It kills me that Phil is no longer able to drum. Id rather listen to him pounding the skins back in these days rather than the newer stuff anyway but he was surprisingly jazz-capable. When I first heard him on Nursery Cryme he blew me away.
Musicians: Robin Lumley (keyboards), John Goodsall (guitar), Percy Jones (bass), Phil Collins (drums). Composed by John Goodsall, Percy Jones, Robin Lumley & Phil Collins.
From 5:25 to the end, Phil just burns! That's one weird sounding china cymbal he's playing starting at 5:41. It may not even be a china cymbal. Ya gotta love fusion. I'm a huge Weather Report fan. Herbie Hancock's Headhunters, Chick Corea, etc.
@Hekikahni Nah you're getting confused with Bill Fruford's electric-jazz-fusion band "Bruford", that's where Berlin burnt up the bass. Here it's the fretless stylings of one Percy Jones, God love 'im.
@cp0mpa Yeah, I know, but it wasn't Bill Bruford's band that I got the mix up, it is just one of those things, where somehow Brand X and Jeff Berlin got mixed together when I first heard of him. Percy Jones, I love his tone and scale movements. I am not surprised Collins could play like that, if people listen to early Genesis, he is all over the place in seconds, like a photon.
Brilliant band, brilliant song. It is amazing to hear how cohesive this band was. The combination of Percy Jones and Phil Collins in the rhythm section is only as good as John Goodsall and Robin Lumley's on the melody. Not may times does a band come up with pure genius on record. I feel very honoured to have worked with some of them.
@marmas58ink..... i'm not sure where you got the impression that brand x is a US band, but they are definitely british. at the very least, the core of the band i.e. collins, lumley, goodsall, jones is most assuredly UK based and i believe most of their recordings were done over there
I guess the creative center of the jazz-fusion universe was always the U.S, (even if some of its main practitioners were intercontinental transplants) ...or did it ever cross the Atlantic?
The real issue was that from the end-seventies on Big Buisness, what we today call "Mainstream- or Cooperate Media" , took over completely. Just in time to get a glimpse of the capacities to gain almost infinite profit - and so they did.
Heartful intense musical events, actually happenings, became bombastic, became cult. Cold perfection , reflected during the eighties.
Punk was the natural answer to relocate - too late- the original musical intent was already divided.
I'm African American, these guys will be a study to me for the rest of my life. I play drums and i've listen every genre of music possible, but when BrandX Livestock was put in my hands about 20 years ago (except for Hendrix, Bob Marley) my musical concept was elevated i've never had a group of individuals affect me musically like brand x. the drums, guitars, keyboards, percussion, man i don't
As much as I loved this recording when it was released, it still pains me to admit that it's just a knock-off of "Returm To Forever." Damn! It took me years to admit it, but it's true.
@dmvshorebird Then Return-to-Forever was just a knock-off of Mahavishnu as soon as they brought Bill Connors & later Al Di Meola in the band. The truth is all 3 bands created a fusion of jazz & rock but all are highly original in their own right & it's the originality that makes the music last. Actually according to Phil Collins, the biggest influence on all of them, the album that blew all their minds & showed them what was possible was "The Inner Mounting Flame" by Mahavishnu Orchestra.
The Mahavishinu Orchestra was a kick-ass fusion band, from the early 70s, that I purchased a number of vinyls of. "The Inner Mounting Flame", "Birds of Fire" and, the live album, "Between Nothingness and Eternity", are all pretty intense, crazy-metered, music! Ain't no 'dance' music!
I'd like to see Neil Peart play this. It just kills me when people say the word Neil Peart they think amazing drummer. Don't get me wrong, I really like Rush, and I think he has added much to the progressive rock era, but PC got him totally beat hands down.
@TheDrumChannel Recommend any particular prog bandS? I am on the search. Urrently listening to King Crimson(Constantly), camel, zappa, Jethro, camel and a little of gentle giant
@phildog2000 A super-intense band to listen to that almost nobody will have heard of is the Italian prog-rock group Arti & Mestieri. Get their first 2 albums from the 1970s, "Tilt" & "Giro Di Valzer Per Domani ". They also have one of the most intense drummers you will ever hear, a guy by the name of Furio Chirico who is a pal of Bill Bruford & Terry Bozzio. There are some real gems in the Italian prog scene of the 70s. Another one is "Aria" by Alan Sorrenti with Jean-Luc Ponty on Violin.
