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  • Can somebody help me? When I do the move, I can kick my leg and swing my arms back but I can't flip backwards... My friends told me that only my head tilted to the back but not my body.

  • sorry but thats a J-Step.. watch Ryan Doyle's J-Step tutorial, he does exactly this!

  • i remember watching this when i first started (:

  • This is Good Tutorial !

  • I love how aesthetic he make this move look. He does like a hook kick with the other leg.

  • Cheat Gainer Then u see a dead guy

  • erm, you pulled down your left leg, which isn't your kicking leg. am i wrong?

  • For the cheat gainer, your non kicking leg kicks by itself or do you make it kick?

  • How many times did you break your neck to learn this? =)

  • he makes that looking proper easy, but i'm almost certain if i try this i'll just crater

  • Just wanted to know that Do we also have to arch our Back?

  • Oh yeah well my grand can't do that so your wrong

  • @nopacnone My height is 1,77 and I weigh 89kg. Is it possible to me to perform this trick? I can do the Carthwheel pretty easy.

  • @SpecialOperations just go out and try it

  • @SpecialOperations Omg,you can do cartwheel,amazing,you can do cheat gainer without problems...

  • did anyone learned this flip because of the video here?

    mean the description is nice but u need skill to learn this

  • Imagine drop kicking some one in the jaw like that

  • aka, j-flip -.-

  • Shieeett i have to learn it :D

  • Is this AKA the Moonkick or whatever?

  • @Mcl0vin11 yuup

  • @Mcl0vin11 kick the moon has more of a hook kick in it

  • im prob not doing right so can some1 correct, I J step, swing right leg towards left shoulder aswell as swinging my arms forward and up then i jump and attempt to look over my left shoulder at the ground while turning my body from momentum and then i body slam the ground...

  • I've linked this video to listofmoves dot co dot uk :)

  • THis really helped!

  • im confused i can cheat gainer but not backflip :/ owell :D

  • @billy7211 Haha, probably you CAN do a backflip, but you just don't dare it, wich I had too :P

  • @ggalaggo oohh lol so this is sort of like a backflip but you do a j-step and do a diagonal flip so all i got to do is stay straight and not do a j-step?? and then wala i should be able to backflip? :D

  • @billy7211 Everyone should be able to backflip :P, but is is more a kick the moon, with a sideflip in it, I can't do this but I can backflip xD, everytime I try this I just do a tunnel flip :(

  • @ggalaggo lol i thanks man ill stick at it :) where do u guys train to??

  • @billy7211 Who is us guys? xD I'm currently not in parkour-rotterdam anymore, I am in flyrunners now :P But what do you mean with train to, english isn't my foreign language you see

  • @ggalaggo oooohhh ok dont worry mate :)

  • I'm not sure how to learn all these backflips.... How should I progress? Is a roundoff backtuck easier than a cheat gainer? Or should I start with a wallflip?

  • Awesome!

  • cheat gainer with a bag on :) skills

  • 0:34 just casually walking home from school...

  • @HaloKing179 going home like a boss

  • thats a kick the moon not a cheat gainer LOL XD

  • @HaloStrikes Kick the moon you turn 180 degrees before doing an aerial gainer. This has no turn until airborne.

  • @HaloStrikes correction on previous comment: not aerial, flashkick

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  • @HaloStrikes no mate it's a cheat gainer :L

  • it looks sooo eazy....is it advanced dan back tuck

  • @dabbuful its a cheat.. sometimes you can do it with out backtuck whenever i could perfert my tuck and cork i will make videos too

  • can you look at my slant gianer vid

    and tell me if its ok

    any tips are apprciated

  • i leant this move today i love it

  • guys and remember u have to tuck with this otherwise it will come out sketchy

  • i dont understand ... So we kick then jump up or to the side ? Can someone please explain with words ? I really love this move and thanks for this tutorial ... But can u show it in super slow motion ?

  • is it a good idea to know how to backflip to do these? and is it good to know these before a cork?

  • @Colfitimal to corck is essential , the cheat gainer, and the moonkik, the moonkik is a flashkik cheat gainer, and to do that, you can learn before the backflip or not, if yo are worried, learn backflip but don´t do a normal backflip in the cheat, you must turn your body ;)

  • @kepasabboy ok thx man

  • Short, sweet, to the point, lots of examples (good ones too), step by step with the move good tutorial!

  • thats more like a moonkick....

  • @CJandu moon kick is with strenght legs :D

  • thanks i have mastered the cheat gainer and im 12 lol

  • @supercheesehead15 yeah.. you are really a wonder child

  • @supercheesehead15 OH YEAH? well im 21 and i havent. so.... there.

  • @bioobird it took a lot of tries tho i almost broke my neck twice !!!!

