What's a Browser User-Agent String?

[chronofusion]

i guess that MOROM, scssiphreak was thinking of Mormons and got brain and tongue tied.LOL. dee dee deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[TheMasterTelevision]

I liked how after you mentioned Java, there was a little rage war over RuneScape lol

[atan0k]

On my personal websites, I always check for the User Agent string on the webserver.

Basically, Apache will always serve the same page to everyone using any version of Internet Explorer.

The page tells them to get a Web Browser and points to all the reasonable options.

[kingcrimson234]

lockergnome isn't even that big of a computer nerd. he's a sham and he's not that smart. i, for example, would pwn him. just sayin'.

[RappingDelight]

The reason no one switched to webkit before Chrome, Safari was the only (popular) browser that implemented it. As we all know, Safari is trash, especially on Windows. Now Chrome's come along with a decent implementation, but I still prefer Opera for its superior customisation.

[adsicks]

@RappingDelight I love Opera to death and it is my favorite browser, but as a developer it is too forgiving ;)

[RappingDelight]

@adsicks I do webdev myself and I don't really think so. Most issues I have with Opera happen when I try to fix it in another browser. Pretty annoying.

Or when websites block Opera for no apparent reason... I'm pretty sure JennyCraig(dot)com still does that. YouTube's URL filter is annoying...

[adsicks]

@RappingDelight Sure enuff 'bout Jenny, what is YT's URL filter? The only diff I had was CSS positioning between IE/Opera/Konquorer and FF/Chrome, but I try to make everything consistent and don't use any -moz stuff.

[RappingDelight]

@adsicks Try sending a message with a URL... even jennycraig(dot)com doesn't work if you use an actual dot.

There's always some CSS issues, but I find it's mostly because of my inconsistent use. All depends on the layouts.

[adsicks]

@RappingDelight Try a div with 2 span's or p's inside with 31 pix high images aligned right of 10px text in the spans and see how the different browsers handle the box...Opera and IE don't overflow the div but Chrome/Fox/Konqueror do. Fox handles the box a little dif on Linux than Win in that case too. It validates to w3c and is proper CSS as far as I know...just the last 10 hrs of work...ugh. but I got 5 cols with div's and no tables...finally.

[RappingDelight]

@adsicks I don't use px at all anymore. It's all % or ems for me. Keeping things mostly fluid or user font size determined.

Locking layouts creates more headaches, at least when you're trying to make everything look the same.

As to whether or not to overflow, there are no guidelines as to that, that why browsers handle it differently, it's also why we have css properties to override some of that standard browser behaviour.

[adsicks]

@RappingDelight Yeah, but a copyright and validator tag line on the footer of a page should be in pixels. Plus the overflow is only hide or scroll. It won't make a div grow. IMHO tables are far more fluid and precise. Plus, my load time didn't improve after all of that work, in fact, both my html and CSS grew in size. I used fixed in my original table layout so it was pretty quick...

[RappingDelight]

@adsicks Why should it be in pixels? There's no reason I can think of for doing that.

Your going from a table toa static div, of course they'll behave differently, they're not the same thing.

Say you want a div that is 300px wide. Your standard font size is 12px. Set the div to 25em and that's what you'll get. Now if the font size changes, it'll scale as well.

You have to throw out the thinking that you're used to from tables and start over.

[adsicks]

@RappingDelight Ever see a copyright notice at the bottom of a magazine. They are always small and insignificant. Also, I use text over my logs and they have to be in pixels. It's much smaller graphics wise to use a background sprite and overlay with text than have a big image.

[RappingDelight]

@adsicks Sorry, but saying tables are more fluid and precise isn't an honourable opinion at all. It's just the past. You can make divs that are more flexible using min and max measurements, using ems and percentages. Step away from pixels and get rid of those static shackles. Fluid comes with it's own headaches, but they're easier to handle in my opinion.

Measuring load time improvements is hard anyway. You see the benefit when you have shared common css across various pages.

[adsicks]

@RappingDelight @RappingDelight I use one sheet for all pages. I'm designing a template. How do you make a div grow to unknown height of content, like from a php script? You can't. It will always run off the page. My table is far better. How can you say a spec is honorable. Computing is what achieves the goals. Remember w3c's killer app that was to spec and looked completely different in all browsers. What are you like some kind of tech medieval catholic?

[RappingDelight]

@adsicks I didn't understand anything from "how can you say" onward. Use more than one reply if you must, the char limit is crazy low.

Unknown height isn't a problem. Don't define it. Just define a min and max (if you must), it'll adjust to whatever is in between.

Tables are never better. Never.

[adsicks]

@RappingDelight Its over 200ms better. Until everyone adopts CSS 3 and I can just tell a browser to do a color gradient. Tables WILL cache if the layout is in CSS. Min and max won't work on a parent div in all browsers. And believe it or not, there are more ppl using IE 6&7 than the new Fox. I see stuff running out of div's all over the place nowadays. Tables are in spec. Not using them is just esoterical fantasy...

