@Saranyaaful Even east timor was part of indonesia, east timor was still the poorest and it's poorer than they achieve independence! Ngentot indonesia!
@karelin11 honestly, I couldn't care less for a person that have no brain and I don't really wanna make a trouble, but here goes... :)
I never said that East Timor will become GREAT if they didn't separated from Indonesia now did I? I'm just saying it's sad they became one of the most poorest country, and I hope they get better (and I'm Indonesian)
And wow, you sure have a lot free time to make all those Anti-Indonesia video!! Eeer... Sir... how about you... umm, get a life?
@Saranyaaful If you don't care, why are you react like this? I hope more calamities happens in your country! In fact, we can respect you only if all of you are x-rated pornstars forever and no smokers at all! I inform all people in entire Earth that Indonesia is an empire, not a country and this is we get a life!
@karelin11 Can't you figure it out yourself?? I'm trying to having, well, fun, I guess?
You hope more calamities happen to my country? Lol, you're so temperament that it's funny. Just keep hoping, not that it will change anything. It's all in God's hand
Huh? When did I ask you to respect us Indonesian? How come you think like that? Gosh
Porn, smokers, blah, it's happen. No country is perfect, yours too
FYI, Indonesia is a republican country, no matter what you think. Have a nice day
@Saranyaaful you are making an excuse! In fact, you are the most sexually hypocrite in the Earth! That's why we condemn anti-porn law in your country! We condemn your sexual morality/modesty! In fact, Indonesia is the top one largest population of smokers! Plus, sexual censorship in your country, that's why we insult indonesia since there is censorship in your sexual organs!
@Saranyaaful Are you blind? Indonesia is the highest rate of smokers in southeast asia! Don't fool me,terrorist pig! Much better we will smash your face! We pray that more calamities and bird flu kill you are your countrymen! Your race are the most hypocrite! You have anti-porn law but we watch ariel peterporn frequently and the most trending in our country until now! Remember, the tsunamis, earthquake, volcanic eruption and bird flu that kills your countrymen are our victory.
@karelin11 oh now you tell me that Indonesia has the highest rate of smokers, IN SOUTHEAST ASIA
and no, it's still wrong. It's Nepal or Myanmar. And even if Indonesia has the highest rate of smokers, it makes sense. Because... I dunno, maybe because Indonesia HAS THE LARGEST POPULATION IN SOUTHERN ASIA? duh
You'll smash my face, you pray for more calamities, and etc for my country. Uh oh, I'm so scared. *Pretending like I give a damn
@karelin11 And lol!! You watch Ariel Peterporn frequently? and that's the trending topic in your country? Sir, you're just embarrassing your own country. (How is that possible anyway it's just about peoples breaking the law by having sex years ago and that happens anywhere)
You think calamities happen to my country is your victory? Might as well think about people taking shit are your victory too then. Dear childish lowlife of shit behind the keyboard, learn something
@Saranyaaful You want war? I'll give you a war! If you're feel offended, rage war against my country, just like your countrymen attacked timor leste and west papua!
@karelin11 no thanks, you're very temperamental, take a deep breath. Sir, war is a very bad thing and those who wanted it surely stupidly arrogant *cough* I mean you *cough* or they really should do it in the process to protect their country
Just imagine it sir, all those who is close to you, lying next to you. And they're not breathing. And all those building you know, your home, your school, or even your favorite toilet, is filled with fire or rather, destroyed.
iya ane juga sedih nih boy sedih banget apa negara sampah pake pelet atau jin ya buktinya 2 kali kebobolan dibilang offside padahal gol ke 2 tuh ga offside loh
WOI MALAYSIA ANJING GAUSAH IKUT CAMPUR LO!! TOT BERANI NYAMPAH DOANG LO!! SINI DEH KE JAKARTA GUA ABISIN LO!!!!! mana supporter lo waktu PIALA AFF GABERANI KE JAKARTA? TAKUT DI BANTAI? LIAT NI SEA GAMES BESOK SIAP2 MAMPUS NEGARA LO!
AUSTRALIA AND PORTUGUESE FUCK!!!!! PROVOKATOR halo hau nia rain susar deit, AUSSIE ANJING!! udah jadi provokator sekarang ajak tentara2 lo pada ke timor dan portugal anjing tentara lo GO TO HELL SEMUA!!
lansanak..wei anak indon takbermaruah fikiran primitf kolot kuno mau bakar aset malaysia bakar la.. 1dunia akan ketawa kan indon bodoh seperti kamu nie kerajaan ko akan tambah malang kne bayar insuran pulak..hahaha jangan tunjuk sangat kebodohan kamu ya sebab smua orang malaysia tau..hehehe ada apa dengan indongnesiall..?? Pas timor timor acheh akan merdeka dari indogshitt nie ..acheh kluar dari indon aku percya akan ketinggalan la indon berserta jawa kuno keparat tu hahaha..
tenpo ne ba ne kopasus indo sira ba hotu ne be ??? sewaktu indonesia masuk di timor leste tentara mereka berjalan tegap mereka selalu bilan timor leste ini tdk akan merdeka jangan minpi di sian bolion....,, tp sekaran org timor leste menyatakan sekali merdeka tetap merdeka ,,,,
Those who disrupt public peace must be put down with force. I don't understand why Australia can't accept the fact that these Timorese are just subjected to harsh laws of Indonesia n stirs up more trouble. Its the law that states that those who attempts to disrupts the nation's unity will face harsh punishment. its their fault to break the law. Look at indonesia now, practically lawless. back then even petty criminals dare not do anything, but now they roam free.
KIVLAN ZEN, former INDONESIAN ARMY CHIEF of staff ,admitted in an interview (with American Internet newspaper Global Mail) that the Indonesian army created VIOLENT fundamentalist muslim groups ,after President Suharto stepped down in 1998. They were used to destabilize rebellious regions in Indonesia such as EAST TIMOR, Aceh, Papua and Ambon.
@owenstheused no they are fucking redneck not, UN including australian in it, were only the referendum watcher to join indonesia or not, you should give to aborigin ppl as well you know
timor leste sekarang jadi negara miskin.. salah sendiri mau di komporin ama australia ass hole itu.. coba kalo masih di republik indonesia pasti rada mendingan... brani referendum ya sekarang terima akibat nya...
@Hakimthukew ; dari jaman suharto juga udah miskin karena engga di bangun....makanya timor mau lepas dari NKRI. Harap baca buku sejarah dan baca koran supaya tambah pengetahuannya sblm kasih pendapat di youtube.
..salute for the police man in 1:16 , he is still trying to implement his authority as a law enforcer despite the risk of being harmed... I saw a video were a man was helplessly attacked by mob. the man was covered with his own blood and still the police has done nothing despite the fact that they are at the scene and there are several of them to help, but sadly they didn't...
@TheMortalez19tc I don't know what happened but in the video I saw, I think the police officers are afraid to interfere. I'll try to find the video so you can decide for yourself.
i'm speak indonesia: tidak kah kalian semua melihat orang-orang timor leste itu? dengan enak meminta wilayahnya masuk kedalam wilayah Indonesia, lalu meminta supaya lepas dengan Indonesia?
To all - I was one of the first in to Timor with the NZDF. And whilst there seen the darkest side of humanity. I don't care for what religion you are from . I seen Christians killing Christians, Muslims killing each other too. I was just violent people killing anyone including innocent bystanders. So grow up a little bit stop and just think of the people who died for no good reason.
@kieranmacdonald83 : You speak only the truth, bless you mate. I was in Indonesia at the time and saw enough death first hand to appreciate the value of life. Always Faithful.