I was lucky enough to see Jones, Pert, Goodsall, Lumley, and Phil at the Old Waldorf in SF ... Bloody amazing! Pert was riveting, as was Collins, but I could barely take my eyes off Jones: what an ace on the fretless!
@AnguaP I was lucky enough to see the same show. I was sitting stage right so close that i could have reached up and shut off one of phils cymbals. of course i did not, but what a show
@drumjeff1 Thank you for sharing your experience of that great show! I must've been sitting just to the left of you, because I was more on the Phil Zone than the Morris Zone ... Your seat, being so near Phil, must've been a treat for getting the percussive effects from Phil's drums, let alone the view. I miss the Old Waldorf for that kind of intimacy ... Saw Camel and King Crimson there, as well, and thought it was a great venue ... We _were_ lucky to catch that show!
@digitalpigg Actually, Pert came on to the band with Livestock, not Unorthodox Behaviour. Nowhere is he listed in the credits of the latter. Not to take anything away from Morris' contributions in future albums, but the percussion you hear here is all Phil.
CLassic fusion from the mid seventies. I really like the drumming on this one. If you like this you should look up Marscape or Peter and the wolf with Phil Collins.
Saw these guys in 1978 at age 15 (opening for Genesis) and became a lifelong fan. This album completely rocks. RIP Morris Pert -- poor bloke died a few months ago. Saw him play also with Mike Oldfield.
Damn, that's tight! (that's what she said). Had UNORTHODOX BEHAVIOR back in 80. Need to see if I can find it again on c.d. Mr. Collins looked like he was a drum hermit, locked away all day down in the drum dungeon just playin' drums...he-he
@seb2112 - You probably already know them but if not try Weather Report, especially the album Heavy Weather which features Jaco Pastorius, or how about the album romantic Warrior from the band Return to Forever (Chick Chorea, Stanley Clarke, Lenny White & Al Di Meola).
@seb2112 You probably already know them but if not try Weather Report, especially the album Heavy Weather which features Jaco Pastorius, or how about the album romantic Warrior from the band Return to Forever (Chick Chorea, Stanley Clarke, Lenny White & Al Di Meola).
I saw these guys four times at the Roxy in Hollywood, Ca. Phil Collins founded this band but I he only played live with them once at those shows. I love this band, Percy Jones is by far of the greatest bassist of his generation and Morris Pert is incredible. Hell the whole damn band just ripped it up. Its a shame more people don't know about this band.
@cp0mpa ...send Pert all the love you can. Poor bloke died a few months ago. Meanwhile Collins is permanently injured from his wild drumming career and can't play anymore.
Brand X fan since I saw them with Genesis in 1978.
@cp0mpa I think the whole band is just one great, cohesive unit. I know what you mean though, it's not just Phil Collins and nobody else in the band. I just love the hell out of Goodsall's guitar playing here.
This is probably Phil Collins musical prime as a drummer (Unorthodox behaviour), well anyways for me. Of course with Genesis he was also great but really let his talents as a drummer dissapear after the Duke album
Go Phil Go!!!! Now this is the Phil Collins i know and admire a great deal!!! Phil is a drummer first and singer second. I wish he stuck with playing like this in the 80's.
It's so funny to see the reaction on peoples faces after they ask me who my favorite drummers are and Phil comes up as one of my top three. Most people these days are completely in the dark in regards to this idea that Phil is one of the most accomplished of drummers of the last 40 years. I suppose it's a combination of Phil's decision to follow a pop career, and the public's decision to do the same. I can't blame Phil's desire for financial success, but the public should be more aware of music.
Sorry, but those two, and probably everyone else, should take a bow to Roy Haynes, still playing at 85, who's drummed with the best, in most every idiom. And by the best, I mean folks like Charlie Parker and John Coltrane. I was about to say that no one alive has his track record, but it is cold, hard fact that nobody living OR dead has his history.
