Exploring Tesla's Wireless Power Transmission Sys

[killerbee04x]

LOL OLD SCHOOL. THEY USE LASERS AS the coils in the airforce. They used hot airbloons before that. Now we have Harrp and beoing airbloons. The bloons collect the suns energy and relay them to Harrp. Harrp then uses Lasers to power anything. they bounce the signal off the atmosphere then back to a target. Mainly subs. Now UVA's. what would happen if the water in front of a sub was negitively charge and the sub positively charged. It would act like a magnet. the water would become less dense too.

[TheKaos90]

I have a (maybe stupid) question : I know Tesla knew a way to isolate a frequency and "suck" all the energy transmitted on that frequency with minimum losses ; could we use that system to "tune in" the Earth's EMF frequency (~8.6 Hz) or the cosmic radiant energy ? I think the Joule thief is a resonant circuit that may learn us some about that

[htjoe2]

You think the Navy could use the ELF in the same way? A low Hz might give it more range huh?

[Jonnys00007]

ahahahahhaahh wow this system he uses has no loses .. infact over unity from neutrino absorption... so im just wonderings does anyone know how many turn that secondary is and also the wire length i know it it supposed to be half a wavelength .... but i need dimensions lol

[mujaku]

Still modern science doesn't believe that electricity can be transmitted either using the earth, water or the atmosphere as a medium. Tesla proved at long time ago it could easily be done.

[mike23lee]

@mujaku Tesla had marvelous claims and experiments, but so far his work has never been duplicated. Peer review and replication is an important part of the scientific process. We're gonna have to wait till someone replicates his work and shows it to be practical and economical; until then, it can't be certain that Tesla really "proved" much. I'm hopeful, though!

[mujaku]

@mike23lee I am not aware of researchers attempting to duplicate his experiments finding them to be unworkable. The best way to deal with Tesla if you dislike his theories is to ignore him—this is what most of the academic scientific community has done IMO. Also keep in mind that so-called "peer review" is little more than "incestuous amplification" to use an Army term. :)

[mike23lee]

@mujaku "incestuous amplification" - so the scientific community dogmatically keeps only the ideas it agrees with, never challenging anything?

I'm probably naive, but I still think that Academia retains some integrity.

[mujaku]

@mike23lee When it comes to cosmology if you go against the big bang theorists, as a professor you'll probably never get tenure—you might even lose your job. If you can please check out the 'Big bang never happened' on YouTube. It seems the pro-bangers can't tolerate paradigm shifts.

[mike23lee]

@mujaku I began to watch it, but I couldn't get past 56 seconds without scientific inaccuracy. It said that the Big Bang was a "violent explosion," but the Big Bang was a "uniform expansion" of a single, extremely dense and hot state. And the description was wrong also- it said that there is no evidence for evolution. There is; that statement is denialism. (I'll send you a run-down of the evidence in a private message).

As for professors losing their jobs (here, you begin to sound too much like

[mike23lee]

@mujaku ...Ben Stein lol) I haven't heard of any cases in which this happened, and for all I know, if it did happen, the cases could have been misinterpreted. Again, I didn't watch the whole video, so maybe there will be some accounts of suppression on there. But if they were fired, then their schools had the right to fire them if they were teaching something that wasn't agreed to be true based on the evidence.

wait, in the last comment I said no evidence for Evolution, my bad, I meant Big Bang.

[EmperorofCartoons]

@mujaku Science is the new religion. I've said this for years. Its become so obsessed with status quo and dogma that to go against it has become the scientific equivalent of blasphemy. And this is coming from someone who really doesn't put much stock in radical pseudo science either.

Its a pity we cant go back to the early 20th century's attitude towards science and advancement. It was truly a golden age.

[spark300c]

for Mobile machines it better than cable. I wounder if any thought of transmitting power to crane this way.

[primusroma]

4° the electricity come from the cable fixed to the water..that's all ...no scalar wave, no really wireless trasmission of Tesla...Mey produce just a toys for make money...

[mike23lee]

@primusroma I'm not an expert, and I agree that scalar waves are a pseudoscience, but wasn't a "condensator" (did you mean condenser or capacitor?) how Tesla's wireless transmission would work?