This is only a matter of time. you're looking at all the media the next twenty years the world map of power will move to Asia. American china india and Indonesia will occupy the position of the 4th largest economy. at the same time Indonesia will have a military capability far from today. at the time of your nation do not have anything to compare my ass in Indonesia. you can be proud today. btw open globalfirepower. com to see your state ranks far taken inonesia in the military field
I don't think religion is the main issue, massacres happen quite often when a region tried to liberate it self. No matter what, nothing should break the bound of a country. Killing innocent people is of course a big crime but punishing those who wag a war is necessary to maintain public order.
the main reason why muslims are killing East Timor ppl are due to the fact that they are Christians 2500.000 have been murdered by muslims and the world stood by and did what it's best at looking the other way
malaysia merdeka??merdeka dari hongkong...lagu kebangsaan aja njiplak musisi legendaris indonesia...dasar miskin budaya dan kreatifitas...fuck and loserrr malingsial...
What a calamity. People running around randomly beleiving themselves heros and revolutionarys. You should thank the Australians and the UN every day that your not still doing this gibberish
malaysia seolah olah kalian itu negara kaya, padahal aku tau betul bagaimana keadaan negara kalian itu, miskin belum merdeka (buktinya negara kalian tiap tahun bayar upeti pada inggris), kami bisa aja membakar dua juta hektar kebun sawit kalian yg ada di indonesia, belum lagi kebun coklat, karet, apa mau kami bakar semuanya???
upeti?? mana kamu dengar khabar berita ni inDOGnesial?pasti dari media tolol kamu...ckckckckc...MALAYSIA udah merdeka dengan menentang jepun, british dan komunis..inDOG tetap inDOG
Ya saya juga setuju bangat sama MrNucleus3... tapi kita jangan lupa siapa yang memulakan provokator... menghina bangsa dan agama lain se enaknya.. ya.. sekarang terbukti.. Indonesia Punya PLAYBOYS.. Artis juga bisa membikin filem XXXXX... apa rasis/korup tidak berlaku di Indonesia.. malah lebih teruk.. coba cakap pakai otak.. bukan dubur dong...
kopasus banci pecundang berani aja lawan timor leste yg ga punya kelengkapan perang malah kabur lagi..wakakakakakkaa..TNI LOOOSERRRRRRRR di negara sendiri..viva timor leste dari negara anjing inDOGnesial
Entah knapa di mana ada indonesia, di situ ada provokator dari malaysia. Tidak berkaca di negaranya yang rasis dan korup tp di tutupi oleh media massa dukungan UMNO.
fakta berbicara sdh berapa tahun mereka lepas dari indonesia apa punya mereka tetap aja miskin..........mau jd apa kl sumber daya alam saja tidak punya sumber daya manusia juga di bawah standart mau bikin indutri apaan.....mang singapore letak strategis dan orange luamyan otaknya...kl ini wak..wak....
@sohartogila timor itu negara yg terlahir dari sebuah konflik, jadi bsa kita katakan sbg negar yg bernasib mujur bsa mendirikan negara timor leste, sedangkan otak bt kedepan ny msh dipikirkan pendek, maka hingga skrg negara itu tetap susah dan rakyat ny pun bnyk yg berimigrasi ke indonesia hny utk mencari pekerjaan meskipun di indonesia susah juga cari itu, seharus ny lo sadar diri bagaimana indonesia lebih loyal memberikan makan bt rakyat sana ketimbang portugis yg miskin dari duluny .... >_<
mana mungkin dong.....Timor leste akan jadi maju dari indon.malahan org indon akan datang cari kerja di sini dan jadi orang gaji kami.... betina nya boleh jadi pelacur saja disini...walau apa pun satu DUNIA sudah tahu bahawa indon di halau keluar dari Timor Leste....ha....gelak gelak.....
@sohartogila hahahahaha....kampungan lu cuy... omongan lu sperti org yg lg mabok lem hahahahahaha.....:)
gw ga pernah mendiskiminasi negara eks indonesia, tapi gw hnya heran aja knpe sih org nya memiliki otak sekecil tai.. ahhh sebaiknya kau belajar dulu materi lahhh....:P
@oraygates inilah pahlawan handalan yang berjaya merebut kemerdekaan dari indonesialan..terbukti TNI yang dikata pasukan 14 terkuat dunia pun ngak bisa kalahkan timor2 yang hanya bersenjata buluh bambuu aje... aparat keamannye pun takut.. takut mati..mana kesetiaanye pada pemerintah.. hancur lebur..hahahaha semuanye lari terkencing2 hohoho.. menggelikan hati..TNI penakut..mati semuanye...hahahahahaahahahahahaahahaha
@otairock70 ini bukti betapa bodohnya kamu ini. kamu tau ada dukungan dari luar negeri yg sengaja mengacak2 timor timur. TNI dituduh menembak orang timor yg jd pemicu dan puncaknya kerusuhan Padahal ada pihak2 yg sangat yakin penembakan dilakukan supaya seolah2 TNI lah yg bersalah lalu negara2 international salahkan TNI jadi ga bisa buat apa2. yang paling pengecut itu si RAMOS HORTA ! dia suruh rakyat timor perang tp dia enak2an di eropa. ga ikut berjuang langsung di timor! anjing lo HORTA
What is the problem to let a country get their independence? Why do Indonesia kill/murder/torture/rape ppl only to keep a piece of land in their borders. It must be gold, with other words money.
Money is driving people insane.
So papua and maluku and aceh have always been right. They are the victim of political games by the Dutch and Indonesia.
@elkavarez why do says maluku again huh?in the past there isn`t a kingdom/country of south-maluku!it`s only a local dissidents caused by the dutch,they give promised of wealth-christian-country!not just papua,aceh or borneo even timor-island but all-nusantara areas are victim of western`s-colonization! so please stop this conversation because we wasting our times! and i woudn`t answers your questions again & this is the-last of our conversation,pardon me,thanks a lot!!
But like i said, its just a matter of time when Indonesie will make a big mistake again. All empires fall. The Roman Empire fell, the Nazi-Germany Empire fell and the new Majahapit (RI) is almost falling. East- Timor,Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand and the Philipines are already free from the Majahapit Empire.
@elkavarez no,i don`t think so! we`re solid now.acehnese get their authority so do papua-ppl. south-maluku?it is small-movement built by dutch-educated dr.soumokil and they have brainwashed by dutch-doctrine & promises to ruling southern-area of maluku.they couldn`t exist dude!
@lanangejagad or are many indonesians brainwashed by the government with their majahapit empire, an empire back from the old days?
So much talking while the case is so simple.
Timorese ppl wanted to be independent. Why indonesia dont listen and keep saying its just a small movement. Now they say the same about Maluku.
Its so simple. Ppl say they want freedom, and Indonesia start shooting killing and jailing ppl for years. Why are they so in love with the Maluku and Papua ground?
@elkavarez i said RMS is small movement,not east-timor,right!east-timor is different-case,we gave them option and they made choose! it is not about my people have brainwashed about majapahit-empire coz it`s true,that is story about my-country written in 'babad-tanah-jawi','negara-kertagama'.even Raffless written'history of java'. why you always saying it`s so simple like if the ppl want they freedom we must give them?it`s called separatism,and there is no-country will agree!
@lanangejagad the java history is based on majahapit empire. So you admit it yourself. The majahapit was created due to conquest of several states. So its logical there are states who are fighting these days for freedom.
@elkavarez No it is not logical! Do not compare this situation now to Majapahit Empire. At that time, expanding power through conquest is legal, but not now. If there any state was fighting for freedom will be considered as threat for the unity of the motherland and has to be terminated!
@lanangejagad Wich option u gave timor? You didnt gave options, you attacked them in 1975. After almost 30 years you were forced to give them an option, so you never gave them options. Same with Maluku and Papua. Timor is Oceania, just like Papua and Maluku. Melanesian states. Majahapit means nothing to Papua and Maluku
@elkavarez will the russian-govt will give the-chechen-people a freedom as an independence-state?do you think srilankan-govt. will give tamilese a freedom tamilnadu-state?or if the maori-tribes want their independence,would your govt. or white-ppl will give them and get-out from their-lands?it`s simple for you hah?!