I greatly admire the breadth of Collins' oeuvre, but perhaps rightfully, Colaiuta, Gadd and Weckl each have been more heavily recorded for their particular skills. On Collins' singing: by his own admission, he was simply not the prog-styled vocalist that departing Genesis colleague Peter Gabriel was, and as ever, the lead singer -- and a massively successful one Collins was -- defines the creative range of a working band ...And would that the average customer were critically more demanding.
There are too many songs around if you want to play along to sections alternately in 11/8 and 7/8. The last odd meter Collins attempted (in a new piece) was Droned in 1981, which was in 5/4. Since then the best you could hope for was something in 3/4.
this song is actually the only one i really like with brand x. i'm not saying the other songs are bad, just not as impressive as this. actually i like mahavishnu more. they are gods!
diamond dust, you must be smoking dust caus I was commenting on his big sellout after Genesis in the 80's (remember Su Su Sudeo, complete musical garbage), his recent health problems had zero to do w/ his lapse in artistic integrity. But I am praying for him .
nycbassist76 you are dead on. brand x is new to me im sad to say! but i've always admired phil. so so many people cry that he's not some technical wizard... hello? are you hearing this?it will take me perhaps all my life before i even aproach this ability.
Bang on - he's a complete natural. Been a huge fan of his drumming for 35yrs+. Inspired me (& many thousands of others no doubt) to take up the art, but won't ever come near to his level of skill, abilty & instinctive FEEL. Let's hope he gets back to full mobility soon. All the best very Phil and many thanks for all your drumming achievements. Pure class.
I just discovered this band on Friday. I'm suprised I've never knew about it because I'm a big fan of Genesis as well as Phil's solo work. I've been listening to Phil and Genesis my whole life and I'm glad I found this. This is gold!!!!
@RealityBasher87 Phil drummed with BRAND X as support to GENESIS at the knebworth Festival 1978, i was there, and witnessed Phil arrive in a helicopter for the 11am Slot on stage.
Never knew Brand X existed until today. I agree with you on Collins assessment. I really don't understand such wild shift from playing good music into playing horrible garbage...Love of money, perhaps?
micanut48 perhaps if you understand that Phil can't play drums anymore because of serious spinal issues, you'd understand what you were talking about. Phil can't even hold the drum sticks anymore, or feel his fingers tips, that is how serious it is.
I had no idea...sorry. Having to go through some very serious spinal problem myself that caused incredible debilitating pain and even temporary paralysis, I get it. But did he have this problem back in eighties, too? He was making garbage already then. Just a question. Don't know much about him because Genesis, although I admired them, were never my favorite band. So can you let me know more?
micanut48 yes I wasn't a fan of his schmaltzy crap that he was putting out for years. Phil has put out abscure music for a good 30 years of his life, and I think he may have gotten tired of being weird and obscure, so I think he went really commercial because he was tired of being broke, tired of trying to be obscure and abstract, so it may have been a real challenge to him to write on a commercial level.
micanut48 Phil has to have surgery to repair dislocated vertebra, and he has no feelings in his fingers anymore, and isn't able to pick up his sticks without being in pain. He is very down about it.
According to Chester Thompson at a recent drum clinic in Canada, the problem with Phil may have happened as a result of his posture while playing during the last recent tour in 2007. FYI , you can check it out on utube.
malosolido perhaps if you understand that Phil can't play drums anymore because of serious spinal issues, you'd understand what you were talking about. Phil can't even hold the drum sticks anymore, or feel his fingers tips, that is how serious it is.
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000fradudlin000 1 day ago
man THIS IS EPIC!
wreyoG 1 month ago
One of their masterpiece wowww great guyzzzz! Still unrivaled this time !
fusioncd57 2 months ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Brand X
Exploration of sound, creativity and expression, sometimes flat out...
Ggaaiill2 3 months ago
It kills me that Phil is no longer able to drum. Id rather listen to him pounding the skins back in these days rather than the newer stuff anyway but he was surprisingly jazz-capable. When I first heard him on Nursery Cryme he blew me away.
Nikkodemis 3 months ago
BRAND X: NUCLEAR BURN
TRACK
Nuclear Burn
GROUP
Brand X
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Unorthodox Behaviour (Astralwerks-Caroline)
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Musicians: Robin Lumley (keyboards), John Goodsall (guitar), Percy Jones (bass), Phil Collins (drums). Composed by John Goodsall, Percy Jones, Robin Lumley & Phil Collins.
