You provoke people and when they ask you to leave you dont, they wont be happy and you are in the wrong, they have the right to use force to remove you from the property, but they didnt. It proves that anti gun people are more violent, especially stathamajf who fantisises about getting into knife fights.
@1ohtaf1 if you must insult me, at least do it in a reply to me, not one I was almsot certainly not going to read. And considering my method simply risks my life, while your almost certainly end in a death I'm curious how you can talk the stance that you're less violent. I like fighting I won't lie. But I wouldn't kill someone simply to avoid losing the contents of my pockets.
@stathamajf I dont see how i have insulted you, i didnt call you names, i just applied your logic into an realistic event. Unless pointing out the flaws in your logic is insulting. You have no facts, you are simply stating that you are less violent because you like getting into fights... Yet an old lady that doesnt ever want to have an confrontation but has a firearm in case she has to use it is violent? Sorry if me pointing out more obvious flaws is insulting you.
@1ohtaf1 wow...you're right I mean...woah that's just. I suddenly see why that other guy just stopped replying to you. I mean you actually believe what you just said don't you? Though I am curious how the logic that no guns means no one getting shot led you to me carrying a knife? I have plenty of facts you just ignore them I imagine you will see this as a victory but I have better things to do then continue this debate with a metaphorical wall.
@stathamajf Woah! Im blown away with such facts as " I have plenty of facts" which you backed up nicely with statistics such as, " you just ignore them" and "I imagine". Plenty of facts right there in your comment lad.... Well i believe what i said because when people put logic behind it it makes sense but with yours, when i put any kind of realistic situation behind your ideals you call it "insulting" as the flaws pour through.
@1ohtaf1 You have yet to point out a flaw, you just said I was violent for thinking it's better not to bring guns into violent crime if possible. What exactly is this realistic situation where by the absence of guns makes those involved more violent. Is it somehow cleaner if you didn't have to get close enough get the blood on you?
@stathamajf You clearly havent been reading my comments or are too arrogant to take it in, your logic has many holes in it, an example is you state that you are non-violent and that is your reason in standing against guns but you "enjoy getting into fights"
@1ohtaf1 No, I said I enjoy fights, that's not my reason for disliking guns. In fact reading over my comments I cannot see a single way you could have misinterpreted that. Which inclined me to conclude this conversdation is going nowhere. I will mention, that would not be a hole in my logic even if it was true been as it only counters me, not my argument which you haven't given counter-arguments or examples to. Well believe what you want, we'll probably never talk again anyway.
@stathamajf That is a very limited view of what you consider violence..... A person who enjoys violence IE fighting and conflict is generally a violent person. Again i show flaws in your logic, or should i say lack of it.....
@1ohtaf1 No, a person who hits people when it's not necessary is a violent person. Again we have differing definitions of certain words, logic has nothing to do with it. To put it another way, that word you keep using, I don't think it means what you think it means.
@stathamajf "different" definitions? mate you are way of the definition of the word just like you are way off everything else you are talking about. "No, a person who hits people when it's not necessary is a violent person" yet you enjoy fights... You enjoy something which is essentially based upon hitting or stabing another human when it is not necessary at all....
@stathamajf Ah yes, the good old no need to go to far... You know a when person is just about to set fire to your house when you are in it and your children are asleep.... What are you planning to do? are you knocking him cold then Putting the fire out?!?! Thats too far, we have to charge you for agrovated assult. At least the guy you knocked out had sense and didnt resort to anything dangerous.....
@1ohtaf1 Interesting, example please? To my understanding this was not the extent it went to but if you're able to supply an actual article or such to prove thes kinds of things happen then I'd be happy to concede the point that our self-defence definitions are off. I'm afraid that without some kind of source I can't believe the example though. I am impressed by your obvious expertese in British law though, where did you study?
I dont think banning guns will lower crime because criminals will still illegally get them somehow or use black market. People should be allouwd to own guns but there should be restrictions like... No military grade weapons, no one who has commuted a serious crime can own one not a petty crime. I believe that in this way every one is gets what they want, rednecks can own shotguns with rifle scopes and other people can defend them selves
@ninjaboynaru yet gun crime is still far lower in countries without so many guns. I get what you're saying but to be honest I just don't see why everyone thinks they need a gun in america. How many people find themselves with a genuine need to defend themselves via firearm? Now how many buy guns which end up being used for suicides, accidents, stolen and used for crime and so on and so on.
@stathamajf Most Americans like guns and think they need one because it is in our culture/history to own guns. Back in the 1700s and 1800s everyone had a gun and second gun just seem fun and cool for some people. The problem is that our society has become selfish and more violent and for a free society to exist it must first be mature enough to handle its freedoms. Also second amendment in the U.S bill of rights allows right to bear arms but some people interpret it different.
wish we could get assault rifles in australia all we can buy is bolt action with limited magazine capacity and double barrel shotguns unless you can prove you need a selfloading rifle just crap you can go to a supermarket and buy a knife and kill someone if thats what your intentions are.
0:30 Uh... how about because no sane human being on the planet would be able to pay attention to the sermon when he's sitting next to the dude straddling his 12 gauge?
@itsdamo1993 I wish I could have access to assualt rifles, I live in australia. it's crazy leftys and social 'progressive' like you that will ruin Australia
By the way, I do not want to have American gun laws. They are much to lax. Try new zealand. Great gun laws, when was the last time you heard of a shooting thier?
@Thetrout91 gun laws dont matter. people will find other things to kill each other with. look at england. out lawed guns, gun violence droped and violent crimes with knives went up. what next out law knives and batteries with bats and clubs will go up. people will kill each other were animal. guns arnt to blame people are. and no lax or strict law will change that.
@dp665 But murders are still lower, don't over simplify. Killing with a knife is harder, not just practically but you also have to get close, get bloody and dirty and watch someone die painfully inches from you. Shooting someone dehumanises them, guns empower the ones holding them, personally I'll use a gun if the military asks me to (that be me chosen career path) but I see no need to have one sitting at home.
If someone surprises you and pulls a gun on you having a gun won't save you.
@dp665 How? If someone has a gun pointed at you to mug you, you have a gun on you as well but not drawn already (since having drawn first makes you the criminal)...how does this help. It gives them another gun once they shoot you but that's all. The only way it helps is if they were stupid enough to leave it on you put there's away and so give you a shot.
So how will you defend yourself then? If they have a gun you lose so do you need one for people without a gun? Ditch guns, it's safer.
What you said has been disproved by every conflict in human history, if what you said were true, swords and daggers would not have been made, firearms would not have been made, and law enforcement would not carry firearms. Heck why hasnt the military figured this out? Arming their soilders is actually just supplying the enemy with arms, they should just get rid of their guns! But wait, then why would t he enemy want to capture the guns, according to you its just a lump of metal slowing them down
@stathamajf there are a few different things you can do to even the playing field or even get an edge... one would be (if your like me and carry at the 5 oclock position) reach for your gun when going for your wallet... the perp is none the wiser. then when you have your hand on the gun, lock eyes with the robber then glance over his shoulder, naturaly he is going to turn and look, even say thank god a cop not yelling but like at normal conversation tone, he will look when he does.
@stathamajf Continue... pull and fire. it will give you that split second needed to get your gun out and a shot off... second way... i always carry 2 guns one accessable with either hand. one is left side pocket. tell the guy your gonna comply with him, your gonna give him all your valuables. reach in the right poket give him everything, reach in your back pocket same time reach in the left pocket, when retreving your wallet from your back pocket go to hand it to him but "accedently"
@stathamajf Continue... drop it. while he watches it fall to the ground and bends over to grab it pull your gun from your left pocket and shot him. he will be to distracted going for the wallet to very notice. there are ways and techniques to get the upper hand you just have to stay calm and think... my personal fav is the first one.
Funny thing is that guns aren't even protection, they just allow for collateral damage. Guns are dangerous, idiotic and there is absolutely no reason that anyone should be able to own one.
