9th WAVE- SPIRITUALITY & SEXUAL PREFERENCES

[PrimeConsciousness]

The reason why male homosexuality is wrong is because it's quite likely that sodomy will be engaged in. Sodomy is a harmful and selfish act, regardless of who sodomizes. Heterosexuals who sodomize are just as repulsive, especially since every woman has a vagina to make use of. There is a mountain of peer reviewed data that proves why sodomy is physically destructive to all those who receive it and psychologically destructive to both parties. Anatomy can't be debated.

[terr547]

I've had people tell me that they are a little homosexual because they are strangely attracted to me... and yes, it is right to an extent, but it is not my phyicality that you are attracted to, it is my soul. If you knew who I was, you would know why that is. It is a feeling of unconditional love which permeates from me, and people often times misinterpret it as a homosexual attraction. But, no big deal. It doesn't bother me, so long as they don't force it upon me.

[Jahme88]

You lost me when you made it a point to say that fat women are not beautiful in your eyes. With your "higher level of maturity" you should see that ALL bodies are beautiful in their own way. Some part of you is an unattractive "abnormal" over-eating female.

[Isaiah6517]

Haha, Sexuality... funny we don't mind making games and movies where heaps of body bags are filled but screwing is a taboo.

[Gollumz]

A soul doesn't have a gender. So please do think about it before judging anyone. You cannot deny love, it has no boundaries.

[Isaiah6517]

@Gollumz many people aint happy in their form. Whether the real us is genderless or not (I think it is) regardless while you're here you are stuck in one box or another. For now. I think it will change though.

[eagle1023]

Wonderful video, Ron!

[IChoseTheRedPill]

i am a bisexual male although i remain in a monogamous relationship with my wife... the abrahamic religions have deep hangups regarding sex, especially homosexuality... my parents are Christians, they caught me in the basement with another boy... at first they started yelling, eventually they broke down in tears and continued to experience grief for quite along time afterwords... of course they tried to keep me out of boy on boy relationships, of course it didn't work... i love U...

Kensho

[Uberware]

The solution to all of this is to just accept other people as they are. Its pretty simple.

[mbop75]

polyamory is fine too btw

[WayseerToday]

aids is a designer virus. made for war. but when then there was a breakout in the lab. they disinerated the lab with everyone in it.but one. this man was gay and during that time free sex was at its highest with all the darkrooms and bathhouses and such. men would have literaly have dozens of contacts a day. this came in handy and they let it spread. AZT was already a fact but they kept it out of side for to long so the virus mutated. every virus/bacteria named with a code is designer

[LynxCoding]

You've got a good aura. =)

[THEBOLDCORSICANFLAME]

Here's a quote from a man named Gay :) "I accept relationship as my primary teacher about myself, other people, and the mysteries of the universe." - Gay Hendricks -

[celticprincess913]

Am I the only one who noticed he said women are beautiful except those that have "let themselves get unattractive" excuse me Ron, but that is a JUDGEMENT and that was very rude of you. We are not our bodies, remember?? This really upset me, but I will let it go.. you are human and you make mistakes.

[mikeisamovie]

@celticprincess913 jeez, you are right on that call--at 9:35 he goes through a check list as to what he considers "...normal..." yeah, that is a bit human now, ain't it? from the other side of the fence, some 'normal' women might not fancy a male over 60 with facial hair, too. ;-) we are all here in this life, within our human uniforms for the same purpose: to love and to be loved. from so many of the other comments, this sexuality topic seems to push a lot of buttons of awareness & ignorance.

[Rhapsody243ify]

Wise words again Ron. Always a pleasure to listen to you in these difficult times.

[EsotericWisdom33]

Interesting subject of spirituality and sexual preferences. The majority of humanity is still in the dark about this and continue judging and rejecting others while they reject themselves on a subconscious level. The awakening is progressing though and after the darkness of the night will come the dawn of illuminated freedom.

[talkingpens]

great video Ron :)

[detersbb]

There are many verses in the bible, the koran, the asian religions holy scriptures, the jewish holy books discussing the morality & ethics of sexuality. Two themes are repeated again and again-abstain from multiple partners to one life long & refrain from homosexual acts (also let animals mate with their own kind).