Recorded: London, September 1975
crallagham 4 months ago
Great bass drum sound, Collins is a classy drummer.
canturgan 6 months ago
Phil Collins - amazing drummer! It is unfortunate that he went in the direction of pop music..
I prefer his playing on drums when he was in the Brand X...
marcinnsz 6 months ago
@marcinnsz I'm sure Collins regretted as well it when he bought his second or third countryside estate.
Actually I thought it was Bill Buford when I heard this. I never disliked Collins but I had no idea he could beat like that.
000fradudlin000 1 day ago
From 5:25 to the end, Phil just burns! That's one weird sounding china cymbal he's playing starting at 5:41. It may not even be a china cymbal. Ya gotta love fusion. I'm a huge Weather Report fan. Herbie Hancock's Headhunters, Chick Corea, etc.
drewper73 7 months ago
@drewper73 It's a small Wuhan China. Super tight and fast.
zzbbaahhgg 6 months ago
@zzbbaahhgg Thanks for the info. Tight and fast indeed.
drewper73 6 months ago
Why did I think Jeff Berlin was in brand X?
I totally thought he was the only bass player in brand x
Hekikahni 7 months ago
@Hekikahni Nah you're getting confused with Bill Fruford's electric-jazz-fusion band "Bruford", that's where Berlin burnt up the bass. Here it's the fretless stylings of one Percy Jones, God love 'im.
cp0mpa 7 months ago
@cp0mpa Yeah, I know, but it wasn't Bill Bruford's band that I got the mix up, it is just one of those things, where somehow Brand X and Jeff Berlin got mixed together when I first heard of him. Percy Jones, I love his tone and scale movements. I am not surprised Collins could play like that, if people listen to early Genesis, he is all over the place in seconds, like a photon.
Hekikahni 7 months ago
very cool jamming
earthless1990 7 months ago
Is there a better Collins in the make or if he exists can he then already stand up?
kjallesoft 7 months ago
авесом
loginzaga 7 months ago
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Blown away.. all kick ass musicians
Zoxxic 9 months ago
These guys were just awesome. I understand that when they recorded together only 30% of the songs were written and the other 70% was ad-libbed.
jimascia 10 months ago
One of the tightest jazz rock fusion bands ever to be sure ! Great tune !
videocanone 10 months ago
great song in all the instruments
bytoromatic 10 months ago
ii
bytoromatic 10 months ago
Am i the only one who didnt find this band through fuckin genesis or phil collins?
IDontUsePicks 11 months ago
@IDontUsePicks
Yes
waveoflight 8 months ago
Brilliant band, brilliant song. It is amazing to hear how cohesive this band was. The combination of Percy Jones and Phil Collins in the rhythm section is only as good as John Goodsall and Robin Lumley's on the melody. Not may times does a band come up with pure genius on record. I feel very honoured to have worked with some of them.
leonalvarado 11 months ago
@marmas58ink..... i'm not sure where you got the impression that brand x is a US band, but they are definitely british. at the very least, the core of the band i.e. collins, lumley, goodsall, jones is most assuredly UK based and i believe most of their recordings were done over there
incognitoboy 1 year ago
@incognitoboy you are correct!
PeterMayer 8 months ago
I guess the creative center of the jazz-fusion universe was always the U.S, (even if some of its main practitioners were intercontinental transplants) ...or did it ever cross the Atlantic?
marmas58ink 1 year ago
The real issue was that from the end-seventies on Big Buisness, what we today call "Mainstream- or Cooperate Media" , took over completely. Just in time to get a glimpse of the capacities to gain almost infinite profit - and so they did.
Heartful intense musical events, actually happenings, became bombastic, became cult. Cold perfection , reflected during the eighties.
Punk was the natural answer to relocate - too late- the original musical intent was already divided.