[RappingDelight]

@adsicks Table are in the spec for tabular data, not for layouts.

People with IE6 and 7 always get a lesser experience, that's how it is and how it'll always be. You use an old browser, you don't get the whole deal.

The new Fx isn't that great, it keeps on becoming slower and slower, it's why I started using Opera in the first place and now it's the fastest.

For min and max there's always hax. I hate it, but sometimes they have to be done, or feed them a static layout.

[RappingDelight]

@adsicks Once the user has loaded the CSS, they don't need to load it again since it's in their cache. If every page was with tables, they reload that every single fucking time.

If you're HTML grew in size chances are you're doing it wrong. My files always shrunk going from table to clean html, though if you add the css, it tends to be more. It's a small sacrifice considering the benefits. Also, checkout less css, it's sped my work tremendously.

[ryanxwalton]

I use the terminal code in Mac OSX to add the Debug Feature in Safari so I can view webpages as iPhone web apps when I'm developing Web Apps. The code to turn it on in Terminal is: defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1, and the code to turn it off is the same but you change the 1 to a 0. Make sure Safari is off when you do this. You'll see the Debug menu when you turn it back on. Hope this helps anyone out there!

[lordartzi]

oh damn i haven't check Ustream in ages... i remember when it was new and hot.

Gnuzilla FTW

[bluezgun]

opera

\o/

[testingfreak]

awesome monitors dude... whats the max resolution you can churn out?

[tallen0679]

what does "It's a Mozilla based browser" mean if i am on Google Chrome

[sonickidnextgen]

i use firefox opera safari flock Internet Explorer and more.

[patriot006594]

if google chrom is faster why are you using mozilla firefox

[YTMrVulcan]

Probably because Firefox is expandable.

[AZLAN210396]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1b4) Gecko/20090423 Firefox/3.5b4

[seansobes]

hows vista?

[AZLAN210396]

I changed to 7 already

[Jamessharpshooter]

LOL at 0:50

[ijoostin]

I used to think Firefox was fast...

Then my brother in law (a software engineer at Google) introduced me to Chrome.

He asked what the first thing I noticed was...

...speed.

It really is fast.

[nirvan5a]

joke...

[ijoostin]

Umm...

WTF?

You're replying to a comment from a month ago...with a single word.

What are you on about?

[ItseSproductions]

The reason why it's U I N is because U stands for USA, I for International, and N for None. At the moment, U is the standard because I believe that it's only thing the US Government approved. And the International version isn't required.

Anyhow, the site didn't reconize my browser. =(

[GiANtTWiNkY]

lol at 3:15

[codestrikenet]

Its off for me too.. weird.

[Cozzy891]

Is it just me, or has all of these recent videos, the audio been off? maybe its just me..

[wildgeko123]

wtf? my user agent string says im using mozilla firefox but i'm using Tiscali Broadbrand?

Any response?

[ShadowHelper]

Yes Mozilla firefox is the name of your browser. Tiscali Broadband is your internet company.. lol

[Ezalian]

lol...

[roscoe988]

keep up the awesome videos Chris, love what u do! keep it up!!! :)

[davidxssbb]

Use dvorak than your "m" and "n" don't get mixed up... if you can handle change.

[Bam24609]

I have got to say "morom" wtf good job retard, you can't even insult someone correctly. Chris keep up the good work as always.

[AJFreeway]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/3.0.8 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)

[Grimm1337]

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X 10_5_6; en-us) AppleWebKit/528.16 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Safari/528.16

[scsiiphreak]

looked at only the first 10 seconds of your video...and you are a complete morom

[lockergnome]

As opposed to calling someone a... "morom." Dude, seriously? You're trying to call me a MORON, but come across looking like a total dutchbag instead. Morom.

[180DudeForums]

U do not look like a moron you look like a beast :) keep up the videos

[EMSaction]

LMAO dutchbag instead of douchebag. I doubt he'll get it.  You da' man, Chris! I've been a fan of yours since CFH.

[jkewlo]

Pwnd?

[Adrenalinism]

youtube will never, ever be able to get rid of all the 'moroms'. we are eternally doomed. dnt worry chris ur vids rock

[ScottKin]

Whenever someone shows me what a total git they are on YouTube, I just "thumbs-down" them, or mark their comments as "spam" - it's rather effective!



Oh - Hiya, Chris! How is your "x64" Briefcase holding-up?

[snoopster2009]

@lockergnome That coming from the person who terribly misspelled "douchebag."

[CrazyMofoCooling]

Ohh the irony lmao.. can't... stop... laughing

[palmerstanfield]

Sorry man, but you make some pretty hysterical faces.

