@CPMaverick I do not understand WHY United does this, but they do. The passengers from this flight (which is always half empty mind you) get put onto another 747 at Sydney that takes them to Los Angeles with other passengers leaving from Sydney. This plane then gets put on a Sydney to San Francisco route. It's extremely odd and I don't know of any other airline that does this.
I remember taking off on one of these in the old UAL livery from Sydney to SFO. 12 Hour flight, and I ENJOYED EVERY SECOND OF IT. The takeoff I had compared to this one was a lot quieter for some reason, even though I sat within a few feet in front of the engines, IN BUSINESS CLASS, because the check in attendant saw my mom's frequent flyer things, that's part of the reason I enjoyed that flight, I can't imagine staying in a cramped coach seat for 12 hours! :P
trust me its painful to travel for 12 hours in economy (coach) - i flew london - bangkok(rtn) - never ever doing it again unless i fly buisness or first class!
Oh, sorry, didn't know if it was upto the pilot's discretion. Anyways looks like u had fun, great take-off, how many pax were there? sorry if u had already answered this.
This flight must have been virtually empty, just look at the length of runway it uses before lift off, the rate of climb and how quickly they retract the flaps. Impressive. Bueat view of Sydney as well.
Hello, that rule only applies to anything that can cause interference, such as radios and cell phones. Video cameras and laptops do NOT cause interference, so they're allowed.
Woooow! A 747 to Melbourne? Thats extra cool - wish I could get a 747 every time I went to a domestic destination in Aus. :) nice job by the way - well done!
i guess because maybe united usualy flies to sydney from the u.s and for the people that want to go to melbourne, they would have to go to sydney as a refueling stop i guess and then take another flight to melbourne
Most people get off in SYD. The LAX/SFO - SYD routes are very lucrative for UAL (and QFA). And not only passengers either - they make a fortune from air-freight. It has even been said that United has a very lucrative air-freight operation between the US West Coast and Sydney, which also carries passengers!
United has more than one flight that ends in SYD. These often have full cabins, especially in Business and First Class, so they are very lucrative flights.
By running one of these planes (that would be unused at the airport anyway) on to MEL, they can sell tickets to MEL as well. And while there are many times this plane is lightly loaded, I bet during big events in MEL it is full.
No, the plane probably has a light fuel load for Sydney to Melbourne. That's why the take-off roll was so short. Sydney to Melbourne is a VERY short flight for a 747.
Sorry to disappoint you but Sydney airport sucks big time because of the domestic & international terminals being located away from each other plus the night time curfew, Melbourne airport operates 24 hours a day & both the domestic & international terminals are located in the one building.
Sydney Airport needs that curfew cuz its in an area where there's so much residence and i even hear them so much coming over my house but its fine but not when yer sleeping
United is allowed to fly within Australia for international connecting passengers only. So it is impossible to buy this flight from SYD-MEL only, you must purchase it as LAX-MEL (via SYD).
Flaps are 10, normal takeoff flap setting is either 10 or 20 for more wieght. There is no flaps 15 like on other BOEING models and if anything is 5 or under they will be a alram int he cockpit. UAL rocks and the reason I know this is because I talk to UAL 744 pilots and also I have PMDG Queen of the Skies.
First video of a lightly loaded 747, how can you squeeze money from this big boy if you not stuffing it with people and luggage? Will ATC append this flight as "heavy"? LOL. Nice take off btw.
Pretty bloody quick rotation for any a/c departing Kingsford Smith - I've been on (albeit rather laden) 738s which don't get airborne until when in line w/ Rwy 07/25 or the Domestic Terminal
Quick becasue they were a light load to Melbourne (hour long flight) but still i agree quicker than usual, iv flown to and from sydney over 100 times and 737's even past the crossing runway when they take-off, CPmaverick, care to share?
This was a very lightly loaded flight as well as a short one. The economy cabin was about 20% full at best. I'd guess that a 747 has plenty of engine power and when not loaded with a pacific crossing's worth of fuel, can really get up and go! Just my speculation though!