Just like the civil war in 1999 in South Maluku. The government who was behind the war, and then blaming the RMS while the RMS had nothing to do with that war.
If Indonesia is right, you dont have to kill woman and children. That will only make other people think you're wrong. So Timor is right, Maluku is right, Papua is right and Aceh is right.
@elkavarez RMS is a small movements and only their founder-relatives whose still active.but they couldn`t do anything else coz they hasn`t big-support from another citizen!
@lanangejagad same was said about East Timor. And when East Timor got free, people said that about RMS. And when South-Maluku gets free, people will say this about Papua. It will go on and on. Its only a matter of time before Indonesia will make a big mistake again. During the civil war in 1999, the Moluccans in Holland made a bad mistake by asking not to bring RMS flags to demonstrations. That was the biggest mistake they made, because it was exactly the right time to show RMS flags
@elkavarez is the east-timor that you mean,right? why theUN not to force indonesia for east-timor incidents?because they know that falintil killed hundreds of innocent-people at 1975 civil-war! & makes 350thousands people entering indonesian boder!and they know that many pro-indonesian east-timorese were murdered by fretilin last-days before referendum! we know that our army caused many people died but this is the consequnces of war(rebellion)!and we has been condemned & even get sanctions!
@lanangejagad what about the Dili Masacre? What about the Indonesian terror in 1999 when 78,5% of the voters choose independence for East-Timor and the Indonesian army killed 2000 woman and children and students?
If Indonesia didnt invade Timor in 1975, fretlin wouldn't even excist. Dili Massacre would have never happened in 1999 and 2000 people would still be alive.
@elkavarez fretilin is falintil dude! santa-cruz incidents is army`s faults,we don`t argue for that.we has been condemned & sanction right?if you see the vid about santa-cruz you`ll be know why the army shooting-fires!
@lanangejagad thats what im saying. If indonesia didnt invade Timor in 1975, falintil would even excist! see that's were we differ from each other. I am against terrorist actions. And the army was doing terrorist actions. The army was wrong no matter what the reason was. And majahapit is also wrong. Or shall the Italians attack Europe again and bring the Roman Empire back?
@lanangejagad there is no authority. 2007 people get arrested for a dance and waving a flag. Arresting oke, they werent on the program. But years of jail?
You said it yourself, you came with the majahapit empire. Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor were all part of the majahapit empire. And they are all independent now.
@lanangejagad there is no authority. 2007 people get arrested for a dance and waving a flag. Arresting oke, they werent on the program. But years of jail?
You said it yourself, you came with the majahapit empire. Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor were all part of the majahapit empire. And they are all independent now.
I dont think, i know south maluku, west papua and aceh are countries.
There is no place in the world were 3 or 4 nations in 1 country are fighting for freedom. Only indonesia...and it sounds like more will come like bali and manado
It's true it dont have to be a matter of problem living among different cultures in 1 country. But the people from Aceh, Maluku & Papua do have a problem. Indonesia is fuckin their countries up. And before they were part of Indonesia, they didnt wanted to join Indonesia. So Indonesia fucked it up 2 times.
@elkavarez why you still thinking that aceh,southern-maluku(do`nt say all-maluku)&west-papua are countries?why you still thinking that we fucked them up?when we proclaim our independence there is no argue from them but dutch-govt.always being-rude&making-troubles by supporting peoples who want to join dutch-govt. with money,guns&promises!Now the-three provinces like the others have their authority themselves to ruling their people.being so hard now for the outsiders to provoke for separatism!
@lanangejagad there is no authority. 2007 people get arrested for a dance and waving a flag. Arresting oke, they werent on the program. But years of jail?
You said it yourself, you came with the majahapit empire. Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor were all part of the majahapit empire. And they are all independent now.
@lanangejagad@lanangejagad there is no authority. 2007 people get arrested for a dance and waving a flag. Arresting oke, they werent on the program. But years of jail?
You said it yourself, you came with the majahapit empire. Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor were all part of the majahapit empire. And they are all independent now.
@lanangejagad you said it yourself, you came with the majahapit empire. And Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor are all independent now. If Aceh, South Maluku and West Papua were part of Majahapit, they should definitely be independent too.
@elkavarez because they are not dutch colonies.when youth-movements declares for united of indonesia in1928,it only speaks about netherlands east-indies(dutch-colony) only! this is bad-impact of white`s-colonization,and we are splited for that reason!
@lanangejagad exactly. So you say actually Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor should be part of Indonesia too? Doe Indonesia should also become hindu empire again? Should all muslims must become hindu again? Majahapit Empire, R.I., Roman Empire, Nazi-Germany......Those were empires, and never have been 1 country.
The youtplegde in 1928 was more a cooperation against the Dutch colonization. It says nothing about South Maluku or West Papua as a nation being part of Indonesia.
@elkavarez if they speaks about dutch east-indies it means west-papua include! please stop talking about south-maluku!coz in the past maluku is parts & ruled by tidore & ternate kingdoms! after our independence,dutch govt. try to provoke southern-maluku(christian-mayority) people to get independence from indonesia by dutch govt.-supports!they build a movement called 'republik-maluku-selatan' and dutch also built 'organisasi-papua-merdeka'. but they were failed till now on!
@lanangejagad@lanangejagad exactly, and what is ternate and tidore? Maluku. Only North Maluku didn't want to be independent from indonesia. So thats their choice.
Dutch are bastards, they wanted South Maluku to be independent so they can rule over indonesia with Moluccans help. But the definition of RMS got nothing to do with Dutch. Freedom to the people and justice.
@elkavarez it`s better if you study about nusantara/indonesia-past.you`ll know that in maluku-area there is two islamic-kingdoms the rules the area! dutch-govt. try to do religion`s-persuassive with southern-maluku`s people coz they`re christian-mayority!
@lanangejagad why werent they dutch colonies? Because the majahapit was an empire and not 1 country. If it was 1 country, then Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor would automatically fall under the Dutch rule. Majahapit is dangerous. You choose for power/domination/control instead of the will of the people. You must listen to the people
@lanangejagad@lanangejagad why werent they dutch colonies? Because the majahapit was an empire and not 1 country. If it was 1 country, then Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor would automatically fall under the Dutch rule. Majahapit is dangerous. You choose for power/domination/control instead of the will of the people. You must listen to the
@lanangejagad yea why werent they dutch colonies? Because the majahapit was an empire and not 1 country. If it was 1 country, then Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor would automatically fall under the Dutch rule. Majahapit is dangerous. You choose for power/domination/control instead of the will of the people. You must listen to the
@lanangejagad Pandai sungguh kamu Indog berbicara dlm bahasa Majikan kami. Kamu ternyata kuat liat saja lawannya sama dayak saja. Kamu juga pakar sejarah ya Pak? Kerajaan Majapahit Kerajaan Palempang dan macam macam lagi kerajaan purba kamu kaji ya. Mengapa TNI ngak bisa mempertahankan Timur Timor? Kerajaan Jawa kamu ngak kuat si.... omongnya kosong macam kamu bunyinya nyarig baunya tempe. Kamu sekarang udah jadi kacung Inggris ya Pak?
@lanangejagad loh sejarah juga mengajar kamu di maling maling sejarah kamu engak bisa bikin apa apa. sejarah bangsa ku bukan untuk bangsa mu jika berani mari ka mari Kamu hanya mampu lihat belakang dan cerita cerita dongeng embah kamu lihat ka depan ngak mampu si.
U see. It's a shame when you have to say that your own country is fucked-up by Indonesia. But when Timor is now fucked-up, it's their own fault. Much better then somebody else fucking your land up.
@elkavarez yeah,you`re right! it is an expensive-lesson for us that we must stay in our 'non-block' political-view and we`re now working-hard to do that!
