teaches Muslims to hate the kaffer and not to integrate.
@QuranISmeinkampf Islam is not a thing to be bargained with or accommodated, or demonized, it should be resisted implacably and unemotionally. We should stop accommodating them, stop listening to them. We should stop building Islamic Centres, we have never had publicly funded Anti-Social Police-Hating Scumbag Centres, have we? Just because groups live within our midst and breed faster than the productive classes it does not follow that we have to respect them and go along with their agenda.
@QuranISmeinkampf I am not talking about having a resolution, but showing resolution. There is all the difference in the world between giving them what they want and not giving them what they can't have. They can't take away our freedom. They can't exempt themselves from our laws. They can't use our legal system to impose their legal concepts. There is nothing to talk about or compromise on.
@QuranISmeinkampf You really don't get this do you? Jihad is criminal activity. What's YOUR solution to murder? There is a difference between having a resolution (surrendering while pretending to be pragmatic) and showing resolution (not surrendering or being drawn into a fight on somebody else's terms). Posturing and debating in ellipses is futile, it might make you feel testicularly enhanced but it doesn't achieve anything.
I do agree that "political power grows out of the barrel of a gun". The conquest of Islam in history shows that cultures that were not strong enough to resist militarily were all defeated. (Zoroastrians) While those that there strong militarily were not (Castile and Aragon).
@JulianThePhilosopher Rubbish, the ayatollah does not care about Iran and Iranian culture. They are even Arabizing the place, something which is pissing the Iranians off. Islamism is about the ummah and not nationalism.
@joseffritzlismydaddy Ah ok, was reading Reza Aslan's book where that is his hypothesis. But i guess u probably have a better idea of what's happening in Iran.
@MartinJWillett Nope! I'm saying we need to start start going on the offensive in terms of both discourse and solidifying behind some tough policies. At the moment people are fighting on the back foot. eg Defending false accusations of being racist,,,etc instead of ignoring the false claims and asking Islamo apologists to explain their racist defence of Islam. Islam (Quran) is deeply racist against non-whites there are over 3 million 'brown' Muslim slaves in the Arab Emirates alone.
@MartinJWillett It's a metaphor for being inoffensive. You appear to have a good understanding of Islam externally, but not internally. Tell me have you read the Quran, do you understand the concept of abrogation? I must admit to being baffled as to why so many (apparently intelligent) people appear not to have read the Quran? There has got to be some sort of problem that I am not aware of.
@DontBendOverForAllah Why would we read the Quran, the Bible is bad enough, the problem here is religion, all of the religions, they try to say they teach love, have you read the bible, it is so full of hate. Funny how you never see people quoting the parts of the bible about raping the women and killing the children. It's time for people to wake up and see was nonsense these works of fiction are!
@scarletta Relativizing religions is just as bad; You *should* read both the Quran and the Bible to understand how that even if both are violent in their own ways, one allows for individualism, while the other most surely ends up in collectivist thinking. As an atheist I can then see that the foundation in the scriptures bring a lot of differences to the table; differences you can't relativize about.
@DontBendOverForAllah The reason I have not read the Qur'an is that I am pissed off by people demanding that I do. After years of taunting by Christians I read the whole Bible, cover to cover. I don't want to repeat that painful experience. But there is a chance I might go and read the bloody thing now after all, it might just shut some of the fuckers up. Not that it worked with the Christians, they now call me a liar. Three weeks of mind-numbing agony wasted! But the Qur'an is much shorter.
@MartinJWillett 80,000 words in the Quran Average reading speed 200 - 250 wpm = 5.9 hrs . 783,137 words in the Bible = 58 hrs . So people don't read the Quran, because of reading the Bible and after all they look similar in size, which they ain't. If you haven't seen it GOOGLE Islam what the west needs to know It contains the 'guts' of the Quran plus all the other essential bits and pieces, which took me 18 months to find out, in only 1.5 hours
@DontBendOverForAllah I have looked up those figures myself too! If it's available to borrow from the library I think I'll do it. I have also downloaded a pdf version. Much as I hate to go through that whole farce again and still have them saying I'm doing it wrong I suppose there must be some insights which would be useful.