Thanks for uploading
redsan5 1 year ago
I'm African American, these guys will be a study to me for the rest of my life. I play drums and i've listen every genre of music possible, but when BrandX Livestock was put in my hands about 20 years ago (except for Hendrix, Bob Marley) my musical concept was elevated i've never had a group of individuals affect me musically like brand x. the drums, guitars, keyboards, percussion, man i don't
know what else to say............... rock on
YOUHONGYU 1 year ago 3
@YOUHONGYU really important to know that you're african american man
laurensDG 1 month ago in playlist muziek
It's now hard to remember that Phil was a real good drummer now a days. The band line-up was pretty spectacular as well.
XZF666 1 year ago
As much as I loved this recording when it was released, it still pains me to admit that it's just a knock-off of "Returm To Forever." Damn! It took me years to admit it, but it's true.
dmvshorebird 1 year ago
@dmvshorebird Then Return-to-Forever was just a knock-off of Mahavishnu as soon as they brought Bill Connors & later Al Di Meola in the band. The truth is all 3 bands created a fusion of jazz & rock but all are highly original in their own right & it's the originality that makes the music last. Actually according to Phil Collins, the biggest influence on all of them, the album that blew all their minds & showed them what was possible was "The Inner Mounting Flame" by Mahavishnu Orchestra.
metamorphosis67 1 year ago
Thanx for the insight. Brand x rules!!!!
digitalpigg 1 year ago
In my opinion - Phil Collins played the best with this band..
Big respect for the excellent drummer!
P.s. My favorite album - "Unorthodox Behaviour".
marcinnsz 1 year ago
Great Job to Alll of those musicians ! (Phil of course is a master... of sticks ...!)
mario94parrain 1 year ago
This is classic fuuuuuuuuuuuussssssssion..!
RIP Morris Pert... You always put on such intense live shows....@^@
mrprogjazzgto 1 year ago
The Mahavishinu Orchestra was a kick-ass fusion band, from the early 70s, that I purchased a number of vinyls of. "The Inner Mounting Flame", "Birds of Fire" and, the live album, "Between Nothingness and Eternity", are all pretty intense, crazy-metered, music! Ain't no 'dance' music!
vastvacuum 1 year ago
I love this tune. I wish Phil Collins would make a jazz fusion album every now and then.
fastballonly 1 year ago
I'd like to see Neil Peart play this. It just kills me when people say the word Neil Peart they think amazing drummer. Don't get me wrong, I really like Rush, and I think he has added much to the progressive rock era, but PC got him totally beat hands down.
TheDrumChannel 1 year ago
@TheDrumChannel Recommend any particular prog bandS? I am on the search. Urrently listening to King Crimson(Constantly), camel, zappa, Jethro, camel and a little of gentle giant
phildog2000 1 year ago
@phildog2000 A super-intense band to listen to that almost nobody will have heard of is the Italian prog-rock group Arti & Mestieri. Get their first 2 albums from the 1970s, "Tilt" & "Giro Di Valzer Per Domani ". They also have one of the most intense drummers you will ever hear, a guy by the name of Furio Chirico who is a pal of Bill Bruford & Terry Bozzio. There are some real gems in the Italian prog scene of the 70s. Another one is "Aria" by Alan Sorrenti with Jean-Luc Ponty on Violin.
metamorphosis67 1 year ago
This album sure is in my top-5
Jones is a fantastic unique bassplayer.
didiklomberg 1 year ago
IMHO John Goodsall is one of the best players ever
JohnPatatino 1 year ago
I was lucky enough to see Jones, Pert, Goodsall, Lumley, and Phil at the Old Waldorf in SF ... Bloody amazing! Pert was riveting, as was Collins, but I could barely take my eyes off Jones: what an ace on the fretless!
AnguaP 1 year ago 2
@AnguaP I was lucky enough to see the same show. I was sitting stage right so close that i could have reached up and shut off one of phils cymbals. of course i did not, but what a show
drumjeff1 1 year ago
@drumjeff1 Thank you for sharing your experience of that great show! I must've been sitting just to the left of you, because I was more on the Phil Zone than the Morris Zone ... Your seat, being so near Phil, must've been a treat for getting the percussive effects from Phil's drums, let alone the view. I miss the Old Waldorf for that kind of intimacy ... Saw Camel and King Crimson there, as well, and thought it was a great venue ... We _were_ lucky to catch that show!
