MD-11 smokey startup and pushback

[TorfieldRailways]

This is perfectly normal for an MD11, or indeed any older plane with Pratt & Whitney engines. Very cool to watch from here, but probably worrying for the passengers inside!

[logicalorb]

the driver of the pushback tug is really in a hurry ..

[alg546]

Fantastic Airplane .

Well done Douglas

[ivanisfad]

this pushback is very fast or not ?

[DJSONICMUSIC]

dont like md 11 as a commercial airplane

[MidaTv]

you know its forbidden to film on a SECURED area on amsterdam airport?

[voteforsocks45632]

why does klm still use the md 11

[member111222]

@voteforsocks45632

Almost all MD11s were sold to Cargo operaters in the last years due to its high resale prices. Maybe KLM now completely paid them off and are right now make money with it.

[futureguy1701]

OMG aplane

[MayoDK]

Haha, is he going to push it all the way to the runway? :)

[matnot100]

Well what a push back.

[sheerkan30]

i don t undestarnd

[BulldzrWV]

Are u sure this isnt a DC-9?

[MrCriticOfAll]

@BulldzrWV WTF its closer to a DC-10

[Farmerpilot13]

@BulldzrWV no dc 9s have t configuration tails with the horizontal stabalizer on top of the vertical stabilizer

[humbertsin1994]

that's such a long push back!!

[qt76nlz]

Thats a long good pushout. Kudos for the tractor driver. Good for him!

[cainanuk]

Whats with the push back driver? Is he in a rush to go use the toilet or something? Push backs should never exceed a brisk walking pace.

[alienhuman]

Interesting towing procedure. No vehicle behind the plane and no wing walkers.

[iJay842]

Almost esacly likle the DC-10 :L

[paradox795]

the same thing happend to me the other day, exept there was more smoke

[Disendant]

pushback is a~~~what?

[MrMatt828]

Let me guess, is that plane going to Vancouver, Canada?

[mileyrocks107]

what is with the crap on the runway

[Ukulelemagratt]

This plane is ugly !

[antimatterXXXIII]

This is nothing - I was once on the first morning flight of a TWA L-1011 which had been sitting at the gate for hours - when the engines were started shortly before boarding, the entire airplane was enveloped in dense smoke! It's completely normal. But the passengers were alarmed while I chuckled.

[garyj79]

Its a shame the MD-11 along with the Tristar and DC-10 have now virtually gone.....I know theres issues with them performance wise BUT they look(ed) different than all the others (which lets face it, have a tendency to look very similar) airbus A318,A319 & A321 are not very original, they just seem to be different variants of the A320 from the outside! correct me if im wrong of course......I may be im not an expert on the subject.......

[Rzar08]

they r a bitch to land

[tomomarujump]

Did this MD11 fly after this normally?

[LGW340]

@tomomarujump

Yeah, this is pretty standard on an MD-11 especially on a cold day

[yappinc]

Maybe needs a tune up, lol some plugs and plug wires lol

[slh950]

LOVE this plane in the KLM colours!

[marshalcraft]

weres that guy taken them?

[stratoleft]

It's amazing. If you took off the letters KLM and added that goofy Pepsi logo, the plane would look exactly like Korean Air.

[zaphr89]

When it comes to planes i actually like them chubby ;P

[redjonathan1]

@zaphr89 767s are pretty chubby :P

[whufcburkett]

@LGW340 - I can actually get a camera airside, I had to take loads of pics for some company business. BAA don't really care, as long as it's all above board, which it (sort of) is!!

[FEDEXMD11]

Dude that pushback driver was definitely speeding! He must of missed the memo on when Happy Hour started.

[Techno04335]

pushbacker must be n a hurry lol

[KD5XB]

@Techno04335 I suspect he was trying to get out of the way of the 747 coming at them!

[alexalvesjr]

Dude that was a real fast PUSHBACK!!!!

No wonder i love HEINEKEN hehehehe

Good job dude, if was here in America you been chased by policy!!!!

