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  • great tight little unit, two great singers

  • This is the Texas Intl Pop Festival in 69. There is an hour + long tv show on youtube I just watched with this clip.

  • my dad faked his way out of vietnam.. heroic

  • i wanna go see motorhead

  • My dad (WW-II) never put my music down even though he didn't care for it, so I don't put my 20 year old kids music down. Even though I don't care for it..lol..

  • I'm kinda thinking this was at the Texas International Pop Festival held north of Dallas about 1969, just a few months after Woodstock. Grand Funk opened the Festival and this was supposedly the first song they played.

  • I love these rockin videos from the late 60s early 70s. The sound isn't great, but the ENERGY takes my right back. Saw GFR in 1971 at their best and I'll never forget it. Even though I have to be 56 years old to say it, I am SO GLAD I grew up when I did. It teach high school. There is no passion in kids like we had in the 60s/70s.

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  • waz this at wood stock?

  • @Mrm0nG0 - No not Woodstock.

  • @Mrm0nG0 - It was the Atlantic Pop Music Festival 1969. Grand Funk was not signed at this time. 

  • Look at all the people in the audience loking all bummed out and sitting still.. i would have been jumping out of my shoes. 

  • @paulgad Everyone's probably too stoned lol

  • 26 people weren't ready.

  • They are just kids !  18 and 20 !

  • homer show me this band

  • Man. You have got to love the dudes sitting in the lawn chairs. Like they are at uncle johns backyard picnic party. What the fuck is that. Man, I will teel you what. Those wre the days. I Do not think rock shows like this happen now.........

  • Kick butt rock and roll = the way it's supposed to be!

  • y like make the love listening this song,is very exciting and you can take the rittmin..

    jajajjajaja

  • So sweet, just so sweet and rawwwwwwwwwww!

  • Oh, hell yeah!!! I was always ready to rock with Grand Funk!!! They always were #1 in my rock n roll book!!!

  • *to all that disliked this video*

    if you don't get this or like this then go back to watching The Carpenters, you don't know rock'n'roll

  • they really kicked a groove! well done!

  • for the 24 dislikes of this vid......Really? you're a rocker and you don't like this vid ? really?

  • @sirwob the youth of today is floating away towards computerized, flat iq-ed, 'perfectioned' marketingrock. but there is also a younger generation who embrasses the origins of rock, thank God. Rougher than this you just can't get! :)

  • @terpstragil sad but true

  • @terpstragil btw, if I'm not mistaken Farners hair was a lot longer at Atlanta concert, this was from their first album, my guess would be VERY late '68 (though most claim they came out in '69)or early '69, Grand Funk Live was Atalanta was August '69 and Marks hair was longer and it was their 3rd album, I doubt they made 3 albums in '69

  • @sirwob fuck yeah im ready! grand funk rooooles!!!!!!!!!

  • @sirwob one of the greatest live bands ever

    

  • @sirwob those people are IGNANT! :D

  • @ibl33d I believe you meant ignorant.....am I right dumb ass?

  • @sirwob It may be the sound quality. Sucks. I'm 56; a guitar player; and heavily influenced by Mark. I don't think the dislikes are for the band so much as the sound of this track.

  • @Dogheadj I honestly hope thats what it is

  • @sirwob There idiots.

  • I never s ceases to amaze me how those guys have been so followed, videod and photgraphed. The just seem to morph back and forth as I watch the offers. 17-62 years old, now that is a solid body of work.

  • AWESOME ! REALLY AWESOME !!

  • Mark Don and Mel before they added the sissy keyboards! Never got any better than this!:)

  • 2:46 hahaha camera man...good idea.

  • I believe the crowed was too stoned to appreciate the music...

  • that crowd wasn't ready for rock

  • Which show was this? Atlanta or Texas. And when? The guy who posted should know because the posts agrue about this. I like that people are sitting down for once so theres no aggressive pushing like you have at shows today. However, in the 1st half of the video, most of the crowd look bored or annoyed as if to say,"Hey Man,don't film me!" Still, I would've loved to have been there!

  • Total rip off of Mustang Sally! did Pickett get anything for this song?! WOW!