@lanangejagad yea don't understand me wrong. The western countries are the true bastards behind this all. Killing, colonizing, murdering, setting land borders, devide et impera all under the name of "civilization". Civilization at any costs. But dont let indonesia make that same mistake. Unity is good. But you cant force ppl, it wil
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karelin11 1 week ago
Hidup Timor Leste! Hidup Papua! Hidup RMS! Mati NKRI! Mati Indonesia ke neraka!
karelin11 1 week ago
what the hell Malaysians doing here?? And moreover, insulting everything that has nothing to do with this video
*sigh*
Anyway, it sad though that when East Timor finally had their own independence, they became one of the poorest country in the world
And I'm glad even though all that, Indonesia still helped them in education, economy, etc etc
Do your best East Timor
Saranyaaful 1 month ago
@Saranyaaful : sincere love without hope :)
topan959 2 weeks ago
@Saranyaaful Even east timor was part of indonesia, east timor was still the poorest and it's poorer than they achieve independence! Ngentot indonesia!
karelin11 2 weeks ago
@karelin11 honestly, I couldn't care less for a person that have no brain and I don't really wanna make a trouble, but here goes... :)
I never said that East Timor will become GREAT if they didn't separated from Indonesia now did I? I'm just saying it's sad they became one of the most poorest country, and I hope they get better (and I'm Indonesian)
And wow, you sure have a lot free time to make all those Anti-Indonesia video!! Eeer... Sir... how about you... umm, get a life?
Saranyaaful 2 weeks ago
@Saranyaaful If you don't care, why are you react like this? I hope more calamities happens in your country! In fact, we can respect you only if all of you are x-rated pornstars forever and no smokers at all! I inform all people in entire Earth that Indonesia is an empire, not a country and this is we get a life!
karelin11 1 week ago
@karelin11 Can't you figure it out yourself?? I'm trying to having, well, fun, I guess?
You hope more calamities happen to my country? Lol, you're so temperament that it's funny. Just keep hoping, not that it will change anything. It's all in God's hand
Huh? When did I ask you to respect us Indonesian? How come you think like that? Gosh
Porn, smokers, blah, it's happen. No country is perfect, yours too
FYI, Indonesia is a republican country, no matter what you think. Have a nice day
Saranyaaful 1 week ago
@Saranyaaful you are making an excuse! In fact, you are the most sexually hypocrite in the Earth! That's why we condemn anti-porn law in your country! We condemn your sexual morality/modesty! In fact, Indonesia is the top one largest population of smokers! Plus, sexual censorship in your country, that's why we insult indonesia since there is censorship in your sexual organs!
karelin11 1 week ago
@karelin11 I'm making excuses? Said by the person who keeps on talking about nonsense bullshit (aren't they the same? oh well) and changing the topic
I'm the most sexually hypocrite on earth? And how?
Oh, you against censorship law? Don't blame my country if you're so horny :/
And the most smoking country is in Europe. Do you think Indonesia is located in Europe?
Sir, get your facts right. Your stupidity doesn't amuse me anymore
Saranyaaful 1 week ago
@Saranyaaful Are you blind? Indonesia is the highest rate of smokers in southeast asia! Don't fool me,terrorist pig! Much better we will smash your face! We pray that more calamities and bird flu kill you are your countrymen! Your race are the most hypocrite! You have anti-porn law but we watch ariel peterporn frequently and the most trending in our country until now! Remember, the tsunamis, earthquake, volcanic eruption and bird flu that kills your countrymen are our victory.
karelin11 1 week ago
@karelin11 oh now you tell me that Indonesia has the highest rate of smokers, IN SOUTHEAST ASIA
and no, it's still wrong. It's Nepal or Myanmar. And even if Indonesia has the highest rate of smokers, it makes sense. Because... I dunno, maybe because Indonesia HAS THE LARGEST POPULATION IN SOUTHERN ASIA? duh
You'll smash my face, you pray for more calamities, and etc for my country. Uh oh, I'm so scared. *Pretending like I give a damn
Saranyaaful 1 week ago
@karelin11 And lol!! You watch Ariel Peterporn frequently? and that's the trending topic in your country? Sir, you're just embarrassing your own country. (How is that possible anyway it's just about peoples breaking the law by having sex years ago and that happens anywhere)
You think calamities happen to my country is your victory? Might as well think about people taking shit are your victory too then. Dear childish lowlife of shit behind the keyboard, learn something
Saranyaaful 1 week ago
@Saranyaaful I'm not amusing you! I'm insulting you! I'm disrespecting you because you are indonesian!
karelin11 1 week ago
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karelin11 1 week ago
@karelin11 then you failed at insulting me, because you make yourself look stupid
*sigh* Thank you for the telling me the obvious... -___-
Saranyaaful 1 week ago
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karelin11 1 week ago
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@Saranyaaful You want war? I'll give you a war! If you're feel offended, rage war against my country, just like your countrymen attacked timor leste and west papua!
karelin11 1 week ago
@karelin11 no thanks, you're very temperamental, take a deep breath. Sir, war is a very bad thing and those who wanted it surely stupidly arrogant *cough* I mean you *cough* or they really should do it in the process to protect their country
Just imagine it sir, all those who is close to you, lying next to you. And they're not breathing. And all those building you know, your home, your school, or even your favorite toilet, is filled with fire or rather, destroyed.
You wanted it?
Saranyaaful 1 week ago 8
brothers against brothers...
what have they got now??
nothing and only suffering...
fuck goverment fuck western
hammercoyi 1 month ago
sekrang mari bunuh gerakan separatis OPM, jaga keutuhan NKRI !!!! MERDEKA
panca0005 1 month ago
iya ane juga sedih nih boy sedih banget apa negara sampah pake pelet atau jin ya buktinya 2 kali kebobolan dibilang offside padahal gol ke 2 tuh ga offside loh
abcdez693 2 months ago
SEMUA DAERAH MAHU FREEDOM DARI INDOGNESIA.. MEREKA TAHU BANGSA JAWA INDOG PEMBULI! PEMBUNUH!
teedeearr 2 months ago
@teedeearr : Malay ngga usah ikut campur,
MrAngga82 2 months ago
@teedeearr Big Secret !!!!
Asal mula bangsa malaysia......
Babi Yahudi + anjing british = bangsa malaysia
so : wajar mereka iri hati / dengki, cakap kotor/lucah
biarkan anjing menggonggong kafila tetap berlalu
luluhlantakmalassial 1 month ago
@luluhlantakmalassial pergi mampus boleh? indogs puiii
teedeearr 1 month ago
@luluhlantakmalassial : boleh saja silahkan menganjingkan malaysia tp
jgn bawa barat / pun yahudi
topan959 2 weeks ago
@topan959 apa barat / yahudi ada kaitan dgn lo ???
luluhlantakmalassial 1 week ago
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@topan959
gagasan 1 asean
kedaulatan islam
keperihatinan rakyat
bahasa jawi
1 bahasa
1 nusantara
bahasajawi 1 week ago
Fuck IndoGG.. FREE TO ACEH PEOPLE.. VIVA ACEH!! IndoG kaum JAWA perosak BANGSA DAN AGAMA... MERDEKA ACEH!!
teedeearr 2 months ago
@teedeearr : ha ha.. kami sudah hafal dengan politik adu domba seperti ini
lebih baik tutup mulutmu dengan menikmati kotoran/tahi ku!!!
topan959 2 weeks ago
malaysial hobby menghina.....babi kau
Rivi252 2 months ago
mending nyari duit boss buat anak bini dari pd ngomel-ngomel.....
auliavingsunk 2 months ago
fuck. you. indonesia. free west papua and maluku
imfromtambunan 2 months ago
WOI MALAYSIA ANJING GAUSAH IKUT CAMPUR LO!! TOT BERANI NYAMPAH DOANG LO!! SINI DEH KE JAKARTA GUA ABISIN LO!!!!! mana supporter lo waktu PIALA AFF GABERANI KE JAKARTA? TAKUT DI BANTAI? LIAT NI SEA GAMES BESOK SIAP2 MAMPUS NEGARA LO!
