Siege of Russian Parliament Broken

[dinitis]

It is astonishing that the President can order artillery fire on his country's white house. This has to be one of the most defining moments of history in the 90's

[BrianFoley64]

And not once did the reporters mention that the people being murdered within the Russian Parliament by the Yeltsinite Bandits were the democratically elected representatives of the Russian people.

[radurambo]

I hope Yeltsin rots in hell. He and all those responsible for destroying the human dream for a better society. Those who destroyed socialism.

[eldrotto]

Now life in russia is worse than in USSR.

[monarchiko]

@LTBiermacht

You know someone that knows someone. Yes, you can find some, but not all. And, yes, I'm sure there are many people positive about fascism. Stupid tough is believe something is right because some people is positive about something.

[BrooklynNY1992]

Damn, too bad the communists didn't take over the government man! They were so close! What I ask is why didn't they take it over successfully?

[turtlesoviet]

Although Yeltsin is dead, I say that his corpse should be hanged again.

The most awful leader of all Russian history. Even Nicholas II would have been better than him.

[CrimsonGhost85]

hahahhahahaaaaaa !!!!!!! hanged again ! I totally agree !

[monarchiko]

Let me try to understand. You are a communist living in Canada? A capitalist country?

Are you canadian? Don't lookl like. But if you are immigrant, I advise you to live in North Korea.

[Dudtz]

North Korea isn't Communist.

[popcud41]

Yes you are right, it is just a authoritarian... Communist must be according to Marx and Lenin way...

[stads24]

Canada is socialist capitalism. We actually believe in strong social services--like medicare and social assistance.

[Dudtz]

Yeltsin=jerk ass

[calripson]

The Commies should have taken a page out of the Chechens book from 1994. A few hundred armed men, pre-positoned snipers, and most importantly RPG/anti-tank teams to light up the first dozen tanks, BTRs, and BMPs that showed up and they would have won. Yeltsin was hated by 1993 and only a lot of American cash used to bribe the Tamansky Division commanders saved Yeltsin's ass. (Cash straight from the U.S. embassy).

[calripson]

"Was there any demonstrations against Lenin.." Umm, ever hear about a little thing called the Russian Civil War ?

[turtlesoviet]

True, but the White army never had support from the masses.

[Darki881]

fking Yeltsin burn in hell! Long live the Russian Empire! Slava Rossii!

[SerStrizh]

Well, to the so-respected Darki881, I should say: Without Yeltsin modern Russia would not have existed. Yeltsin is the greatest leader and most honest man in history. You would not have been able to write this if not for Yeltsin, who gave Freedom to Russia, how don't you understand?

[turtlesoviet]

Oh, really.

You don't know Russia under Yeltsin.

In Yeltsin's time, 40% of Russians were below poverty level. Soviet times were never that horrible. According to some old Russians, "They didn't have this situation even in the war times(WW2 I presume)"

[monarchiko]

Sorry, but you have to think in one thing. Soviets ruled for how many years? The end of Soviet Union happened because of what? Economy?

Understand one thing, the vicious of the Soviet regime can not be wipe out in 10 yrs when the dirty stayed for almost 90 yrs in Russia.

[turtlesoviet]

Soviet? Vicious?

Not really. Not after Stalin died.

You see, alot of Russians say they prefer the 'vicious' Soviet period. Especially the old ones.

You should know Americans showed an equal, or probably more vicious actions toward other nations and/or it's own people. Excluding Lenin-Stalin period which remains as a chaos of Soviet history.

[monarchiko]

Yes, soviet heritage.

Yes, the old ones grew in that system, they had the brain washed out. The youngers have the nostalgy to belong a big empire. But it was an evil empire. In socialism, individual isn't slave from someone, but slave of the state, property of the state. The state didn't anything for you, everything come from of the people's work, they just stole it and get the credit.

[CrimsonGhost85]

You gotta get your fuckin facts straight. What your just decribed was CAPITALISM.

THE FUCKING CAPITALISTS brainwash people like you into thinking that communism is bad so you can slave for the caps for little pay and they can fire you for any reason. NOBODY gets fired at a job in a communist country. COMMUNISM IS TRUE FREEDOM. Dont believe the capitalist propaganda.

[CrimsonGhost85]

that comment went to monarchiko. And for your info, capitalism is a lie.

[monarchiko]

Yeah. So fascists tell me the same. This is a brainwashing from the "jewish mafia" or "capitalist". They are also "socialist" like Hitler.