Yeah fair enough, although passenger load doesnt really matter on such a large aircraft, on somthing like a cessna then you dont want to carry 10 people on it but on a 747 with such beasts of engines 20% or 100% doesnt make much difference, its all about the fuel.
However the comment about 747 is true. The major portion of weight comes from the fuel. 20 people or 380 people doesn't matter all that much, although the Cargo can be a factor.
This takeoff was pretty impressive. Straighten up, throttle up and GONE. But from the aircraft lining up probably didn't have much time for sitting1
Writeowl 8 months ago
What row were u in??
Was this from Los Angeles? Did u just stay in ur seat while sum disembarked?? ;)
PLANES73780 1 year ago
YMML
12drumup 1 year ago
wow i've never seen before a 747 retract the flaps so quickly :o
hash2all 2 years ago 2
a delta airlines 747 wouldnt fly from syd to melb unless it was an emergency .
2200BK 2 years ago
You're right, because Delta does not even operate 747s (though their merger with NW has some NW operated 747s painted in Delta colors).
If you are saying a 747 would not operate this route at all, you are wrong. United does this every day. Not an emergency.
CPMaverick 2 years ago 4
@CPMaverick Actually, now those 747s ARE from Delta, as the merger of Northwest with Delta is complete, and the whole airline is now called Delta.
LTU932 2 years ago
As of 31 Dec 09 you are correct, but so was I at the time of my post.
Delta has NEVER had a 747 in Australia so the point is that 2200BK was very uninformed.
CPMaverick 2 years ago
@CPMaverick I do not understand WHY United does this, but they do. The passengers from this flight (which is always half empty mind you) get put onto another 747 at Sydney that takes them to Los Angeles with other passengers leaving from Sydney. This plane then gets put on a Sydney to San Francisco route. It's extremely odd and I don't know of any other airline that does this.
chunkyxsushi 1 year ago
does virgin atlantic fly to SYD?
SweatyFunSeeker 2 years ago 7
Yes it dose. They have nice service, though I couldn't enjoy it with my ears lol
FlashPointGaming 2 years ago
@SweatyFunSeeker yep it does, heheh late reply much?
PalkiaLova112 1 year ago
@SweatyFunSeeker - Yes, to LHR via HKG, a daily service.
petrhsr 1 year ago
@SweatyFunSeeker Yes they do.
Sirwest299 1 year ago
excellent video.............................
miar2006 2 years ago
is melbourne in australia? if it is wat is the airport code
nathanbrett15 2 years ago 7
search: melborne icao @ google :)
daan11111 2 years ago
@nathanbrett15 The code is MEL
CPMaverick 1 year ago
@CPMaverick Or YMML :)
jlebesis 1 year ago
@CPMaverick I thought the code was YMML
Sirwest299 1 year ago
@nathanbrett15 or YMML
Tilan123 1 year ago
thats a quick take off if u think about it , it usualy takes alot of time for 747 to start to gain lift .. well done :)
alex9734 2 years ago
That's because the aircraft was lightly loaded with fuel as it was a shorter flight.
incheon 2 years ago 2
Its only an hour to Melbourne so not much fuel needed
rhettski999 2 years ago
yea because its a short hop from sydney to melbourne so the plane was not fully loaded
muthatrukka24 2 years ago
Great sight watching UA839 fly directly over you at 35,000ft, up in the Victorian high country on its way into Melbourne.
guitarshredder18 2 years ago
Nice video. Back in 2000 I flew the non stop LAX-MEL before it was discontinued.
DoubleGauss 3 years ago 3
that isnt a wing seat thats at least 4 -5 rows from the wing
ME04073 3 years ago
Great vid man..Been on that UAL across the Pacific 50 times.. Love ya vid
plantinseed 3 years ago
I can see my house from up there!
mubd1234 3 years ago
It's just where people happened to be Allocated
balmaindude95 3 years ago
By far the most interesting place. You get to see not only down, but what flight control stuff is taking place.
