It's the same shit psuedo-libertarians do with the gay marriage topic. They argue endlessly that government should not make laws to protect people against themselves.
Smokers after all have the right to smoke even if it hurts them. But then they flip sides and argue you have to protect gays from Hell by legislating against gayness. If you say homosexuality hurts no one, they counter with 'it hurts the sanctity of marriage'. For them 'liberty' simply means getting what they want.
@CO2Junkie I actually don't know of a single libertarian that opposes gay marriage. I do however hear them say that the government has no place regulating marriage. That's their whole thing. If you know of someone that opposes gay marriage and calls themselves a libertarian, then I'd love to know who they are.
@onlywhenprovoked - That skirts the issue a bit. For example - if a 'libertarian' objects to homosexual couples benefiting from the working spouse's healthcare coverage then they need to also object to a wife benefiting from her husband's healthcare coverage. If you're going to argue that a business can choose to provide for a wife but deny the same for a homosexual spouse - then you're not a libertarian - you're a bigot who's hiding behind 'freedom'. Rand Paul is an example of this.
@onlywhenprovoked - I'm talking about healthcare that is provided by a working marriage partner. As it stands now, as I understand it, US law requires an insurer to make that coverage also available to a wife or a husband. Rand Paul says they should not be required to provide it for a homosexual marriage partner. I have not spoken to him. I can only watch his videos & read his comments in news articles.
@onlywhenprovoked - Here's another example - Recently a Cincinnati landlord hung a sign near the pool of her apartment complex that said 'Whites Only'. There is a black family that rents from her. They have a lease for use of the property. Their lease is current. Their rent is paid but they are being excluded from using the pool because of their skin color. Ron Paul believes this should be legal. He has said so. This is not libertarianism; it is racism.
@CO2Junkie Apparently you're confused about what I'm saying.
I don't know what Rand Paul believes, and I'm not defending him.
but being a libertarian is not synonymous with racism, any more than being a protectionist makes someone automatically racist. I see now that you did quantify your gross overgeneralization with "psuedo-libertarians" so I'll just hope that means you do get the difference between libertarianism, and libertarians that are racist.
MorbidMira - for some reason I cannot reply to you. Post a link for your claim of 12 wk sentience, please. I have not heard of this and did not find it with Google. No "awareness" goes on in the brain stem that I can find mentioned. It all seems to be nervous system stuff going on, there. It functions about the same way in a mouse or a rabbit and gives no higher thought function whatsoever.
@curlew0609 Um chill, bro. I don't remember where I saw the article, I read about 100 different stories everyday. As I said, if I can find it again, I'll gladly link it. It was all just high speculation anyway. It's not "my claim" btw; I'm not a scientist or doctor.
@MorbidMira "um chill" It's a controversial, emotionally charged subject. Everyone seems to have an opinion. Some would like to force their opinions on others by force of law.
It's best to stick with facts and toss idle speculation into the mix.
Coughlan, right off the bat I want to say that I respect you, and I love your videos. I think you're wrong here. Take what you were saying @3:27 , and apply that to a world where that 'parasitic thing' is actually a person. Rand's view of the world means that SOMEBODY'S rights will be violated in the instance of an unwanted pregnancy and his pragmatic priorities happen to lie with a lesser evil. It's a fucking difficult decision. You can't assume that he hates women's rights or is a hypocrite.
We are coming to a point where we are just going to have to exterminate people like this guy. Where in the hell does he get comparing pro-life position to the TSA's intrusive searches? Is there a pill I can take to keep me from the TSA? Can girls just not have sex to prevent the TSA ? Will abstinence prevent the TSA? Hey dickhead try and make better comparison you moronic, degenerate!
@willyswear "We are coming to a point where we are just going to have to exterminate people like this guy." If you're pro-life and you think this way, you are a hypocrite. What the fuck is up with playing with the notion that somebody deserves to die because of their beliefs? Notions like that should NOT be taken lightly and you should apologize. Even if the comparison you're referring to is not very apt and abortion is wrong.
I do find it a little bit disturbing that "liberals" (I agree with you on most of this video Cough) have NO appreciation for the moral status of the fetus. It's not as easy as "it can't necessarily feel and therefore it's just an inconvenience". Do we say about a non-sentient coma patient who have the potential to recover, he's not sentient now, so just get rid of him? The problem with making abortion illegal is that you have back-alley versions which endanger BOTH the mother and the fetus.
@hampusheh What I'm trying to say is that it's one of the most difficult social issues there is, and as much as I don't like the Christian right, I definitely don't like people like TAA who made the ludicrous comparison of a fetus to cancer (!?). Just because the other side is crazy doesn't mean our side have to match their level of unreasonableness.
Rand Paul fan: Under a pro-life view, a fetus is a person, and therefore abortion is murder. Freedom doesn't include the right to murder. There's nothing hypocritical about his position on individualism, and pro-life. So it's not exactly a "Taste of his own medicine".
And no, he's not ok with the states shitting on your rights either. Quit getting political positions from wiki entries and find a clip of him actually talking about the subject.
In the case of the TSA, and most security checkpoints, we're gently bending the 4th amendment when we start groping and detaining average people. For a senator, it's completely illegal, since "they shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place"
@broncofan92slay So youtube atheists couldn't give a crap about anything. Then you say abortion matters to them. Your premise is incorrect, your conclusion, absurd.
@broncofan92slay And you're still full of crap, it would not have mattered if I had replied by saying monkeys live on the rings of saturn, cus ya full of it. Keep up genius.
Paulbots want to stop liberal fascists from using big government from forcing a woman to decide for herself whether or not she wants an abortion and allow the states to decide whether or not she can have an abortion.
Libertarians are rare. There are a lot of self-described libertarians online, but most of those seem to be arch-conservatives who place on the autism spectrum.
If you'd like some valid ammo on Ron Paul, check out the Sanctity Of Life Bill where he tries and make a FEDERAL law that declares life to begin at conception. He claims this will give the states the right to decide... but that's bullshit. It will define murder on a federal level to apply to abortions. When asked if he wants to see women jailed for murder as a result of this, he said that he would rather see the doctors convicted instead. This is personal liberty? No, it's smoke and mirrors.
onlywhenprovoked, don't forget that since citizenship is granted at birth, those unborn babies will be illegal immigrants for 9 months. In addition to jailing the ones who get abortions for murder, you have to jail the rest for harboring illegal immigrants.
Is bbb695 your retarded twin brother, or do you morons simply travel in packs. Coughlans point was that Rand Paul is a hypocrite because the 4th amendment also applies to a pregnant women's "right to be secure in their persons".
"...obviously in Rand Paul’s utopia if the state decided they wanted to interfere in some one else’s err in a woman’s right to chose he wouldn’t have a problem with that".
Now stop with the insults and tell me how you get from pro life, to pro the state interfering in an abortion if you aren’t "argue that in order to be pro life, he also has to be in favour of inflicting his views on others with the force of law".
@Coughlan000 But wait, didnt ron paul sign the fetal personshood pledge thus meaning he will pledges to ban all forms of abortion no matter what if he becomes president? Or have i understood that wrong.
@bbb695 It was my understanding that someone who was "pro-life" was in favor of making abortion illegal... and isn't making something illegal by defintion 'inflicting views on others with the force of law'?