  • @socrates1818 as Voltaire said, there's no such thing as an original thought, it applies to music as well

  • I'M READY TO SEE MARK FARNER ON FRIDAY NIGHT WOOHOO!!..Peace and Thx

  • i'd give my left testicle (idk why anyone would want it) to go back and be there, or atlanta.

    zeppelin and gfr in the same concert... 1969 was the year.

  • I was here also. It's the Texas International Pop Festival held two weeks after Woodstock. Crowd's a little listless because the heat and sun were killer.

  • What the hell was wrong with the crowd here? Were they deaf? They were witness to greatness and slept through it....................

  • Under-rated,under appreciated.Bad Time to be in Love would crack the top 10 tomorrow if it were released today.

  • Awesome video! From the archives!! Thanks for sharing this!

  • Fantastici!!!!

  • I disagree that this was at the Atlanta festival. I believe it was at the Texas International Pop Festival in Lewisville, Texas. Three reasons 1) The Texas Flag on the wall. 2) You can see the old Texas International Raceway behind the audience. 3) I was there...

  • This is one of the earliest vids of these cats man they fucking rocked.

  • I still can't believe that Grand Funk is not in the rock and roll hall of fame.I am 53 years old and there was no American band better than these guys.

  • Great fuzztone!!! Who could recommend me some records by GFR? I don´t have aclue which is worth getting

  • @FINLETTU american band is the best hard rock,,,grand funk grand funk is the coolest.

  • @FINLETTU "Closer To Home" is a good one. "On Time" captures some good early energy. "Grand Funk - Live Album" is my all time favorite. Any or all of those three are worth having.

  • great!!!

  • Ah, man!!! What happened to the music industry??!?!? THIS IS AWESOME!!! Everything today is crap!!! I MISS GRAND FUNK RAILROAD!!!! (Early GFR!!)

  • this is from the first Atlanta pop fest in 1969 one month before Woodstock

  • Good memories. When I saw them, this is the tune they opened with, and they sounded great. The opening act was Bloodrock, remember them?

  • Why can't music still be the way it was in the 60's and 70's? :(

  • Glad I got to see them back then!---Hey pass that joint!!--Peace & Love Everyone!!

  • Si, estamos listos......Grande GF

  • Very interesting video document . I'm fascinated by the various 1969/70 happy and hippy faces there.Music is perfect.Thanks Mark, Mel and Don.

  • yES IT BRINGS MEMORIES OF GOOD AND BAD TIMES!PEOPLE WERE KILLED IN VIETNAM ALMOST EVERYDAY AND GFR BROUGHT SOME SENSE OF COMFORT BACK THEN TO PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD,ESPECIALLY THE YOUNGSTERS WHO ARE NOW OLD IF NOT DEAD!!tHANKS FOR THE CLIP,REALLY APPRECIATE IT!!

  • I always wondered why GFR never went to Gibson, being that the factory at time was in Kalamazoo.

    What a kick ass band.......

  • Just prior to this performance, Chip Monck, the "deadpan announcer dude", both here at Dallas and Woodstock (famous for the comment about the "brown acid") paid GFR one of the nicest, unsolicited compliment that he didn't have to give, and to my knowledge, never gave when announcing any other perfomer. He said "they perform with great spirit, even when they perform for free". What a nice thing to say, even though he did get their last name wrong ("Rail-way")

  • What a "boxy" 'cheap guitar'" sound... love it! Anyone have any thoughts/comments?

    love it!!

  • @frankenstein909 ..a "sound" you can only get from an extremely rare aluminum-necked axe with a built-in fuzztone run through Michigan-built amplifiers. A sound that made GFR stand out from all other groups, because NO ONE ELSE in rock used this same equipment!

  • @frankenstein909 It didn't sound cheap and boxy live. To this day I've never heard a band with such a kick ass live sound as Grand Funk. Mel Schacher sounded like a tank battalion coming down a paved road. Scary. And loud as hell. Videos don't do these guys justice. I saw them at the 1st Atlanta Pop Festival. They played for free just to perform in front of a large crowd. I'm so thankful to have experienced that moment when no one knew them and 5 minutes later, everyone knew them

  • I don't know if this has been asked, because I don't want to read through 270 comments, but isn't this from one of GFRs first concerts? Where they opened for and blew Led Zeppelin off the stage. No one knew who they were, but I'm sure that they didn't forget after these concerts.