@qwegergtdf Exactly, more guns just means more bullets in the air, most of them fired by action movie loving morons with no proper training, panicking at actually being in danger and generally just making things worse. All the while the criminal has still shot you since they by definition had their gun out first.
honestly its not that bad in the US its worse in mexico and guns are illegal there but then again americans give mexicans guns while they give us coke
@itsdamo1993 wth... your bullshitting them all mate... Australia never has any more school shootings or shooting rampages.. Want to know why? Because they banned guns.. And what do you know.. as soon as they did death toll from gun related situations dropped massively to almost ZERO!.. Dont try and act like your in life or death... Just lame little kid you are trying to act tough on the net haha ..
@dravidr007 what's that smell? was it a fart oh no it's just a curry munching indian bastard from the slums who married a dog and worships rat. That explains the flies it's about time you applied for welfare refugee rather than talking shit on your friend's computer. Curry cunt.
All you people from country's that can't own guns are just so cute and sweet about not being have right even close to ours. Your all like children, rascals the lot of ya.Don't worry your big brov gov will take care of you.
Yeah that's true, every time I go outside I'm usually put in life or death situations, they're so common over here in Australia.
We live in fear and we all wish we could have unlimited access to assault rifles, then maybe our murders, cop killings and school shooting rampages would drop down to the USA's levels.
Yeah but you have limited freedom. We have guns to protect our freedom from the possibility of the government, which has plenty of guns, trying to take that freedom away from us. In Australia you will be arrested for playing video games that 5 year olds in the US can handle. I suppose that is too much for the minds of a nation founded by violent criminals to process. God forbid your government lets you have guns. This is fun satire but dont be an idiot.
@bosshog7169 if you knew nething it wasnt convicts thats founded this place it was captian cook years after finding australia they started to move convicts over r we clear and u wont be arrested for playing video games i got a six year old that wud thrash u on cod and who said aussies dont have guns go get a license and you got your gun fuk man do your maths if your gonna try to bag countrys f boy
So you are positing that everyone is descended from captain cook? That would make you a nation of inbreds. Either you are inbreds or criminals, which side do you prefer?
@bosshog7169 That's funny, my mother is australian and there isn't a single convict in the family. There's some guys that earned land in australia for their service in the british army, some of them just went there for a new life and so on.
Stop making a false dilemma too. It's not because people don't own guns that the state will take over and kill everyone. Oh and we have guns here too. The problem aren't guns, it's the easy access to guns for everyone.
So why is the US governement conspiring against gun owners? Look up the ATF's Fast and Furious operation since you clearly don't know what time it is. Meanwhile inbred criminal australians let their government tell them they can't even play video games like Mortal Kombat because it will warp their retarded minds, so at least we're still better off than them.
@bosshog7169 5 yr olds should not be playing games like cod and sh*t, they just shouldn't. The age sticker is there for a damn reason. And you seriously believe america is a more free country then others that have fewer guns...really?
@molanlabexm15 If he's a threat to your life and you have a gun that means he likely has one too, otherwise you could just tell him to drop the knife or whatever and he'd do so to avoid you shooting him. If he has a gun then he's pulled it before you have (otherwise you're the criminal holding him at gun point) which means he has a gun on you, you have a lump of metal weighing down your pocket...how does this help?
@stathamajf really?He'll just drop the knife?Are you sure?So if somebody points a gun at me i, should shoot him in his face like a true Amerricun or put my life in his hands give him what he wants?Tell me had would you have handle the following situation?Talk it out? When seconds and life are at stake, i will never, ever negotiate with anyone with for my life.It's too precious. So is yours. Watch this video and let me know what ya think. type: Knife Robbery Ends In A Bloodbath Gun Save Lives
@molanlabexm15 If you have a gun on him then yes, he will. Unless he's crazy in which case you'll need something pretty big to drop him fast enough, something you definitely won't have on you unless you're a cop or soldier and on duty.
I'm glad to hear you consider your life more valuable then anything else, personally I think other peoples lives have valuie too, so I'd rather not shoot someone. If they have a gun and it's on you then if you're good enough to win, you didn't need the gun.
@molanlabexm15 If you have a gun on him then yes, he will. Unless he's crazy in which case you'll need something pretty big to drop him fast enough, something you definitely won't have on you unless you're a cop or soldier and on duty.
I'm glad to hear you consider your life more valuable then anything else, personally I think other people's lives have value too, so I'd rather not shoot someone. If they have a gun and it's on you then if you're good enough to win, you didn't need the gun.
@stathamajf When it comes to me being robbed my gentlemanly pleasantries go right out the window and are generally replaced with righteous,anger towards the would be thief.Unless they are much stronger and meaner then me.Granted i have never been robbed nor have i been victim of burglary.I do not carry firearm on my person unless i am at the range or hunting afield.The reason for this is the same as why my lawn is tall.I'll mow it later.Or in this case get my CCW permit later. Stay British.
@molanlabexm15 Video was a pretty blatant fake, no arterial spray from what should have been a fatal throat slit, a knife that continued t be harmless, an over powered gun. several time oddities and people acting very strangely. Not to mention the picked and chosen camers angles. But hey let's say it is real, all it shows it that people prefer to be lazy and buy power then train for it, yay for seeling strength to the highest bidder, the money obviously ensures they have the discipline to use it
@stathamajf Are you "taking a piss"?.He did not die because the would be murderer was a living fool, became a dying fool and now is a dead fool.Because dying IS for fools.Seriously though are you kidding?Coming from the number one nation for CCTV cameras you sure are a poor judge of video.The idea that people simply train and become Bruce Lee is a ludicrous arguement reminiscent of 7th grade debate team. Please google Shop knife man shot by owner. It's a full UK article.Read the comments please
@molanlabexm15 'taking the piss' and no I'm not. Dying is for everyone, everybody dies. The murderer stabs him twice in the gut with nothing blocking the blows, yet he fails to bleed out from the gaping holes hat aren't in his gut. Slit throatsbleed. Whether or not there's an article the video is faked. And of course you won't become bruce lee, but anyone can get good enough to deal with someone with a knife. the comments were just nonsense about not letting 'tha gov'ment take our guns! yeeha!'
@stathamajf I know dying is for everybody.But your full of fucking shit dog.Ya know what else not a single one of the comments in that article said anything about the government taking guns.They roundly agreed your justice system has become convoluted by lack of insight regarding what justice is.I mean you guys went from,"We shall never surrender." to "we're too irresponsible a people to own guns" Maybe most people in England are criminal minded.The wanton looting in London supports that notion.
@molanlabexm15 And you've gone from producing rational argument to hurling insults. Also I thought you mena the comments on the video. Yes our justice system is messed up, so's yours. You think people are that responsible? I disagree, and considering your increase in insults and ad hominem cr*p I think I'll leave it there. The last word is yours is you want it.
@stathamajf Please forgive me.and if i have offended you im sorry. It jus makes me angry.All internet troll shit aside, but im telling ya man, insults is not what im trying to talk to ya about.So just let me give mad respekst to tha West Staines Massive in turn.I just can't comprehend why your laws are such and i think along firearms laws you've made a error in the UK.I can't live with out may gins and im not out for blood but if can't have an AR 15 and 30 round mags, then i have no hobby mate.
@stathamajf Its better then what the UK has, where it is illegal to defend yourself. And i find it funny how you arrogant people always find yourself argueing with Americans about how they should run America.... You really are just out looking for fights, i think you dont like people having guns because when you go out rioting and looting you dont want the shop owner to stop you, you seem like the type.
@1ohtaf1 No, just ilegal to go too far. I never said what you should do, just defended the logic of our position, you are projecting your own arrogance I'm afraid.
As to me I'm a med student ass hat, when did you last try to help someone? The spate of people talking sh*t about the riots just shows how little you know about the country you keep claiming to understand, I have the humility to refrain from claiming knowledge of what your country is like, perhaps you could try the same.
@stathamajf I never claimed i knew everything about anyother nation, last time i checked you were the end all expert for US lawmakers, so much so you didnt realise that the 2nd amendment gives "the right of the people to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed". And after reading your comment i enjoyed that you finally added some "facts" into your replys, such as: "No, just ilegal to go too far" backed up by: " I'm a med student ass hat" The Brit which happens to be an expert on American law.
@1ohtaf1 I thought we were debating ethics and logistics, I've never told you to change your laws, you've said it to me and others in these comments but I did not. And I'm fully aware of the 2nd amendment, never understood how your country puts so much weight on a centuries old document for it's current laws but that's your call.