I mean, my understanding was that, in place of the wire and water, Tesla planned for the Earth to be used as a conductor.

Agian, I'm not an expert and you probably know more about this than me.

[primusroma]

3° in fact there'is a cable (only one cable conductor for alternative current is sufficient) from the transmitter direct to the pool...the coil fixed on the boat is not a really scalar wave receveir but is just a condensator..the electricity come from the cable fixed to the water..that's all ...no scalar wave, no really wireless trasmission of Tesla...Mey produce just a toys for make money...

[primusroma]

2° I accept to buy it for investigation on it because i'm research the truth and so I make my owner test on it....in this case the boat on the video is moved from electricity..yes..but it come from the water..

[primusroma]

1° Disgusting fake of Konstantin Meyl! I'm italian resercher of soppressed Tesla tecnology and I've meet Meyl in his privite home for have further information about this sistem. He sold me his "demonstration kit" of scalar wave at the "chipper" cost of 800 euro..

[AdobePhsyko]

Tesla goes on the short list with DaVinci , Einstein and NOBODY

[oscarnine2]

So can this be scaled up? Can you hook a 1mw generator to it and send power over distances? If so how great a distance can the power be sent?

[nckeller]

Does anyone know where to obtain the schematic and PC boards used in this demo?

[zackaryhill]

no its a neutrino resonance oscillation being slowed down so use as a power source via scalar waves ,,,, im buildingthis right now ... i got that book its the shit

[Anothercoilgun]

SEC baby.

[XANDERXXZ]

Whats the efficientsy.

[fusebox41]

Has anyone heard of quantum radio yet or am I too far in the past for that. In the future we communicate via quantum transmissions across the galaxy in real time.

Oops. Did I say that outloud? Uhm I don't think you guys are supposed to know about that yet.

hmmmm....

Hope this doesn't screw things up.

[fusebox41]

Uhhhh just disregard that last comment. Obviously I must be mistaken, or just mentally disturbed. As far as anyone knows.

[fusebox41]

It's definately something to think about though. As is Tachion amplification, focusing and acceleration which leads to time shifting.

Damnit I think I did it again. I wonder if the elders will punish me for this.

Naaaa.... no-one would ever believe that anyways so I think I'm safe to mention it here.

[fusebox41]

Oh yea one more thing. Manipulation of gravity waves is a very important part of the future of space travel for humans. Has anyone messed with that yet?

[brianmenendez]

@fusebox41 LOL, r u having fun with the conversation you are having all by yourself? I believe you man!

[CharlesHrodric]

@fusebox41 Hey pal My stardate is reading 11105.21 right now. Am I correct? If not I think I may be trapped in a paradox between my universe and yours. Can you please help me out? Is there any red antimater near your home. I need it for my flux capacitor to initiate the warp machine on my vessel. Thank you. Live long and prosper.

[CharlesHrodric]

@fusebox41 Hey pal My stardate is reading 11105.21 right now. Am I correct? If not I think I may be trapped in a paradox between my universe and yours. Can you please help me out? Is there any red antimatter near your home. I need it for my flux capacitor to initiate the warp machine on my vessel. Thank you. Live long and prosper.

[MegaBogga]

with out magnetic induction are there other usable ways of transmitting power.

I've seen people do it at much grater distances then this or Wi-tricity

[fusebox41]

Well Tesla said it can be done with extremely high frequency ac current on a carrier wave kind of like radio waves

[htjoe2]

@fusebox41 Tachion amplification...going to have to read about that. Quick question could you transmit with say the Navy's ELF system?

[xrayrep]

There's no such thing as "gravity waves". What sci-fi magazines have you been reading? Gravity is warped space-time created by all massive objects (even your very tiny brain).

[raoullevrai]

There is no proof for warped space-time either...I htink some scientists are indded looking for "gravitons" in the super colliders.

[Karma01010]

Cyberlord64, I was actually talking about energy waste, not waste of progress. On the latter, I totally agree with you, and I also agree that small scale / short range wireless power could be very useful. I only argue against the naive "power cities by radio waves" crowd.

[Karma01010]

@RobinNishi. What is wrong with you tesla fanboys? You don't understand simple geometry. Wireless signals spread out. Only a tiny proportion of the transmitted waves will hit receiving antennas. The waves that do NOT hit antennas (i.e. most of them) are NOT received, they go to waste. Duh.

