D-Day - The Battle Of Normandy - Part 3 of 4

[bernegozzi12]

A Holanda pouco fez pelos judeus, o país que mais demonstrou compaixão pelos judeus foi a República Checa, infelizmente eles próprios foram muito maltratados pelos nazistas. Mas seus partizans foram formidáveis guerreiros.

[atochaful]

actually.. Hitler and Gerring's, poor management of their assets.. was the demise of the Luftwaffe

[STOPTHEEU]

@atochaful Not 100%. Oh and its Goering not Gerring. :-)

[kamsahamneda]

Lets remember the 400,000 British, 300,000 US and 9 million Russian dead soldiers of WW2. Their spirit lives on.

[HistoriCall1]

Brèche de Colleville-Montgomery de 05.55 à 05.59: débarquement du

1er BFMC du commandant Kieffer.

[LondonForever75]

Can I just say, it was the RAF that crippled the Luftwaffe, not the American P-51's and Thuderbolts. The Hurricanes and the Spitfire fighters were the original battle heroes. The P-51's were great fighters but didn't make an impact until later on in the war. On D-Day, the brits had almost completely wiped out the Luftwaffe so air supremeracy had been achieved already.

[RonnieL1969]

@LondonForever75 It was both American and British planes that crippled the Luftwaffe.

[STOPTHEEU]

@RonnieL1969 I am sorry but that simply isn't true. There were some American planes used by the RAF at one point but I think we should go of the nationality of the Pilots not the planes....

In which case its Britain, Canadian and Polish that destroyed the Luftwaffe.

[bleushift]

@LondonForever75 well yeah the raf gave the luftwaffe the knockout

but in ww2 there was no such thing as we did this or we did that

everybody of the allies was 1

and btw in the battle of holland

the dutch shot down over 5oo german aircraft

wich weakened it before the battle of britain even began

[STOPTHEEU]

@bleushift Well thats a great achievement but 500 compared to the mass of aircraft the Nazis had and the advances they made is very little.

Don't get me wrong. The Dutch resistance were brave men and it was Amsterdam that was the only city to for a big protest against the deportation of Jews. OZO!

Radio Orange. Radio Orange moved to Britain for the duration of the war.

[bleushift]

@LondonForever75 but in the end

The allies together

killed the luftwaffe

[STOPTHEEU]

@bleushift The vast majority was British, Canadian and Polish that destroyed the Luftwaffe.

[STOPTHEEU]

@LondonForever75 That is very true and also many over look the battle of the Atlantic. It was Britain that destroyed most if not all of Germanys biggest ships and subs. It was also Britain that destroyed the huge dock at France which forced Tirpitz to Norway Which meant that she never destroyed a single allied ship. :-)

It was also Britain/Czechs that assassinated Hiedrich.

It was also Britain which kept most of Europes resistances armed.

RULE BRITANNIA!

[ironhorzmn]

@LondonForever75 The Luftwaffe was not completely neutralized until the P-51 Mustangs and P-47 Thunderbolts, with the addition of external fuel tanks ('drop tanks') were able to escort Allied bombers to and from their targets.

This accounted for many seasoned German pilots, forcing the Luftwaffe to waste ill-trained replacements and the destruction of aircraft plants and facilities hastened ultimate Allied air superiority in time for D-Day.

[mkeogh76]

@ironhorzmn You're correct. The P-51 forced the Germans to withdraw fighter groups to Germany and away from the battlefields of Russia and France to protect the Reich against American bombers. Luftwaffe fighter losses over Germany trying to penetrate the fighter escort screens of the bombers is what truly crippled it. If Germany did not have to use so many fighters for home defense then the Allies would have had a much tougher time gaining air superiority over Normandy.

[ironhorzmn]

@mkeogh76 But let's give credit where due.

The RAF was the first force (and the only one for quite a while) that were able to fight Hitler to a standstill.

The Battle of Britain arguably may well have been the real turning point of WWII in Europe.