My point is that you obviously know nothing about me so how can you claim I'm violent? I know little about american law, but that's not what we're discussing.
@stathamajf My country? Im pretty sure my country does not have something called the 2nd Amendment in the constitution... We were debating ethics but i dont see how we were debating logistics.... I think you are too stupid to tell the difference between logic and logistics..... what a fail. I called you violent based on the fact that you said "i cant lie, i like fighting" and continue to state that you like knife fights.
@1ohtaf1 My apologies, did I get the name wrong or are you not american? Logistics as in whether or not the ideas we were throwing around work, that would fit the definition I have for the word. Violence is measured by how hard you try to get into fights, I enjoy them but I don't seek them out. That would be wrong.
@1ohtaf1 I don't recall mentioning a dictionary, to me that word has the more colloquial defintion of processes of whether or not a certain idea is workable. The logistics of an idea being the workability of it in reality. Supposen that's probably just where I'm from. Either way thanks for pointing it out but I;m curious why you added that last line when you failed to respond to my other points. At all.
Again this is going nowhere, please stop clogging up my inbox. I hate pointless things.
@stathamajf "to me that word has the more colloquial defintion of processes of whether or not a certain idea is workable" In other words, you are saying "Its not what it means but i use it because i like pulling shit out my arse" Love more "facts" right there... Pointless things you mention, like getting into knife fights because you enjoy being a non-violent person? HMmmmm....
@ainsleywainsley No you don't. Go back home now little boy. Anyways ho in the hell give a flying fuck about your bitch ass rooster. Besides my Irish heritage is roundly accepted as being as being indivisibly one in the same with a big penis, which unlike you, i have. Plus your name is Ainsley. Which if we look at 21st century edition of Websters dictionary tells us is effeminate male with stretched unsealable anus, with little or no reputation for persuasive conjecture with females. Unquote.
@Bigtanner7 1) irsh people are known for being drunks who start fights for no reason, this is because their dicks are the size of a baby's and because its so small they need to try and prove themself as a man thru random violence 2) ainsley isnt my real name idiot its a username, 3) names arent found in the dictionary u dumb shit, and lastly 4) U have guns, you own a "fast black car", you like to drink/ ur irish. this all points out u have an issue with power, related to ur small cock
@ainsleywainsley No you don't. Go back home now little boy. Anyways ho in the hell give a flying fuck about your bitch ass rooster. Besides my Irish heritage is roundly accepted as being as being indivisibly one in the same with a big penis, which unlike you, i have. Plus your name is Ainsley. Which if we look at 21st century edition of Websters dictionary tells us is effeminate male with stretched unsealable anus, with little or no reputation for persuasive conjecture with females. Unquote.
@molanlabexm15 ...no, I'll take care of me, see gun crime is low enough here that as long as you can deal with a few guys with knives you're fine. Or do you not have the balls to take a few punches? Have to have a gun before you can defend yourself? As to my rights, at least I can proclaim myself an atheist without being shunned by society.
@stathamajf You are such a violent person, most people that own guns for self defence dont want people to break in so they have to use it, but you seem to pleasure yourself by fantisizing having punch outs and knife fights in the streets. Is that why you want to ban guns? You want to go out and pick fights without the chance of you being shot?
I like Chasers alot, but I don't like this clip. There hasn't been a single recorded case where gun control stopped crime. Sorry, but if you ban guns, criminals can still get them. Like in Australia, where they went out of there way to destroy every gun owned by citizens, and the crime spiked dramatically.
@warmingthesoul ...that still does not count for percentages... You see percentages do not change if the total changes, it is relative, so your logic is flawed. That still doesn't account for how the crime rate went up when the banned hand guns in dc. It's not about the amount of crime, it about how the rate goes up compared to how It was before.
@fingersticks74 of course crime goes up if you ban guns in a place surrounded by other places where you can still get guns. Did they collect guns, did they do anything to stop people withn guns coming in? If not then it was the gov's fault not the ban's
@stathamajf The government creates the laws and is supposed to enforce it, if they cant that shows the public how incompitant they are that they cant even back up what they want to do.
Australia had gun control at levels Americans have nightmares about *before* "they went out of there way to destroy every gun owned by citizens".
Violent crime did not spike dramaticlly, claiming so is just ridiculous. Homicides kept falling, and other violent crimes kept rising. Non-violent crimes are irrelevant.
And who cares anyway, the American constitution does not allow gun control, so it doesn't matter if gun control is good or bad it just isn't allowed.
.... your gun laws are too lax. way too lax, they made us watch doco'son the columbine massacre and i just dont see the need to carry a weapon around that has a bigger consequence if you use it then most are ready for.
all in all its called comedy and the chaseres do it well
Stupid media. If you want to be so safe live in cages or put everyone in a coma, we all be safe =) Australia bans lazer pointers, kids toys, knives, movies, video games, and now probably the internet. WOW freedom and a false sense of "security" tastes sweet.
Canada has more guns per population, but US is full of murders, high on MTV shite, brainwashed on anti-semitics, completely illiterate anti-theological zionists, compelled by sex over any form of real commitment to love or suffering, hooked on sugar, suckers for political rape of other nations resources. God.. save America. Hmmm... but I'll come over and check it out.. I need to help my cousins in California from their lust for money!
yeah, it's also know as the "greatest country in the world." quadruple sarcasm... it's going down fast, but only after centuries of abuse... ethnic cleansing & abuse of the indigenous communities, slavery, international violence & economic exploitation... & on & on... the empire is crumbling, as they all eventually do...
I'm American, and I just bought my first gun. It's an antique Russian rifle from the World War II era, it cost $117.36 including tax and I had to wait ten days to pick it up. This weekend, I plan to spend a great deal of time washing it with white spirit and totally re-surfacing all of it's parts so that it will finally be safe and ready to have sex with.
true.. and thestandard tactic to being held at range wth a gn is give up. and OPE they come close enough and drop their guard. other than that... yeah i do see the problem. but a stick will see you through a MAJORITY of brawls and sudden attacks whic,as i understand are at close quaters unless ive misread it.
ha thats funny, we do love our guns. But guns exist and if someone wants one bad enough they will get it even if its illegal, then you will just have the bad people with guns. You have to register a gun if you buy it so if you shot someone with it you will get caught. Most people that use guns illegally buy guns illegally
fair point, but the more guns out there the easier it is for "bad" people to get a gun. and the more people have guns the higher chances of somebody getting shoot. example if you get robed by an armed man and you are unarmed you loose your money. If you have a gun and try/succede in using it you might end up shoot/dead or charged with shooting somebody. I prefer just loosing some money that I can regain from my travel insurrance anyway :)
@knuthoem85 good on you for letting criminals get and do what they please, but i prefer to have to right to defend myself, and if the criminals intend on killing me i would rather scare them away with my gun then to die because idiots like you belive that women and children should be under fear of criminals and let them take whatever they like and inhumanly control them like slaves rather then stopping them. You disgust me.
Never said that I would let them do what they want withouth consequences, They would naturally be hunted down by the police and procecuted. Thing is, if you use your gun against them, you end up with a standof that makes it much more likely that you will get killed. But I suppse this is a subjective subject depending on how safe your surroundigs are. I live in Norway where we dont realy have a gun problem so I dont have a need for it to protect me. Im gona make a wild guess you are american
No im Australian, and our country bans alot of guns, lazer pointers, kids toys, movies, video games and now probably the internet. I dont know about you but alot of people would rather scare away or shoot a rapist that breakes into their home rather then get killed and their daughters raped and then wait for the police to find him, wait 6 months until he gets a trial, the system lets everyone down and he goes free untill 10 years later then the case is reopened and he is put away for 18 months.
@1ohtaf1 If you can't scare away a rapist etc without a gun then it's probably cause he's either crazy or has a gun. If he broke into your house with a gun then he probably has the drop on you. So how does having a gun help you?
@stathamajf That doesnt make sense, so if a rapist is so keen on raping someone, why would he would freak out when he comes in contact with the un armed person he planned to rape, it was his plan all along and its working perfectly... Why would they have the drop on me? It is my house and i know the layout of it in and out, he doesnt and he is mobile and probably has a smaller firearm like a handgun, i am stationary at my house and can take a more capable weapon like a longarm.