  • @supercheesehead15 fail u must have done like a werid cheat gainer cause the first time i did this i landed directly on my feet u probablly did the neck breaker

  • @supercheesehead15 video proof pleeease

  • Ahhh... I always instinctively tuck! 

  • WIN. THANKYOU. just went outside, and after about 9 tries i can land it ;) nt very well but win. cheers man

  • This move wrecks me...I can do a regular gainerflash fine, but I have serious trouble trying to work out slanting it.

  • @lJohnTheDreamerl it took me so long, but alot of people tuck, i find cheat gainers harder that way, i always did gainer flash so it took me months to learn the cheat, but once you learn it and can do gainer flash it's really easy to cheat

  • @markwoodland1 What?? You just cannot tuck a cheat gainer man

  • @abarusso i can now, a day after i posted the comment i did it XD

  • WHEN'S THE CORK TUTORIAL YOU PROMISED

    PLEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!

    I'M DYYYYING FOR IT!!!!!!

  • @markwoodland1 its in your butt

  • @bioobird oh your right, thanks

  • wtfff i just landed cheat gainer for the first time yesterday i was so excited and i can't even land it anymore!

  • @3SAUGAT u must make it a habit get used to it just rain and train the first time i landed b-kick i was to excited and i couldnt either land it but i trained hard and now i can do it XD good luck

  • @MrPyrotech96 YESSSSSS! I GOT MY CHEAT GAINER AGAIN NOW I AM GONNA PRATICE FOR 4 HOURS NON STOP SO I NEVER FORGOT IT

  • I like the last one nice

  • moonkick baby

  • Haha nicely done with a backpack on your back :p

  • now i don't know if i am doing a cork or a cheat gainer

  • @devon3925 a cork is a mix between a butterfly twist and a cheat gainer soooo, basically in a cork there is a spin and in a cheat gainer its just the flip

  • @KOhannon96 ok thanks

  • hmm i actually think cheat gainers are harder than gainers... just can't quite go from straight back to the side

  • @ninjayc dude, i'm having the exact same problem...

    any help??

  • @MoeApeCon just try looking at the floor when your at the peak of your jump, like hesitating, but not really hesitating, get what i mean?

  • @iamdance11 makes sense, ima try that next time. thanks dude

  • @ninjayc Try looking over your shoulder. That'll turn your body sideways rather than backwards.

  • this is a step below corkscrews

    which are impossible.

  • @JMRabil675 not imposible you just need to eford

  • i'm pretty sure i'll be able to land one of those thanks to this video...i just need to learn how to levitate now.

  • This has to be the cleanest cheat gainer I've seen so far

  • ha I thought this was going to be hella easier ;) my mistake

  • normal gainer for me is much more easier

  • I did this standing and by accident. lol

  • kool thanks...

  • please help me, i'm desperate, whenever i try to do a cheat gainer i always fail, after i kick up and try to look over my shoulder i'm never in the right position, if anyone wants a video to show what i do then ask me but i really am desperate to do this move

  • thats ah moon kick

  • @darranmattila ...You mean loser.

  • Can you please explain the differences between this and folha seca? (Moon-kick)

  • @Topera151 it's the same thing

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  • is that andrea catozi

  • why is full gainer harder than the normal cheat gainer? im a noob at flips

  • @bboymonk3y full gainer? You mean "normal" gainer... in cheat gainer You dont have to flip over,you "cheat" = no need of backflip. thus its easier coz its less scary

  • @lukas2500 ooo ok then. :)

  • can you do this gainer with your legs tucked in? im not good at the kicking part.

  • @juliusoh yes You can.

  • in the cheat gainers case you flip backwards diagonally while gaining ground forward

  • pretty sure its cause you gain momentum not ground :l

  • whats more difficult a cheat gainer or an illusion twist?

  • I only know how to do a backflip and a cheat gainer(thanks to this vid) what move should i learn next? also i don't have a trampoline and or take gymnastic.

  • @3SAUGAT Learn a corkscrew, they are easy, will teach you to twist, which you will find really useful for learning new tricks, and they look really impressive. They are also a really useful move for when you start putting combos together.

    You can learn into a sandpit, or onto a mattress, and if you bail, it is normally onto your side.

  • @Topera151 can a quickly ask, what moves is a corkscrew easier than and is it easier or harder on a trampoline

  • well done! ive seen this before, kick the moon or cheat gainer, whatever you want to call it its awesome!

    does anybody know the name of the song?

  • very smooth, I'll try this one!

  • I hope I can do it, I did Double leg at 2nd time after getting a tutorial from my friend.

    It's pretty easy, first learn it on Trampoline, and slowly, train yourself at the ground :)

    This trick looks pretty easy when you follow what you have to do to with the trick in the beginning. Be sure to have enough jump power, ahh I dont remember the english name xD

  • @SufyPK yeah i have that exact same problem!