Then your understanding is wrong, it is an entirely coherent position to hold pro life views and yet not want those views backed up by the force of law. Now I admit that I don’t know if Paul falls into the category, his views on state power seem to conflict with his views on abortion and he has been very unwilling to clarify his exact position, but Coughlan's only criticism was he has going to talk at a pro life rally.
@bbb695 Actually, yes! In order to be "pro life," you have to be in favor of inflicting your views (legal prohibition) on others with the force of law.
Or am I totally misunderstanding the "pro life"-movement? If you're not talking legislation, are you just politely suggesting that women should never have an abortion?
"They want to get government off your back, but they don't mind the government being in a women's uterus do they? Backs are no good, but uterus's, ok by them."
Hi, I'm a zoologasst. :] I will attempt to demonstrate that Politicians have spindle neurons where the sun don't shine. Why else would they be so resistant to anus probing?
Coughlan has guilt over aborting fetuses? LoL So not only are you claiming to be a doctor, but you're claiming Coughlan is one to? or are you just saying he does black market abortions with a coat hanger out of his home?
I'm not in favor of the TSA or anything.. But these people look like they're getting paid like 10$ an hour... They just don't intimidate me as much as police, or a lot of other authority figures.. idk, I've never had a problem with them. They pat you down, then you move on if you don't give them a bunch of shit and whine.. I don't think it's that unreasonable to have some kind of screening process to get on a plane, the way they have it might be dumb, but idk.. I'm just not worried about it.
I'm a Psychiatrist, MD, and This guy has MAJOR GUILT over aborting fetuses... regardless of if it's right or wrong, he personally has major guilt about it and he's becoming politically active--joining the pro-choice whatever.
It's called SUBLIMATION look it up... unconscious guilt is killing him.
@robertzjenkins You're a psychiatrist ? I'm God. So anything you say is bull if I say so.
Seriously, do you think just claiming you have/are some sort of authority on the matter means anything to us ? Plus while I am not a psychiatrist and have not spent years studying psychology, I think I have a few notions on the subject, and frankly everything you said sounds ridiculous to me, to the point that it would be better for you not to be a psychiatrist because your career would be a failure.
Let's be very clear: The TSA is over-reaching big time. But Rand Paul? This man would have no problem whatsoever to search suspected 'illegal' immigrants in the very same fashion, whether through local law enforcement or State Troopers. He's just using this for political points now. This is a man who essentially wants to deny emergency medical care to people, unless docs + nurses check the patient's id + immigration cards first. Enough said. His medical license should be revoked, imho.
Rand Paul believes that life begins at conception (meh). As such, he feels that abortion takes away the ultimate freedom of the individual. So it's not ironic that he doesn't like what the TSA does, as it's another pointless limitation of individual freedom. That's just how he sees it, and in that context, there's no inconsistency.
And for those who think the Feds need to spell out more rights. No. We already have the rights. It's their job to stay out of the way of our rights.
Coughlan000, regarding the issue of abortion opposes abortion legislation (for or against) at the federal level in favour of the states handling it which sounds all very nice until the rubber hits the road when in reality all he wants to do is swap big federal government for big state government - both of which are completely unpalatable to anyone with a sense of libertarianism.
@SmokingNtheGraveyard I'd say so given his father has read Ayn Rand's novels but I'm unsure whether he has read her philosophy books such as 'Capitalism: The unknown ideal', 'For the new intellectual' and 'the romantic manifesto' etc.
"If the TSA were privately owned, they wouldn't have a problem with it."
DING DING DING DING! We have a winner!
And this is the problem with libertarian types claiming to be "pro-liberty". Corporate tyranny on privately-owned land is perfectly fine.
Sorry Ron and sorry Rand. Being "pro-liberty" involves the federal government spelling out MORE rights for its citizens that the states cannot take away, not less.
@SeventhCycle The federal government is there to protect our rights, not give them to us. That's why the constitution is set up to where the government has only the rights and powers enumerated to it- not that the people only have the rights enumerated by the government. BTW, so much of the corporate tyranny you rightfully detest is made possible by corporations being too much in bed with government in the first place.
@asswipe777 Don't bother. Argments like this would eventually end up with "Even without the federal government the private corporations would still screw us over in the end".
A private airport could do this (having TSA), but at the cost of customers who'd get really pissed off and take their business elsewhere. Can't change your government though lol.
If the TSA were privately owned and open to competition, no one would use them! No airline would pay a security firm to molest its customers, nor would any customer pay for the privilege.
Any ‘rights’ granted by the federal government can be taken away by the federal government. And a right that can be taken away is not in fact a right, it is a privilege.
The bill of rights is a little different to a right granted by the government, the bill of rights does not grant rights it sets out some pre-existing common law rights and spells out that the federal government has no power to infringe on them.
"the right to bear arms shall not be infringed." is an admission that a right to bear arms already exists and shall not be infringed upon, but the right itself does not come from this document.
"People you least suspect we should suspect the most" This is so true my house mate came back from a conservation management project he was taking part in in Costa Rica he bought back coffee, cigarettes and 2 whopping big machetes didn't declare any of it walked straight through if he was a darker complexion with a beard he would have gotten the royal treatment.
Did you read my entire comment? I explained why it's relevant that gays tend to take better care of children. When people have unwanted children, they're more likely to not take good care of them.
500k children in foster care. We were talking about adoption so in that context "homeless" ment children needing adoption.
and still millions world-wide. Guess you don't give a shit about them.
Seriously though, all the anti-abortion laws do is make it more difficult to get a timely abortion, and I feel that if somebody is going to have one, it should be done as soon as possible.
Of course I'm only joking. Pro-choice people are almost always the ones fighting for things that would prevent/make abortions less of a "tragedy" (for lack of a better word). Contraception, ease-of-access - hell, even programmes that would make it easier to bring the foetus to term and raise it without help from a partner (as I'm sure you know, unwed/never-wed mothers are the ones who abort the most).
Is a Google search to find the answer to simple questions to complicated for you? Do you seriously not know that there are large numbers of orphans in the world? Not all of them are up for adoption, but there are thousands that are that can't find homes.
@Primalxbeast The 'google' search is NOT going to bring up 100,000 homeless orphans in the USA. Yes, there r tragic circumstances all over the world. What causes this? The monetary policies of THE WORLD BANK & the governments of the USA & UK. What should we do about these refugees from famine & war? Should the USUK send drones to wipe them out? What r ur thoughts?
@GriffinElliot You do realise that 'aborting unwanted or unviable babies' is different from 'massacring people who are inconvieniant', right? Oh wait, you don't do you? Sad.
And no, we shouldn't go and massacre them. Only a sick person would even suggest it. How about we look after the people who are ALREADY ON THIS PLANET, eh?
There is a reason that studies show that gay parents are often better at raising children, and it has nothing to do with gays being inherently better at child care. It's because they don't have oops children. People who don't want children, or have them when they aren't ready to, often do a shitty job raising children, so why should somebody have a child if they aren't going to take care of it? When it's still ok to abort is a more valid question.