[trashmail8]

Let me quote special behaviors of scalar wave/longitudinal transmission, which Tesla used, from a presentation by the German Prof. Dr.-Ing. Konstantin Meyl. Google "Meyl shows Tesla longitudinal electricity 2003"

"3. No losses, as all field lines are bundled up" (9m0s)

"6. Reaction of the receiver back to the transmitter" (9m56s)

"7. Inefficiency of Faraday cage to shield scalar waves" (9m56s)

"8. Laws of square distance without validity" (9m56s)

[MDSVes]

so I guess sun light goes to waste if it does not hit the earth.

[C2XThunder]

ok...so why cant the top 25 engineers get together to put this together and get free electicity to the world? sure money can be made....all homes will have to buy the antena and power reciever....much like the cable co. and cable boxes. $1000 a set up and you get free electicity for life

[Karma01010]

@C2XThunder

How much of the transmitted radio waves will hit antennas, and how much will NOT hit antennas and go to waste. THINK!

"Wireless Power" is a ridiculously inefficient and wasteful method of electrical distribution.

[wolfekeeper]

Nope, you've fundamentally not understood what they're doing.

It's not radio waves as you would think of it; it's near field, non radiative power.

Near field waves don't propagate.

It's the same way that inductors work; inductors store energy in a local magnetic field, and radiate hardly any of it.

This is similar; it just that it taps the energy a few feet away. It does that by absorbing the energy via resonance.

[RobinNishi]

You're fucking retarded. Honestly. "Go to waste"? You know absolutely nothing of what you're talking about.

[cyberlord64]

no science progress goes to waste. when lasers were first invented they had absolutely no application until years later they were used in cd drivers. wireless energy may not be excactly ideal to power your house but it could be used in a smaller scale. wireless powered computer peripherals (mouses, storage devices, cameras) for example would be very usefull.

[leerman22]

@Karma01010 A tesla coil sends electricity, not magnetic fields or radiation. The only obstacle would be the resistance of the air and ground. Also energy hogs (jackasses) might pile up by the transmitters, stopping the energy from traveling far. Higher voltages like a billion volts may overcome the resistance of the air.

[iRobii]

@Karma01010 You dont seem to understand how it works. The tesla coil could use a receiver working at the same frequency "leading" all the charge to it.

[moonymannnn]

search : Solar Highway Inductive Coupling

[TheHappydead]

so let me get this straight tesla invented nearly 100 yrs ago a way to transfer energy wirelessly. where is the energy coming from i.e is it from a source like a battery and then its being wirelessly transmitted or is the energy being plucked out the atmosphere/ ionisphere ?

is this free energy ? is what im asking

[fusebox41]

Nope, not free energy. It has to be generated first and then it can be transmitted.

[djcrashuk]

this is awsome to be able to recharge my cellphone and notbook wirelessly :) if only there was wireless fibre optics

[fusebox41]

Well, we won't need wireless fiber optics when they perfect quantum communications. It will be like real time radio. Instantaneous transmission of signals across the entire universe, woot! You can talk to your mother in law on Mars or anywhere else in the universe in real time with no delay! Awesome! That's a long ways off though. But they have teleported photons this way already though so maybe not TOO far in the future we will have something like that. Next several generation I imagine.

[fusebox41]

BTW have you seen the commercial on Adult Swim about the wireless charging technology where they say the word Fu^%ing in every sentence? So wireless charging of cellphones and laptops is already here and on the market.

[fusebox41]

So to the naysayers I say Fu%^ you! It's already here. Ha!

[zeropointprophet]

where can get free plans to build this? id like to try it fantastic job!! 5 stars

[boxa888]

i think very soon too if people wake up! people forget nikola tesla already stated that the energy waves he created went 2-100 times faster than light and thats how you would get instant communication accross the universe! tesla also made contact with intelligent beings somewhere out there in 1901! its really amazing we could have had instantaneous communication 100 yrs ago! also i have proved teslas wireless energy transfer on the earth wire model like wardenclyffe, i could aready be going fast

[HighCardWins]

Teleportation works because of quantum entanglement. It's not a signal traveling faster than light. You would need to rewrite the laws of physics.