Sure nobody gets fired in a communist country, just because there is not work, just slavery. If you can't say NO to work, if you can't choose to work or not, you are a slave. Understand that. And in a communist country, the state can force you to work. So, communism is unreal. Idealism. You can say nothing about facts.

[shuggy1991]

In capitalism though you may have the choice but if you say no you become homeless. So the illusion that we have a choice is an ILLUSION were forced and tricked in to working cause if we dont we dont get a home. Communism you get every thing in the human needs chain for free all you have to do is work for your community. That isnt slavery.

[monarchiko]

Every nation has problems, nobody is perfect. But the fact is, solidarity just came from individualism. And to share something, you need to conceive the private property and the individual iniciative.

You can't be altruist sharing the things of the other people, this is stealing. So, if you give something to someone not believing in property, you share nothing, someone access what belongs to him. So, socialism, sorry, is a lie.

[turtlesoviet]

So thats great! Thats just so nice, so logical. Anyone who is positive about Soviets are brainwashed or nostalgic, while every anti-soviet idea is a proper thing?

You don't make a great point with that one.

And about socialism(or I think you really mean communism), Soviet style communism(Stalinism) was not totally communist. In fact, their 'distribution' was often according to someone's achievements:instead of all-equal distribution.

You don't know much about the Soviet Union do you?

[monarchiko]

Well. Brainwashed and nostalgic? Yeap, they are. The fact is soviet union never was a "brotherhood of a nation". No one wanted, but they had to deal it just because it was imposed.

The same form, every german who was positive about nazism. So what? You can find easily germans who lived in that time who likes nazism. You can find lot people in many countries that prefer fascism. No, I meant socialism, because it is in socialism that ends the private property "in theory".

[turtlesoviet]

No they are not. Current situation in many of former soviet states are worse then in the Soviet Union. So what the hell are you talking about? And you seem to be more brainwashed then any other Soviet people. Have you even met these people? Far more educated than Americans I say.

Oh, and I support the Soviet Union itself. So your random rantings about communism don't exactly apply.

Also, you are starting an 8month old arguement and your opinion is not that convincing anyway. Get a life :(

[monarchiko]

Supposedly, in socialism, everything belongs to the State. So, it doesn't exist "private property", but just an individual usage setted by the State.

Was not totally communist? In fact, if we chat with communist all over the world, they say there was no communism, even socialism, but a "state capitalism". Term stolen from the ex- kgb agent, yuri bezmenov.

[turtlesoviet]

And add capital letters on the start of someone's name like "Yuri Bezmenov". Even I know that, and english is not my naitive language :)

[monarchiko]

I write the way I want. And, yes, "I'll get a life", as I did in theses "8 months". I don't wanna convince you of nothing. Still believing.

So, you can write, but you can hear and understand. Well, au revoir...

[monarchiko]

So, if the distribution was oftern according to someone's achievements, where is the equality? This creates classes. So, in the end, let me understand, URSS failed to achieve communism, right? Oh, and that guys, the illuminated ones, told lies saying they can create a paradise on earth?

[turtlesoviet]

And as I said again : Soviet Union is not a paradise, but was a far better society than capitalist ones. Which the Russians are learning the hard way. And what, you tell someone else to go to North Korea just because of their beliefs? You are sick. You are just another one of those guys, who go on about "Soviets are liars, Americans are truthful. Believ in US or you are all brainwashed."

Seriously. I can give you plenty of example of US being much worse, and untruthfull than USSR.

[polygamous1]

no i do NOT understand do you? what is it to understand in a man that sold" Billiond of Russia's assts for peanuts while his people where starving he almost destroyed Russian military power too that TRAITOR piece of western run shit when he send his troops against his OWN parliamenmt they called him the great democrat in the west the ONLY good thing he did was appointing Mr PUTIN the man who saved Russia n maybe Iran too from an israli/american attack

[Kyzersawsay]

think of it, You would only hate yeltsin if you were born 1918 in Russia. Because Communism is the only form of goverment your used to... And they still vote for the commie party their. Born in 1991, The new goverment is the one your used to. Thats the 10% of russians still want a commie goverment.

[bucovin68]

I hope it will happen again. Drunk moskals will storm and destroy kremlin

[Psicopolizia]

oooooh..there is democracy in U.S.A.!!! (I,m sarcastic)

[Staatssicherheit]

I dont think there is anything called democracy there, because then Communists would have been in charge loong ago. Its all based on novaday lies.

Was there any demonstrations against Lenin when red revolution broke out? no.