@Primalxbeast Ok, perhaps there was something that I missed? How did we make the leap to gay parents? Glad that they r rising children well. . .on to the topic 100.000 orphans-homeless orphans in the USA. The number is NOT correct. Just sayin
Ok, then how do you explain the millions of homeless orphans in the the world? There are hundreds of thousands of homeless children in the US alone, so you are clearly an ignorant dumb-fuck.
@Primalxbeast where do u get ur numbers? I would really be interested to know. Qualify ur statement please. . .u can sling all of the names that u'd like. U r a bold faced LIAR.
Some logic! Sick way u have of describing babies. You r dead wrong. Human life is precious & sacred. 99.9% of pregnancy has NOTHING to do with rape, yet all we hear about in this argument is rape. A woman makes her "choice" the minute she lays down, as does a man. There r millions of people who would love to nuture & raise the resulting "DRAG". U & those who think like u r selfish & sick eugenicists.
@Nilguiri Oh, how very clever & original. U really put a great deal of thought into that response. How very touching. U probably really hate urself. A sad case indeed. Go save a whale or something. . .
@Nilguiri U poor old sot, u missed out on biology classes didn't u. Perhaps u were among the homeless orphan group, aye? But bully for u! Someone taught u how to use a computer! What a profound blessing. . .
@GriffinElliot The point of this video is that he won't even allow women who actually do get raped to have an abortion .I agree that a woman chose to have unprotected sex and thus has to bare the consequences. That's my belief but laws aren't based on what I or you belief it's based on the population.
@iKnowWhoIamWhoRu Great response, t.y. It is important to respect beliefs. I must respond to what u have said. Laws r based on the population? If ur country institutes a law tomorrow that states: All dogs are now horses. Is that a proper law that u will abide by? It's an irrational law, aye? No one has the right to take the life of another. No nation, No population has the right to transgress that UNIVERSAL TRUTH. The abortion mentality has consequences ie. drones & kill lists, aye?
@GriffinElliot Sorry, I probably explained myself horribly. What I meant was that laws put in place should be ones that the people agree with, obviously there are ALWAYS exceptions to the rules. It is a scientific fact that dogs are NOT horses. There are many polls stating that majority of people support abortions only under certain circumstances(rape). Just because a powerful minute sect of people believe other wise and doesn't mean they should dictate over everyone else.
@GriffinElliot To add, an embryo cannot live outside the womb. It is not self-sustainable and depends wholly on the women: people don't feel bad about taking chicken embryo's but somehow it's different than human embryos(just an example don't bring up the whole eating humans thing)
@iKnowWhoIamWhoRu Interesting analogy, but, it must be said that we r speaking of HUMAN life! When u consume an egg, u r most likely consuming something that is unfertilized. Very different, aye? R human beings & chickens equal in your opinion? When U say that in early developmental stages, babies depend wholly on women--so true--this is motherhood, aye? What a prospect: nuturing mother or murderous monster. . .just sayin
@GriffinElliot No just because a woman CAN give birth to a baby doesn't mean she is a mother. Would you rather have an aborted FETUS, not baby, or an unwanted child. You can bring up adoption but let's face the fact that not all children are adopted. Would you rather sacrifice the happiness of a child than have a fetus aborted?
@iKnowWhoIamWhoRu Good to hear from u again. U & I disagree. U say "FETUS,not baby" Scientific evidence tells me: BABY. There is no sacrifice of a CHILD's happiness-ulitmately we r all responsible for our own happiness-the possibility belongs to each! What shall we say? There is a possibility for unhappiness, let's kill him? There r so many wonderful souls who've survived turbulent childhoods; I'm honored indeed to know & love them. Grateful that they've had the chance to laugh & cry.
@GriffinElliot I said abort, kill, the fetus, you implied killing a person with the "him" statement. When is a fetus considered a human? Can a fetus think? Does it feel pain? When a mother has a stillbirth would you consider that the killing of a baby? She was responsible for her pregnancy. We are responsible for our happiness but that doesn't mean that others don't have any affect. An oppressing and hating mother would definitely impact the happiness of her unwanted child.
@iKnowWhoIamWhoRu From the moment of conception there is undeniable evidence that there is life. From about 8 weeks gestation there is evidence of response to simuli-pain-On to stillbirth: heartbreaking, usually underdevelopment of major organ system-not the fault of mother. My cousin-accident-her parents were under heavy pressure to abort her. They said NO! (under threat of being disowned) She turned out to be a prodigee & is now a person famous for helping others. . .she has a child of her own
@GriffinElliot Yes but it can't live on it's own. Your forcing one human to take care of another. I don't care whether it is immoral to not care for a person, but there should be no law forcing one to care for a person they never wanted in the first place. Republicans talk about smaller government but how is a government that wants to enter a woman's womb?
Yes - and part of that is having autonomy over your own body - if the government can force a woman to have a baby she doesn't want then her life is not her own.
@richo61 A woman has a responsibility as does a man. The moment she/he chooses to have sex, she/he should be prepared for the potential result. Interesting that the government doesn't force a woman to have a baby, but, it will aid & abett her in comitting murder/infanticide, aye? ADOPTION is available & should be utilized.
@SgtSanchez sheesh. A man has the primary responsibility. Without his 'choice' fertilization does not happen. Yes, I do know how many children r up for adoption in China-they r the fortunate ones-others get eaten in soup & run over repeatedly by people who have no regard for human life because of the ABORTION MENTALITY in their country- -U think about that Sgt, then tell me who'd dense & or being obtuse
LOL NO ONE EATS CHILDREN IN SOUP. NO ONE. You are absolutely ridiculous and I'm not going to argue with someone who thinks there is such a thing as an "abortion mentality", let alone someone who thinks such a thing would lead to running your children over repeatedly. Oh my god, this was too great.
@GriffinElliot "A woman has a responsibility as does a man"
Of course - but we shouldn't punish the irresponsibility by forcing the irresponsible to be parents against their will.
There is a demand for adoptions - but if all abortions ended (they wouldn't - they would go underground) then there would not be enough demand for all those children.
Also - it is not cost free/ risk free carrying a baby to term. Giving birth is very demanding on a woman - physically , emotionally and financially.
Human life is precious and sacred? why? every second hundreds of people die and hundreds of people are born. Worlds like precious and sacred denote a rarity, nothing rare about human life.
There are million who would, but there also millions who wouldn't, so you've got no point there. Everything you've said has been pointless.
@chaoszieg Surely pointless in ur bizzaro world view, aye. . .move a long, go play with ur crystals or something. Shiney objects probably provide u with hours of entertainment. . .
Forget it, you'll never be able to explain things to a Ron Paul supporter.
They only see the things they like and dismiss the rest, or have no idea of the repercussions of "let the states decide" while doing things like getting rid of Roe Vs Wade,removing minimum wage at the federal level,letting business be as racists and prejudice as they want,appointing who he wants to certain offices.
Most people, no matter who they support do that, to lesser or greater degrees.
(Imagine the congitive disonance acrobatics for the santorum supports - I shudder at the thought)
It just happens that Ron Paul supporters. like so much those things they enjoy about him, that the things they are willing to disreguard are glaring and painful to the rest of us.
I agree with your point in this video, but they don't just pat people down over here, they actually grope your privates. Personally, I don't care if he was ass raped considering he'd let women who can't medically carry to term without dieing just die along with the fetus, but it is seriously fucked up that you can't fly without a vertual strip search, and some pervert feeling up your privates.