Where did Tesla say he contacted aliens?

[boxa888]

tesla gave an article to the times magazine and talked of the intelligent pulses recieved at colorado springs, its on the net somewhere but yea, even in the colorado springs notes he talks of some of this too. well tesla made energy go like 2 - 100 times faster than light, some quantum tunneling scientist of today would say thats what quantum tunneling is, if energy is instantly being telelported to another area then it would be going infinitly faster than light. i put up a ton of info...

[HighCardWins]

What kind of energy did he make travel faster than light?

Energy isn't being teleported to another place. The way "Star Trek" teleportion would work is that the original you would be destroyed and a new you be reassembled on the other end. You would be a copy of your former self, made from energy that is in that new place. Not the same you in a different location. Aleast your atoms wouldn't be the same exact atoms. It would take an extreme amount of information to reform you. Continued...

[HighCardWins]

But it could done. It has to do with superpostion and quantum entanglement. That's how we would know how to reform you somewhere else.

Kinda makes me wonder if you would be you or something else. Since we can't find consciousness in the body. Would it be reformed too on the other end?

We are a long way from that though.

[HighCardWins]

I don't think so.

I saw a demo of this on TED. They convert the electrical energy to a magnetic field then back. They explained that that is what transformers do already. They just found a way to separate the coils but the same process occurs. It is called Wi-tricity.

[akademiker23]

whats the maximum range of this devices? scalarwaves have no rangelimit afaik

[pleasureincontempt]

semi-viable on a small scale. too inefficient. currently (no pun intended) there's at least a 15% loss during transfer. anyone remember we're undergoing an energy crisis?

[wolfekeeper]

Power lines and so forth are about 90% efficient. at getting power to the consumer.

[RavenPrecept]

Could be handy for portable devices.

[xrebxtoc]

@pleasureincontempt Use that for electric cars. Then your battery pack can be sized to 15 KW or so (to get you to the main freeways of course).Think about the efficiency of a gas engine. about 9% of use-able energy comes out of a modern petrol engine (that's tank >>> wheel not Oil reserve >> wheel)... also a WHOLE lot of carbon comes out.Usually electric motors are in the range of 90-95% efficiency.After the energy scale conversion you would come in around 70-80% efficiency power plant >>> wheel

[xrebxtoc]

@pleasureincontempt Not too mention using nuclear power (which is the "greenest" viable Carbon free source of electricity generation) to power this. I'd say after all this work your set! Infrastructure would cost quite a bit. However you don't need refueling stations for hydrogen (useless) or oil (carbon packed) or even battery charging stations. You just drive and go... no line ups. Very few break downs (most motors have less than 10 moving parts).Little maintenance and most important clean air

[PizzaFactoryOcala]

Not likely. Wireless transmission of electrical current really exists. I've done experiments with to some small degree of success. It all has to do with frequency matching just like your radio transmitter and receiver. Read some of Nikola Tesla's patents

[kousoulides]

They hide batteries into the boat!

[proverb311031]

We could of had it back in Tesla time, but the Electricty Comnpanies did not see a way to charge us, so they did everything that they could to stop wireless electricty. We have been poluting our envirment for no good reason just so that a few greedy companies could make every larger profits. This technology is over 80 years old, its funny how we have to keep going back to the past to save ourselves from polluting ourselves out of existence!

[iJul1609]

We could power UAVs that way...keep them in the air for days...

[PizzaFactoryOcala]

That was one of Tesla's visions of how the future should be I believe.

[serenityx1989]

tesla ist ein genie

[Indigineous]

We are really just scratching the surface of what Tesla did almost a hundred years ago, its very sad to see how little we have actually progressed in the way of electricity. Money and greed won out over invention and ingenuity.

[fusebox41]

How absolutely true. But I believe they've made more advances using Tesla's ideas than we really know about. They're just keeping it a secret. If the general public knew how to generate large amounts of power with hardly any effort the world economy would crash. But that would be a good thing in my opinion because the changes that follow would be tremendously beneficial to humanity as a whole. Not to mention our precious little planet.

[Indigineous]

You hit the nail on the head.....they have to have more of this technology shelved and are only releasing it a bit at a time.....

[kja5]

The reason this technology was never used is because you can't make a profit off of free wireless electricity.

