TTC Subway at Rosedale Station- 1954

[HurricaneNWG]

from G1 to TR, the subway has come a really long way

[cheeriosinabowl]

Wow, nice ride down memory lane.

What amazed me .... NO CROWDS! That must've been nice.

[pplk23]

I wish I got to ride one of these. The last one in revenue service retired before I was born :(

[beenie3]

Yup, those were always my favorite. I loved the squeeling brakes and flickering lights. They just looked more impressive than the H's and those that replaced them. I just posted my own video of one taken about 25 years ago...about 3 years before they scrapped `em!!

[nicholasperry56]

Haha. It has hardly changed

[ANDREWWALLFORD123]

Looks like a london underground history.

[GTAfan8850]

Did those trains made weird farting noises when they accelerate and when they stopped?

[anaki101]

I never knew the trains were coloured in the 50's...

[Roblox206]

Good times good times atleast for the ttc

[leafyutube]

Holy crap! Rosedale station looks exactly the same today.

[retrotronikal]

Wow, there is no lighting back then! i remember the train as a kid the lights inside the train would always flicker on and off!

[phillydisco]

@retrotronikal They had lights, but I remember it being very dimly lit inside. And the ceilings were higher mainly because the top sections weren't occupied by the air con machinery like current cars have.

[phillydisco]

No chimes. The door guard guy had to blow a whistle until sometime in the 90s. The oldest trains retro-fitted with the chimes and running today are the H2s, with the plush seats and orange and beige color scheme. I saw one go by the other day, out of service, at the end of rush hour.

[phillydisco]

@funstuffaweek I'm not sure by that. Is that a chime? I remember whenever they stopped, they made a sound that I always thought as a kid sounded like farting. I think it was the way the brakes worked on those trains.

[mariusbleek]

the REAL red rocket

[phillydisco]

Nice footage.

If you watch The Spoons music video Romantic Traffic, they show some old subway cars circa 1981/82, and the old Bloor station before the renovation.

There's also an episode of The Littlest Hobo called 'Ghost Station' that takes place in the TTC. I think it was filmed in 84 or 85. They show the dog going inside a red Gloucester train.

[Will87]

Is this the earliest footage?

[thewizkid15]

i cried when they got rid of these. :"(

SO Sad

[AG3304]

They remind me of the old trains l worked on at London Transport,on their District line.Ours even had the same couplers,and the trucks were very much the same to look at.Nice.Shame they're gone now,along with the London ones.Gloucester car co did lots of work for the London Transport system about the time the Toronto ones were built.

[bradyhardy]

i heard that trains lights turned off when it was in a tunnel

[phillydisco]

Yep. Once in a while I would be excited when I saw a silver colored one. Most of them were red. I can't remember if they mixed colors, or if they had all-silver colored trains (all six cars).

[kissarmyrules]

yeh i think it was mainly due to switching power lines, and the fact that less energy was being pumped into the stations back then (from what i can imagine) so when it left 1 rail, it would just glide to the next, causing little rolling 'blackouts' in the cars :P

[phillydisco]

@kissarmyrules The blackouts were specific to the Gloucester's only. They didn't occur with the Montreals or any of the H6s running at the same time. I think it was just a design flaw, or at least it wasn't something they thought of fixing until after they had bought and used these cars.

[kissarmyrules]

@phillydisco Hmm maybe :/ I doubt ive been riding the TTC as long as u :/

[phillydisco]

@kissarmyrules LOL. Yeah, I remember when sundays had shorter trains, and people standing at the back end of the platform would have to run to get onto the last car.

[kissarmyrules]

@phillydisco lmao sounds like fun XD

never had the red trains when I was a kid, the oldest ones were the ones w/ the overhead a/c vents (which I can now literally grab & hold onto for dear life XD), wood (or mock wood) paneling, and the rare single seater beside the operator cabin.

i think when I was about 6 or something, they started introducing the electronic chime thing, to tell you to move your ass, the train's leaving lmao :P

[phillydisco]

@kissarmyrules I think those were the H5s. They'd make a buzzing sound when they slowed down to a stop or started moving. I think they still run them on the Yonge Spadina Line, but they've changed the seats from the orange and browns to the reds, if I'm not mistaken. And they smell like a moldy basement.

You missed out on the good old days of the whistle. First whistle was a warning the doors would be closing, then about 3 to 5 seconds later the second whistle would signal the closing door.