The only reasons given in this video for abortion were reasons of convenience. It'll be a "drag" on everyone, how silly. Those babies got their one way (boot knocking). Pretending that the baby just magically appeared in the womans uterus makes the decision for an abortion much easier. It's not the childs fault that the parents find the child to be an inconvenience.
@tantoi10man Rand Paul also supports states taking away birth control options and states that teach abstinence only sex education. He completely supports a person privacy being violated if it is state controlled.
Ron Paul is the best. The only one who can change the USA. All other fuckers aren't.
IvanVinski2009 3 weeks ago
It's the same shit psuedo-libertarians do with the gay marriage topic. They argue endlessly that government should not make laws to protect people against themselves.
Smokers after all have the right to smoke even if it hurts them. But then they flip sides and argue you have to protect gays from Hell by legislating against gayness. If you say homosexuality hurts no one, they counter with 'it hurts the sanctity of marriage'. For them 'liberty' simply means getting what they want.
CO2Junkie 3 weeks ago
@CO2Junkie I actually don't know of a single libertarian that opposes gay marriage. I do however hear them say that the government has no place regulating marriage. That's their whole thing. If you know of someone that opposes gay marriage and calls themselves a libertarian, then I'd love to know who they are.
onlywhenprovoked 3 weeks ago
@onlywhenprovoked - That skirts the issue a bit. For example - if a 'libertarian' objects to homosexual couples benefiting from the working spouse's healthcare coverage then they need to also object to a wife benefiting from her husband's healthcare coverage. If you're going to argue that a business can choose to provide for a wife but deny the same for a homosexual spouse - then you're not a libertarian - you're a bigot who's hiding behind 'freedom'. Rand Paul is an example of this.
CO2Junkie 3 weeks ago
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onlywhenprovoked 3 weeks ago
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@CO2Junkie Libertarians object to ALL government funded health care, and government regulation on healthcare, for everyone - not just for gays.
I thought that was painfully obvious.
onlywhenprovoked 3 weeks ago
@onlywhenprovoked - I'm talking about healthcare that is provided by a working marriage partner. As it stands now, as I understand it, US law requires an insurer to make that coverage also available to a wife or a husband. Rand Paul says they should not be required to provide it for a homosexual marriage partner. I have not spoken to him. I can only watch his videos & read his comments in news articles.
CO2Junkie 3 weeks ago
@onlywhenprovoked - Here's another example - Recently a Cincinnati landlord hung a sign near the pool of her apartment complex that said 'Whites Only'. There is a black family that rents from her. They have a lease for use of the property. Their lease is current. Their rent is paid but they are being excluded from using the pool because of their skin color. Ron Paul believes this should be legal. He has said so. This is not libertarianism; it is racism.
CO2Junkie 3 weeks ago
@CO2Junkie Apparently you're confused about what I'm saying.
I don't know what Rand Paul believes, and I'm not defending him.
but being a libertarian is not synonymous with racism, any more than being a protectionist makes someone automatically racist. I see now that you did quantify your gross overgeneralization with "psuedo-libertarians" so I'll just hope that means you do get the difference between libertarianism, and libertarians that are racist.
onlywhenprovoked 3 weeks ago
I love the fact that he is pro life but also pro the death penalty.
How the fuck you can be pro life and the pro death peanlty and still think anything you say will be taken seriously is beyond me.
ThePatch123 1 month ago
@ThePatch123 Source? I can't find his position of the death penalty anywhere.
Madoculos 1 month ago
MorbidMira - for some reason I cannot reply to you. Post a link for your claim of 12 wk sentience, please. I have not heard of this and did not find it with Google. No "awareness" goes on in the brain stem that I can find mentioned. It all seems to be nervous system stuff going on, there. It functions about the same way in a mouse or a rabbit and gives no higher thought function whatsoever.
curlew0609 1 month ago
@curlew0609 Um chill, bro. I don't remember where I saw the article, I read about 100 different stories everyday. As I said, if I can find it again, I'll gladly link it. It was all just high speculation anyway. It's not "my claim" btw; I'm not a scientist or doctor.
MorbidMira 1 month ago
@MorbidMira "um chill" It's a controversial, emotionally charged subject. Everyone seems to have an opinion. Some would like to force their opinions on others by force of law.
It's best to stick with facts and toss idle speculation into the mix.
curlew0609 1 month ago
@curlew0609 True. YouTube comment sections have the notorious reputation of being highly influential on the legislation of this issue. =3
MorbidMira 1 month ago
@MorbidMira Don't know about the legislature, but they have been known to cause readers foam at the mouth.
curlew0609 1 month ago
Nothing to say about the freaking loser Ron Paul, one day he is a creationist, the next he's a gourmet chef, cooking up books!! Thanks for the info!
FatexanBell 1 month ago
Paulites are high-functioning morons.
ttaz4dqm 1 month ago
Coughlan, right off the bat I want to say that I respect you, and I love your videos. I think you're wrong here. Take what you were saying @3:27 , and apply that to a world where that 'parasitic thing' is actually a person. Rand's view of the world means that SOMEBODY'S rights will be violated in the instance of an unwanted pregnancy and his pragmatic priorities happen to lie with a lesser evil. It's a fucking difficult decision. You can't assume that he hates women's rights or is a hypocrite.
Madoculos 1 month ago
We are coming to a point where we are just going to have to exterminate people like this guy. Where in the hell does he get comparing pro-life position to the TSA's intrusive searches? Is there a pill I can take to keep me from the TSA? Can girls just not have sex to prevent the TSA ? Will abstinence prevent the TSA? Hey dickhead try and make better comparison you moronic, degenerate!
willyswear 1 month ago
@willyswear "We are coming to a point where we are just going to have to exterminate people like this guy." If you're pro-life and you think this way, you are a hypocrite. What the fuck is up with playing with the notion that somebody deserves to die because of their beliefs? Notions like that should NOT be taken lightly and you should apologize. Even if the comparison you're referring to is not very apt and abortion is wrong.
Madoculos 1 month ago
@Madoculos I am not pro-life; especially for progressive, retards like him who are destroying the world!!!
willyswear 1 month ago
I do find it a little bit disturbing that "liberals" (I agree with you on most of this video Cough) have NO appreciation for the moral status of the fetus. It's not as easy as "it can't necessarily feel and therefore it's just an inconvenience". Do we say about a non-sentient coma patient who have the potential to recover, he's not sentient now, so just get rid of him? The problem with making abortion illegal is that you have back-alley versions which endanger BOTH the mother and the fetus.
hampusheh 1 month ago
@hampusheh What I'm trying to say is that it's one of the most difficult social issues there is, and as much as I don't like the Christian right, I definitely don't like people like TAA who made the ludicrous comparison of a fetus to cancer (!?). Just because the other side is crazy doesn't mean our side have to match their level of unreasonableness.
hampusheh 1 month ago
Who doesn't enjoy Molestation Pat-Downs of 2 year olds, and Cancer Scanners?
Good fucking times in America.