[Watchthetube2140]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/3.0.8 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)

[hahhahhahhahhahh]

Chrome FTW

[MeisterDonDon]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.2; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/1.0.154.53 Safari/525.19

Chrome ftw ;D

[seljemann]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; nb-NO; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/3.0.8 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)

[MajorDisaster4u]

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2a1pre) Gecko/20090418 Minefield/3.6a1pre

[OblicityFaker]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.28 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.2.2 Safari/525.28.1

[Isaac702Productions]

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2a1pre) Gecko/20090418 Minefield/3.6a1pre

[jimmyjamiejammy]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/3.0.8 GTB5 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)

[Films4You]

ZX80/2.3 (Sinclair; I; Z80; en-UK; rv:1.1.0.2) Baud/28.2 Gopher/2.0.1

LOL, sorry I could not resist a bit good old days fun above :)

[nexus6pris]

Messages are passed by User-Agent strings via the server logs... there is noting like a good tail grep -v log :)

[Daverix]

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032712 Ubuntu/8.10 (intrepid) Firefox/3.0.8

[ThedetoxicatoR]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1b3) Gecko/20090305 Firefox/3.1b3

[xxjamesxxmac]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/3.0.8 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)

[FearedBliss]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/1.0.154.53 Safari/525.19 - Windows 7

[TR1PO1NT]

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032608 Firefox/3.0.8

[ALiTUiK]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/3.0.8 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)

[SeanBondWBB]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 7.2; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/4.0.0 Beta (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)

[ozzzzysh]

the last 30 seconds of this video are... interesting... xD lol

[GamingGuy354]

Im using Netscape

[dan0starr]

woah! chris you got 2121 vids!!!!

[dan0starr]

nah! dont like crhome

i usualy use firefox or safari

[o48Mike]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/3.0.8 GTB5

[maxsuperdudeisawesom]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/3.0.8

[jawn108]

camino is the best browser

[Skydiivin]

im using mozzilla 3.0.8

[quinny707]

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; Trident/4.0; GTB6; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0)

[JordanN5253]

yeah but you have to admit google chrome sucks for downloading :-(

[AirForce194]

Yeah, Chrome is awesome

[gbfgeneralbluefreak]

i don't care about browser speed it's al about the total picture of a browser and i can't live anymore whitout firefox

[xXGokOuXx]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fi; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/3.0.8 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)

[ismetteren]

the HTML rendere(or whatever its called) isent the only thing that decides speed.

[natlinxz]

I finally figured out how chris' monitor is zoomed in! You hold Control and scroll. I was freaked out the first time I did that. (mostly because my wheel is broken and won't scroll back)

[SFA33]

CTRL + +/- to do it using your keyboard. : p

[natlinxz]

Thanks! The only way I got out of it the first time was by opening front row with the Apple Remote.

[korvpall6]

Opera/9.64 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en) Presto/2.1.1

[creativityfilms]

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; el; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/3.0.8

[coporofrito]

stupid stupid as every day

[camdened123456]

once you install plugins into chrome its alot slower than firefox

[lhf1995]

Hey,when I use IE8 beta in Windows 7,it says it's a Mozilla Based Browser...wt*?

[ShadowNam275]

I use Google Chrome and safari for windows ;D

[dandaman06]

Same but I use Firefox aswell.

[starfish258852]

I'm Using Chrome ^^

[slimyesli]

lol runescape=fail

[homestar92]

I love my user agent switcher plugin on Firefox.

[schetleft]

or you could use the navigator function of javascript. Make your own user agent string analyzer ^_^

[mrsmith427]

XX_7H15_15_W1N(dot)000space(do­t)com

check it out, tells ur ip user agent stuff and some other shit

also at the bottom it does your ip as some weird pic

im gonna add more stuff so you can see all that if i get around to it =]

[ikcti]

Now I know...

[sasuke5088]

Mine only has this output:

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; GTB5)

There's nothing about a "U" or whatnot. What gives?

[SlickKidDownDaBlock]

10th yay

[updown454]

GOOGLE CHROME FTW

[SWside313]

i luv google chrome its one the best

[Ralajer]

So that is how all those sites know what OS I am using. I knew it was something that the browser passed on but I never knew what it was called. Cool.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.0.8) Gecko/2009032609 Firefox/3.0.8

[cadillac8071]

no no o noes they are going to tie up my computer lol

[POSHLOVER12]

nice

[marquesbrownlee]

haha that beginning was great

[xdkez]

Nice.

[superdeat]

6th!!!!lol

[Firerouge]

:))

[dardraa]

5th!!

[thwinecone]

fourth!!!!!!!!!

[Stere0123]

omg 6th view, error occured?

[CompHelp20]

haha

[astrowolfflames]

nice video

[fallenembers08]

:O.