abcdez693 2 months ago
@abcdez693 pergi mampus boleh?
teedeearr 2 months ago
@abcdez693 : ternyata yg kalah negri kita boss..
sedih ane jadinya.. T_T
MrAngga82 2 months ago
WOI TIMOR LESTE HANOIN DIDiAK IHA IMI NIA ULUNG AGORA ITA SIDAUK MERDEKA IDA AUSTRALIA HO PORTUGAL SIA SAMA ITA NIA RAIN!! SADAR WOI!!
abcdez693 2 months ago
AUSTRALIA AND PORTUGUESE FUCK!!!!! PROVOKATOR halo hau nia rain susar deit, AUSSIE ANJING!! udah jadi provokator sekarang ajak tentara2 lo pada ke timor dan portugal anjing tentara lo GO TO HELL SEMUA!!
abcdez693 2 months ago
ya aceh lebih bahagia jika merdeka dari indon, indon korupsi di peringkat tertinggi
jaznigani 2 months ago
negara termiskin di dunia, jadi budak akhirnya, kasian...
yudiweb 3 months ago
lansanak..wei anak indon takbermaruah fikiran primitf kolot kuno mau bakar aset malaysia bakar la.. 1dunia akan ketawa kan indon bodoh seperti kamu nie kerajaan ko akan tambah malang kne bayar insuran pulak..hahaha jangan tunjuk sangat kebodohan kamu ya sebab smua orang malaysia tau..hehehe ada apa dengan indongnesiall..?? Pas timor timor acheh akan merdeka dari indogshitt nie ..acheh kluar dari indon aku percya akan ketinggalan la indon berserta jawa kuno keparat tu hahaha..
kojetfit 3 months ago
bgus timor leste sy percaya negara anda akan lebih maju dibandingkan dgn indon goblok nie indognesialancaucibaii nie kayakan bangsa jawa jehehehe
kojetfit 3 months ago
@kojetfit fuck u yg penting merdeka
catholoc 3 months ago
@catholoc hahahaha apa yang ada indon gobloks lepas nie aceh la merdeka dari suku jawa parasit indongnesial nie...
kojetfit 3 months ago
tenpo ne ba ne kopasus indo sira ba hotu ne be ??? sewaktu indonesia masuk di timor leste tentara mereka berjalan tegap mereka selalu bilan timor leste ini tdk akan merdeka jangan minpi di sian bolion....,, tp sekaran org timor leste menyatakan sekali merdeka tetap merdeka ,,,,
MrRainain 3 months ago
Those who disrupt public peace must be put down with force. I don't understand why Australia can't accept the fact that these Timorese are just subjected to harsh laws of Indonesia n stirs up more trouble. Its the law that states that those who attempts to disrupts the nation's unity will face harsh punishment. its their fault to break the law. Look at indonesia now, practically lawless. back then even petty criminals dare not do anything, but now they roam free.
Axz92 3 months ago
timor2 tolol
Gelap711 3 months ago
KIVLAN ZEN, former INDONESIAN ARMY CHIEF of staff ,admitted in an interview (with American Internet newspaper Global Mail) that the Indonesian army created VIOLENT fundamentalist muslim groups ,after President Suharto stepped down in 1998. They were used to destabilize rebellious regions in Indonesia such as EAST TIMOR, Aceh, Papua and Ambon.
Niggakip 3 months ago
indonesian police and army sh*tt.
kamarbawah 4 months ago
indonesian police and army shitt.
kamarbawah 4 months ago
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pistol belerang pe?banyak asap =))
kukuketulang 4 months ago
Then Australia went in and kicked your monkey asses LOL
owenstheused 5 months ago
@owenstheused no they are fucking redneck not, UN including australian in it, were only the referendum watcher to join indonesia or not, you should give to aborigin ppl as well you know
sukarno1945 4 months ago
EWW
koreanchoobacca 5 months ago
timor leste sekarang jadi negara miskin.. salah sendiri mau di komporin ama australia ass hole itu.. coba kalo masih di republik indonesia pasti rada mendingan... brani referendum ya sekarang terima akibat nya...
Hakimthukew 5 months ago
@Hakimthukew ; dari jaman suharto juga udah miskin karena engga di bangun....makanya timor mau lepas dari NKRI. Harap baca buku sejarah dan baca koran supaya tambah pengetahuannya sblm kasih pendapat di youtube.
mummelmansberg 3 months ago
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THERE WILL BE NO PEACE, AS LONG AS THERE IS A COUNTRY NAMED MALES-IYA! THEY ARE RACIST STATE!
masjamboel 5 months ago
..salute for the police man in 1:16 , he is still trying to implement his authority as a law enforcer despite the risk of being harmed... I saw a video were a man was helplessly attacked by mob. the man was covered with his own blood and still the police has done nothing despite the fact that they are at the scene and there are several of them to help, but sadly they didn't...
darkartiz 6 months ago
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TheMortalez19tc 5 months ago
@TheMortalez19tc I don't know what happened but in the video I saw, I think the police officers are afraid to interfere. I'll try to find the video so you can decide for yourself.
darkartiz 5 months ago
I wonder! It will come the day we will live it in peace?
moz3ej055 6 months ago
hahah , negara pancasila, rakyatnya pon udah gila bunuha sesama rakyat
ScanNinViDeo 8 months ago
MALON ANJING!!
constantmotionish 8 months ago
maklum malay gak punya sejarah, bangsa besar belajar dari pengalaman!!!
bennlonelyboy 8 months ago
Indog hanya berani perang dengan dayak atau orang hutan kah kah kah
berukendon 9 months ago
i'm speak indonesia: tidak kah kalian semua melihat orang-orang timor leste itu? dengan enak meminta wilayahnya masuk kedalam wilayah Indonesia, lalu meminta supaya lepas dengan Indonesia?
i'm pro-Indonesia
KangAri99 9 months ago
@KangAri99 Apa saja kamu buat cerita dongeng malu si..
berukendon 9 months ago
I too was one of the first in kieranmacdonald83 (Aus Army) and I totally agree, some of the shit I saw will stay in my mind forever.
Ubique1964 9 months ago
To all - I was one of the first in to Timor with the NZDF. And whilst there seen the darkest side of humanity. I don't care for what religion you are from . I seen Christians killing Christians, Muslims killing each other too. I was just violent people killing anyone including innocent bystanders. So grow up a little bit stop and just think of the people who died for no good reason.
kieranmacdonald83 9 months ago
@kieranmacdonald83 : You speak only the truth, bless you mate. I was in Indonesia at the time and saw enough death first hand to appreciate the value of life. Always Faithful.
mikesatu 9 months ago
This is only a matter of time. you're looking at all the media the next twenty years the world map of power will move to Asia. American china india and Indonesia will occupy the position of the 4th largest economy. at the same time Indonesia will have a military capability far from today. at the time of your nation do not have anything to compare my ass in Indonesia. you can be proud today. btw open globalfirepower. com to see your state ranks far taken inonesia in the military field
EGASANJAYA 10 months ago
I don't think religion is the main issue, massacres happen quite often when a region tried to liberate it self. No matter what, nothing should break the bound of a country. Killing innocent people is of course a big crime but punishing those who wag a war is necessary to maintain public order.