[jmm1233]

time for to put it to the test with some robots ,

[fusebox41]

Yea I agree

[etiennealive]

The only reason why it isn't on the market... yet is becouse gouverments/banks can't tax such a system... !

[kbsizer]

Precisely. That was Tesla's big blind spot. He couldn't appreciate why neither Westinghouse nor J.P.Morgan nor anyone else would be willing to finance a system for giving away electrical power.

[etiennealive]

That's why my idea is to make the whireless transmittingsystem work in your property and not the property of the gouverment , that means a system that works for real estate in all sorts of form. That way you dont nead to be taxed, becouse you don't use their property.

[wrw166]

also couldn't see the subterfuge of Morgan's protecting his investment in Edison. i.e.

if it was known that J.P.Morgan was investing in Tesla and nothing materialized out of it, then public conclusion would be that Tesla's ideas must be worthless.

[BobPaul]

@wrw166 The relationship between magnetic field strength and distance certainly can't have anything to do with the perceived worth of Tesla's ideas.

[Damanic84]

and they could not sell oil anymore...!

[etiennealive]

Not sell , not distribute , not rafine, not burn not polute, not make war to get this product,  not bring down economys who don't have or trade oil, not etc. etc. etc.......!

[jaydnisevil]

Or companies attach a meter to it..

And thats a fact, when tesla was developing this system, his main sponsor pulled out because "if everybody can get it everywhere, where do we attach the meter?"

Corrupt basturds..

[sn1pe352]

Anyone who thinks this is not real is truly a religious nutbag , meaning science is now your religion and textbook physics is the word of God. Learn to think for yourselves

[fusebox41]

hHahaha Agreed!

[sn1pe352]

Fusebox I do not like how you cut the original maker "Konstein meyl" and put up your website :/

The guy who originally made this video and its wireless transmissions deserves the credit, not only that buts its important that people visit HIS website so they can order their own test kit units, and investigate this without and obstructions (meaning with what Meyl Provides you with) because overall Meyl *The guy who originally made this video* is a complete genius and the next tesla

[tardisomga]

Hell i said learn to think for yourslefs and not from your parents to many nutters.

I mean i may be slightly religious, catholic but science changes my way every day more and more.

[suntrana]

Good to see the military uses highlighted....With any luck we can have battle bot mixmasters and human compaction devices for the nasty residue left behind. Never ends does it??? Nothing mentioned about potential life saving, just destruction...

[tabisabel]

I was gonna say that, you're right

[Alphawolfgang]

when this wireless electricity is perfected, then our military can use power suits and exoskeletons in combat... thats the only reason why we dont see some soldiers in exoskeletons because we dont have effeciant energy supplies for them, but soon they can with this wireless stuff...

[jerronimo3000]

yeah but what if the enemy can also use the same wireless power and use it to power something that would destroy the soldiers in their little suits??

[fusebox41]

Yes it is possible but Im not sure it would work in a car since you have to have an earth ground to make it work.

[whizkidsecretscom]

If this would really be possible to do, as I'm sure it is somehow, then all homes and cars would need to be powered, would be an antenna on top of them.

[Ba3dadBoy]

I don't know how this works but I don't imagine it would be able to deliver a very high power rating. Not enough to move a car, or supply a house.

And what sort of distances does this work over effieciently?

The guy at the end mentions something about induction. If that's how it works then usually power won't doesn't transmit well over distances more than a meter, if that.

Such a great idea though. Mercedes (?bmw) factory machinary are all powered through induction

[etiennealive]

Very good work !!! I'm studyng this subject now. thanks for posting. (I'm not sceptic, I know it works!)

[computersolutions164]

Would you mind telling TSPORT100 that it works please. He won't believe anyone, even thosel ike me who are qualified

[rozdani]

VERY COOL PLEASE DETAILS

[crippled82]

Konstantin Meyl's 'invention'

Maybe the current is going trough earth and water and not trough the air.

Hang the boat on a rope to eliminate groudncurrents (?) and test it again.

[LoKi6922]

Wireless power is real. It was invented over a century ago by Tesla, along with radio communication, AC current and many other things that have made all of our current technology possible. None of which he actually got credit for. Look on youtube for the videos of fluorescent bulbs being lit in someones hand by a Tesla coil if you don't believe.