SHEEPLEwhisperer 1 month ago
"The March for Life"
translation:
"The March against Choice"
"I want individual states to decide... but not individual people."
lazyperfectionist1 1 month ago
I believe TSA stands for "Theoretical Security Administration."
lazyperfectionist1 1 month ago
Rand Paul fan: Under a pro-life view, a fetus is a person, and therefore abortion is murder. Freedom doesn't include the right to murder. There's nothing hypocritical about his position on individualism, and pro-life. So it's not exactly a "Taste of his own medicine".
And no, he's not ok with the states shitting on your rights either. Quit getting political positions from wiki entries and find a clip of him actually talking about the subject.
DeathOfAMudkip 1 month ago
Go lick a boot you fucking shill.
I bet your panties get wet every time you realize London has the most Video Surveillance of any city on earth.
SHEEPLEwhisperer 1 month ago
@Thenakedatheist
Your use of name calling shows me your lack of vocabulary to articulate your point.
MrJoeystockdale 1 month ago
Wait, wait... wait... isn't Rand Paul a politician? Doesn't he have the power to CHANGE whether the TSA can even do this legally?
TheOJDrinker 1 month ago
So uh... How about them wars?
coastalcoder 1 month ago
As an anti-tax freak, he probably wasted taxpayers money to buy the flight that he refused to get on.
ManNorthern 1 month ago
Taking Sanity Away....Touching Strangers' Asses...
bluecollarcanuck 1 month ago
TSA - Take Scissors Away
TheHasselBoff 1 month ago
In the case of the TSA, and most security checkpoints, we're gently bending the 4th amendment when we start groping and detaining average people. For a senator, it's completely illegal, since "they shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place"
nihilistsneedhugstoo 1 month ago
these youtube atheists couldn't give a crap about anything
the only thing that matters to them is abortion as if this is the big issue right now
broncofan92slay 1 month ago
@broncofan92slay So youtube atheists couldn't give a crap about anything. Then you say abortion matters to them. Your premise is incorrect, your conclusion, absurd.
Bornofbadger 1 month ago
@Bornofbadger i obviously meant anything beside abortion
2+2 genius
broncofan92slay 1 month ago
@broncofan92slay And you're still full of crap, it would not have mattered if I had replied by saying monkeys live on the rings of saturn, cus ya full of it. Keep up genius.
Bornofbadger 1 month ago
@Bornofbadger it wouldn't have mattered because it would have made almost as much sense as your previous post
broncofan92slay 1 month ago
@broncofan92slay
You just got owned and are not trying to cover that up.
Lulz at you RonTards.
mecher3k 1 month ago
@mecher3k you seem to have lot of experience getting owned so i'll defer to you on that
broncofan92slay 1 month ago
@broncofan92slay
Too badly owned to come up with a actual comeback.
So sad.
mecher3k 1 month ago
@mecher3k lots of substance in your posts
broncofan92slay 1 month ago
If he believes that abortion is deeply immoral/murder then if he allows even the CHANCE of it being allowed then he is immoral.
But personally i just see it as undesirable but ok if its for the greater good of the mother/child/father ect...
Yahweigh 1 month ago
Paulbots want to stop liberal fascists from using big government from forcing a woman to decide for herself whether or not she wants an abortion and allow the states to decide whether or not she can have an abortion.
PompousPreacher 1 month ago
Rand Paul always spoke in favor of the common man.
So he deserved the right to complain about it regardless if you agree with his pro-life opinions.
hamidious 1 month ago
@hamidious Yes you're right he does have the right to complain but it is ironic.
FlaviusMaximus1967 1 month ago
indeed, Steed.
panthera50 1 month ago
"Can't think?" Are you saying all babies are born Republican Dick?
RadarKat73080 1 month ago
Libertarians are rare. There are a lot of self-described libertarians online, but most of those seem to be arch-conservatives who place on the autism spectrum.
Dissent1 1 month ago
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onlywhenprovoked 1 month ago 17
If you'd like some valid ammo on Ron Paul, check out the Sanctity Of Life Bill where he tries and make a FEDERAL law that declares life to begin at conception. He claims this will give the states the right to decide... but that's bullshit. It will define murder on a federal level to apply to abortions. When asked if he wants to see women jailed for murder as a result of this, he said that he would rather see the doctors convicted instead. This is personal liberty? No, it's smoke and mirrors.
onlywhenprovoked 1 month ago 4
onlywhenprovoked, don't forget that since citizenship is granted at birth, those unborn babies will be illegal immigrants for 9 months. In addition to jailing the ones who get abortions for murder, you have to jail the rest for harboring illegal immigrants.
JustAnotherMutant 3 weeks ago
@JustAnotherMutant Yeah, except that unborn are protected by The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212).
onlywhenprovoked 3 weeks ago
onlywhenprovoked, that protection does not grant them citizenship, so if they are living humans they are non-citizens.
JustAnotherMutant 3 weeks ago
could not agree more. the irony burns.
gothatfunk 1 month ago
Your video is lame and intellectually flawed. The 4th amendment applies to everyone including people who have different view points on abortion.
MrJoeystockdale 1 month ago
@MrJoeystockdale
Is bbb695 your retarded twin brother, or do you morons simply travel in packs. Coughlans point was that Rand Paul is a hypocrite because the 4th amendment also applies to a pregnant women's "right to be secure in their persons".
TheNakedAtheist 1 month ago
Are you seriously trying to argue that in order to be pro life, he also has to be in favour of inflicting his views on others with the force of law?
bbb695 1 month ago
@bbb695 no im not you fucking moron..jesus christ please dont tell me i have to explain this?
Coughlan000 1 month ago 15
@Coughlan000
And yet you say,
"...obviously in Rand Paul’s utopia if the state decided they wanted to interfere in some one else’s err in a woman’s right to chose he wouldn’t have a problem with that".
Now stop with the insults and tell me how you get from pro life, to pro the state interfering in an abortion if you aren’t "argue that in order to be pro life, he also has to be in favour of inflicting his views on others with the force of law".
bbb695 1 month ago
@Coughlan000 But wait, didnt ron paul sign the fetal personshood pledge thus meaning he will pledges to ban all forms of abortion no matter what if he becomes president? Or have i understood that wrong.
Yawb120 1 month ago
@bbb695 It was my understanding that someone who was "pro-life" was in favor of making abortion illegal... and isn't making something illegal by defintion 'inflicting views on others with the force of law'?
TheOJDrinker 1 month ago
@TheOJDrinker
Then your understanding is wrong, it is an entirely coherent position to hold pro life views and yet not want those views backed up by the force of law. Now I admit that I don’t know if Paul falls into the category, his views on state power seem to conflict with his views on abortion and he has been very unwilling to clarify his exact position, but Coughlan's only criticism was he has going to talk at a pro life rally.
bbb695 1 month ago
@bbb695 Actually, yes! In order to be "pro life," you have to be in favor of inflicting your views (legal prohibition) on others with the force of law.
Or am I totally misunderstanding the "pro life"-movement? If you're not talking legislation, are you just politely suggesting that women should never have an abortion?
OppirompaMiDotCom 1 month ago
as George Carlin said
"They want to get government off your back, but they don't mind the government being in a women's uterus do they? Backs are no good, but uterus's, ok by them."
chaoszieg 1 month ago
Hi, I'm a zoologasst. :] I will attempt to demonstrate that Politicians have spindle neurons where the sun don't shine. Why else would they be so resistant to anus probing?