It gives the correct order of the chaps (seriously the chapters are in the wrong order!) Madina chapters abrogate Macca ones. So you don't need to read the Macca chaps.you only need to read about 25% of it. That is about 1.5 hours! 'hypocrite' is a peaceful Muslim and 'oppressor' means anyone not practicing Islam. Chap 9 is the most important, it overrules all other Chapters. Chap 110 is the future when Islam has conquered the world!
What's the estimates 7-15% of the 1.6 billion Muslims want Islamise us through violence. They wont' talk. He's living in a dream world. Kill every single one of them. Sun Tsu said "Devastate your enemy so that you don't fear their response."
As long as they don't assimilate in the West, breed like rats, make ever more outrageous demands whilst having it better in the West than in any muslim country that's when we show resolve. You don't fight bullets/terror with talk.
@ThomAssSucksDick Who said anything about talking? If they ask for something they can't have there is no talking. There is nothing to negotiate and no reason to compromise. If people demand something they cannot have there is no reason to compromise. If they fight for something they can't have there is no reason to compromise.
Fighting fire with fire and tyrannically stopping something to an extreme is barbaric and will not hold up to the values and mindset of the new world. What about a sticker that says "stickers are stupid"?
The funny thing is that the mindset behind the notion that your enemy's enemy is your friend is very much an American one. That was what drove the USA to support the Taliban and their allies when they were fighting the Soviet forces back in the 80's. Some kind of friends, eh?
@detersgumig That notion is really dangerous. America has directly financed some of the most evil people and regimes because it wanted other people to die in the fights it believed needed fighting. Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Saddam Hussain and Osama bin Laden have all been recipients of Uncle Sam's military aid, to ensure America's enemies (that year) are defeated at minimal cost in American lives. Will they ever learn?
Ironicly the left partly or greatly liberated the western world from the dogmatic christian political worldview. There are left intellectuals who stand against Islam in the same way we do, Sadly they had to adjust or shut up. Theo van Gogh said; "The social democrates have embrassed orthodoxy and will pay, like the the french couterparts, for years to come." Great video, resolution is the correct word.
@thatamazinggeek Well obviously, all those smart leftist intellectuals on the BBC couldn't be wrong, could they?
Since I have stopped trying to fit in with them I've felt like a huge weight had been taken off me.
MartinJWillett 10 months ago
@thatamazinggeek That's about the size of it.
MartinJWillett 10 months ago
I always enjoy listening to your views
obidunn14 1 year ago
Another way of stopping extremism is to ban all Imams from preaching who were trained in Saudi Arabia,and any books or DVD's from Saudi Arabia should be approved before been allowed to enter any mosque or Islamic school.Wahhabism been exported from Saudi Arabia is becoming a big problem and teaches Muslims to hate the kaffer and not to integrate.
DeathDestroyer101 1 year ago
the one who is not getting it is YOU. I asked to propose a solution not empty rhetoric.
QuranISmeinkampf 1 year ago
@QuranISmeinkampf Islam is not a thing to be bargained with or accommodated, or demonized, it should be resisted implacably and unemotionally. We should stop accommodating them, stop listening to them. We should stop building Islamic Centres, we have never had publicly funded Anti-Social Police-Hating Scumbag Centres, have we? Just because groups live within our midst and breed faster than the productive classes it does not follow that we have to respect them and go along with their agenda.
MartinJWillett 1 year ago
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QuranISmeinkampf 1 year ago
Well Martin, we MIGHT be able to have a resolution with peaceful Muslims, but what about the extremists?
How are you going to have a resolution with them?
The Islamists that want sharia need to be deported and the extremists should be wiped out.
Could you reason with Hitler?
QuranISmeinkampf 1 year ago
@QuranISmeinkampf I am not talking about having a resolution, but showing resolution. There is all the difference in the world between giving them what they want and not giving them what they can't have. They can't take away our freedom. They can't exempt themselves from our laws. They can't use our legal system to impose their legal concepts. There is nothing to talk about or compromise on.