AnguaP 1 year ago
Phil Collins is quite excellent but it is Morris that lays down the accents and poly
rhythms.
digitalpigg 1 year ago 2
@digitalpigg RIP the wonderful Morris, who passed on 27 April 2010 ... He was amazing to watch!
AnguaP 1 year ago 2
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ssri 1 year ago
@digitalpigg Actually, Pert came on to the band with Livestock, not Unorthodox Behaviour. Nowhere is he listed in the credits of the latter. Not to take anything away from Morris' contributions in future albums, but the percussion you hear here is all Phil.
ssri 1 year ago
Phil se lâche lousse !
Homme44a 1 year ago
Simply AWESOME.......YOU WONT FIND ANY MIXERS OR DJ BOOTHS ON THIS TRACK.
mowwam 1 year ago
This is was the last era of creation in music.Its mostly shit now.Thanx guys,Dregs ELP,Kansas.Chick Corea E.T.C....................
hypermolicule 1 year ago
CLassic fusion from the mid seventies. I really like the drumming on this one. If you like this you should look up Marscape or Peter and the wolf with Phil Collins.
sc00terful 1 year ago
Saw these guys in 1978 at age 15 (opening for Genesis) and became a lifelong fan. This album completely rocks. RIP Morris Pert -- poor bloke died a few months ago. Saw him play also with Mike Oldfield.
yzerkeon 1 year ago
man I can't beleive this was created at the end of the 70's it's so precursory
vbierry 1 year ago
Damn, that's tight! (that's what she said). Had UNORTHODOX BEHAVIOR back in 80. Need to see if I can find it again on c.d. Mr. Collins looked like he was a drum hermit, locked away all day down in the drum dungeon just playin' drums...he-he
flipwiggins 1 year ago
I love this album, can anyone recommand any opther fusion albums similar to this one?
seb2112 1 year ago
@seb2112 - You probably already know them but if not try Weather Report, especially the album Heavy Weather which features Jaco Pastorius, or how about the album romantic Warrior from the band Return to Forever (Chick Chorea, Stanley Clarke, Lenny White & Al Di Meola).
zebeers 1 year ago
@seb2112 You probably already know them but if not try Weather Report, especially the album Heavy Weather which features Jaco Pastorius, or how about the album romantic Warrior from the band Return to Forever (Chick Chorea, Stanley Clarke, Lenny White & Al Di Meola).
zebeers 1 year ago
I saw these guys four times at the Roxy in Hollywood, Ca. Phil Collins founded this band but I he only played live with them once at those shows. I love this band, Percy Jones is by far of the greatest bassist of his generation and Morris Pert is incredible. Hell the whole damn band just ripped it up. Its a shame more people don't know about this band.
swaggs 1 year ago
yeah yeah Phil's great and all, but no comments on the rest of the band? Goodsall, Jones, Pert? Don't they get any love?
cp0mpa 1 year ago 16
@cp0mpa ...send Pert all the love you can. Poor bloke died a few months ago. Meanwhile Collins is permanently injured from his wild drumming career and can't play anymore.
Brand X fan since I saw them with Genesis in 1978.
yzerkeon 1 year ago
@cp0mpa I think the whole band is just one great, cohesive unit. I know what you mean though, it's not just Phil Collins and nobody else in the band. I just love the hell out of Goodsall's guitar playing here.
Yarsh52 1 year ago
@cp0mpa Goodsall and Jones do
hireclaw22 1 year ago
@cp0mpa percy jones is god
ucutumia 1 year ago
@cp0mpa Have you checked out Fire Merchants?
thefeepy 8 months ago
@cp0mpa percy!
danpage79 7 months ago
This was a great band. Enjoy it.. do not compare it.. why would any want to?
Phil is a great musician.. Drummer, Singer, Songwriter, Composer. - Great.
What do you do?
willy44 1 year ago
Great music with Phil at its best !