[crippled82]

Yeah I know :) that is because of the HF skin effect, so you won't fry.

The wireless electric field decreases over distance squared or cubed.

[tsport100]

Ever heard of propagation? 5 watts can go around the globe even with omni directional antenna! Explain that with your distance squared theory.

[crippled82]

my distance squared theory is called the inverse square law, this also applies to radio waves as to electostatic fields.

you don't agree?

[crippled82]

btw, radiowaves can go around the world because of reflection with the ionosphere.

[tsport100]

Your the one being a sceptic about a boat powered from a couple of feet away when you seem to already know 5 watts can clearly be received 10's of thousands of miles away. So what YOUR point?

BTW ionospheric 'skip' is more like signal amplification rather than just pure reflection most notably during the 11 year sun spot peak.

reflection, it's more like amplification!

[crippled82]

Aamplification, there you have it.

My point is that Meyl claims he makes use of scalar waves.

Do a google search on scalar waves.

That is what I am skeptic about.

Also interesting: watch?v=3sSwefrFu4c

there you see that power decreases over distance. Or is something else the reason for the dimming light?

[tsport100]

LOL, WTF is a scalar wave? In all my years in radio I've never heard of it! Total BS. A term only used by people who don't understand what they're talking about!

A couple of Tesla coils next to each other lighting bulbs doesn't really interest me, how about NASA sending 34kw over 1.5km @ 82.5% efficiency. watch?v=sy1vqRT-vqI

[crippled82]

You understand now why I am skeptic? :)

[lnfantryofficer]

Also see:

longitudinal EM wave, energetics, directed energy, H.A.A.R.P., Trophy Active Defense System, interferometrics, cymatics, Teslas magnifying transmitter, Tesla shield, Tesla Howitzer....

[fusebox41]

Search for "Scalar Field Theory" at wikipeidia

[tsport100]

How about "inverse square law" look that up on wikipedia. It simply explains why long range wireless power is too inefficient to be of any practical use.

This is exactly why the only successful tests have been over just 1 mile using super directional antenna. The signal strength is inversely proportional to the square of the distance. So if the same test was tried over 3 miles the efficiency would drop from 82.5% to just 9%.

[computersolutions164]

Except for Tesla wgho managed it over 15 miles and the field of lighbulbs experiment 200 in all was actually carried out and was also portrayed in the film "The Prestige", which is well worth watching. Wardenclyffe tower (Now Pearson Photographics) was 15 miles from where the experiment took place

[computersolutions164]

It is also true that the power company at the time Tesla was alive used to regularly become annoyed with him as his coils used to place heavy loads on their generating equipment. Similarly anyone who has replicated his free electricity transmisssion experiement, has either disappeared, died or been tod to cease and desist from doing so by various Government agencies - all these facts are checkable

[tsport100]

They're only checkable if you provide some names!

I can't subscribe to paranoid theories... The FACT is that according to PHYSICS radio signals reduces in power over distance due to inverse-square law. Look it up!! If Tesla managed to transmit over 15 miles with omni directional antennas you can calculate the losses yourself.... the inverse square of 15 miles!!

A system with 90% + loss is not commercially viable.

[computersolutions164]

Watch these then if you don't believe anyone

this stuff is 100 years old

watch?v=9KuRbnHoo9c

watch?v=88oWuSnrrFY&feature=re­lated

watch?v=abSScVbqxYE&feature=re­lated

watch?v=7JmpSwvcX-Q&feature=re­lated

watch?v=JBk1QFm_41s&feature=re­lated

watch?v=9ve2z1WTHpA&feature=re­lated

watch?v=Z6rL6_g1i0A&feature=re­lated

I think these will open your mind, when Tesla talks about "Wireless transmission of energy", He did not mean "Wireless" in the sense that you do and that is why you are wrong !