CodeHei 10 months ago
the main reason why muslims are killing East Timor ppl are due to the fact that they are Christians 2500.000 have been murdered by muslims and the world stood by and did what it's best at looking the other way
hannahr77 10 months ago
@hannahr77 hey i'm christian but i dont like your words !
malaysiakelautaja 10 months ago
@malaysiakelautaja
Hey I am also a Christians And I really could careless if you like my words or not, prove me wrong
hannahr77 10 months ago
@hannahr77 STFU
and1smax 10 months ago
this is what happen when u dont take vote from the local people before claiming that their land is part of ur country.......
wefsaf33 10 months ago
Damn that Police Man is scared shitless!
james1227 11 months ago
malaysia merdeka??merdeka dari hongkong...lagu kebangsaan aja njiplak musisi legendaris indonesia...dasar miskin budaya dan kreatifitas...fuck and loserrr malingsial...
TheGanyangmalingsial 1 year ago
There is no military war, it is civil war..
HYPERSONICTOW 1 year ago
What a calamity. People running around randomly beleiving themselves heros and revolutionarys. You should thank the Australians and the UN every day that your not still doing this gibberish
tommiatkins 1 year ago
indonesian r losers...lost east timor and their 800 millions of oil reserves.. east timor ruless!!!
manchewl 1 year ago
@manchewl I agree with you! Indonesia is in the midst of calamity! Good for them!
karelin11 1 year ago
COOOOL!!! Provocator died like a mad dog on the street asphalt! Great deed indeed ... deserved punishment.
siroma80 1 year ago
malaysia seolah olah kalian itu negara kaya, padahal aku tau betul bagaimana keadaan negara kalian itu, miskin belum merdeka (buktinya negara kalian tiap tahun bayar upeti pada inggris), kami bisa aja membakar dua juta hektar kebun sawit kalian yg ada di indonesia, belum lagi kebun coklat, karet, apa mau kami bakar semuanya???
lansanak 1 year ago
@lansanak
bayar upeti ape tu
bahasajawi 1 year ago
@lansanak
upeti?? mana kamu dengar khabar berita ni inDOGnesial?pasti dari media tolol kamu...ckckckckc...MALAYSIA udah merdeka dengan menentang jepun, british dan komunis..inDOG tetap inDOG
RileksCrew 1 year ago
Ya saya juga setuju bangat sama MrNucleus3... tapi kita jangan lupa siapa yang memulakan provokator... menghina bangsa dan agama lain se enaknya.. ya.. sekarang terbukti.. Indonesia Punya PLAYBOYS.. Artis juga bisa membikin filem XXXXX... apa rasis/korup tidak berlaku di Indonesia.. malah lebih teruk.. coba cakap pakai otak.. bukan dubur dong...
KLSpy 1 year ago
@KLSpy
kopasus banci pecundang berani aja lawan timor leste yg ga punya kelengkapan perang malah kabur lagi..wakakakakakkaa..TNI LOOOSERRRRRRRR di negara sendiri..viva timor leste dari negara anjing inDOGnesial
RileksCrew 1 year ago
Entah knapa di mana ada indonesia, di situ ada provokator dari malaysia. Tidak berkaca di negaranya yang rasis dan korup tp di tutupi oleh media massa dukungan UMNO.
STUPID MALAY
MrNucleus3 1 year ago
What was going on there at the end? It's really hard to follow. (Australian person here, so I don't speak Timorese or Bahasa Indonesia)
poona83 1 year ago
fakta berbicara sdh berapa tahun mereka lepas dari indonesia apa punya mereka tetap aja miskin..........mau jd apa kl sumber daya alam saja tidak punya sumber daya manusia juga di bawah standart mau bikin indutri apaan.....mang singapore letak strategis dan orange luamyan otaknya...kl ini wak..wak....
andromedanavigator 1 year ago
penghinat anjing semua yang kasih komen jelekkan indonesia.penghianat pantas mati!! merdeka.
bobbie662 1 year ago
@SDKaibigan tentram iya tapi suka ambil dan ngaku ngaku punya indonesia
takayudi69 1 year ago
polisi sama TNI bodoh...pantes timor2 merdeka... ayoh rakyat timor2 GANYANG INDOSIALAN... GANYANG SEMUANYA.. GUE dokong perjuangan kalian.. ayo maju terus... hahahahaah
otairock70 1 year ago
@otairock70 eh lu orang malingsial kan , lu sama pengecutnya sama majikanlu dongo ...
mistiqindonesia 1 year ago
@mistiqindonesia
ya sudah sudah dog..... yang nyata Tim Tim udah kalah kan indonesial...hahahahahha
sohartogila 1 year ago
east timor is a brother from Indonesia even though Indonesia has not yet but we still consider you our brothers
geamers21 1 year ago
endon?....hrmm,,,,,knahh,,,,,,,,
ya`ll stoopiddddddddd
rahmatkahar 1 year ago
Fucking Monkeys!
afghooey 1 year ago
Fucky hell! Crime, shoots, swards killing, total fuss, anarchy, Portuguese carnation's fault. Fs.
MultiEscriba 1 year ago
i love indonesia .... ^_^
oraygates 1 year ago
@oraygates
not indonesia la...its indoG or Indon ni sial...ha ha ha ha ....... kalah sama Timor Leste yaa...maluuuuu dong.
sohartogila 1 year ago
@sohartogila timor itu negara yg terlahir dari sebuah konflik, jadi bsa kita katakan sbg negar yg bernasib mujur bsa mendirikan negara timor leste, sedangkan otak bt kedepan ny msh dipikirkan pendek, maka hingga skrg negara itu tetap susah dan rakyat ny pun bnyk yg berimigrasi ke indonesia hny utk mencari pekerjaan meskipun di indonesia susah juga cari itu, seharus ny lo sadar diri bagaimana indonesia lebih loyal memberikan makan bt rakyat sana ketimbang portugis yg miskin dari duluny .... >_<
oraygates 1 year ago
@oraygates
mana mungkin dong.....Timor leste akan jadi maju dari indon.malahan org indon akan datang cari kerja di sini dan jadi orang gaji kami.... betina nya boleh jadi pelacur saja disini...walau apa pun satu DUNIA sudah tahu bahawa indon di halau keluar dari Timor Leste....ha....gelak gelak.....
erlkid 1 year ago
@erlkid
Timor Leste semakin down semenjak lepas dari Indonesia... beza dengan Singapore yang semakin maju setelah lepas dari Malaysia...
teikucay 1 year ago
@erlkid alah malon anjing slalu ikut campur....:)
nikmati aja hidup esek2 dgn kemunafikan konstitusi kalian.....:)
hahahahahaha di timor leste tuh baru transisi bagaimana bsa ada lapangan pekerja setan !
yg ada hnya peperangan yg memperbutkan kebodohan.......
oraygates 1 year ago
@oraygates
apa pak?mahu dihantar mak dan adik perempuan kamu ke tim tim untuk dijadikan pelacur? boleh........ aku bisa jadi pelanggan pertama ha ha ha........
sohartogila 1 year ago
@sohartogila hahahahaha....kampungan lu cuy... omongan lu sperti org yg lg mabok lem hahahahahaha.....:)
gw ga pernah mendiskiminasi negara eks indonesia, tapi gw hnya heran aja knpe sih org nya memiliki otak sekecil tai.. ahhh sebaiknya kau belajar dulu materi lahhh....:P
oraygates 1 year ago
@oraygates
oh ah....sedap sih adik lu.....
sohartogila 1 year ago
@oraygates
oh ah....sedap sih adik lu.....
sohartogila 1 year ago
@oraygates inilah pahlawan handalan yang berjaya merebut kemerdekaan dari indonesialan..terbukti TNI yang dikata pasukan 14 terkuat dunia pun ngak bisa kalahkan timor2 yang hanya bersenjata buluh bambuu aje... aparat keamannye pun takut.. takut mati..mana kesetiaanye pada pemerintah.. hancur lebur..hahahaha semuanye lari terkencing2 hohoho.. menggelikan hati..TNI penakut..mati semuanye...hahahahahaahahahahahaahahaha
otairock70 1 year ago
@otairock70 ini bukti betapa bodohnya kamu ini. kamu tau ada dukungan dari luar negeri yg sengaja mengacak2 timor timur. TNI dituduh menembak orang timor yg jd pemicu dan puncaknya kerusuhan Padahal ada pihak2 yg sangat yakin penembakan dilakukan supaya seolah2 TNI lah yg bersalah lalu negara2 international salahkan TNI jadi ga bisa buat apa2. yang paling pengecut itu si RAMOS HORTA ! dia suruh rakyat timor perang tp dia enak2an di eropa. ga ikut berjuang langsung di timor! anjing lo HORTA
setem10 1 year ago
hmmm i know i don't know anything but shouldn't the army be handling this first hand??