He's really one of the greatest drummers !
mulotwo 1 year ago
Maybe if Phil had stayed behind the drums he wouldn't have gotten so rich and famous and then divorced three times:
according to a Daily Telegraph tally, Collins's divorces have cost him $84 million nearly a third of his estimated $280 fortune.
svenghoulieil 1 year ago
This is probably Phil Collins musical prime as a drummer (Unorthodox behaviour), well anyways for me. Of course with Genesis he was also great but really let his talents as a drummer dissapear after the Duke album
Svudin 1 year ago
this is great!!
i'm ao into it!<3
moonnsunshine 1 year ago
Go Phil Go!!!! Now this is the Phil Collins i know and admire a great deal!!! Phil is a drummer first and singer second. I wish he stuck with playing like this in the 80's.
bassmanjoe 1 year ago
PHIL SEI IL MEGLIO!!!!!!!!!
Ripplessa 1 year ago
It's so funny to see the reaction on peoples faces after they ask me who my favorite drummers are and Phil comes up as one of my top three. Most people these days are completely in the dark in regards to this idea that Phil is one of the most accomplished of drummers of the last 40 years. I suppose it's a combination of Phil's decision to follow a pop career, and the public's decision to do the same. I can't blame Phil's desire for financial success, but the public should be more aware of music.
glynnt54 1 year ago 3
Billy cobham. sorry but he beats phil.
JumboDavid 1 year ago
Sorry, but those two, and probably everyone else, should take a bow to Roy Haynes, still playing at 85, who's drummed with the best, in most every idiom. And by the best, I mean folks like Charlie Parker and John Coltrane. I was about to say that no one alive has his track record, but it is cold, hard fact that nobody living OR dead has his history.
tanner9862 1 year ago
I greatly admire the breadth of Collins' oeuvre, but perhaps rightfully, Colaiuta, Gadd and Weckl each have been more heavily recorded for their particular skills. On Collins' singing: by his own admission, he was simply not the prog-styled vocalist that departing Genesis colleague Peter Gabriel was, and as ever, the lead singer -- and a massively successful one Collins was -- defines the creative range of a working band ...And would that the average customer were critically more demanding.
tanner9862 1 year ago
Great upload. Great band, great musical rapport. Great percussion work by Phil Collins.
batsoup 1 year ago 4
There are too many songs around if you want to play along to sections alternately in 11/8 and 7/8. The last odd meter Collins attempted (in a new piece) was Droned in 1981, which was in 5/4. Since then the best you could hope for was something in 3/4.
jamescastelli 2 years ago
These guys played some awesome live shows that I was lucky to attend...!
It was a treat to see drummers/percussionists Morris Pert and Phil Collins on the same stage with the rest of these superb musicians.
Phil Collins even sat in with King Crimson a few times and Brian Eno.!
mrprogjazzgto 2 years ago
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1920bilitt 2 years ago 3
secret hobby wanker!
uburei 1 year ago
@uburei Stupid idiot!
1920bilitt 1 year ago
I am totally blown away by Mr. Collins drumming here!!! Can't get over that i just found this.
pgibas 2 years ago 20
this song is actually the only one i really like with brand x. i'm not saying the other songs are bad, just not as impressive as this. actually i like mahavishnu more. they are gods!
JumboDavid 1 year ago
Perhaps before you cut Phil down you could consider that he composed the songs you don't like, played keys, drums and sang them
which I admire greatly and if you don't think "In The Air Tonight" is a groundbreaking drum song, stick it
mobiledrummer 2 years ago 3
diamond dust, you must be smoking dust caus I was commenting on his big sellout after Genesis in the 80's (remember Su Su Sudeo, complete musical garbage), his recent health problems had zero to do w/ his lapse in artistic integrity. But I am praying for him .
malosolido 2 years ago 2
such a subtle groove. Love it.
Heffsta02 2 years ago
Brilliant
deldine70 2 years ago
PERCY JONES
alexdelarge66 2 years ago 2
listen to this!!!! ....its fucking amazing!
OrganicTrichome 2 years ago 2
nycbassist76 you are dead on. brand x is new to me im sad to say! but i've always admired phil. so so many people cry that he's not some technical wizard... hello? are you hearing this?it will take me perhaps all my life before i even aproach this ability.