@1ohtaf1 So you stay up all night, with a longarm nearby, waiting for the rapist to come rushing through the door? a 9mm will kill you dead just fine, also seriously you see no way to scare someone off without a gun?
No, your stupidity amuses me. You are basicly saying that using a gun against an armed intruder is making it worste because it is stopping him from doing bad things. You are either a retard that is too stupid to connect the dots or a person that perfers a world of violence where criminals get and do what they want because stopping them will "make it worste".
Many indsidants happen where a mad man could calmly walk around a restraunt or school and take his time to aim then shoot his targets because retards like you make laws preventing them from a right to defend themselves because you would feel that it could "make it worste" by making it harder for the mad man to continue what he was doing and giving the inocent a fighting chance and save lives.
@1ohtaf1 If you dont like Australian laws then PISS OFF. Its obvious you are either young and/or stupid so im not even going to bother arguing with a minor. If you want to protect yourself use your FISTS you faggot.
@ryanacehigh yes, good idea when an armed intruder breaks into your house, you have the upper hand when you use your fists instead of a firearm. And you are the stupid one who falls for whatever the media throws at you and has no logic in their ideals.
@1ohtaf1 Heres some logic. What about if he was unarmed because the law prevented him from having a firearm? Wow understand now? The pros of having guns does not out weigh the cons.. Your logic is a perfect scenario.. Its more like hundreds of people die in consequent gun violence then one armed intruder being stopped by someone protecting themselves with a gun.. That logic mate..
@ryanacehigh You fail, if the person wants to kill people, its AGAINST the law, so why do you think they will obey a law saying they cant carry? Pros of having guns out weighs the cons, you are an idiot. If you dont want to get a gun, thats your loss dont get one but its retards like you that ruin our freedom by having your "ideals" that causes crime to rise.
@1ohtaf1 Because the first is an easy law to break, people die easy you just have to choose to kill someone. Getting a gun when it's illegal however is hard, hence countries with blanket gun bans have fewer guins, hence less likely the criminal will have a gun.
@stathamajf "Getting a gun when it's illegal however is hard" For law abiding citizens its impossible, for criminals it is as easy. Actually you are right, banning it stops criminals from getting it cause they obey the law, like the ban on drugs.... oh wait...
@1ohtaf1 I live in such a country, friends of mine have tried to get guns, let me say this clearly. It. Is. Almost. Impossible. Criminals still have it almost impossible, so no that isn't right, you can't grow a gun nor sneak them around in a few inches of space like you can drugs.
@ryanacehigh You have no logic, the criminal is breaking the law when he breaks into your house, what makes you think he will obey the law that says he cant have a gun? The only person that wont have a gun because of the law is the owner of the house.
@1ohtaf1 Hahahahaha learn how to ENGLISH hahaha my god you are a brain dead fuck. Imagine a country WITHOUT GUNS. It doesnt fucking matter if its a law or not because the GUNS ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE.. GET IT? Its well known by anyone with a IQ over that of YOU that with high accessibility of guns will make crime rates rise. Saying that my "ideals&qu
@BIRDDOG551
i bet your from america
and your 10 years old
fuck you
beep388 3 weeks ago
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British are pussies
BIRDDOG551 5 months ago
@BIRDDOG551 No. and they are australian ...
TheHat3z 4 months ago 10
@TheHat3z I should rephrase that this australian and those that think like him are pussies.
BIRDDOG551 4 months ago
@BIRDDOG551 Baha, you dumb shit.
colin4393 3 months ago 6
@BIRDDOG551 yea thats why we send troops to every pointless war you start. well done genious.
TMeerkat8 3 months ago 2
@TMeerkat8 yh and Australia is next
going to use aus as a base to piss of china
harj2009 1 week ago
How many times does a rapist or murderer run into your house in the middle of the night, to the point you need a gun?
Mate, I don't know what country you live in but for your sake I hope you get out of it ASAP.
k2kraze 5 months ago
You provoke people and when they ask you to leave you dont, they wont be happy and you are in the wrong, they have the right to use force to remove you from the property, but they didnt. It proves that anti gun people are more violent, especially stathamajf who fantisises about getting into knife fights.
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@1ohtaf1 if you must insult me, at least do it in a reply to me, not one I was almsot certainly not going to read. And considering my method simply risks my life, while your almost certainly end in a death I'm curious how you can talk the stance that you're less violent. I like fighting I won't lie. But I wouldn't kill someone simply to avoid losing the contents of my pockets.
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf I dont see how i have insulted you, i didnt call you names, i just applied your logic into an realistic event. Unless pointing out the flaws in your logic is insulting. You have no facts, you are simply stating that you are less violent because you like getting into fights... Yet an old lady that doesnt ever want to have an confrontation but has a firearm in case she has to use it is violent? Sorry if me pointing out more obvious flaws is insulting you.
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@1ohtaf1 wow...you're right I mean...woah that's just. I suddenly see why that other guy just stopped replying to you. I mean you actually believe what you just said don't you? Though I am curious how the logic that no guns means no one getting shot led you to me carrying a knife? I have plenty of facts you just ignore them I imagine you will see this as a victory but I have better things to do then continue this debate with a metaphorical wall.
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf Woah! Im blown away with such facts as " I have plenty of facts" which you backed up nicely with statistics such as, " you just ignore them" and "I imagine". Plenty of facts right there in your comment lad.... Well i believe what i said because when people put logic behind it it makes sense but with yours, when i put any kind of realistic situation behind your ideals you call it "insulting" as the flaws pour through.
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@1ohtaf1 You have yet to point out a flaw, you just said I was violent for thinking it's better not to bring guns into violent crime if possible. What exactly is this realistic situation where by the absence of guns makes those involved more violent. Is it somehow cleaner if you didn't have to get close enough get the blood on you?
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf You clearly havent been reading my comments or are too arrogant to take it in, your logic has many holes in it, an example is you state that you are non-violent and that is your reason in standing against guns but you "enjoy getting into fights"
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@1ohtaf1 No, I said I enjoy fights, that's not my reason for disliking guns. In fact reading over my comments I cannot see a single way you could have misinterpreted that. Which inclined me to conclude this conversdation is going nowhere. I will mention, that would not be a hole in my logic even if it was true been as it only counters me, not my argument which you haven't given counter-arguments or examples to. Well believe what you want, we'll probably never talk again anyway.
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf That is a very limited view of what you consider violence..... A person who enjoys violence IE fighting and conflict is generally a violent person. Again i show flaws in your logic, or should i say lack of it.....
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@1ohtaf1 No, a person who hits people when it's not necessary is a violent person. Again we have differing definitions of certain words, logic has nothing to do with it. To put it another way, that word you keep using, I don't think it means what you think it means.
Now seriously, this is pointless, could ya stop?
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf "different" definitions? mate you are way of the definition of the word just like you are way off everything else you are talking about. "No, a person who hits people when it's not necessary is a violent person" yet you enjoy fights... You enjoy something which is essentially based upon hitting or stabing another human when it is not necessary at all....
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@stathamajf Ah yes, the good old no need to go to far... You know a when person is just about to set fire to your house when you are in it and your children are asleep.... What are you planning to do? are you knocking him cold then Putting the fire out?!?! Thats too far, we have to charge you for agrovated assult. At least the guy you knocked out had sense and didnt resort to anything dangerous.....
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@1ohtaf1 Interesting, example please? To my understanding this was not the extent it went to but if you're able to supply an actual article or such to prove thes kinds of things happen then I'd be happy to concede the point that our self-defence definitions are off. I'm afraid that without some kind of source I can't believe the example though. I am impressed by your obvious expertese in British law though, where did you study?
stathamajf 5 months ago
Americans are obsessed with guns. Even their forensic pathologists have them and use them.
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I dont think banning guns will lower crime because criminals will still illegally get them somehow or use black market. People should be allouwd to own guns but there should be restrictions like... No military grade weapons, no one who has commuted a serious crime can own one not a petty crime. I believe that in this way every one is gets what they want, rednecks can own shotguns with rifle scopes and other people can defend them selves
ninjaboynaru 6 months ago
@ninjaboynaru yet gun crime is still far lower in countries without so many guns. I get what you're saying but to be honest I just don't see why everyone thinks they need a gun in america. How many people find themselves with a genuine need to defend themselves via firearm? Now how many buy guns which end up being used for suicides, accidents, stolen and used for crime and so on and so on.