This is not institutional control or trying to define who we are-this about waste & misuse of the creative potential the human bodies exists to process, refine, purify & house.

[detersbb]

This creative potential is used to create, nurture, & strengthen the higher bodies-etheric/chi, astral, mental, causal, buddic, & atmic.

This creative potential is used to fulfill the condition of being born again of the spirit-high bodies & water-i.e. reproductive fluids-semen in both men & women.

Wasting this creative potential, expelling it for pleasure or to reproduce planting 100s of millions seeds by men destroys the spiritual potential in man & for man-hence the dark in which we live.

[adamsblackmore]

@detersbb only one sperm makes it with the egg in conception...natures way shows that millions of sperm are rejected and die...i'm guessing that by your comment, you reject the new way presented in the video...this is a shame because until unconditional love manifests on this planet we will continue to see division and seperation...why these religious books are called 'holy' is beyond my comprehension...the division and discrimination promoted is proven to be destructive...much love...namaste

[detersbb]

@adamsblackmore

I do not want to use the word evil-I will use the the phrase living out of harmony with the divine order to sum up the misuse of the sexual creative potential.

Love is fine in all, but be sure that what you love is in harmony with the divine order of things. If love were a virtue to be strived for at all cost-then we would have nothing to say about those who love murder, rape, theft, etc...

Love for love's sake taken out of context within existence can justify wrong acts.

[detersbb]

@adamsblackmore

This is exactly where the idea of division & discrimination being bad fails.

Do you see what I am getting at?

If we accept love as the most important event to be sought, then what is sought becomes less an issue & to speak out against what is sought when it is out of harmony with the divine order of things because division & discrimination & must be avoided under this logic

It must be understood the importance of living in harmony even at the risk of division & discrimination

[detersbb]

@adamsblackmore

What I am trying to say is not coming out right, do I will try again.

I can have unconditional love for those who are, have, & will commit atrocities in the ME fighting for Islam, Judaism, & against terrorism-but that does not mean what is being done by any of these factions is right, just, acceptable, but by your logic I must not divide myself from their actions & speak out or discriminate against them in any way.

We can love unconditionally & reject at the same time.

[adamsblackmore]

@detersbb you are moving off subject...the video is about sexuality and spirituality...your initial comments suggested to me that you subscribe to a divine order, in which multiple partners and homo-sexuality do not harmonize with the ideal...i know that religion through its 'holy' books promotes this divine order...but upon closer scrutiny it fails the love test...peace out

[detersbb]

@adamsblackmore

I not sure you have an understanding of what love is & may well be confusing love with lust, but that is fine, we will just agree to disagree.

[adamsblackmore]

@detersbb so the 'holy' book says, homo-sexuality is an abomination...is this the divine order you are speaking about? murder, rape and theft etc. are obviously not expressions of love...my understanding of unconditional love is the law of allowance within the boundaries of causing no harm to another...maybe i am mis-understanding the point you are trying to make? namaste

[detersbb]

@adamsblackmore

Homosexuality is out of harmony with the divine order of things.

"murder, rape and theft etc. are obviously not expressions of love" But they are. There are among us those who love death, love blood sacrifice, love pedophilia, love stealing the wealth of others-the wealth of businesses, the wealth of city, counties, nations. Do not be mistaken on this as an expression of love-albiet it perverted.

Love unconditionally all you like, but live in harmony with the divine order

[adamsblackmore]

@detersbb why is homo-sexuality out of harmony? who told you this? are you religious? i can relate to the video because i was once a fundamental christian...if you are a bible believing christian then i would recommend some further investigation into the origins and claims of the 'holy bible'...you might get a shock...namaste

[detersbb]

@adamsblackmore

Just exactly how is homosexuality in harmony & in harmony with what?

I have no affiliation with fundamental christianity-I jettisoned that silly system years ago when I was told to avoid the apocryphal books b/c they were of the devil & stay away from astrology, numerology, tarot, & Kabbalah b/c they were of the devil too.

I have investigated sex & sexuality to great depths expended 1,000 hours at least studying the subject-I know & stand by what I said as correct.

Cheers.