HucksterFoot 1 month ago
@robertzjenkins
Coughlan has guilt over aborting fetuses? LoL So not only are you claiming to be a doctor, but you're claiming Coughlan is one to? or are you just saying he does black market abortions with a coat hanger out of his home?
What a dork.
Primalxbeast 1 month ago
@robertzjenkins
You're full of shit. Do you actually think that any of us believe you're a shrink?
You may be a lieing souless scumbag, but that alone doesn't prove that you're a shrink.
Primalxbeast 1 month ago
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I'm not in favor of the TSA or anything.. But these people look like they're getting paid like 10$ an hour... They just don't intimidate me as much as police, or a lot of other authority figures.. idk, I've never had a problem with them. They pat you down, then you move on if you don't give them a bunch of shit and whine.. I don't think it's that unreasonable to have some kind of screening process to get on a plane, the way they have it might be dumb, but idk.. I'm just not worried about it.
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DarkFantasyvids 1 month ago
I'm a Psychiatrist, MD, and This guy has MAJOR GUILT over aborting fetuses... regardless of if it's right or wrong, he personally has major guilt about it and he's becoming politically active--joining the pro-choice whatever.
It's called SUBLIMATION look it up... unconscious guilt is killing him.
robertzjenkins 1 month ago
@robertzjenkins Yeh right, everyone believes you're a shrink.
jimmyjazz240 1 month ago
@robertzjenkins You're a psychiatrist ? I'm God. So anything you say is bull if I say so.
Seriously, do you think just claiming you have/are some sort of authority on the matter means anything to us ? Plus while I am not a psychiatrist and have not spent years studying psychology, I think I have a few notions on the subject, and frankly everything you said sounds ridiculous to me, to the point that it would be better for you not to be a psychiatrist because your career would be a failure.
gilless429 1 month ago
@robertzjenkins
Yeah, got your MD out of a crackerjack box did you?
chaoszieg 1 month ago
In the eyes of Ron and Rand Paul
State mandate = Good Federal mandate = Bad
GeneralInsomnia 1 month ago
Let's be very clear: The TSA is over-reaching big time. But Rand Paul? This man would have no problem whatsoever to search suspected 'illegal' immigrants in the very same fashion, whether through local law enforcement or State Troopers. He's just using this for political points now. This is a man who essentially wants to deny emergency medical care to people, unless docs + nurses check the patient's id + immigration cards first. Enough said. His medical license should be revoked, imho.
55ella2007k 1 month ago
Rand Paul believes that life begins at conception (meh). As such, he feels that abortion takes away the ultimate freedom of the individual. So it's not ironic that he doesn't like what the TSA does, as it's another pointless limitation of individual freedom. That's just how he sees it, and in that context, there's no inconsistency.
And for those who think the Feds need to spell out more rights. No. We already have the rights. It's their job to stay out of the way of our rights.
ravenslaves 1 month ago
Coughlan000, regarding the issue of abortion opposes abortion legislation (for or against) at the federal level in favour of the states handling it which sounds all very nice until the rubber hits the road when in reality all he wants to do is swap big federal government for big state government - both of which are completely unpalatable to anyone with a sense of libertarianism.
kawaiigardiner 1 month ago
Is he named after Ayn Rand? Does anyone know?
SmokingNtheGraveyard 1 month ago
@SmokingNtheGraveyard I'd say so given his father has read Ayn Rand's novels but I'm unsure whether he has read her philosophy books such as 'Capitalism: The unknown ideal', 'For the new intellectual' and 'the romantic manifesto' etc.
kawaiigardiner 1 month ago
@SmokingNtheGraveyard i wouldn't be surprised.
anibalybarrarojas 1 month ago
@SmokingNtheGraveyard
probabley not given that Rand is short for Randal
bbb695 1 month ago
@bbb695 I didn't know that, I'd always thought that he was named after Ayn Rand
FlaviusMaximus1967 1 month ago
"Why? Why?...Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are people you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?" -George Carlin
Primalxbeast 1 month ago
this video was glib and sanctimonious... not a good fit for you Richard.
This is the kinda argument I would expect from Thunderf00t or Condel.
wizkid2000 1 month ago
"If the TSA were privately owned, they wouldn't have a problem with it."
DING DING DING DING! We have a winner!
And this is the problem with libertarian types claiming to be "pro-liberty". Corporate tyranny on privately-owned land is perfectly fine.
Sorry Ron and sorry Rand. Being "pro-liberty" involves the federal government spelling out MORE rights for its citizens that the states cannot take away, not less.
SeventhCycle 1 month ago 21
@SeventhCycle The federal government is there to protect our rights, not give them to us. That's why the constitution is set up to where the government has only the rights and powers enumerated to it- not that the people only have the rights enumerated by the government. BTW, so much of the corporate tyranny you rightfully detest is made possible by corporations being too much in bed with government in the first place.
asswipe777 1 month ago
@asswipe777 Don't bother. Argments like this would eventually end up with "Even without the federal government the private corporations would still screw us over in the end".
A private airport could do this (having TSA), but at the cost of customers who'd get really pissed off and take their business elsewhere. Can't change your government though lol.
kmelfina 1 month ago
@SeventhCycle The federal govt "giving" rights? Wow, you really have no clue.
PsychologicalCynic 1 month ago
@SeventhCycle Nailed it.
jussts 1 month ago
@SeventhCycle
If the TSA were privately owned and open to competition, no one would use them! No airline would pay a security firm to molest its customers, nor would any customer pay for the privilege.
Any ‘rights’ granted by the federal government can be taken away by the federal government. And a right that can be taken away is not in fact a right, it is a privilege.
bbb695 1 month ago
@bbb695 I think you're a little bit less cynical than I am.
Enumerated within the Bill of Rights, the second amendment says distinctly that "the right to bear arms shall not be infringed."
Yet, depending on which state you're in, a convicted felon may, or may not be entitled to getting their gun rights back.
Guess who decided on this in the 1980s: Congress.
If the second amendment in the "Bill of Rights" is really a privilege, then there are no rights. Just privileges.
SeventhCycle 1 month ago
@SeventhCycle
The bill of rights is a little different to a right granted by the government, the bill of rights does not grant rights it sets out some pre-existing common law rights and spells out that the federal government has no power to infringe on them.
"the right to bear arms shall not be infringed." is an admission that a right to bear arms already exists and shall not be infringed upon, but the right itself does not come from this document.
bbb695 1 month ago
i can't believe you described a baby as so meaningless Richard.
aaugoaa 1 month ago
you mean a parasite?
yushinzzo2 1 month ago
@SrgSanchez
So true. I think it was George Carlin that pointed out that Republicans are only pro-life before you're born.
Primalxbeast 1 month ago
"People you least suspect we should suspect the most" This is so true my house mate came back from a conservation management project he was taking part in in Costa Rica he bought back coffee, cigarettes and 2 whopping big machetes didn't declare any of it walked straight through if he was a darker complexion with a beard he would have gotten the royal treatment.
MoMember88 1 month ago
as soon as that baby comes out, "pro-lifers" would sooner drop a bomb on its head than assist the mother in caring for it.