[computersolutions164]

You wanted names how about "Jim Murray" he worked with some of Tesla's colleaugues and demonstrated that a lot of his work was correct, including "The Synchronous Capacitor", "Non-Linear Resonant Systems", you are talking about "Linear Systwem Physics", typical texbook stuff. This is not that. You also might want to look up Scalar Wave Theory on Wiki, all the maths is there and he demonstrated this as a means on radio control long before Marconi did

[computersolutions164]

No one ever said that there would be no losses, what is being said is that it was done with reasonable efficiency and could be proven to work heres the link to the first of 10 sequential videos with photos really worth watching and if you still point blank refuse to believe any then then there is no helping you.

watch?v=9KuRbnHoo9c PART 1

[computersolutions164]

Look up Scalar wave theory on Wiki all the math is there and it does work too and I am also involved with radio G7HMJ

[tsport100]

I'm sure you believe in UFOs and the loch Ness monster too...

Unless you can show me a REAL WORLD example of what-ever you're babbling about.... it's just BS pure and simple!

The REAL WORLD example I quote is Bill Brown at NASA Goldstone? 1 Mile is the world record for wireless power transmission... if you have a better example lets have it!

[computersolutions164]

I rather get the feeling that you have either never heard of Tesla looked at or demonstrated any of his work. It was actually proved in court that he was the inventor of radio, and the honour now goes to him as he predates Marconi - look it up and it is also now a legal fact in the intrernational courts. That said why are you so insistent that you apply linear maths to non-linear electrical systems. Did you watch the videos I sent on Jim Murray and Tesla. Did you learn anything from them ?

[tsport100]

That's it.... avoid answering the question....!!!!

I know ALL ABOUT Tesla and loons like you who day-dream about all the stuff he never proved...

I don't have time to watch a load of BS you tube videos....

Give me one documented case where the crap you're talk has been proved... You simply can't because no such proof exists...

END OF STORY!

[computersolutions164]

Actually I was not avoiding the question at all it's just that such breathtaking arrogance pisses me off no end, when I am the one who actually holds a qualification in this field. I do not know how to prove it to you and no I am have not seen a real world example. However the closest I can get is if you care to put in WIRELESS ENERGY TRANSFER into WIKI and look at the 2008 entry under the history at the top of the page. It looks like Intel have duplicated and thus proved Tesla correct !

[tsport100]

As predicted.... there's more evidence of god than what you profess to be true..

Where's the courage of your convictions.... use your know all qualifications and go build something to prove it...

Otherwize, seriously... you're just talking shit !!!

Good luck.

[computersolutions164]

And I am presuming therefore that this example uses all the common principles of radio - Yawn

Tesla was not trying to do this, He was exciting the ionosphere by putting a small amount of power in and tapping the much larger pulse of energy coming back, somewhere else which is wireless transmnission on a truly global scale, nothing to do with a one mile power transmitter.

Finance and idiots like JP Morgan put a stop to it when they found out what Tesla was up to. JP also had interests in RCA

[boxa888]

hey if you want some clarification of teslas real system head over to my site, i did alot of reseach about his tower. this tower was going to be an industrial power plant and the first internet ever in history. it forced energy through the earth at resonant frequencies and the wardenclffe was to send about 1 hp to all points which is quite powerful for just that tower, later on he was going to make another tower at niagra falls to send more energy if 1 hp was not enough.

[crippled82]

I'll take a look soon.

"it forced energy _through_the_earth_!" exactly :)

Can you clarify what this has to do with meyl's and bearden's scalar waves and energy through the air?

thanks

[boxa888]

it forced the energy using high voltages to minimize resistance, the wardemnclyffe tower send 7,460,000,000 watts of energy thats 10 million horse power! equivalent to 12-100 million volts and currents from 100-1000 amps! its sweet, the resonance portion made the towers safe to allowing only other resonant towers to abosorb the industrial energy and internet without causeing harm. taking in the spherical structure of earth, the energy would go even faster than light at some distances on earth!

[computersolutions164]

Yes I know that 100mw or whatever can be picked up anywhere on the planet if your receiver is sensitive enough or has enough RF stages at the expense of losing the gain. Yes I know all that. why do you think the Government deliberately make CB receivers as deaf as a flippin post. To make you beleive that 5 watts will only be picked up a couple of streets away. Which is untrue. This is nothing repeat nothing to do with what Tesla was doing. Intel repeated his experiment and proved it in 2008

[computersolutions164]

I just find it odd that because you do not understand non-linear scalar waver propagation or better still don't believe they exist despite being shown that they do. You just want to apply linear maths too it, which of course won't work. Mind you it probably explains why Tesla's work was so difficult to understand. Given that Einstein was a friend of his, would you say therefore that all of Einstein's work was crap too

[tsport100]

Loon!