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf Most Americans like guns and think they need one because it is in our culture/history to own guns. Back in the 1700s and 1800s everyone had a gun and second gun just seem fun and cool for some people. The problem is that our society has become selfish and more violent and for a free society to exist it must first be mature enough to handle its freedoms. Also second amendment in the U.S bill of rights allows right to bear arms but some people interpret it different.
ninjaboynaru 5 months ago
Hey u gotta admit, shooting people is fun.
Voodoofreak35 6 months ago
wish we could get assault rifles in australia all we can buy is bolt action with limited magazine capacity and double barrel shotguns unless you can prove you need a selfloading rifle just crap you can go to a supermarket and buy a knife and kill someone if thats what your intentions are.
tunastrike11 7 months ago
Unbelievable!
neilchelsea 8 months ago
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Romnade 8 months ago
0:30 Uh... how about because no sane human being on the planet would be able to pay attention to the sermon when he's sitting next to the dude straddling his 12 gauge?
foodlovingpig 10 months ago
@foodlovingpig
>Straddling
You keep using that word I don't think it means what you think it means.
toothyp1cks 10 months ago
@toothyp1cks INCONCEIVABLE!
:D
WirlWind494 9 months ago
haha so many redneck americans dont understand that we are taking the piss out of them
cyz44 10 months ago 7
haha from the safest country in the world :P
solhasse 11 months ago
@itsdamo1993 I wish I could have access to assualt rifles, I live in australia. it's crazy leftys and social 'progressive' like you that will ruin Australia
By the way, I do not want to have American gun laws. They are much to lax. Try new zealand. Great gun laws, when was the last time you heard of a shooting thier?
Thetrout91 11 months ago
@Thetrout91 gun laws dont matter. people will find other things to kill each other with. look at england. out lawed guns, gun violence droped and violent crimes with knives went up. what next out law knives and batteries with bats and clubs will go up. people will kill each other were animal. guns arnt to blame people are. and no lax or strict law will change that.
dp665 10 months ago
@dp665 But murders are still lower, don't over simplify. Killing with a knife is harder, not just practically but you also have to get close, get bloody and dirty and watch someone die painfully inches from you. Shooting someone dehumanises them, guns empower the ones holding them, personally I'll use a gun if the military asks me to (that be me chosen career path) but I see no need to have one sitting at home.
If someone surprises you and pulls a gun on you having a gun won't save you.
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf i bed to differ having a gun will save you, at the very least it will help.
dp665 5 months ago
@dp665 How? If someone has a gun pointed at you to mug you, you have a gun on you as well but not drawn already (since having drawn first makes you the criminal)...how does this help. It gives them another gun once they shoot you but that's all. The only way it helps is if they were stupid enough to leave it on you put there's away and so give you a shot.
So how will you defend yourself then? If they have a gun you lose so do you need one for people without a gun? Ditch guns, it's safer.
stathamajf 5 months ago
What you said has been disproved by every conflict in human history, if what you said were true, swords and daggers would not have been made, firearms would not have been made, and law enforcement would not carry firearms. Heck why hasnt the military figured this out? Arming their soilders is actually just supplying the enemy with arms, they should just get rid of their guns! But wait, then why would t he enemy want to capture the guns, according to you its just a lump of metal slowing them down
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@stathamajf there are a few different things you can do to even the playing field or even get an edge... one would be (if your like me and carry at the 5 oclock position) reach for your gun when going for your wallet... the perp is none the wiser. then when you have your hand on the gun, lock eyes with the robber then glance over his shoulder, naturaly he is going to turn and look, even say thank god a cop not yelling but like at normal conversation tone, he will look when he does.
dp665 5 months ago
@stathamajf Continue... pull and fire. it will give you that split second needed to get your gun out and a shot off... second way... i always carry 2 guns one accessable with either hand. one is left side pocket. tell the guy your gonna comply with him, your gonna give him all your valuables. reach in the right poket give him everything, reach in your back pocket same time reach in the left pocket, when retreving your wallet from your back pocket go to hand it to him but "accedently"
dp665 5 months ago
@stathamajf Continue... drop it. while he watches it fall to the ground and bends over to grab it pull your gun from your left pocket and shot him. he will be to distracted going for the wallet to very notice. there are ways and techniques to get the upper hand you just have to stay calm and think... my personal fav is the first one.
dp665 5 months ago
Okay, Yes, America is violent. But that's because it's a nation where political leaders and politicians don't give a shit. Don't blame the people.
mrpinkproduction92 11 months ago
@mrpinkproduction92 I will blame the people. It takes two to tango.
raenBow27 11 months ago
If guns r so good, explain y the crime rate and murders r really high....
Although not all people who own guns are maniacs, there r a few people who use guns in a dangerous way
ashy386 1 year ago
What a pussy, I think the best way for him to shoot a gun is with the barrel in his mouth.
ReaverVex 1 year ago
Funny thing is that guns aren't even protection, they just allow for collateral damage. Guns are dangerous, idiotic and there is absolutely no reason that anyone should be able to own one.
qwegergtdf 1 year ago 9
@qwegergtdf Exactly, more guns just means more bullets in the air, most of them fired by action movie loving morons with no proper training, panicking at actually being in danger and generally just making things worse. All the while the criminal has still shot you since they by definition had their gun out first.
stathamajf 5 months ago
Everyone Type "Won" Before youtube.com
leahcim2211 1 year ago
honestly its not that bad in the US its worse in mexico and guns are illegal there but then again americans give mexicans guns while they give us coke
dutchgangsta1 1 year ago
@itsdamo1993 wth... your bullshitting them all mate... Australia never has any more school shootings or shooting rampages.. Want to know why? Because they banned guns.. And what do you know.. as soon as they did death toll from gun related situations dropped massively to almost ZERO!.. Dont try and act like your in life or death... Just lame little kid you are trying to act tough on the net haha ..
69sexdemon69 1 year ago 3
@69sexdemon69 So are you immune to sarcasm or what?
Lizzzeg 11 months ago
Theres no problems in owning a gun, I do but these people are just idiots
liamg3095 1 year ago
osama bin laden not ozama bin laden
MaZaKeRaL 1 year ago
@MaZaKeRaL okkkkk, we dont need to know how to spell ur dads name! nigger
dravidr007 1 year ago
@dravidr007 what's that smell? was it a fart oh no it's just a curry munching indian bastard from the slums who married a dog and worships rat. That explains the flies it's about time you applied for welfare refugee rather than talking shit on your friend's computer. Curry cunt.
MaZaKeRaL 1 year ago
Most shootings in America happen in poor urban areas between idiots who want to be somebody
Im american and yeah, I own guns, but the way some Americans abuse the right sickens me
jschreiner29 1 year ago
LOL, the owner's more afraid of cameras than guns.
LilAlfiq 1 year ago
@LilAlfiq Camera's shoot just like guns do.
Azner2254 1 year ago
LMAO he actually shot ok!
boxa1500 1 year ago
Love how they chase him off,.
They remeber the 2nd amendment but not the first
Jaihadist 1 year ago
You look like you're enjoying shooting that gun far too much. lol!
bongoobong 1 year ago
Don't try to reason with Americans, it's like climbing Mount Everest. Takes ample amount of time and hard work, and in the end nothing has changed.
LiNaK37 1 year ago 5
I bet that gun show organizer thought he was a big man pushing a chick around
TheHumanObservation 1 year ago 51
All you people from country's that can't own guns are just so cute and sweet about not being have right even close to ours. Your all like children, rascals the lot of ya.Don't worry your big brov gov will take care of you.
molanlabexm15 1 year ago
@molanlabexm15
You're my hero action man,
I can only hope that if some kid ever robs for $20 on the street, that you are there to shoot him in the brain.
itsdamo1993 1 year ago 3
@itsdamo1993 Only if he is a threat to my life. We're firearms owners not savages.
molanlabexm15 1 year ago
@molanlabexm15
Yeah that's true, every time I go outside I'm usually put in life or death situations, they're so common over here in Australia.
We live in fear and we all wish we could have unlimited access to assault rifles, then maybe our murders, cop killings and school shooting rampages would drop down to the USA's levels.
