I don't know much about rave and what I know about luna-c comes from his supersets, but I can listen to them for days on end and never get tired of them. Woot for Luna-c.
Smart Es damaged the hardcore scene - I should know, I was one of the 3 that made it. But to group all hardcore in with that track is to miss the point. As artists, none of us knew the track would get so huge, and we had no control over it anyway. Prodigy started as hardcore, but grew out of it, which is fair enough. All things change. :o) Luna-C
I wish I was there back in the days of the original raves, sigh, I missed so much! :D
I love Luna C's tunes... breaky and slamming as you like, with some prime samples thrown in for good measure! Smile Fuk Up, what a remix! Met him at an oldskool night last year... very safe guy and his mixing was on top form!
Makes me smile when youngsters say......sesame e street and trip to trumpton....proper old rave. Commercial piss takes that no serious raver back in the day would listen or dance to. Jungle killed it for me.....puff out your chest and show some attitude muzik. Oldskool was about come as you are, unite, smile and be happy and dance your tits off.....express yourself in dance and forget the Thatcher nightmare that we had to live thru at the time.
smart es did not tarnish hardcore but brought it to peoples attention if it were not for prodigys charley i would not known it exsisted and sesame,s treet just a novelty record urban shakedown altern 8 sl2 dj carl cox dj seduction all made the top 40 with classic tunes
wooo, wooo, wait a fucking minute, smart e's was cheesey as fuck, it took the piss out of the scene, I was there, it killed it, lost its edge, and by the way dropping pills and listenin to the smart e's tune wasnt my idea of a kickin night out, know what i mean? muppet
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Well, first off I'd like to say nice one for the sesame street tune. Nice one for killing the whole Rave scene in one foul swoop. That was the biggest pile of shit ever recorded - it killed what is know as these days, the oldskool hardcore era. And thats a fact. And as for that Happy Hardcore...absolute shite. Rubbish. No style, no class. So there ya go Luna C. stick that in your happy hardcore pipe and smoke it. YOUR SHIT.
SwiftScoobyC Smart E's didnt kill the hardcore scene u muppet. Hardcore was at its prime 91-96 ... it faded like ALL music scenes do with time as did the 70s/80s etc. Hardcore (oldskool hardcore not the shite we got today such as scooter & co) was NOT commercial, it was underground, only towards the the end of the hardcore scene did popular DJ's/groups (such as seduction/prodigy) go commercial as thats where the £ was. Get ya facts right you retard, u know fk all about oldskool by the sounds ;)
Get off ya soapbox you dick, oh and by the way, dont give it large from behind a screen number 1. I'll talk to you, but dont give it the big one, as regards to the hardcore scene, I was there buddy, right up the pointed end ok my son, Camden Palace, Astoria, Paradise Club and all the major events through 91-94 so kiss my oldskool raving arse.
how is prodigy even remotly hardcore their closer to d&b or grime in my epinion with the exeption of outerspace wich has elements of hardcore. just take voodoo people totaly d&b. i count prodigy as the godfaters of d&b. although i supose you could class them as the darkest, grimiest form of hardcore
setamonkey; they are talking about oldskool hardcore; old prodigy is a decent example of oldskool hardcore (but there is better ^_~)
i don't know year markers, but once the oldskool sound started dabbling in adding 4 beat kick drums with the breaks, experimenting in the banging piano lines, and then the pitched up vocals; early hhc started developing. another side shifted more towards keeping it dark, hard, stabby, and raw as shite, and thus early jungle started developing.
Lawl you act like Scooter is hardcore still, They haven't been for 10 years. And you really think Darwin, Orbit 1, Reese, Kurt etc. all put out bad tracks?
I don't know much about rave and what I know about luna-c comes from his supersets, but I can listen to them for days on end and never get tired of them. Woot for Luna-c.
holeeray 1 year ago
Smart Es damaged the hardcore scene - I should know, I was one of the 3 that made it. But to group all hardcore in with that track is to miss the point. As artists, none of us knew the track would get so huge, and we had no control over it anyway. Prodigy started as hardcore, but grew out of it, which is fair enough. All things change. :o) Luna-C
Crult99 2 years ago
You should not regret Smart E's. It had its place in hardcore history. Good work.:)
OldYank1 2 years ago
That piano progression tune is unreal, the piano at the start is amazing wish i could play like that, i gotta learn :)
davieboy198607 2 years ago
I wish I was there back in the days of the original raves, sigh, I missed so much! :D
I love Luna C's tunes... breaky and slamming as you like, with some prime samples thrown in for good measure! Smile Fuk Up, what a remix! Met him at an oldskool night last year... very safe guy and his mixing was on top form!