SgtSanchez 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot
Did you read my entire comment? I explained why it's relevant that gays tend to take better care of children. When people have unwanted children, they're more likely to not take good care of them.
500k children in foster care. We were talking about adoption so in that context "homeless" ment children needing adoption.
and still millions world-wide. Guess you don't give a shit about them.
Primalxbeast 1 month ago
Ron Paul wants to privatise the TSA. The Pauls only care about GOVERNMENT intrusion, but CORPORATE intrusion is A-OK.
dangerouslytalented 1 month ago
@SgtSanchez
LoL
Seriously though, all the anti-abortion laws do is make it more difficult to get a timely abortion, and I feel that if somebody is going to have one, it should be done as soon as possible.
Primalxbeast 1 month ago
@Primalxbeast
Of course I'm only joking. Pro-choice people are almost always the ones fighting for things that would prevent/make abortions less of a "tragedy" (for lack of a better word). Contraception, ease-of-access - hell, even programmes that would make it easier to bring the foetus to term and raise it without help from a partner (as I'm sure you know, unwed/never-wed mothers are the ones who abort the most).
SgtSanchez 1 month ago
Fuck The Pauls!
bobster451 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot
Is a Google search to find the answer to simple questions to complicated for you? Do you seriously not know that there are large numbers of orphans in the world? Not all of them are up for adoption, but there are thousands that are that can't find homes.
Primalxbeast 1 month ago
@Primalxbeast The 'google' search is NOT going to bring up 100,000 homeless orphans in the USA. Yes, there r tragic circumstances all over the world. What causes this? The monetary policies of THE WORLD BANK & the governments of the USA & UK. What should we do about these refugees from famine & war? Should the USUK send drones to wipe them out? What r ur thoughts?
GriffinElliot 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot You do realise that 'aborting unwanted or unviable babies' is different from 'massacring people who are inconvieniant', right? Oh wait, you don't do you? Sad.
And no, we shouldn't go and massacre them. Only a sick person would even suggest it. How about we look after the people who are ALREADY ON THIS PLANET, eh?
andromidius 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot
There is a reason that studies show that gay parents are often better at raising children, and it has nothing to do with gays being inherently better at child care. It's because they don't have oops children. People who don't want children, or have them when they aren't ready to, often do a shitty job raising children, so why should somebody have a child if they aren't going to take care of it? When it's still ok to abort is a more valid question.
Primalxbeast 1 month ago
@Primalxbeast
If there's anything Griffin has shown us, it's that it's never too late to abort. :)
SgtSanchez 1 month ago
@Primalxbeast Ok, perhaps there was something that I missed? How did we make the leap to gay parents? Glad that they r rising children well. . .on to the topic 100.000 orphans-homeless orphans in the USA. The number is NOT correct. Just sayin
GriffinElliot 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot
Ok, then how do you explain the millions of homeless orphans in the the world? There are hundreds of thousands of homeless children in the US alone, so you are clearly an ignorant dumb-fuck.
Primalxbeast 1 month ago
@Primalxbeast where do u get ur numbers? I would really be interested to know. Qualify ur statement please. . .u can sling all of the names that u'd like. U r a bold faced LIAR.
GriffinElliot 1 month ago
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@GriffinElliot The woman and the man BOTH make the choice, but only the woman is punished. Hmmmmmmm.
Epiphanott 1 month ago
What a fucking hypocrite. There's a surprise!
Nilguiri 1 month ago
Some logic! Sick way u have of describing babies. You r dead wrong. Human life is precious & sacred. 99.9% of pregnancy has NOTHING to do with rape, yet all we hear about in this argument is rape. A woman makes her "choice" the minute she lays down, as does a man. There r millions of people who would love to nuture & raise the resulting "DRAG". U & those who think like u r selfish & sick eugenicists.
GriffinElliot 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot
Shame you weren't aborted.
Nilguiri 1 month ago
@Nilguiri Oh, how very clever & original. U really put a great deal of thought into that response. How very touching. U probably really hate urself. A sad case indeed. Go save a whale or something. . .
GriffinElliot 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot
Please give me your mother's phone number. Maybe it's not too late to abort your sorry ass.
Nilguiri 1 month ago
@Nilguiri U poor old sot, u missed out on biology classes didn't u. Perhaps u were among the homeless orphan group, aye? But bully for u! Someone taught u how to use a computer! What a profound blessing. . .
GriffinElliot 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot
I asked for your mother's phone number, not your opinion.
Nilguiri 1 month ago
@Nilguiri me mum would kick ur sorry arse & then give u ur opinion in a brown bag. *grin*
GriffinElliot 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot me mum wont make u tea if ur not nice..
fadetoGTR 1 month ago
@Nilguiri Ha ha .
woofalot13 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot So your saying she chose to get raped? Are you stupid or do you not understand what rape is?
iKnowWhoIamWhoRu 1 month ago
@iKnowWhoIamWhoRu Who got raped? Who said anyone got raped? Did read something that wasn't there? Do u do that often?
GriffinElliot 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot The point of this video is that he won't even allow women who actually do get raped to have an abortion .I agree that a woman chose to have unprotected sex and thus has to bare the consequences. That's my belief but laws aren't based on what I or you belief it's based on the population.
iKnowWhoIamWhoRu 1 month ago
@iKnowWhoIamWhoRu Great response, t.y. It is important to respect beliefs. I must respond to what u have said. Laws r based on the population? If ur country institutes a law tomorrow that states: All dogs are now horses. Is that a proper law that u will abide by? It's an irrational law, aye? No one has the right to take the life of another. No nation, No population has the right to transgress that UNIVERSAL TRUTH. The abortion mentality has consequences ie. drones & kill lists, aye?
GriffinElliot 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot Sorry, I probably explained myself horribly. What I meant was that laws put in place should be ones that the people agree with, obviously there are ALWAYS exceptions to the rules. It is a scientific fact that dogs are NOT horses. There are many polls stating that majority of people support abortions only under certain circumstances(rape). Just because a powerful minute sect of people believe other wise and doesn't mean they should dictate over everyone else.
iKnowWhoIamWhoRu 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot To add, an embryo cannot live outside the womb. It is not self-sustainable and depends wholly on the women: people don't feel bad about taking chicken embryo's but somehow it's different than human embryos(just an example don't bring up the whole eating humans thing)
iKnowWhoIamWhoRu 1 month ago
@iKnowWhoIamWhoRu Interesting analogy, but, it must be said that we r speaking of HUMAN life! When u consume an egg, u r most likely consuming something that is unfertilized. Very different, aye? R human beings & chickens equal in your opinion? When U say that in early developmental stages, babies depend wholly on women--so true--this is motherhood, aye? What a prospect: nuturing mother or murderous monster. . .just sayin
GriffinElliot 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot No just because a woman CAN give birth to a baby doesn't mean she is a mother. Would you rather have an aborted FETUS, not baby, or an unwanted child. You can bring up adoption but let's face the fact that not all children are adopted. Would you rather sacrifice the happiness of a child than have a fetus aborted?
iKnowWhoIamWhoRu 1 month ago
@iKnowWhoIamWhoRu Good to hear from u again. U & I disagree. U say "FETUS,not baby" Scientific evidence tells me: BABY. There is no sacrifice of a CHILD's happiness-ulitmately we r all responsible for our own happiness-the possibility belongs to each! What shall we say? There is a possibility for unhappiness, let's kill him? There r so many wonderful souls who've survived turbulent childhoods; I'm honored indeed to know & love them. Grateful that they've had the chance to laugh & cry.