paladinoftyr 1 year ago
war sucks thats why INTERFET was formed
jimmymohoney 1 year ago
ya allah.. pe la nak jadi dengan indonesia ni.. otak tidak ada
lokman83hakim 1 year ago
@lokman83hakim this is timor u dumb malingsia
jengkollovers 1 year ago
afmaken die kk molukkers hhhhhh nu weet ik wrom ze zo bang naar nederland zijn gevlucht ze worden geneukt tot hun moeders! hahahah
MosLiM4lLiFe 1 year ago
@MosLiM4lLiFe hahaha domme schoonmaakturk!
mauritsfs 1 year ago
savagers with ak47s
450hp202turbo 1 year ago
What is the problem to let a country get their independence? Why do Indonesia kill/murder/torture/rape ppl only to keep a piece of land in their borders. It must be gold, with other words money.
Money is driving people insane.
So papua and maluku and aceh have always been right. They are the victim of political games by the Dutch and Indonesia.
elkavarez 1 year ago
@elkavarez why do says maluku again huh?in the past there isn`t a kingdom/country of south-maluku!it`s only a local dissidents caused by the dutch,they give promised of wealth-christian-country!not just papua,aceh or borneo even timor-island but all-nusantara areas are victim of western`s-colonization! so please stop this conversation because we wasting our times! and i woudn`t answers your questions again & this is the-last of our conversation,pardon me,thanks a lot!!
lanangejagad 1 year ago
@elkavarez : I might agree with you at the time when palestinian get their freedom, and yerusalem as their capital.
didon178 1 year ago
@elkavarez : I might agree with you at the time when the palestinian got their freedom with yerusalem as their capital.
didon178 1 year ago
@didon178 and if the Palestinian won't get their freedom, then fuck the rest of the world?
elkavarez 1 year ago
@elkavarez
the arabs have their freedom to bad their tooooo stuuuupid to even know it
hannahr77 10 months ago
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But like i said, its just a matter of time when Indonesie will make a big mistake again. All empires fall. The Roman Empire fell, the Nazi-Germany Empire fell and the new Majahapit (RI) is almost falling. East- Timor,Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand and the Philipines are already free from the Majahapit Empire.
Aceh, or West-Papua or South-Maluku will be next.
elkavarez 1 year ago
@elkavarez no,i don`t think so! we`re solid now.acehnese get their authority so do papua-ppl. south-maluku?it is small-movement built by dutch-educated dr.soumokil and they have brainwashed by dutch-doctrine & promises to ruling southern-area of maluku.they couldn`t exist dude!
lanangejagad 1 year ago
@lanangejagad or are many indonesians brainwashed by the government with their majahapit empire, an empire back from the old days?
So much talking while the case is so simple.
Timorese ppl wanted to be independent. Why indonesia dont listen and keep saying its just a small movement. Now they say the same about Maluku.
Its so simple. Ppl say they want freedom, and Indonesia start shooting killing and jailing ppl for years. Why are they so in love with the Maluku and Papua ground?
elkavarez 1 year ago
@elkavarez i said RMS is small movement,not east-timor,right!east-timor is different-case,we gave them option and they made choose! it is not about my people have brainwashed about majapahit-empire coz it`s true,that is story about my-country written in 'babad-tanah-jawi','negara-kertagama'.even Raffless written'history of java'. why you always saying it`s so simple like if the ppl want they freedom we must give them?it`s called separatism,and there is no-country will agree!
lanangejagad 1 year ago
@lanangejagad the java history is based on majahapit empire. So you admit it yourself. The majahapit was created due to conquest of several states. So its logical there are states who are fighting these days for freedom.
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elkavarez 1 year ago
@elkavarez No it is not logical! Do not compare this situation now to Majapahit Empire. At that time, expanding power through conquest is legal, but not now. If there any state was fighting for freedom will be considered as threat for the unity of the motherland and has to be terminated!
GanYangMal 1 year ago
@GanYangMal
good answer, only you tell it to the wrong person. you need to talk to langangajad who came with majahapit.
btw expanding power through conquest is never legal, so dont be proud of the past.
elkavarez 1 year ago
@elkavarez I'm forry for that. I just saw you comment on page 1, and I now confess that I have been done mistake.
So its logical there are states who are fighting these days for freedom.
it looked like
So its logical that there are states who are fighting these days for freedom.
I am sorry.
GanYangMal 1 year ago
@lanangejagad Wich option u gave timor? You didnt gave options, you attacked them in 1975. After almost 30 years you were forced to give them an option, so you never gave them options. Same with Maluku and Papua. Timor is Oceania, just like Papua and Maluku. Melanesian states. Majahapit means nothing to Papua and Maluku
elkavarez 1 year ago
@elkavarez will the russian-govt will give the-chechen-people a freedom as an independence-state?do you think srilankan-govt. will give tamilese a freedom tamilnadu-state?or if the maori-tribes want their independence,would your govt. or white-ppl will give them and get-out from their-lands?it`s simple for you hah?!
lanangejagad 1 year ago
Just like the civil war in 1999 in South Maluku. The government who was behind the war, and then blaming the RMS while the RMS had nothing to do with that war.
If Indonesia is right, you dont have to kill woman and children. That will only make other people think you're wrong. So Timor is right, Maluku is right, Papua is right and Aceh is right.
elkavarez 1 year ago
@elkavarez RMS is a small movements and only their founder-relatives whose still active.but they couldn`t do anything else coz they hasn`t big-support from another citizen!
lanangejagad 1 year ago
@lanangejagad same was said about East Timor. And when East Timor got free, people said that about RMS. And when South-Maluku gets free, people will say this about Papua. It will go on and on. Its only a matter of time before Indonesia will make a big mistake again. During the civil war in 1999, the Moluccans in Holland made a bad mistake by asking not to bring RMS flags to demonstrations. That was the biggest mistake they made, because it was exactly the right time to show RMS flags
elkavarez 1 year ago
indonesia watched too much star wars. Total domination of every culture in 1 republic, 1 empire, 1 leader, 1 government. Suharto "Orde Baru"?
1 leader for indonesia, then 1 leader for asia, then 1 leader for the whole world. Indonesia helping Dajjaal/Anti-Christ?
elkavarez 1 year ago
@elkavarez you`re totally wrong! did you see that we now like that?we`re focusing for our developments for the future from now on!
lanangejagad 1 year ago
@lanangejagad Its not fair. What if i destroy your house, and then say from now on we gonna focus on developments for the future?
You cannot invade and take over another country and then say from now on this or from now on that....give it back first and then develop.
elkavarez 1 year ago
@elkavarez is the east-timor that you mean,right? why theUN not to force indonesia for east-timor incidents?because they know that falintil killed hundreds of innocent-people at 1975 civil-war! & makes 350thousands people entering indonesian boder!and they know that many pro-indonesian east-timorese were murdered by fretilin last-days before referendum! we know that our army caused many people died but this is the consequnces of war(rebellion)!and we has been condemned & even get sanctions!
lanangejagad 1 year ago
@lanangejagad what about the Dili Masacre? What about the Indonesian terror in 1999 when 78,5% of the voters choose independence for East-Timor and the Indonesian army killed 2000 woman and children and students?
If Indonesia didnt invade Timor in 1975, fretlin wouldn't even excist. Dili Massacre would have never happened in 1999 and 2000 people would still be alive.