  • i have a question... i can do a gainer/corkscrew but the way i do it sort of looks like a cheat gainer but i land on the same foot i jump off of, is it stil a full gainer??

  • to gainer space....well idk...lol

  • that looks better anyway :D

    it kinda looks like kick the moon lol :D

  • @iBLaDEzZx that's what it is lol

  • with all respect to you giulio, its shit not tutorial :)

  • thanks lost my gainer this winter to busy training mma. Buddy's came back from school for summer, I go out and miss two gainers in a row. Got it back now thanks again.

  • Gainer is amazing :D!!!! this video is how I learned how to gainer, no joke watch this video and the next day tried it.. now I do it for shows:D

  • @Dexter9213 its not a bad thing to do... it will certainly make the moves easier and higher

  • thats a nicemove

  • what song is that nice gainer i really need to learn it lol

  • i can do it 2 thumbs up!!!

  • I Prefer The Gainer Flash Its More Technical And Looks Better

  • this easier than a back tuck?  looks nicer and i really wanna learn this move =P

  • Awesome!

  • i really can't do a slant gainer but it's one of the coolest moves, whenever i do it i land with the wrong leg

  • is it normal that i do like a flash gainer? i'm trying to go a bit to the side but i always do like a flash gainer..., tips?

  • i would love to do a cheat gainer but im to afraid to get my leg to go above me or like a backflip

  • Sick.

  • I always do a tunnel flip xD

  • @SpeedDemon2468

    Aw man.You just brung me back tto middle school/5 grade summer.

    I havent heard that term in yrs.

    I remember the days my martial arts teacher used to do this .back then he had me beat on this move

  • For some reason when i try these on a Trampoline i just end up doing a Regular Gainer :S

  • Are these easier than regular gainers?

  • Isn't it just a sideflip with a kick

  • I do everything this video says... but go into a normal backflip :/

  • I always throw myself back and do a frontflip??!!?

    I think it's coz my twist

  • Looks easy enough

  • is this easier than a normal gainer?

  • @flappy321  yes a normal gainer is like a backflip

  • @flappy321 it shouldnt be, normal gainer are the hardest in my opinion

  • @Rosariogalio well your doing something wrong just kick and look over your shoulder if not you just do a gainer

  • is cheat gainer a lot more lame then a real gainer, or? whats the coolest one?

  • why is it called "cheat gainer" in english?

    gain = to get something?

  • @alan513 You gain ground. In free running, a gainer is a backflip moving forward, therefore gaining ground. This is usually done from height. It is discussed if a tricking gainer should go forward or not, since it doesn't have a practical use...

  • @alan513 Because you gain ground by doing the move. its a "back"flip going forward

  • @alan513 Gainer is a forward moving backflip, so yes, to gain ground while backflipping.

  • @alan513 It's called a gainer because you gain distance while doing something backwards? or something like that.

  • @alan513 cheat because it's not a proper gainer and gain means you gain distance (go forwards)

  • @alan513 Because you do the backflip forwards, effectivly 'gaining' ground. :)

  • @alan513 to get the knowledge of doing a cheat gainer!

  • @alan513 because you use a gainer to gain momentum into your next trick

  • @alan513 Yes, as in to get "Gain" distance. In a true gainer you are running and do a "backflip", but still gain distance while doing so.

  • @alan513 its a gainer because it flips backwards but GAINS distance (:

  • @alan513 read the words in the video idiot.

  • @JWPnim he's not asking why it's got the word "cheat" in the name. he's asking why it's called a "gainer" which MintChocolateTurtle has answered correctly. i don't think he's the idiot here.

  • @alan513 gain as in gaining distance. A gainer is a backflip moving forward

  • @alan513 because gainer is backflip in which you fly forward so you gain something, on the same way the name of a frontflip going backwards is looser

  • @alan513 its called cheat gainer beacuse 1. Cheat = not a real gainer its more of a easier way to gainer 2. they call it gainer because you gain momentum

  • @alan513 to gain distance in front of you

  • @alan513 gainer as in backflip with gain distance from jump to land. and cheat because it's not a backflip, it's a cheat gainer therefore :D!

  • why call it cheat gainer, it's kick the moon

  • @St4nster nope, a moon kick is a gainer, so what i guess im saying is this is also a cheat moon kick?

  • Know what i realized? It's pretty much a reverse bkick

  • this is not a gainer its a KTM

  • @ANDYtheEWOK Same thing bro.

  • @ANDYtheEWOK its the same dude

  • doing this takes 10% skills and 90% ballz/courage

  • @rumblefighterXstrike 100% skills 100/ ballz

  • ... i will try cheat gainner. i just love it.

  • agree.its rlly fun and simple once u mastered it