[whufcburkett]

Hi I work on the ramp at STN for Fedex (world's largest MD11 operator) -- the smokey start is the Pratt & Whitney engines - not sure why but they always do it! Sometimes quite spectacular to watch but usually just annoying (especially when stood down-wind)!!! I'll try and get some on vid, if I can get a camera airside! Good vid =)

[LGW340]

Have fun trying to sneak a camera airside, you know what BAA are like!!!! ;-)

[trent8002003]

That's a KLM MD11 in the video, so it's GE's CF6-80 engine that's starting up smoky here. BTW, Fedex also uses GE's engines on its MD11s. Delta, Korean, JAL among others use(d) Pratt and Whitney on their MD11s.

[instructablesderin]

@whufcburkett Not a real pilot or working on a ramp or anything, but I think those might be the CF6 engines...although you do know better than me :)

[kinsley2108]

@whufcburkett Looks like SOMEONE'S been riding the clutch, lol.

[DCLI1207]

@whufcburkett Hello from FedEx "across the pond..." The MD-11's are amazing,

- Former D.G. Agent at TPA ramp

[TheAirproxx]

@whufcburkett

Except that these are GE engines ;-)

[member111222]

@whufcburkett

Isn't it due to rests of fuel that remained in the engine which is burned on startup?

[trent8002003]

Even though it comes short on just about every aspect of aerodynamic performance, the MD11 is still a very handsome aircraft. Too bad they're almost all gone.......

[maryoassyrian2007]

@trent8002003 There are'nt any more?

[trent8002003]

Almost all gone as passenger aircraft. Many still fly as freighters. So relax. They'll be around for a long long time.

[itapirkanmaa]

@trent8002003 Nonsense, MD-11 are just fine, fly profitably every day, have gone nowhere, and will stay on until the 2020s!

[trent8002003]

@itapirkanmaa double nonsense. MD11Fs are profitable no doubt. But MD11 Pax profitable? Pleeeease. Why don't you ask American, Delta, Korean and Singapore Airlines why they tossed their MD11s away like hot potatoes!

[blueb0g]

@trent8002003 Not really. She climbs nicely, and makes good speed.

[trent8002003]

@blueb0g Yes, she does. Unfortunately she burns up too much fuel doing so.

[blueb0g]

@trent8002003 Oh, I do hate this world where efficiency is everything...

[trent8002003]

@blueb0g I know what you mean. There's absolutely no room for things that are beautiful but not efficient. Too bad. There goes our beautiful MD11s and L1011s and VC10s and.A340-500/600s.......

[cdlmn63]

For those that do not know when you do a cold start there is always some smoke and fact really not smoke at all , oils being heated prior to acctual start ignitors warming etc.

[titod420]

I have seen that several times while working at FedEx Express ramp. MD 10's and 11's. I have also seen the APU exhaust shooting out about 4 feet of flame. The flames stopped but it scared me....

[alruin4531]

klm is slowly replacing them with 777s but their md11s look almost as new in the new paint sheme.

[DaAfterburner]

B747 still looks the best, and the MD-11 comes next :D.

[sonic187sq]

Md 11 is a sweet machine

[OCXEON]

haha reminds me of a L-1011

Nice vid!

[asadjansari]

How do we reach the terrace from inside the airport. I am always on transit and can't seem to find the way

[Maarten2bf]

Hi, on transit i think your not allowed as you'll first have to walk through arrivals, to the public area.

If you decide to do so, walk to the arrivals and follow signs 'schiphol plaza'. You will be entering a big hall combined with the trainstation which is underground.

Follow signs 'Panorama Terrace' via departures 1 and 2 and youll be there in abount 10 minutes.

[dodogolf1993]

that was sweet!

[davec154]

well, it would have made my day if i was sitting on it hehe, can't beat the 3-holers!

Nice work Chris, glad you had a good time there

[sheldonholy]

I didnt know that they were still in service... i would have been scared to death watching that startup if i were on board. Probably a few cats and mice stuck in the engine lol.