Good work America, the world envies you.
itsdamo1993 1 year ago 97
@itsdamo1993 Ouch :D
Darusdei 1 year ago
@itsdamo1993
Yeah but you have limited freedom. We have guns to protect our freedom from the possibility of the government, which has plenty of guns, trying to take that freedom away from us. In Australia you will be arrested for playing video games that 5 year olds in the US can handle. I suppose that is too much for the minds of a nation founded by violent criminals to process. God forbid your government lets you have guns. This is fun satire but dont be an idiot.
bosshog7169 7 months ago
@bosshog7169 if you knew nething it wasnt convicts thats founded this place it was captian cook years after finding australia they started to move convicts over r we clear and u wont be arrested for playing video games i got a six year old that wud thrash u on cod and who said aussies dont have guns go get a license and you got your gun fuk man do your maths if your gonna try to bag countrys f boy
MrLordy1985 6 months ago
@MrLordy1985
So you are positing that everyone is descended from captain cook? That would make you a nation of inbreds. Either you are inbreds or criminals, which side do you prefer?
bosshog7169 6 months ago
@bosshog7169 That's funny, my mother is australian and there isn't a single convict in the family. There's some guys that earned land in australia for their service in the british army, some of them just went there for a new life and so on.
Stop making a false dilemma too. It's not because people don't own guns that the state will take over and kill everyone. Oh and we have guns here too. The problem aren't guns, it's the easy access to guns for everyone.
ivanlagrossemoule 6 months ago
@ivanlagrossemoule
So why is the US governement conspiring against gun owners? Look up the ATF's Fast and Furious operation since you clearly don't know what time it is. Meanwhile inbred criminal australians let their government tell them they can't even play video games like Mortal Kombat because it will warp their retarded minds, so at least we're still better off than them.
bosshog7169 6 months ago
@bosshog7169 ...seriously...can't tell if tolling or just really, realy, REALLY stupid.
stathamajf 5 months ago
@bosshog7169 5 yr olds should not be playing games like cod and sh*t, they just shouldn't. The age sticker is there for a damn reason. And you seriously believe america is a more free country then others that have fewer guns...really?
stathamajf 5 months ago
@molanlabexm15 If he's a threat to your life and you have a gun that means he likely has one too, otherwise you could just tell him to drop the knife or whatever and he'd do so to avoid you shooting him. If he has a gun then he's pulled it before you have (otherwise you're the criminal holding him at gun point) which means he has a gun on you, you have a lump of metal weighing down your pocket...how does this help?
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf really?He'll just drop the knife?Are you sure?So if somebody points a gun at me i, should shoot him in his face like a true Amerricun or put my life in his hands give him what he wants?Tell me had would you have handle the following situation?Talk it out? When seconds and life are at stake, i will never, ever negotiate with anyone with for my life.It's too precious. So is yours. Watch this video and let me know what ya think. type: Knife Robbery Ends In A Bloodbath Gun Save Lives
molanlabexm15 5 months ago
@molanlabexm15 If you have a gun on him then yes, he will. Unless he's crazy in which case you'll need something pretty big to drop him fast enough, something you definitely won't have on you unless you're a cop or soldier and on duty.
I'm glad to hear you consider your life more valuable then anything else, personally I think other peoples lives have valuie too, so I'd rather not shoot someone. If they have a gun and it's on you then if you're good enough to win, you didn't need the gun.
stathamajf 5 months ago
@molanlabexm15 If you have a gun on him then yes, he will. Unless he's crazy in which case you'll need something pretty big to drop him fast enough, something you definitely won't have on you unless you're a cop or soldier and on duty.
I'm glad to hear you consider your life more valuable then anything else, personally I think other people's lives have value too, so I'd rather not shoot someone. If they have a gun and it's on you then if you're good enough to win, you didn't need the gun.
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf When it comes to me being robbed my gentlemanly pleasantries go right out the window and are generally replaced with righteous,anger towards the would be thief.Unless they are much stronger and meaner then me.Granted i have never been robbed nor have i been victim of burglary.I do not carry firearm on my person unless i am at the range or hunting afield.The reason for this is the same as why my lawn is tall.I'll mow it later.Or in this case get my CCW permit later. Stay British.
molanlabexm15 5 months ago
@molanlabexm15 Video was a pretty blatant fake, no arterial spray from what should have been a fatal throat slit, a knife that continued t be harmless, an over powered gun. several time oddities and people acting very strangely. Not to mention the picked and chosen camers angles. But hey let's say it is real, all it shows it that people prefer to be lazy and buy power then train for it, yay for seeling strength to the highest bidder, the money obviously ensures they have the discipline to use it
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf Are you "taking a piss"?.He did not die because the would be murderer was a living fool, became a dying fool and now is a dead fool.Because dying IS for fools.Seriously though are you kidding?Coming from the number one nation for CCTV cameras you sure are a poor judge of video.The idea that people simply train and become Bruce Lee is a ludicrous arguement reminiscent of 7th grade debate team. Please google Shop knife man shot by owner. It's a full UK article.Read the comments please
molanlabexm15 5 months ago
@molanlabexm15 'taking the piss' and no I'm not. Dying is for everyone, everybody dies. The murderer stabs him twice in the gut with nothing blocking the blows, yet he fails to bleed out from the gaping holes hat aren't in his gut. Slit throatsbleed. Whether or not there's an article the video is faked. And of course you won't become bruce lee, but anyone can get good enough to deal with someone with a knife. the comments were just nonsense about not letting 'tha gov'ment take our guns! yeeha!'
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf I know dying is for everybody.But your full of fucking shit dog.Ya know what else not a single one of the comments in that article said anything about the government taking guns.They roundly agreed your justice system has become convoluted by lack of insight regarding what justice is.I mean you guys went from,"We shall never surrender." to "we're too irresponsible a people to own guns" Maybe most people in England are criminal minded.The wanton looting in London supports that notion.
molanlabexm15 5 months ago
@molanlabexm15 And you've gone from producing rational argument to hurling insults. Also I thought you mena the comments on the video. Yes our justice system is messed up, so's yours. You think people are that responsible? I disagree, and considering your increase in insults and ad hominem cr*p I think I'll leave it there. The last word is yours is you want it.
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf Please forgive me.and if i have offended you im sorry. It jus makes me angry.All internet troll shit aside, but im telling ya man, insults is not what im trying to talk to ya about.So just let me give mad respekst to tha West Staines Massive in turn.I just can't comprehend why your laws are such and i think along firearms laws you've made a error in the UK.I can't live with out may gins and im not out for blood but if can't have an AR 15 and 30 round mags, then i have no hobby mate.
molanlabexm15 5 months ago
@stathamajf Its better then what the UK has, where it is illegal to defend yourself. And i find it funny how you arrogant people always find yourself argueing with Americans about how they should run America.... You really are just out looking for fights, i think you dont like people having guns because when you go out rioting and looting you dont want the shop owner to stop you, you seem like the type.
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@1ohtaf1 No, just ilegal to go too far. I never said what you should do, just defended the logic of our position, you are projecting your own arrogance I'm afraid.
As to me I'm a med student ass hat, when did you last try to help someone? The spate of people talking sh*t about the riots just shows how little you know about the country you keep claiming to understand, I have the humility to refrain from claiming knowledge of what your country is like, perhaps you could try the same.
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf I never claimed i knew everything about anyother nation, last time i checked you were the end all expert for US lawmakers, so much so you didnt realise that the 2nd amendment gives "the right of the people to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed". And after reading your comment i enjoyed that you finally added some "facts" into your replys, such as: "No, just ilegal to go too far" backed up by: " I'm a med student ass hat" The Brit which happens to be an expert on American law.
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@1ohtaf1 I thought we were debating ethics and logistics, I've never told you to change your laws, you've said it to me and others in these comments but I did not. And I'm fully aware of the 2nd amendment, never understood how your country puts so much weight on a centuries old document for it's current laws but that's your call.
My point is that you obviously know nothing about me so how can you claim I'm violent? I know little about american law, but that's not what we're discussing.
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf My country? Im pretty sure my country does not have something called the 2nd Amendment in the constitution... We were debating ethics but i dont see how we were debating logistics.... I think you are too stupid to tell the difference between logic and logistics..... what a fail. I called you violent based on the fact that you said "i cant lie, i like fighting" and continue to state that you like knife fights.