Nice one Mr. Howell!
RudryDJ 2 years ago 5
Makes me smile when youngsters say......sesame e street and trip to trumpton....proper old rave. Commercial piss takes that no serious raver back in the day would listen or dance to. Jungle killed it for me.....puff out your chest and show some attitude muzik. Oldskool was about come as you are, unite, smile and be happy and dance your tits off.....express yourself in dance and forget the Thatcher nightmare that we had to live thru at the time.
cloudgroover 3 years ago 2
i'm much more of a jungle bod
(check my library!)
BUT this tune does just smash it,
i gotta admit, large in a big kind of way.
ninokawasaki 3 years ago
smart es did not tarnish hardcore but brought it to peoples attention if it were not for prodigys charley i would not known it exsisted and sesame,s treet just a novelty record urban shakedown altern 8 sl2 dj carl cox dj seduction all made the top 40 with classic tunes
s1977spw 3 years ago 3
wooo, wooo, wait a fucking minute, smart e's was cheesey as fuck, it took the piss out of the scene, I was there, it killed it, lost its edge, and by the way dropping pills and listenin to the smart e's tune wasnt my idea of a kickin night out, know what i mean? muppet
SwiftScoobyC 3 years ago 2
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Well, first off I'd like to say nice one for the sesame street tune. Nice one for killing the whole Rave scene in one foul swoop. That was the biggest pile of shit ever recorded - it killed what is know as these days, the oldskool hardcore era. And thats a fact. And as for that Happy Hardcore...absolute shite. Rubbish. No style, no class. So there ya go Luna C. stick that in your happy hardcore pipe and smoke it. YOUR SHIT.
SwiftScoobyC 3 years ago
SwiftScoobyC Smart E's didnt kill the hardcore scene u muppet. Hardcore was at its prime 91-96 ... it faded like ALL music scenes do with time as did the 70s/80s etc. Hardcore (oldskool hardcore not the shite we got today such as scooter & co) was NOT commercial, it was underground, only towards the the end of the hardcore scene did popular DJ's/groups (such as seduction/prodigy) go commercial as thats where the £ was. Get ya facts right you retard, u know fk all about oldskool by the sounds ;)
hootavoota 3 years ago
Get off ya soapbox you dick, oh and by the way, dont give it large from behind a screen number 1. I'll talk to you, but dont give it the big one, as regards to the hardcore scene, I was there buddy, right up the pointed end ok my son, Camden Palace, Astoria, Paradise Club and all the major events through 91-94 so kiss my oldskool raving arse.
Wrote the book buddy. Luton Crew 92'
SwiftScoobyC 3 years ago
how is prodigy even remotly hardcore their closer to d&b or grime in my epinion with the exeption of outerspace wich has elements of hardcore. just take voodoo people totaly d&b. i count prodigy as the godfaters of d&b. although i supose you could class them as the darkest, grimiest form of hardcore
setamonkeytoy 2 years ago
setamonkey; they are talking about oldskool hardcore; old prodigy is a decent example of oldskool hardcore (but there is better ^_~)
i don't know year markers, but once the oldskool sound started dabbling in adding 4 beat kick drums with the breaks, experimenting in the banging piano lines, and then the pitched up vocals; early hhc started developing. another side shifted more towards keeping it dark, hard, stabby, and raw as shite, and thus early jungle started developing.
okidam 2 years ago
Lawl you act like Scooter is hardcore still, They haven't been for 10 years. And you really think Darwin, Orbit 1, Reese, Kurt etc. all put out bad tracks?
ChrisHunter12345 2 years ago
scooter has been going since 1994
stealth1692 1 year ago
Appreciate your effort to teach us background. Thank you.
OldYank1 3 years ago 2
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Don't be fooled. this is oldskool shite. Don't be mislead.
This is whats called Pony and Trap me ole mate. As bout as musical as my left toe. This is fucking shit.
SwiftScoobyC 3 years ago
That "documentary" info was GREAT
Young dj's like me must know this stuff!!!
Great track also .... i like old skool hardcore
RAVE ON!!!
=)
malistiks 3 years ago 4