MartinJWillett 1 year ago
@MartinJWillett
fine, but how are you going to show resolution to Muslim extremists?
Dialog does not work with them.
What is your proposal?
Not just empty rhetoric please, practical solutions.
QuranISmeinkampf 1 year ago
@QuranISmeinkampf You really don't get this do you? Jihad is criminal activity. What's YOUR solution to murder? There is a difference between having a resolution (surrendering while pretending to be pragmatic) and showing resolution (not surrendering or being drawn into a fight on somebody else's terms). Posturing and debating in ellipses is futile, it might make you feel testicularly enhanced but it doesn't achieve anything.
MartinJWillett 1 year ago
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@MartinJWillett
You are the one who does not get it, you keep on spouting empty rhetoric.
QuranISmeinkampf 1 year ago
I do agree that "political power grows out of the barrel of a gun". The conquest of Islam in history shows that cultures that were not strong enough to resist militarily were all defeated. (Zoroastrians) While those that there strong militarily were not (Castile and Aragon).
JulianThePhilosopher 1 year ago
There are2 types of Islamists.
1) National Islamists (Hamas, Iran) They view Islam as their national identity.- Right
2) Global Islamists (JI, Al Qaeda ) They want a global caliphate. - Left
They hate each other more then we hate them. We should come up with a strategy to make them fight each other.
JulianThePhilosopher 1 year ago
@JulianThePhilosopher Rubbish, the ayatollah does not care about Iran and Iranian culture. They are even Arabizing the place, something which is pissing the Iranians off. Islamism is about the ummah and not nationalism.
joseffritzlismydaddy 1 year ago
@joseffritzlismydaddy Ah ok, was reading Reza Aslan's book where that is his hypothesis. But i guess u probably have a better idea of what's happening in Iran.
JulianThePhilosopher 1 year ago
Well put!
DurexDurpaneu2 1 year ago
Said the Red Squirrel to it's other Red Squirrel chums in 1910.
DontBendOverForAllah 1 year ago
@DontBendOverForAllah What do suggest as an alternative, shooting them and eating them in pies?
MartinJWillett 1 year ago
@MartinJWillett Nope! I'm saying we need to start start going on the offensive in terms of both discourse and solidifying behind some tough policies. At the moment people are fighting on the back foot. eg Defending false accusations of being racist,,,etc instead of ignoring the false claims and asking Islamo apologists to explain their racist defence of Islam. Islam (Quran) is deeply racist against non-whites there are over 3 million 'brown' Muslim slaves in the Arab Emirates alone.
DontBendOverForAllah 1 year ago
@DontBendOverForAllah And how is this "fight" helped by talk of vermin?
MartinJWillett 1 year ago
@MartinJWillett It's a metaphor for being inoffensive. You appear to have a good understanding of Islam externally, but not internally. Tell me have you read the Quran, do you understand the concept of abrogation? I must admit to being baffled as to why so many (apparently intelligent) people appear not to have read the Quran? There has got to be some sort of problem that I am not aware of.
DontBendOverForAllah 1 year ago
@DontBendOverForAllah Why would we read the Quran, the Bible is bad enough, the problem here is religion, all of the religions, they try to say they teach love, have you read the bible, it is so full of hate. Funny how you never see people quoting the parts of the bible about raping the women and killing the children. It's time for people to wake up and see was nonsense these works of fiction are!
scarletta 1 year ago
@scarletta Relativizing religions is just as bad; You *should* read both the Quran and the Bible to understand how that even if both are violent in their own ways, one allows for individualism, while the other most surely ends up in collectivist thinking. As an atheist I can then see that the foundation in the scriptures bring a lot of differences to the table; differences you can't relativize about.
sp00x 1 year ago
@DontBendOverForAllah The reason I have not read the Qur'an is that I am pissed off by people demanding that I do. After years of taunting by Christians I read the whole Bible, cover to cover. I don't want to repeat that painful experience. But there is a chance I might go and read the bloody thing now after all, it might just shut some of the fuckers up. Not that it worked with the Christians, they now call me a liar. Three weeks of mind-numbing agony wasted! But the Qur'an is much shorter.