[computersolutions164]

Well now name calling just proves that you have lost the argument. Now I will see if I can make or rather scale up the device used here. A good material might be that bendy copper heating pipe to make a planar basket coil with. Obviously the reciving coil would have to be resonant. I wonder what frequency, waveform and current would give reasonable results

[etiennealive]

Why shouldn't it work !? While we are surrounded by these changes of waves every day...... !

Turn on a radio telphone microwave what ever elektrikal equipment and you wil experience ... Changings of waves / energy, in a sertain spectrum...... So these things work (whireless transmission etc. ) get over it please. and open this closed door in your mind !

[etiennealive]

By the way also using the earth it self as "Nil"" to make the circle compleet is already in practical use here in The Netherlands for regular power circuits. If it wasn't possible whole citys would be without elektricity.

[tsport100]

Fine... if it works lets SEE it!!!!

I can prove it doesn't work... it doesn't exist ANYWHERE.

Science and Physics is not an acts of faith ok..

Happy to be proved wrong... anything less is simply idiots talking amongst themselves...

[computersolutions164]

Perhaps you should have watched the Jim Murray lectures I told you about. I have also found 10 more too, which are even more details. The Russians also used a similar system for bugging the Kremlin during the cold war a "Batteryless Bug", which only operated when a high power signal was pointed at it. The resulting voltage was then rectified and used to power the bug itself, so yes it can and was done.

G7HMJ

[tsport100]

So far you've admitted there isn't a SINGLE bit of proof to back your side of the debate so how the fuck could you ever win... LOL

Don't carry on about qualifications... you have no idea who you are talking to mate..

PROVE you are right by actually giving a practical example that isn't a 100 year old myth or there is simply nothing to be discussed....!!!

Get a life dick head.

[computersolutions164]

Ok so you don't consider the Intel example to be proof then, a multi-million pound company, then you say I do not know who I am talking too, well so what. then you say qualifications in this field are also rubbish. Then you insult me. Just out ouf curiousity is there

a) anything that will prove it to you.

b) give us the money i'll do the experiment

you're saying is that nothing will ever prove it to you be it 1 year old or 100 years old. I am aware of RMS and peak value (peak * 0.707) etc

[computersolutions164]

Ok you're the expert prove technically that that Tesla's field of bulb experiment never took place and that he never transmitted usable electrical power over 15 miles. This was actually done in Colarado Springs and is also portrayed in the film. his notes actually confirm this. Granted he used high power and phosphorescent bulbs but he proved it could be done. I suggest you watch the film "The Prestige" David Bowie makes a good job of playing him too - Tesla's bit is historically accurate.

[computersolutions164]

Totally missing the point and getting radio confused with "Wireless Energy Transmission", which Tesla did 100 years ago. Why are you confusing the two.

G7HMJ

[computersolutions164]

Oh so now you want me to actually make one, well i have made Tesla generators before using the classical "basket" coil configuration - primary, which was made tunable. the thing I find difficult with you is that this stuff was demonstarted 109 years ago, give or take a year or two, A lot of Tesla's notes are stored in a Manhattan warehouse, his wiork was seized by the CIA after his death and his family were not allowed back into his apartment. lots of stuff was taken & never returned

[fusebox41]

"Maybe the current is going trough earth and water and not trough the air."

Even if this is true how is that not awesome? There is definitely a path through ground how else would the circuit work?

The question is whether it will work over long distances

[boxa888]

yea it is awesome isnt it, did you make this?? i made some mini coils and they work like this, its pretty cool.

[heyhowami]

nope its a scaler wave it needs no circuiter

[computersolutions164]

Yes it does the earth is the other part of the circuit

[computersolutions164]

there is a circuit you are right. The cicuit is resonant with the air being used as the capacitor and the coil being tuned to create a point of resonance where if you have buit a Tesla coil you will know that you get a huge voltage increase at the point of resonance. If the earth is resonance at 6-8Hz (Schumann), then you would need a resonant circuit (coil capacitor) resonant at either the fundemental of a multiple of this frequency. the higher multiple you use the less output you will get.