What monsters are Indonesia?
elkavarez 1 year ago
@elkavarez fretilin is falintil dude! santa-cruz incidents is army`s faults,we don`t argue for that.we has been condemned & sanction right?if you see the vid about santa-cruz you`ll be know why the army shooting-fires!
lanangejagad 1 year ago
@lanangejagad thats what im saying. If indonesia didnt invade Timor in 1975, falintil would even excist! see that's were we differ from each other. I am against terrorist actions. And the army was doing terrorist actions. The army was wrong no matter what the reason was. And majahapit is also wrong. Or shall the Italians attack Europe again and bring the Roman Empire back?
elkavarez 1 year ago
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@lanangejagad there is no authority. 2007 people get arrested for a dance and waving a flag. Arresting oke, they werent on the program. But years of jail?
You said it yourself, you came with the majahapit empire. Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor were all part of the majahapit empire. And they are all independent now.
elkavarez 1 year ago 2
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@lanangejagad there is no authority. 2007 people get arrested for a dance and waving a flag. Arresting oke, they werent on the program. But years of jail?
You said it yourself, you came with the majahapit empire. Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor were all part of the majahapit empire. And they are all independent now.
elkavarez 1 year ago 2
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I dont think, i know south maluku, west papua and aceh are countries.
There is no place in the world were 3 or 4 nations in 1 country are fighting for freedom. Only indonesia...and it sounds like more will come like bali and manado
elkavarez 1 year ago
It's true it dont have to be a matter of problem living among different cultures in 1 country. But the people from Aceh, Maluku & Papua do have a problem. Indonesia is fuckin their countries up. And before they were part of Indonesia, they didnt wanted to join Indonesia. So Indonesia fucked it up 2 times.
elkavarez 1 year ago
@elkavarez why you still thinking that aceh,southern-maluku(do`nt say all-maluku)&west-papua are countries?why you still thinking that we fucked them up?when we proclaim our independence there is no argue from them but dutch-govt.always being-rude&making-troubles by supporting peoples who want to join dutch-govt. with money,guns&promises!Now the-three provinces like the others have their authority themselves to ruling their people.being so hard now for the outsiders to provoke for separatism!
lanangejagad 1 year ago
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@lanangejagad there is no authority. 2007 people get arrested for a dance and waving a flag. Arresting oke, they werent on the program. But years of jail?
You said it yourself, you came with the majahapit empire. Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor were all part of the majahapit empire. And they are all independent now.
elkavarez 1 year ago 2
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@lanangejagad @lanangejagad there is no authority. 2007 people get arrested for a dance and waving a flag. Arresting oke, they werent on the program. But years of jail?
You said it yourself, you came with the majahapit empire. Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor were all part of the majahapit empire. And they are all independent now.
elkavarez 1 year ago 2
@lanangejagad you said it yourself, you came with the majahapit empire. And Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor are all independent now. If Aceh, South Maluku and West Papua were part of Majahapit, they should definitely be independent too.
elkavarez 1 year ago
@elkavarez because they are not dutch colonies.when youth-movements declares for united of indonesia in1928,it only speaks about netherlands east-indies(dutch-colony) only! this is bad-impact of white`s-colonization,and we are splited for that reason!
lanangejagad 1 year ago
@lanangejagad exactly. So you say actually Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor should be part of Indonesia too? Doe Indonesia should also become hindu empire again? Should all muslims must become hindu again? Majahapit Empire, R.I., Roman Empire, Nazi-Germany......Those were empires, and never have been 1 country.
elkavarez 1 year ago
@lanangejagad
The youtplegde in 1928 was more a cooperation against the Dutch colonization. It says nothing about South Maluku or West Papua as a nation being part of Indonesia.
elkavarez 1 year ago
@elkavarez if they speaks about dutch east-indies it means west-papua include! please stop talking about south-maluku!coz in the past maluku is parts & ruled by tidore & ternate kingdoms! after our independence,dutch govt. try to provoke southern-maluku(christian-mayority) people to get independence from indonesia by dutch govt.-supports!they build a movement called 'republik-maluku-selatan' and dutch also built 'organisasi-papua-merdeka'. but they were failed till now on!
lanangejagad 1 year ago
@lanangejagad @lanangejagad exactly, and what is ternate and tidore? Maluku. Only North Maluku didn't want to be independent from indonesia. So thats their choice.
Dutch are bastards, they wanted South Maluku to be independent so they can rule over indonesia with Moluccans help. But the definition of RMS got nothing to do with Dutch. Freedom to the people and justice.
elkavarez 1 year ago
@elkavarez it`s better if you study about nusantara/indonesia-past.you`ll know that in maluku-area there is two islamic-kingdoms the rules the area! dutch-govt. try to do religion`s-persuassive with southern-maluku`s people coz they`re christian-mayority!
lanangejagad 1 year ago
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@lanangejagad why werent they dutch colonies? Because the majahapit was an empire and not 1 country. If it was 1 country, then Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor would automatically fall under the Dutch rule. Majahapit is dangerous. You choose for power/domination/control instead of the will of the people. You must listen to the people
elkavarez 1 year ago
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@lanangejagad @lanangejagad why werent they dutch colonies? Because the majahapit was an empire and not 1 country. If it was 1 country, then Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor would automatically fall under the Dutch rule. Majahapit is dangerous. You choose for power/domination/control instead of the will of the people. You must listen to the
elkavarez 1 year ago
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@lanangejagad yea why werent they dutch colonies? Because the majahapit was an empire and not 1 country. If it was 1 country, then Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei, southern Thailand, the Philippines, and East Timor would automatically fall under the Dutch rule. Majahapit is dangerous. You choose for power/domination/control instead of the will of the people. You must listen to the
elkavarez 1 year ago
@lanangejagad Pandai sungguh kamu Indog berbicara dlm bahasa Majikan kami. Kamu ternyata kuat liat saja lawannya sama dayak saja. Kamu juga pakar sejarah ya Pak? Kerajaan Majapahit Kerajaan Palempang dan macam macam lagi kerajaan purba kamu kaji ya. Mengapa TNI ngak bisa mempertahankan Timur Timor? Kerajaan Jawa kamu ngak kuat si.... omongnya kosong macam kamu bunyinya nyarig baunya tempe. Kamu sekarang udah jadi kacung Inggris ya Pak?
berukendon 9 months ago
@berukendon belajar sejarah jing,jangan nge-homo melulu!
lanangejagad 9 months ago
@lanangejagad Sejarah kamu belajar dari mana Indog?
berukendon 9 months ago
@berukendon kenapa loe nanya?karena bangsa-loe sejarah-nya nggak-jelas yaa wkwkwkwk!
lanangejagad 9 months ago
@lanangejagad loh sejarah juga mengajar kamu di maling maling sejarah kamu engak bisa bikin apa apa. sejarah bangsa ku bukan untuk bangsa mu jika berani mari ka mari Kamu hanya mampu lihat belakang dan cerita cerita dongeng embah kamu lihat ka depan ngak mampu si.
berukendon 9 months ago
@berukpekong sejarah juga yang membuktikan bahwa kalian malayshit adalah bangsa-maling hehehehe..!
lanangejagad 9 months ago
U see. It's a shame when you have to say that your own country is fucked-up by Indonesia. But when Timor is now fucked-up, it's their own fault. Much better then somebody else fucking your land up.
elkavarez 1 year ago
@elkavarez yeah,you`re right! it is an expensive-lesson for us that we must stay in our 'non-block' political-view and we`re now working-hard to do that!
lanangejagad 1 year ago
@lanangejagad yea don't understand me wrong. The western countries are the true bastards behind this all. Killing, colonizing, murdering, setting land borders, devide et impera all under the name of "civilization". Civilization at any costs. But dont let indonesia make that same mistake. Unity is good. But you cant force ppl, it wil