  • their first concert ,, atlanta pop festivel,, they didnt open for anybody,, just one of the acts.

  • @spiritoradio This is footage from the Texas Pop festival, exactly two weeks after Woodstock and two months after their debut at Atlanta Pop. Zeppelin was also here, from this same film performing "Dazed and Confused". Which has long prompted me to ask the question: Why wasn't EITHER band at Woodstock?

  • @notfragile33 voy a aprovechar tu espacio notfragile33 para hablar en español.sobre los recuerdos de grand funk para mi.yo soy de mexicali mexico y me recuerda mi epoca de sucundaria"highchool con toda la psicodelia de los 70"s.el pelo largo en los hombres,camisas floreadasy pantalon acampanado"friscos".gracias jorge2010

  • @notfragile33 Zeppelin were far too important in their own minds to share the stage with anyone at that point. Also, they would have insisted on being paid at least 100K

  • @mikedonn71 yeah, but they both started at around the same time (late '68/early '69) with similar backgrounds--both evolving from the wrecakge of two similar bands--The Pack and the Yardbirds

  • This was at the Atlanta POP feastival from 7/4/1969, GFR's 1st important concert.

    You can find out much more on the "History of Grand Funk" on YouTube, a 5 part documentary.

  • @spiritoradio People didn't know GFR or Zeppelin at the 1st Atlanta Pop Festival. I handed out posters for several months before the festival & didn't know who the hell any of these guys were...GFR, Zeppelin, Chicago, Blood Sweat & Tears, Johnny & Edgar Winter, Spirit, Canned Heat...but Everyone knew all of them by the time Woodstock happened a month later. Without the 1st Atlanta Pop Festival happening first, Woodstock might have been a small crowd. Folks went straight from the Atlanta to NY

  • i have G.F.R full show in Tokyo 1974 on dvd if an one is interested, message me : )

  • thanks mate will deffiantly look into it.

  • im new to this band but i think there sick can anyone recommend an album i don't just want to get the gratest hits because i think you miss out on some amaizing music.

  • My favorite is their second album simply entitled "Grand Funk" better known as the Red Album.

  • Ok, My first suggestion would be "We're An American Band". I am a huge fan - and believe that this album shows off their talents with some great production.

    For a more RAW feel, go with their first album -- simply titled Grand Funk. It is the Red one.

  • really? you wouldn't suggest "On Time"? more of GFR's early showstoppers they played in concerts are on this album than on the Red Album

  • @keithh1999 - On Time was the first album. Grand Funk (red album) was the second album. Very east to get confused.

  • @mrflab1987 I would recommend E Pluribus Funk

  • thanks man

  • yeah, that's ^ for sure. i got the Greatest Hits for the DVD. i recommend: "On Time", "Red Album", "Closer To Home", "Live (1970)", "Survival" for some, "Live 1971", "E Pluribus Funk", "We're An American Band", "Caught In The Act", "All The Girls In The World Beware" for some, "Good Singin', Good Playin' ".

    perhaps "Phoenix", "Shinin' On" and "Live In Bosnia", i don't have those, yet

  • @mrflab1987 Get 'On Time' ...American Band didn't come out until several years later. By then, most GFR fans thought they had gone commercial and lost that raw, balls to the wall performing spirit. American Band or Foot Stompin Music are decent commercial tunes, but not even in the same ball park as TNUC or Into The Sun...if you're after the real GFR essence

  • To anyone who was at Texas Pop--really? Who needs Woodstock when you can have everyone who was there PLUS the Railroad and Zeppelin..Need I say more?

  • You are so right man!

    That was the right true rock with soul!

    I miss the old times with that feeling.....

  • I'm 23, but all my childhood I've been listening GFR and LedZepelin. This is true and pure rock. Made by great people with great skills for music. Now, in those times, actual rock sucks...doesn't have the SOUL!!

  • The first rock concert I ever saw was GFR at The Forum in Los Angeles, 1971. Freddie King was the opening act, the first real Blues man I ever saw too. I was in 9th grade and I remember it like it was yesterday. I'll be 53 this year. Cheers!

  • @aeropilot Hi aeropilot, I was at that show as well, i was in 7th grade, from Downey Ca. I recently worked in Detroit Mi. on the Red Dawn remake and on a weekend off went to Flint, (home of GFR) and got some great photos of the GFR train bridge, You can viewthis bridge on the upsetter you tube clip,

  • Unbelievably apathetic crowd, which is typical of 1969-1970. A shame, as Grand Funk Railroad is bang on in this performance.