MartinJWillett 1 year ago
DontBendOverForAllah 1 year ago
@DontBendOverForAllah I have looked up those figures myself too! If it's available to borrow from the library I think I'll do it. I have also downloaded a pdf version. Much as I hate to go through that whole farce again and still have them saying I'm doing it wrong I suppose there must be some insights which would be useful.
MartinJWillett 1 year ago
@MartinJWillett GOOGLE 'Revelation Order of the Quran'
It gives the correct order of the chaps (seriously the chapters are in the wrong order!) Madina chapters abrogate Macca ones. So you don't need to read the Macca chaps.you only need to read about 25% of it. That is about 1.5 hours! 'hypocrite' is a peaceful Muslim and 'oppressor' means anyone not practicing Islam. Chap 9 is the most important, it overrules all other Chapters. Chap 110 is the future when Islam has conquered the world!
DontBendOverForAllah 1 year ago
@DontBendOverForAllah
What's the estimates 7-15% of the 1.6 billion Muslims want Islamise us through violence. They wont' talk. He's living in a dream world. Kill every single one of them. Sun Tsu said "Devastate your enemy so that you don't fear their response."
As long as they don't assimilate in the West, breed like rats, make ever more outrageous demands whilst having it better in the West than in any muslim country that's when we show resolve. You don't fight bullets/terror with talk.
ThomAssSucksDick 1 year ago
@ThomAssSucksDick Who said anything about talking? If they ask for something they can't have there is no talking. There is nothing to negotiate and no reason to compromise. If people demand something they cannot have there is no reason to compromise. If they fight for something they can't have there is no reason to compromise.
MartinJWillett 1 year ago
@DontBendOverForAllah
I agree
QuranISmeinkampf 1 year ago
Your videos deserve more views.
Thanks for posting.
Universefreedom 1 year ago
Fighting fire with fire and tyrannically stopping something to an extreme is barbaric and will not hold up to the values and mindset of the new world. What about a sticker that says "stickers are stupid"?
Aresftfun 1 year ago
Terrific vid well said.
'Psycho wankery' Hmmm. Ok if I use that?
CorporalNym 1 year ago
@CorporalNym It's not my property. It's a phrase I heard my ex-boss use once.
MartinJWillett 1 year ago
That was brilliant, Martin. Nothing less.
The funny thing is that the mindset behind the notion that your enemy's enemy is your friend is very much an American one. That was what drove the USA to support the Taliban and their allies when they were fighting the Soviet forces back in the 80's. Some kind of friends, eh?
detersgumig 1 year ago
@detersgumig That notion is really dangerous. America has directly financed some of the most evil people and regimes because it wanted other people to die in the fights it believed needed fighting. Stalin, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Saddam Hussain and Osama bin Laden have all been recipients of Uncle Sam's military aid, to ensure America's enemies (that year) are defeated at minimal cost in American lives. Will they ever learn?
MartinJWillett 1 year ago
Well said Martin. 5/5. I hope that all those that have or wish to ban the burka will take note.
Cat1981England 1 year ago
This is probably one of your best videos. Thumbs up and Favourited
Klingschor 1 year ago
Beautiful.
DARKEYED9 1 year ago
Excellent analysis.
TheNakedAtheist 1 year ago
Bravo!
123backinyerface 1 year ago
Great video, Martin.
foreskinforest 1 year ago
Ironicly the left partly or greatly liberated the western world from the dogmatic christian political worldview. There are left intellectuals who stand against Islam in the same way we do, Sadly they had to adjust or shut up. Theo van Gogh said; "The social democrates have embrassed orthodoxy and will pay, like the the french couterparts, for years to come." Great video, resolution is the correct word.
MexxPowers 1 year ago
I suppose politcal values are switched over when going from the US to the UK (or whichever country you're in).
DearestyouXII 1 year ago
Spain solved the graffiti problem by setting areas aside
to spray their brains out
good vid man
000whiterabbit 1 year ago 2