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@1ohtaf1 My apologies, did I get the name wrong or are you not american? Logistics as in whether or not the ideas we were throwing around work, that would fit the definition I have for the word. Violence is measured by how hard you try to get into fights, I enjoy them but I don't seek them out. That would be wrong.
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf
lo·gis·tics
noun (plural) /ləˈjistiks/ /lō-/
logistics, plural
1.The detailed coordination of a complex operation involving many people, facilities, or supplies
- the logistics and costs of a vaccination campaign
2.The organization of moving, housing, and supplying troops and equipment
3.The commercial activity of transporting goods to customers
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@1ohtaf1 I don't recall mentioning a dictionary, to me that word has the more colloquial defintion of processes of whether or not a certain idea is workable. The logistics of an idea being the workability of it in reality. Supposen that's probably just where I'm from. Either way thanks for pointing it out but I;m curious why you added that last line when you failed to respond to my other points. At all.
Again this is going nowhere, please stop clogging up my inbox. I hate pointless things.
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf "to me that word has the more colloquial defintion of processes of whether or not a certain idea is workable" In other words, you are saying "Its not what it means but i use it because i like pulling shit out my arse" Love more "facts" right there... Pointless things you mention, like getting into knife fights because you enjoy being a non-violent person? HMmmmm....
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
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@itsdamo1993 Just as long as it's not your kid.
molanlabexm15 5 months ago
@molanlabexm15 wow man, your a gun loving american and stupid as well.... couldn't see that coming...
cyz44 10 months ago 4
@cyz44 Dude, just calm down or 'll have the warden put you in the punishment block. Crims like you shouldn't have guns anyways. : )
molanlabexm15 10 months ago
@molanlabexm15 haha...you are real big man...
cyz44 10 months ago
@molanlabexm15 haha i like ur calm attitude or naybe ur not calm
redliqued 10 months ago
@redliqued I am actually one of those "cool guys" i like to drink sometimes and my car is black and its fast. And every now and then i get laid. XD.
molanlabexm15 10 months ago
@molanlabexm15 okaaaay
redliqued 10 months ago
@redliqued Yeahhhhh
molanlabexm15 10 months ago
@molanlabexm15 oh dude ur so cool man you have a MASSIVE POWERFUL GUN!!!! a FAST BLACK CAR!!!! OH YEAH!! and YOU LIKE TO GET WASTED!!!!
i on the other hand have none of these but i do posses something you obviously don't, A BIG COCK!
ainsleywainsley 8 months ago
@ainsleywainsley No you don't. Go back home now little boy. Anyways ho in the hell give a flying fuck about your bitch ass rooster. Besides my Irish heritage is roundly accepted as being as being indivisibly one in the same with a big penis, which unlike you, i have. Plus your name is Ainsley. Which if we look at 21st century edition of Websters dictionary tells us is effeminate male with stretched unsealable anus, with little or no reputation for persuasive conjecture with females. Unquote.
Bigtanner7 8 months ago
@Bigtanner7 1) irsh people are known for being drunks who start fights for no reason, this is because their dicks are the size of a baby's and because its so small they need to try and prove themself as a man thru random violence 2) ainsley isnt my real name idiot its a username, 3) names arent found in the dictionary u dumb shit, and lastly 4) U have guns, you own a "fast black car", you like to drink/ ur irish. this all points out u have an issue with power, related to ur small cock
ainsleywainsley 7 months ago
@ainsleywainsley Yeah well your still bitch Ainsley. Eat your fingers and swallow your tongue.
molanlabexm15 7 months ago
@ainsleywainsley No you don't. Go back home now little boy. Anyways ho in the hell give a flying fuck about your bitch ass rooster. Besides my Irish heritage is roundly accepted as being as being indivisibly one in the same with a big penis, which unlike you, i have. Plus your name is Ainsley. Which if we look at 21st century edition of Websters dictionary tells us is effeminate male with stretched unsealable anus, with little or no reputation for persuasive conjecture with females. Unquote.
molanlabexm15 8 months ago
@molanlabexm15 ...no, I'll take care of me, see gun crime is low enough here that as long as you can deal with a few guys with knives you're fine. Or do you not have the balls to take a few punches? Have to have a gun before you can defend yourself? As to my rights, at least I can proclaim myself an atheist without being shunned by society.
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf You are such a violent person, most people that own guns for self defence dont want people to break in so they have to use it, but you seem to pleasure yourself by fantisizing having punch outs and knife fights in the streets. Is that why you want to ban guns? You want to go out and pick fights without the chance of you being shot?
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
I like Chasers alot, but I don't like this clip. There hasn't been a single recorded case where gun control stopped crime. Sorry, but if you ban guns, criminals can still get them. Like in Australia, where they went out of there way to destroy every gun owned by citizens, and the crime spiked dramatically.
fingersticks74 1 year ago
@fingersticks74 And yet Australia's crime rates are 400% less than America. Even those statistics don't allow for a population change.
warmingthesoul 1 year ago 3
@warmingthesoul ...that still does not count for percentages... You see percentages do not change if the total changes, it is relative, so your logic is flawed. That still doesn't account for how the crime rate went up when the banned hand guns in dc. It's not about the amount of crime, it about how the rate goes up compared to how It was before.
fingersticks74 1 year ago
@fingersticks74 of course crime goes up if you ban guns in a place surrounded by other places where you can still get guns. Did they collect guns, did they do anything to stop people withn guns coming in? If not then it was the gov's fault not the ban's
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf The government creates the laws and is supposed to enforce it, if they cant that shows the public how incompitant they are that they cant even back up what they want to do.
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@fingersticks74
Australia had gun control at levels Americans have nightmares about *before* "they went out of there way to destroy every gun owned by citizens".
Violent crime did not spike dramaticlly, claiming so is just ridiculous. Homicides kept falling, and other violent crimes kept rising. Non-violent crimes are irrelevant.
And who cares anyway, the American constitution does not allow gun control, so it doesn't matter if gun control is good or bad it just isn't allowed.
jedfa987 1 year ago
Anerica is the most fearful country in the world.
mrbollocks1979 1 year ago
@mrbollocks1979 Not when you got handgun at your side.
fingersticks74 1 year ago
.... your gun laws are too lax. way too lax, they made us watch doco'son the columbine massacre and i just dont see the need to carry a weapon around that has a bigger consequence if you use it then most are ready for.
all in all its called comedy and the chaseres do it well
MCCglasssmashers 1 year ago
@MCCglasssmashers sure its a joke and it might not be that serious but it reinforces the medias bs that banning guns are going to make us safer.
1ohtaf1 1 year ago
Not particle to carry around a big stick or a sword- only an American would say that lol
mwhite4324 1 year ago
haha what a douche. he jumped like a little girl when he heard the gunshots
johndoe1880 1 year ago
Stupid media. If you want to be so safe live in cages or put everyone in a coma, we all be safe =) Australia bans lazer pointers, kids toys, knives, movies, video games, and now probably the internet. WOW freedom and a false sense of "security" tastes sweet.
1ohtaf1 1 year ago
wow this daytona roadster guy is brilliant, three comments and three fuckups :)
knuthoem85 1 year ago
"You seem angry, and clearly own a gun." :P
JamesFarrkoff 1 year ago 4
fuck u bitch
billyalex159 1 year ago
He's not British DaytonaRoadster. Clean the shit out ya ears man!
WaxPatches1987 1 year ago
UK=britfag, no one cares
DaytonaRoadster 1 year ago
@DaytonaRoadster Australian!!! Like I said, Clean the shit out your ears.
WaxPatches1987 1 year ago
ooo cause the land of joesph frtizl is much different from england, fuckin nigger
DaytonaRoadster 1 year ago
@DaytonaRoadster Now your thinking of Austria. Give up dude. xxoo
WaxPatches1987 1 year ago
was this Britfag trying to make a point? Cause he fails at it
DaytonaRoadster 1 year ago
@DaytonaRoadster Failed? More like owned!
aaaapaapt 1 year ago
D.C recently lifted a gun ban and they have had the lowest death rate since 1961
Gunluver1 1 year ago
...from the safest country in the world!