  • This clip is from Texas Pop Fest which ran from Aug. 31 to sept 2 or so, in 1969.. using the same PA as Woodstock..driven down in 2 flatbed trucks. I have the Texas Pop Fest video. Strange productiion.

  • if i'm not mistaken chicago played this show also it was a big jump off or on how ever you want to put it for both groups/

  • I'm pretty sure you're right.. certainly for the big breaks both bands got.

  • Brings back a lot of great memories. Saw them in back to back nights at the Forum in L.A. right after the live album came out. This song started both shows and boy was I ready! Thanks for the post.

  • This song reminds me of Mountains's Tales of milk and honey song..Keep in mind that this song led off this concert and alot of the Zombie crowd have never heard of these guys yet..they started coming arround near the end..Which is typical Zombo reaction

  • very early stuff, this was featured in the documentary on the band....

  • fuckin' zombie crowd...

  • that was my first impreshion too. i would of been rockin out in my spot!

    and i do now :)

  • :0.09....Mel stops playing and turns himself to the amps....bad cable connection? 2:30....Mel plays a phrase in a classic "ostinato" mode.....he plays bass chords while Farner is soloing....Donnie screams as usual....great great great....lyrics directly down to earth...really they talked to the people....i know almost everything about them....

  • 3:04...a young Terry Knight can be viewed..tks to him we had GFR, never forget...

  • Yeah and thanks to him he almost derailed Grand Funk forever.

  • i really don't think so, you are completely wrong...you don't know in fact that if mark & the others would have waited for the natural contract's expire the band would have been completely safe...therefore, before talking in vain, try to deepen the facts....

  • Actually I do know that if they would've waited 3more months until the contact was up they never would've been sued. But by that time, I don't blame them for wanting to be free of him. They were probably never told before hand to wait 3 months until the contract was up. Knight was turning into a Peter Grant. In the sense that he was very much about "GFR is MY group". He was taking more prophets then anyone else and I'd try and get rid of him too if I were Mark, Don, or Mel.

  • yes, for sure terry was bad because business became his only faith and he was no more the fourth brother...peter grant was a criminal and a mafia man and zep took him for good...mark, don & mel back then were too young and fired knight immediately...it was like a treson matter but they did a big mistake...and the grand funk railroad almost derailed only for their own fault...phoenix is a very bad album compared to e pluribus...the magic was gone forever with terry....this obv. in my opinion

  • Raw and awesome.

  • he means he was born in 1950.

  • check out the guy grooving at 3:08, terry knight, there manager.

  • Thanks for posting. I was 19 (*1950) when I heard GFR first time. It was amazing. Mark Farner was my idol for playing guitar. Inside looking out, heartbreaker, are you ready.....great stuff. I played it again an again. But in the livingroom my sound was very bad;=))

    Greetz from Germany

  • Um, 1950?? I hope that's a typo.

  • thats about as raw funk as you can get ! killer!

  • Indiana is a wasteland.

  • thx 4 posting! awesome!!

  • Timeless! Classic rock from 1 of the pioneer bands of the late 60's/early 70's. I saw them perform in Hyde Park in the summer of 71 and I will say now what I said then - FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @zetros2  Haha, I bet you didn't say "Awesome", you prolly said "Groovy and FAR OUT!!"

  • @GatewayGhettoProd - No, I wasn't one of those flower power pansies, it was definitely fucking awesome (and it still is!)

  • @zetros2 lol, I never heard a young person say the word "awesome" until around 1980, but I'll take your word for it (especially since a friend of mine insists he never heard anyone say "groovy" in the 60's or 70s unless it was Greg Brady or Keith Partridge...)

  • I love the crowds reaction in this video at first people are like who the fuck are these clowns, then in the middle they are saying to each hey there not bad at all and by the end they are rockin out like there the greatest thing ever its aewsome

  • Woodstock was like Disneyland. Everyone wants to have been there for the experience, but was the "entertainment value" (or lack therof) really worth the trip?

    At the Texas Pop festival (which this was) you basically got all the same people as Woodstock PLUS the Railroad and Zeppelin!