GriffinElliot 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot I said abort, kill, the fetus, you implied killing a person with the "him" statement. When is a fetus considered a human? Can a fetus think? Does it feel pain? When a mother has a stillbirth would you consider that the killing of a baby? She was responsible for her pregnancy. We are responsible for our happiness but that doesn't mean that others don't have any affect. An oppressing and hating mother would definitely impact the happiness of her unwanted child.
iKnowWhoIamWhoRu 1 month ago
@iKnowWhoIamWhoRu From the moment of conception there is undeniable evidence that there is life. From about 8 weeks gestation there is evidence of response to simuli-pain-On to stillbirth: heartbreaking, usually underdevelopment of major organ system-not the fault of mother. My cousin-accident-her parents were under heavy pressure to abort her. They said NO! (under threat of being disowned) She turned out to be a prodigee & is now a person famous for helping others. . .she has a child of her own
GriffinElliot 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot Yes but it can't live on it's own. Your forcing one human to take care of another. I don't care whether it is immoral to not care for a person, but there should be no law forcing one to care for a person they never wanted in the first place. Republicans talk about smaller government but how is a government that wants to enter a woman's womb?
iKnowWhoIamWhoRu 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot "Human life is precious & sacred"
Yes - and part of that is having autonomy over your own body - if the government can force a woman to have a baby she doesn't want then her life is not her own.
richo61 1 month ago
@richo61 A woman has a responsibility as does a man. The moment she/he chooses to have sex, she/he should be prepared for the potential result. Interesting that the government doesn't force a woman to have a baby, but, it will aid & abett her in comitting murder/infanticide, aye? ADOPTION is available & should be utilized.
GriffinElliot 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot
A man isn't the parasite's host. He doesn't have autonomy over the woman's body. He doesn't have a say at all.
Also, adoption? Do you know how many children are up for adoption in China? You're saying we need more? Fuck me, you anti-choice dimwits are dense.
SgtSanchez 1 month ago
@SgtSanchez sheesh. A man has the primary responsibility. Without his 'choice' fertilization does not happen. Yes, I do know how many children r up for adoption in China-they r the fortunate ones-others get eaten in soup & run over repeatedly by people who have no regard for human life because of the ABORTION MENTALITY in their country- -U think about that Sgt, then tell me who'd dense & or being obtuse
GriffinElliot 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot
LOL NO ONE EATS CHILDREN IN SOUP. NO ONE. You are absolutely ridiculous and I'm not going to argue with someone who thinks there is such a thing as an "abortion mentality", let alone someone who thinks such a thing would lead to running your children over repeatedly. Oh my god, this was too great.
SgtSanchez 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot Mental mental chicken oriental !
woofalot13 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot "A woman has a responsibility as does a man"
Of course - but we shouldn't punish the irresponsibility by forcing the irresponsible to be parents against their will.
There is a demand for adoptions - but if all abortions ended (they wouldn't - they would go underground) then there would not be enough demand for all those children.
Also - it is not cost free/ risk free carrying a baby to term. Giving birth is very demanding on a woman - physically , emotionally and financially.
richo61 1 month ago
Also ...
Forcing women to bear unwanted children is as about as anti-freedom, anti libertarian as you can get.
richo61 1 month ago 29
@richo61 No, if you knew anything about the Libertarian party, you would know it is split on the issue of abortion.
BaBYPuNCheR133 1 month ago
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@richo61 No, if you knew anything about the Libertarian party, you would know it is split on the issue of abortion.
BaBYPuNCheR133 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot
a number pulled out of your ace of course.
Human life is precious and sacred? why? every second hundreds of people die and hundreds of people are born. Worlds like precious and sacred denote a rarity, nothing rare about human life.
There are million who would, but there also millions who wouldn't, so you've got no point there. Everything you've said has been pointless.
chaoszieg 1 month ago
@chaoszieg Surely pointless in ur bizzaro world view, aye. . .move a long, go play with ur crystals or something. Shiney objects probably provide u with hours of entertainment. . .
GriffinElliot 1 month ago
@GriffinElliot
Oh clever. Go back to your cave now and come back when you can be an original or entertaining troll
chaoszieg 1 month ago
I love how delicious the irony is.
OneSidedEquilibria 1 month ago
Tell you whats funny Ron Paul 7% of the vote in florida , tell you whats not funny the cunts who beat him !
woofalot13 1 month ago
I hope they gave him the full cavity !
woofalot13 1 month ago
@prophetcassius oh fuck me jesus !
woofalot13 1 month ago
Even Jesse Ventura got subjected to a patdown and now has stated he isn't patriotic anymore because of it.
m3talcorps3 1 month ago
Forget it, you'll never be able to explain things to a Ron Paul supporter.
They only see the things they like and dismiss the rest, or have no idea of the repercussions of "let the states decide" while doing things like getting rid of Roe Vs Wade,removing minimum wage at the federal level,letting business be as racists and prejudice as they want,appointing who he wants to certain offices.
Connected2U2 1 month ago 10
@Connected2U2
Most people, no matter who they support do that, to lesser or greater degrees.
(Imagine the congitive disonance acrobatics for the santorum supports - I shudder at the thought)
It just happens that Ron Paul supporters. like so much those things they enjoy about him, that the things they are willing to disreguard are glaring and painful to the rest of us.
I think yours should be a top comment.
PurpleGhost 1 month ago
@PurpleGhost Have you noticed the lack of ronulans today they seem to have gone quiet is it something to do with 7% of the vote in florida ?
woofalot13 1 month ago
I guess coughlan liked fingers up his bum at the airport.. :S
Jx1x3 1 month ago
I agree with your point in this video, but they don't just pat people down over here, they actually grope your privates. Personally, I don't care if he was ass raped considering he'd let women who can't medically carry to term without dieing just die along with the fetus, but it is seriously fucked up that you can't fly without a vertual strip search, and some pervert feeling up your privates.
Primalxbeast 1 month ago
@Coughlan000 at 1:20 "..generally you find it's the people you least suspect"
Oh shit, by that logic my mother is a crack whore!.......Mom! Stop it!
DanishAtheist 1 month ago
Oh, snap! Hypocrisy exposed? Quick, quick! Let's flood the video and defend the cult leader. :D
KnightXXI 1 month ago
The only reasons given in this video for abortion were reasons of convenience. It'll be a "drag" on everyone, how silly. Those babies got their one way (boot knocking). Pretending that the baby just magically appeared in the womans uterus makes the decision for an abortion much easier. It's not the childs fault that the parents find the child to be an inconvenience.
tantoi10man 1 month ago
@tantoi10man because as we all know,it's the woman's fault if she gets raped...
warpedwiselegoman 1 month ago
@tantoi10man Rand Paul also supports states taking away birth control options and states that teach abstinence only sex education. He completely supports a person privacy being violated if it is state controlled.
debrmck 1 month ago