NNICKKK 2 years ago
Bang on - he's a complete natural. Been a huge fan of his drumming for 35yrs+. Inspired me (& many thousands of others no doubt) to take up the art, but won't ever come near to his level of skill, abilty & instinctive FEEL. Let's hope he gets back to full mobility soon. All the best very Phil and many thanks for all your drumming achievements. Pure class.
nuthoose 2 years ago
I just discovered this band on Friday. I'm suprised I've never knew about it because I'm a big fan of Genesis as well as Phil's solo work. I've been listening to Phil and Genesis my whole life and I'm glad I found this. This is gold!!!!
RealityBasher87 2 years ago 6
@RealityBasher87 Phil drummed with BRAND X as support to GENESIS at the knebworth Festival 1978, i was there, and witnessed Phil arrive in a helicopter for the 11am Slot on stage.
tonlitt 1 year ago
it's sad that so many people have no idea what a great drummer phil collins was
nycbassist76 2 years ago 4
what happened to all of the great tunes
man this was great music
1yaeger 2 years ago
Phill before "The Sell-out" of all sell-outs, I wonder if he still remembers in his old age what talent really sounded like.
malosolido 2 years ago 2
Never knew Brand X existed until today. I agree with you on Collins assessment. I really don't understand such wild shift from playing good music into playing horrible garbage...Love of money, perhaps?
micanut48 2 years ago
micanut48 perhaps if you understand that Phil can't play drums anymore because of serious spinal issues, you'd understand what you were talking about. Phil can't even hold the drum sticks anymore, or feel his fingers tips, that is how serious it is.
diamonddust22 2 years ago
I had no idea...sorry. Having to go through some very serious spinal problem myself that caused incredible debilitating pain and even temporary paralysis, I get it. But did he have this problem back in eighties, too? He was making garbage already then. Just a question. Don't know much about him because Genesis, although I admired them, were never my favorite band. So can you let me know more?
micanut48 2 years ago
micanut48 yes I wasn't a fan of his schmaltzy crap that he was putting out for years. Phil has put out abscure music for a good 30 years of his life, and I think he may have gotten tired of being weird and obscure, so I think he went really commercial because he was tired of being broke, tired of trying to be obscure and abstract, so it may have been a real challenge to him to write on a commercial level.
diamonddust22 2 years ago
micanut48 Phil has to have surgery to repair dislocated vertebra, and he has no feelings in his fingers anymore, and isn't able to pick up his sticks without being in pain. He is very down about it.
diamonddust22 2 years ago
According to Chester Thompson at a recent drum clinic in Canada, the problem with Phil may have happened as a result of his posture while playing during the last recent tour in 2007. FYI , you can check it out on utube.
tamacalla 2 years ago
@tamacalla @diamonddust22 I appreciate the info. Thanks
micanut48 2 years ago
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malosolido perhaps if you understand that Phil can't play drums anymore because of serious spinal issues, you'd understand what you were talking about. Phil can't even hold the drum sticks anymore, or feel his fingers tips, that is how serious it is.
diamonddust22 2 years ago
Phil on fire
koenenbw 2 years ago 2
phil is universal
ucutumia 2 years ago 2
Drums yes
Inane treacle post 77 yes
teddingtontcu 2 years ago
dun dun dudun dudun dahdunduhdundun!!!!!
4578a 2 years ago
Musical pioneers let us know how it should be done.
worldstudios 2 years ago
my dad introduced me to this band when I was about 12 - im no 18 and still havn't heard a better band
peachy901 2 years ago
percy fucking jones!
phil is okay toooo... :?)
p0werlunch 2 years ago
Phil fucking Goodsall too!
confusticated 2 years ago
Da fogo!
omarburatti 2 years ago
osar2009 full agree man!
eforedu 2 years ago
My goodness the memories... I had forgotten how much they burned... Jones and Collins are marvels, thanks so much for this!
corkykab 2 years ago
Increible como van juntos bajo y bateria... que temaaaa por dios!!!! Alucinante!! Percy Jones un gigante.
Saludos.
manthisprog 2 years ago
Y algunos descerebrados escuchan cumbia villera, como va a avanzar este país!!!!
(mensaje para argentinos).
osar2009 2 years ago
exacto pinche pais de reggaeton, y banda como va a cambiar? no es como si a todos los pinches fresitas de aqui les vaya gustar la fusion.
alexdelarge66 2 years ago
Wonderful!
Oxpost 3 years ago 2