Davidmac08 3 years ago
Cos thats where the action is
ken92660 3 years ago
sydney airport fuckin rules lol. jer. nah customs here in australia are all gay cunts.
givinguptheghost1988 3 years ago
i didnt know they have winglets
agueroville 3 years ago
Its the 747 200 that may not have winglets? I think. Havent been on a 200 in a long time. Most of them are retired.
bodiezoffa 3 years ago
Fastest 747 takeoff I've ever seen! It didn't even take half the runway to lift off!
svscared 3 years ago 4
I remember taking off on one of these in the old UAL livery from Sydney to SFO. 12 Hour flight, and I ENJOYED EVERY SECOND OF IT. The takeoff I had compared to this one was a lot quieter for some reason, even though I sat within a few feet in front of the engines, IN BUSINESS CLASS, because the check in attendant saw my mom's frequent flyer things, that's part of the reason I enjoyed that flight, I can't imagine staying in a cramped coach seat for 12 hours! :P
ChainChomp2 3 years ago
trust me its painful to travel for 12 hours in economy (coach) - i flew london - bangkok(rtn) - never ever doing it again unless i fly buisness or first class!
Buiskoola 3 years ago
Yep, just like the Air New Zealand flight from SFO to Auckland, and back then there were no entertainment systems on the 747s, just footrests >_>.
ChainChomp2 3 years ago
You should have included the ATC. United always has an ATC channel. Nevertheless amazing video.
Have a good day sir!
Triple777ER 3 years ago
Unfortunately United does not always have ATC. It is up to the pilot's discretion, and on this flight, it was turned off. :(
CPMaverick 3 years ago
Oh, sorry, didn't know if it was upto the pilot's discretion. Anyways looks like u had fun, great take-off, how many pax were there? sorry if u had already answered this.
Triple777ER 3 years ago
What's United in flight service like is it any good.
casperblackcat1975 3 years ago
I was on a 747 that took off near that quickly, but it was full. Huh. Pilot got skill!
OMGLysses 4 years ago
This flight must have been virtually empty, just look at the length of runway it uses before lift off, the rate of climb and how quickly they retract the flaps. Impressive. Bueat view of Sydney as well.
wogga8 4 years ago
how did u record this when u cant have electronic devives switched on in the plane
collingwoodrules 4 years ago
No flight attendant can tell them to turn it off when they're all seated for take off >D
OMGLysses 4 years ago
your not supposed to but whos cares. I do it all the time. I've even accidently left my phone on a few times
jimmyp42002 3 years ago
how did u record this when u cant have electronic devives switched on in the plane
collingwoodrules 4 years ago
Hello, that rule only applies to anything that can cause interference, such as radios and cell phones. Video cameras and laptops do NOT cause interference, so they're allowed.
kimberlyKfnOphiEAGLE 3 years ago
Great video what's the in flight service like is United Airlines any good?.
casperblackcat1975 4 years ago
Shame you wern,t on the other wing, where the best view in the world was.
glen1304 4 years ago
very nice video indeed.
and so much for "please turn off all electronic devices ;-)
ruddlgamble 4 years ago
Woooow! A 747 to Melbourne? Thats extra cool - wish I could get a 747 every time I went to a domestic destination in Aus. :) nice job by the way - well done!
RedoutesChoice 4 years ago
i guess because maybe united usualy flies to sydney from the u.s and for the people that want to go to melbourne, they would have to go to sydney as a refueling stop i guess and then take another flight to melbourne
flysingapore130 4 years ago
Why does United fly this route if they hardly get any passengers?
chikkychak 4 years ago
Most people get off in SYD. The LAX/SFO - SYD routes are very lucrative for UAL (and QFA). And not only passengers either - they make a fortune from air-freight. It has even been said that United has a very lucrative air-freight operation between the US West Coast and Sydney, which also carries passengers!
skinboy8 4 years ago
United has more than one flight that ends in SYD. These often have full cabins, especially in Business and First Class, so they are very lucrative flights.
By running one of these planes (that would be unused at the airport anyway) on to MEL, they can sell tickets to MEL as well. And while there are many times this plane is lightly loaded, I bet during big events in MEL it is full.