That's genious XD
watermelonandpotato 1 year ago
Canada has more guns per population, but US is full of murders, high on MTV shite, brainwashed on anti-semitics, completely illiterate anti-theological zionists, compelled by sex over any form of real commitment to love or suffering, hooked on sugar, suckers for political rape of other nations resources. God.. save America. Hmmm... but I'll come over and check it out.. I need to help my cousins in California from their lust for money!
nzzenith 1 year ago 2
giving osama bin laden the dick chaney treatment
that line always cracks me up
bigswano 1 year ago 3
yeah, it's also know as the "greatest country in the world." quadruple sarcasm... it's going down fast, but only after centuries of abuse... ethnic cleansing & abuse of the indigenous communities, slavery, international violence & economic exploitation... & on & on... the empire is crumbling, as they all eventually do...
yviva 1 year ago
For all of you who hate the idea of weapons in the hands of the citizens : Go douch your vaginas a few times. We can't all be pussies like you are.
TrueBlueJMS 1 year ago
u shot in ossama s picture
and we shot in bosh s picture
deuce
uzummaki 2 years ago
im waving im waving
jokerman9311 2 years ago
I'm American, and I just bought my first gun. It's an antique Russian rifle from the World War II era, it cost $117.36 including tax and I had to wait ten days to pick it up. This weekend, I plan to spend a great deal of time washing it with white spirit and totally re-surfacing all of it's parts so that it will finally be safe and ready to have sex with.
lycurgusthelawgiver 2 years ago
Hahaha i gotta love these inbred gun maniacs.
WAVE THOSE FUCKING FLAGS, WAVE EM'!
Darusdei 2 years ago 3
not practicle to carry a big stick, hah, a walking cane and knowingeven slightly some basic moves can work fine.
elgostine 2 years ago 4
Say that with a bullet hole in your head, lol
TrueBlueJMS 1 year ago
true.. and thestandard tactic to being held at range wth a gn is give up. and OPE they come close enough and drop their guard. other than that... yeah i do see the problem. but a stick will see you through a MAJORITY of brawls and sudden attacks whic,as i understand are at close quaters unless ive misread it.
elgostine 1 year ago
Unless you know Krav Maga and are amazing at it I wouldn't recommend it. Never make the mistake of bringing a stick to a gun fight.
TrueBlueJMS 1 year ago
pretty much yeah, my suyggestion doesnt take guns into account much, which can be a flaw.
elgostine 1 year ago
ha thats funny, we do love our guns. But guns exist and if someone wants one bad enough they will get it even if its illegal, then you will just have the bad people with guns. You have to register a gun if you buy it so if you shot someone with it you will get caught. Most people that use guns illegally buy guns illegally
johnnyrotten32 2 years ago
fair point, but the more guns out there the easier it is for "bad" people to get a gun. and the more people have guns the higher chances of somebody getting shoot. example if you get robed by an armed man and you are unarmed you loose your money. If you have a gun and try/succede in using it you might end up shoot/dead or charged with shooting somebody. I prefer just loosing some money that I can regain from my travel insurrance anyway :)
knuthoem85 1 year ago
@knuthoem85 good on you for letting criminals get and do what they please, but i prefer to have to right to defend myself, and if the criminals intend on killing me i would rather scare them away with my gun then to die because idiots like you belive that women and children should be under fear of criminals and let them take whatever they like and inhumanly control them like slaves rather then stopping them. You disgust me.
1ohtaf1 1 year ago
Never said that I would let them do what they want withouth consequences, They would naturally be hunted down by the police and procecuted. Thing is, if you use your gun against them, you end up with a standof that makes it much more likely that you will get killed. But I suppse this is a subjective subject depending on how safe your surroundigs are. I live in Norway where we dont realy have a gun problem so I dont have a need for it to protect me. Im gona make a wild guess you are american
knuthoem85 1 year ago
No im Australian, and our country bans alot of guns, lazer pointers, kids toys, movies, video games and now probably the internet. I dont know about you but alot of people would rather scare away or shoot a rapist that breakes into their home rather then get killed and their daughters raped and then wait for the police to find him, wait 6 months until he gets a trial, the system lets everyone down and he goes free untill 10 years later then the case is reopened and he is put away for 18 months.
1ohtaf1 1 year ago
@1ohtaf1 If you can't scare away a rapist etc without a gun then it's probably cause he's either crazy or has a gun. If he broke into your house with a gun then he probably has the drop on you. So how does having a gun help you?
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf That doesnt make sense, so if a rapist is so keen on raping someone, why would he would freak out when he comes in contact with the un armed person he planned to rape, it was his plan all along and its working perfectly... Why would they have the drop on me? It is my house and i know the layout of it in and out, he doesnt and he is mobile and probably has a smaller firearm like a handgun, i am stationary at my house and can take a more capable weapon like a longarm.
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@1ohtaf1 So you stay up all night, with a longarm nearby, waiting for the rapist to come rushing through the door? a 9mm will kill you dead just fine, also seriously you see no way to scare someone off without a gun?
stathamajf 5 months ago
No, your stupidity amuses me. You are basicly saying that using a gun against an armed intruder is making it worste because it is stopping him from doing bad things. You are either a retard that is too stupid to connect the dots or a person that perfers a world of violence where criminals get and do what they want because stopping them will "make it worste".
1ohtaf1 1 year ago
Many indsidants happen where a mad man could calmly walk around a restraunt or school and take his time to aim then shoot his targets because retards like you make laws preventing them from a right to defend themselves because you would feel that it could "make it worste" by making it harder for the mad man to continue what he was doing and giving the inocent a fighting chance and save lives.
1ohtaf1 1 year ago
@1ohtaf1 If you dont like Australian laws then PISS OFF. Its obvious you are either young and/or stupid so im not even going to bother arguing with a minor. If you want to protect yourself use your FISTS you faggot.
ryanacehigh 1 year ago
@ryanacehigh yes, good idea when an armed intruder breaks into your house, you have the upper hand when you use your fists instead of a firearm. And you are the stupid one who falls for whatever the media throws at you and has no logic in their ideals.
1ohtaf1 1 year ago
@1ohtaf1 Heres some logic. What about if he was unarmed because the law prevented him from having a firearm? Wow understand now? The pros of having guns does not out weigh the cons.. Your logic is a perfect scenario.. Its more like hundreds of people die in consequent gun violence then one armed intruder being stopped by someone protecting themselves with a gun.. That logic mate..
ryanacehigh 1 year ago
@ryanacehigh You fail, if the person wants to kill people, its AGAINST the law, so why do you think they will obey a law saying they cant carry? Pros of having guns out weighs the cons, you are an idiot. If you dont want to get a gun, thats your loss dont get one but its retards like you that ruin our freedom by having your "ideals" that causes crime to rise.
1ohtaf1 1 year ago
@1ohtaf1 Because the first is an easy law to break, people die easy you just have to choose to kill someone. Getting a gun when it's illegal however is hard, hence countries with blanket gun bans have fewer guins, hence less likely the criminal will have a gun.
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf "Getting a gun when it's illegal however is hard" For law abiding citizens its impossible, for criminals it is as easy. Actually you are right, banning it stops criminals from getting it cause they obey the law, like the ban on drugs.... oh wait...
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@1ohtaf1 I live in such a country, friends of mine have tried to get guns, let me say this clearly. It. Is. Almost. Impossible. Criminals still have it almost impossible, so no that isn't right, you can't grow a gun nor sneak them around in a few inches of space like you can drugs.
stathamajf 5 months ago
@stathamajf you cant just grow ice or heroin and have instant profit either. Prisoners had made guns with lead pipes before....
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@stathamajf They are not complicated at all, a sewing machine is 10 times more complicated than a automatic rifle.
1ohtaf1 5 months ago
@ryanacehigh You have no logic, the criminal is breaking the law when he breaks into your house, what makes you think he will obey the law that says he cant have a gun? The only person that wont have a gun because of the law is the owner of the house.
1ohtaf1 1 year ago
@1ohtaf1 Hahahahaha learn how to ENGLISH hahaha my god you are a brain dead fuck. Imagine a country WITHOUT GUNS. It doesnt fucking matter if its a law or not because the GUNS ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE.. GET IT? Its well known by anyone with a IQ over that of YOU that with high accessibility of guns will make crime rates rise. Saying that my "ideals&qu