[kissarmyrules]

@phillydisco Oh I know those, I'm 20 ffs XD

as a lad, I used to pretend I was one of the whistle guys lmao

Seriously, they should re-instate the whistle guys, it gave the TTC a more human feel...and the train drivers never had amnesia...unlike the automated system (and I quote lmao) "the next stop is Don Mills, Don Mills station, the next stop is Don Mills, Don Mills station" and the same thing would happen right before u enter or arrive at the station XD

[phillydisco]

@kissarmyrules The calling out of stations was a recent change (around the late 90s, I think). The TTC was forced to do that for the visually impaired. I was on a few trains where the person saying the station messed it up. Also, sometimes they'd goof around with silly voices and stuff. I've got a good sense of humor, but after a long day, that joking around is just annoying. I just want them to get the next train arriving time right. 3min doesn't change for 2 min isn't 3min, it's closer to 5

[hillcrestG]

wow this footage is amazing

really nice to see this

[BlackJays]

Amazing footage! Am I the only one who thinks the audio is dubbed over?

[83056]

As a kid I remember those red subway trains, on hot days you could open the windows because there was no A/C in the trains and somethings the lights would flicker off and on as they moved through the tunnel which was a pain for passengers reading the newspaper. lol

[phillydisco]

I also remember them having high ceilings, but that could have been due to me being a kid! :) Actually, I think the newer cars have lower ceilings because of the A/C and heating units in each car.

I should mention that the Littlest Hobo episode appears to show the unfinished underground ghost station at Queen St. The door to access it is at the lowest level of that area you use the escalator or stairs to move between the NBound and SBound platforms.

[phillydisco]

And they also run through the subway tunnels, although I'm not sure where (they've got the squared ceilings). Probably the University or Spadina line, since they exit the tunnel into a station with a central platform, purple colored.

The episode shows the lights going on and off in the gloucester car, and the passengers look scared. LOL!

[mariusbleek]

the original red rocket

[fedders4]

did these things have a/c because someone just their They were waayyyy more comfortable!

[torontostreetcars]

Boy I miss those old subway cars.

[ava0000]

They were waayyyy more comfortable. More stylish too.

[streetcarjay]

I wish the TTC would take some of those T1 cars, and paint them like those old Subway cars. Bring back som nostagia.

[danka223]

Where did you get this?

It's a great piece of history!

[ali67888]

WOW we are riding these craps still :O

the new ones are taking forever to comeeee

[Balasidine957]

That is rosedale station... not davisville

[trevorjones90]

Thank you for the correction. For some reason I was thinking Davisville when I posted this.

[reak7835]

i remember the red subway cars...there are only 2 of them left 5098 and 5099 are at the old guelph railway museum...

i went there a while ago

it's a great place

[phillydisco]

This would have been a silent film. The audio sounds like it must have been done recently. These subways were noisy when they came to a stop. Sounded like a loud fart.

[UglySean]

Nnot only that, but no whistle blowing when the doors close. I would hope that would have been in place from the beginning. Frankly, I miss them, but I guess the modern chimes are a sign of.... progress.

[401stToronto]

Great video! I didnt think it would be in colour.

[NeomobiusZero]

Nice

[ibuy4unow]

Nice.... Wow..

[Tom8201]

I miss the Gloucesters. The last train was retired when I was 7.

[trevorjones90]

A month after I was born, the TTC was begining to retire the Gloucesters from their rolling stock.

[Skaliwag66]

same here

[JEFFHARDY224]

great!!!

[at1212b]

Wow, amazing. It would be amazing to just travel back in time to ride it during those days.

[UglySean]

Oh well. I have jpeg copies of a first-day subway transfer, a user guide for the new subway, and "The Subway Song" from 1950 singing about the new subway coming to Toronto, which should still be available from the TTC website.

[trevorjones90]

You can find a lot of orginal B&W pictures on the Toronto archive/photo website. I got the song from the Ontario archives.

[TTCsubwayguy]

Amazing video!

[greekguy1326]

Where did this great historical video come from? I've never seen video footage of TO's subway from 1954 before. Excellent video!!!

[trevorjones90]

greekguy1326- I found this video in some TTC Subway archived information. I came across the video looking for the G-series specifications to build a model G-1 for a race.

The only other clip I have seen the Gloucester's in a 1954 movie is from the CBC news coverage of the opening ceremonies.

[torontosubway]

nice vid

[ttctae]

Wow Great video!