[adamsblackmore]

@detersbb so where is your new found belief system coming from? i am curious...it sounds religious to me...peace out

[detersbb]

@adamsblackmore

So rather than attempt to justify homosexuality, you seek to discredit by tagging my system as religious? That's cool, that's fine.

Cheers.

[adamsblackmore]

@detersbb it doesn't need justifying...what needs justifying is why homo-sexuality is discriminated against...it sounds like your system has brought you to the conclusion that homo-sexuality is a moral choice and not a natural instinct...in my experience it is the conditioning and dogma of religious texts that propagates this kind of hatred...claims to divine moral authority always come from the limited human perspective...one love

[detersbb]

@adamsblackmore

It matter not whether homosexuality is a conscious choice or a genetic predisposition both of what happen as far as I can tell.

I discriminate against everything that is out of harmony with the divine order, laws of nature & of the universe or cosmos-any way you want to call it. Taking a stand against speaking out against hardly constitutes hatred. Trying to keep the very fabric of society, civilization & humanity together, intact for the good of all is hardly hatred.

[detersbb]

@adamsblackmore

I know that will respond homosexuality hardly threatens the fabric of society-but that is where you are wrong-Sodom & Gommarah, The Tower of Babel, Noah's Flood, if not biblically inclined-Babylon, Greece, Rome, Europe, Soon The Vatican will have all collapsed as these societies have embraced sexual depravity.

It is an incontestable fact time & time again that as sex becomes abused & mis-used the society is on the clock & will fail. There are but a few of the examples of this

[adamsblackmore]

@detersbb i knew it...your wasting my time...you are quoting the frickun 'bible'...have a nice day

[detersbb]

@adamsblackmore

"...if not biblically inclined-Babylon, Greece, Rome, Europe, Soon The Vatican will have all collapsed as these societies have embraced sexual depravity."

" if not biblically inclined-Babylon, Greece, Rome, Europe, Soon The Vatican will have all collapsed as these societies have embraced sexual depravity."

"So rather than attempt to justify homosexuality, you seek to discredit by tagging my system as religious? That's cool, that's fine."

I gave non-biblical examples.

[detersbb]

@adamsblackmore wrote, "i knew it...your wasting my time...you are quoting the frickun 'bible'"

Now who is the one that is filled with hatred?

Now who is the one who standing for division?

Now who is the one embracing discrimination?

Curious, your calls for no division, discrimination, hatred supporting your preferred position are great, but dissolve the minute you are confronted with positions to the contrary?

Now you understand unconditional love, but division/discrimination can co-exist

[adamsblackmore]

@detersbb you are playing games...i am not filled with any of the above...was just trying to get a straight answer as to why sexuality within the boundary of loving human expression whether gay or straight is judged by people like your self to be wrong...sodom and gommarah, tower of babel and noah's flood are myths...why are you complicating the issue...peace

[adamsblackmore]

@detersbb comment removed because you realised how much of an arse you are being...just checked your site and spotted 'lenon honor' as one of your recommendations...hmmm...had some equally frustrating back and forths with him too...why you can't just straight talk is strongly suggesting to me that you prefer the mind games...ahhh well your call...peace out dude

[detersbb]

@adamsblackmore

I removed the comment b/c it did not convey what I sought to express.

Is this discussion for you-name calling, guilt by association, accusations w/o support? I am trying to have the discussion on the subject & you are avoiding the topics I raise.

That is fine. I have never found anyone that has delved to the very deepest levels on the justness & correctness of homosexuality & within 1-10 posts turned illogical & foul. I was not expecting that here.

Peace to you.

[adamsblackmore]

@detersbb absolutely no dislogic or foul at play here..i will try to put it as simply and as logically as i can..consensual and solitary sex is natural, instinctual, healthy, pleasurable and trancendental..religions and so called 'holy' books have attempted to attach guilt to a normal function of sentient life..if and when you break free of the control mechanisms that these monstrous personality splitting twisted imposter guilt belief systems use to enslave humans..sexuality just is..peace out

[detersbb]

@adamsblackmore

You wrongly see restraint in engaging in sexual activity as control. Did we not already cover what happens when all restraint all inhibition is lost, when orgies & polygamy become common place, when homosexuality is routine, when pedophilia runs rampant, when bestiality & BDSM are celebrated down comes greece, down comes rome, down comes the vatican dome.