    And it was a whole lot closer to the heart of America and much more accessible for people to get to than upstate New York

  • Thanks so much for postuing this!!!

    Anyone have any live video of the band that warmed up for GFR and Rare Earth on one of the tours around this time called Sainte Anthony's Fyre??? Listed on the concert ticket and poster on the Red Album??

  • GFR Rocks!! I was 15 when this song came out so I am a little biased!

    Look up "heavy" in the dictionary and it simply says "GFR"...

  • ohh yeahhhh live Gran Funk .. from Chile

  • Used to cover several GFR songs when I sang for the GO at Fort Bragg & Fayetteville, NC fantastic time had by all!. Thanks GFR!

  • Thank you Grand Fun Railroad for this great song. I like this song a lotttttttttttttttttttttttttttt ttttt. It is like caffeine in the morning, I neeed to have to have my 3 cups of coffee to function. I hope they play one more time for all the die hard fans and today 5/10/09 my mind is traveling around the globe to wish all the mothers a Happy Mother's Day. Greetings from LA. CA. USA......Let's play this song real louddddddddddddddddd!!!!!!!

  • Great Rock Song

    Grand Funk Rocks

  • yeah and this song on the live album is killer !!!!!!

  • Wow! Mark, Don & Mel...COOL! Grand Funk Really was a superb band in the late 60's & early 70"s.

    Thanks for the video!

    Zee

  • funny how at 0:11 the bass dies. Same thing happened on the same song (1st of set) when I saw them in 1975.

  • awesome yeah are you ready to get high on the revolution,those three guys harmonized like black women in the choir simply beutifull amazing and thankfully imortilzed on the you tube rock on roll hall of fame bonzo76rockon!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • definitely 1969, nobody seems to now what the frig is goin' on...Farner not quite nude on stage yet...but what a great tune that is.....

  • I just wish I could have seen it! ~e

  • first concert I saw in '70- 5th row in CHI- REALLY LOUD. ears were ringing for 3 days.

  • This was the same day that The Rolling Stones played in Hyde Park in London.

    2 days after Brian Jones died.

  • GREAT!!!

  • I was at this festival. still have the poster advert framed and hanging over my half stack now.

  • ready for the sun? lol

    ps. for all your information, doob and coffe really gets ya there !!!!!!!!!!

  • By the way! The dead only played one song!! Aquarious let the sunshine in. It lasted 2.5 hours Me

  • Sunday noon July 5, 1969. GFR just showed up to play Saturday and Sunday. I don't believe they were paid to play. The bill was incredible, each band played both days. GFR, Pacific Gas and Electric, Its a Beautiful Day, Al Kooper, Johnny Winter, Janice, Canned Heat, & Led Zepplin. Joe Cocker Closed . All for $14.00 a day. 350,000 stoned freeks in the infield at Atlanta Speedway.  A Free concert just happened on Monday night at Piedmont Park with Spirit, Delany & Bonny, CTA and the Dead

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  • ta la raja el video muy la zorra

  • GREAT!THANKS FOR THAT VIDEO!!!

  • this was the 1969 atlanta pop festival..this was the birth of the american band grand funk...i'm 25 and a huge funk fan..but trust me i saw this on the vh1 behind the music on grandfunk...this was the 1st time they performed out of Mi and there was over 180 thousand people there!!!!

  • GFR was one of my favorit bands in the early and mid 70ies - now 30 years later I still find them great. Unfortunatelly the quality is not good. Oh yes, the outfit - we all had these clothings and long hair.

  • That's fun!

  • the quality of sound is horrible but grand funk are so good that you don't even mention it!

  • This is too awesome for words. It totally transports me back to that time. I saw this band about 5 times. They blew me away. And hearing this now does it for me all over again. It's cool to remember and relive it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Hi, I'am 22 and I from Peru(South America) But I like this HARD ROCK!! The Old School rocks!! like LedZepellin,GFRRoad, The Who...man, is not my "age music", but I don't the trash that I hear on radio now. My mom used to hear GFRR and other great bands when I was a child. Till now...IS PURE HARD ROCK!!

  • Behold a simple three man band, with no gimmicks,no hype, just old school sound and full of passion! Oh, they did not play for money, they played for the simple thrill of playing... savy?!