CPMaverick 4 years ago
There must be much lift under the wings and few passangers onboard to achieve a so short take-off
SuperTeen15 4 years ago
No, the plane probably has a light fuel load for Sydney to Melbourne. That's why the take-off roll was so short. Sydney to Melbourne is a VERY short flight for a 747.
jetfreak4 4 years ago
The shortest 744 run-up on Youtube?
skinboy8 4 years ago
Nice Video
gluca90 4 years ago
Very nice video, thank you
JamesBond1717 4 years ago
That was departing on runway 34L and you saw international terminal.
MickeySyd 4 years ago
luky u get to ride on new livery united
gamerox54 4 years ago
nice
7THEHARDWAY 4 years ago
Go Sydney Go Sydney!!
cozminos 4 years ago
Sorry to disappoint you but Sydney airport sucks big time because of the domestic & international terminals being located away from each other plus the night time curfew, Melbourne airport operates 24 hours a day & both the domestic & international terminals are located in the one building.
casperblackcat1975 3 years ago
Sydney Airport needs that curfew cuz its in an area where there's so much residence and i even hear them so much coming over my house but its fine but not when yer sleeping
greekozzi 3 years ago
I know that's why I think more airlines should be flying into Melbourne airport because it's the only airport in Australia that operates for 24 hours
casperblackcat1975 3 years ago
My home airport of BNE (Brisbane) also operates 24 hours a day. Most in Ausralia do, SYD is the exception.
OzNix05 2 years ago
great
plrstd 4 years ago
wow sydney's airport is huge, was that the dom or Int i saw?
TNTBABY 4 years ago
i love planes :D
celinaxxx 4 years ago
United is allowed to fly within Australia for international connecting passengers only. So it is impossible to buy this flight from SYD-MEL only, you must purchase it as LAX-MEL (via SYD).
CPMaverick 4 years ago
Flaps are 10, normal takeoff flap setting is either 10 or 20 for more wieght. There is no flaps 15 like on other BOEING models and if anything is 5 or under they will be a alram int he cockpit. UAL rocks and the reason I know this is because I talk to UAL 744 pilots and also I have PMDG Queen of the Skies.
75sevenA330 4 years ago
Flaps are setted on 10 - 15.This is necassary otherwise de ass of the plane can hit the ground.
hayvant 5 years ago
I also notice the flaps seem to be set less than 20. Possibly 10 or even 5.
musicalaviator 5 years ago
First video of a lightly loaded 747, how can you squeeze money from this big boy if you not stuffing it with people and luggage? Will ATC append this flight as "heavy"? LOL. Nice take off btw.
racsito39 5 years ago
jeeez that plane must have been real empty... the 747 takes off just before the bit where they cross over the runway towards the end..
fenrisnz 5 years ago
man that was quick it must have had some powerfull engines there wow nice.
Omid45 5 years ago
Wow that was a fast takeoff. Note also how the B747 initially climbed like a rocket (relatively speaking).
pr1268 5 years ago
Pretty bloody quick rotation for any a/c departing Kingsford Smith - I've been on (albeit rather laden) 738s which don't get airborne until when in line w/ Rwy 07/25 or the Domestic Terminal
aamslfc 5 years ago
that was a pretty quick takeoff
1095seank 5 years ago
Quick becasue they were a light load to Melbourne (hour long flight) but still i agree quicker than usual, iv flown to and from sydney over 100 times and 737's even past the crossing runway when they take-off, CPmaverick, care to share?
JPDNO2 5 years ago
This was a very lightly loaded flight as well as a short one. The economy cabin was about 20% full at best. I'd guess that a 747 has plenty of engine power and when not loaded with a pacific crossing's worth of fuel, can really get up and go! Just my speculation though!
CPMaverick 5 years ago
Yeah fair enough, although passenger load doesnt really matter on such a large aircraft, on somthing like a cessna then you dont want to carry 10 people on it but on a 747 with such beasts of engines 20% or 100% doesnt make much difference, its all about the fuel.
JPDNO2 5 years ago
Cessna C172's only have 4 seats ;)
However the comment about 747 is true. The major portion of weight comes from the fuel. 20 people or 380 people doesn't matter all that much, although the Cargo can be a factor.
musicalaviator 5 years ago