So many societies have imploded from sexual misuse.

Call it natural? What is natural about un-sustainability?

[DogsneedpIeasuretoo]

@detersbb

"Comes greece, down comes rome, down comes the vatican dome."←Those places collapsed for many other reasons, blaming sexual orientation and preferences for their collapse is naive.

[detersbb]

@adamsblackmore

There is sustainable sexuality-homosexuality is not part of this. Neither are polygamy, bestiality, or any form of the BDSM.

Sexuality is natural when pure and there is too much to that to get into in 500 characters. When sexuality is tainted by desire, lust, passion, primal urges, infatuation even if by man & wife-that sexuality is impure, un-natural-carnal rather than divine-trancendental? No degenerative. The "love" & sex life will prove to be un-sustainable.

[adamsblackmore]

@detersbb omg...you are into some weird shit dude..i left all this bullshit behind for a very good reason..you are completely missing any of the points i am attempting to make..if you are gonna start talking angels and demons wtf? ascendant masters? are you refering to jesus by any chance? because that will spiral into a world of craziness bro..i quote "When sexuality is tainted by desire, lust, passion, primal urges, infatuation"..talk about party pooper and laying on the guilt bro!!! peace out

[detersbb]

@adamsblackmore

Just remember it was you who called names, cussed multiple times, and quit any discussion on this topic. Just exactly as I predicted you would.

Funny how it is acceptable for you to talk about transcendence, but I can not evoke anything spiritual. Sure seems a lot like your claim that in speaking out against I am divisive, discriminatory, hateful & need to be more tolerant accepting etc...

I am not much of a cake fan, so you have your cake & eat it too.

[adamsblackmore]

@detersbb you're doing it again..who says cussing is a sin? RELIGION..who says same sex is a sin? RELIGION..passion - perfectly healthy and normal..desire - perfectly healthy and normal..primal urges - perfectly healthy and normal..quote "Funny how it is acceptable for you to talk about transcendence, but I can not evoke anything spiritual."..why do you get to define spirituality..everything you have presented smells of RELIGION..its twisted..i cannot emphasise enough my contempt for it..peace

[detersbb]

@adamsblackmore

It is unsustainable b/c it lacks a proper spiritual foundation-it is a foundation built upon the sand rather upon solid sound sturdy ground i.e. the rock.

When the excitement of the act dies down, when the fire goes out of the sex-the un-sustainability will reveal itself.

The "love" will reveal itself as lust-as love-true love is eternal-beyond time & restraint.

Sexuality is...Yes, but it is divine or demonic. It yields angels if it is supra-sex or demons if it is infra-sex

[detersbb]

No, No games. I just expose the logical fallacy of demanding universal tolerance, acceptance, & celebration of homosexuality (or anything that is to your personal policy preference) only to oppose, resist, and obstruct rejection of homosexuality (or anything that is to your personal policy preference) calling it divisive, discriminatory, & hateful

Asserting a personal preference as a absolute standard, rather than an absolute standard as an absolute standard is divisive & discriminatory itself

[Uberware]

@detersbb: You will feel different as you learn to just let things be the way they are in life. :) Most people learn this, but it may take a lifetime for some.

[detersbb]

@Uberware

In time you will find it is you who will learn of the error of your post. Just let be is not something any spiritual leader, saint, prophet, or ascended master has done.

Everyone of these came & spread a message-not to take arms or use force to force others to live in harmony with the divine order of things, but the consequences of not living in harmony & how to live in harmony.

Not one of these just let it be so far as speaking out against & that is all I have done & will do.

[Uberware]

@detersbb: I think we misunderstood each other. Accept sexual preferences, skin colours and every other thing that people feel threatened by. That was what I was trying to express. Not to do nothing to make the world better. :)

[detersbb]

@Uberware

I don't care about physical features. I do not care about intention, ethnicity, or even sexual preference. What I care about is action & the fruits of those action-You shall know them by their fruits-if you are biblically inclined.

Karma, the Law of Cause & Effect, reaping what is sown, ill advised action reaps ill advised consequences.

This is what I speak out about. These wrong actions will result in future pain & suffering for self & others due to our interconnectedness.