  • Hi, I'am 22 and I from Peru(South America) But I like this HARD ROCK!! The Old School rocks!! like LedZepellin,GFRRoad, The Who...man, is not my "age music", but I don't the trash that I hear on radio now. My mom used to hear GFRR and other great bands when I was a child. Till now...IS PURE HARD ROCK

  • God i love this

  • The eyes of that little girl at the end--amazing finish.

  • great footage ! thanks for sharing !

  • right from the get go? this band knew what they wanted from themselves musically. wonderful. thanks.

  • How great were they , even Arabs at 1: 30 came over to see them , now that's world wide .

  • LOL !!

    I enjoyed that hippie babe at 1:28 - 1:31 much better !

  • this is more like woodstock era 69/70 than 70's...the 70's changed around 73, 74...it all poofed...by mid 70's. But the 80s made up for it, in a different kind of way :)

    You'd never see a crowd acting like this again...sad.

  • My guess would be at in Turtle Island (isn't an island) near Ann Arbor, MI

  • I'd say that crowd at Shea Stadium in '71 was VERY "Woodstock-ian". The 60s were still in full-bloom!

  • cool, but bad sound qUALITY

  • I love this band!

    It is best band of 70th age!

    I'm fell so bad sometimes, because I didn't born in this age!

    Grand funk forever!

  • thanks for this-nicely stoned,the 70s were the bomb

  • saw them 3 or 4 times back then

  • Where is the rest of this concert? Please tell me it exists and didn't get taped over. This is the tour that blew GFR up! They went from openers to record breakers in less than a year and it was this live tour that blew everyone away.

    So your telling me, this song is the only recording of that historical tour? Where's the headliner? Is this it?

  • Answers to your questions and a BIG question of my own.

    This is from the Texas Pop festival near Dallas-last week of Aug 1969, 2 weeks after Woodstock. Virtually every band at Woodstock played this festival, plus GFR, Chicago and Led Zeppelin--which, in my opinion, made it better than Woodstock! Parts of the festival are on tape, and I have a copy.

    Okay, the million dollar question for me is: How did GFR and Led Zeppelin manage to play every major festival in 1969 except for Woodstock?

  • Wow, you sure know how to make friends! Yes, this would have been WAY better, screw Woodstock. Was Hendrix there? Santana? Zeppelin? Holy shit they were writing & recording Zepp II while touring that summer. Plus GFR's red album!! I'd give my left nut.

    As for your question, who the hell knows?! Probably different organizers? Woodstock had a lotsa folksy shit, this show would have been my cup!! 1969 was a blow up year for musical direction.  You gonna load? Say yes and let me know!

  • Well, the trade-off at Texas pop was Zeppelin, Chicago, and GFR instead of The Who, Mountain, and Hendrix. Santana was at Texas, though. Ten Years After played a cool version of "Spoonful" on this vid. Zeppelin had just recorded "II", but played a wicked version of "Dazed" on this vid. GFR had "On Time" out, but was a month or two away from recording "RED".

    Janis Joplin was the headliner--her coming home.

  • I wished I could remember what rock magazine I ordered the VHS tape of this festival out of--it was about 10 years ago. The title of the film is: "Got No Shoes, Got No Blues: the 1969 Texas Int'l Pop Festival". It might be worth looking for on the net. I don't have the mecahnism to load it, since I only have access to library computers at the moment.

    Another interesting note, in attendance at this festival was Kerry Livgren, who was so captivated by GFR's performance, he formed Kansas!

  • Awesome, awesome, awsome! Thanks so much for the info. Your right, GFR's first, "On Time" would have been about a week old when they played this concert. They would have been literally unknown, but getting ("Are You) ready" to just blow the top off an amazing run!! Pretty sure Zepp II came out in Oct. 69, they were going nonstop and wrote II on the road. They definitely would have been doing II stuff at this concert. I just realized GFR and Zepp finished their first two albums in 1969!

  • In response to your last comments, there were many parallels between the Railroad and Zeppelin, besides being named after a mode of transport.

    Both bands came out of the gate around late'68/early'69 as a re-named further evolution of a previous band (The Pack and The Yardbirds), both debut albums featured re-worked versions of songs from those previous bands, and both had flamboyant managers who got them their own subsidiary record labels ("Grand Funk" in '71, and "Swan Song" in '72)