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  • your subs is clipping so badly.

  • sub is gonna blow up :S

  • thats bad for your subwoofer!!!

  • For everyone who's asking, the song is UBM Subwoofer test by Underground Bass Masters :) thumbs up so that people can see! nice system btw :D

  • was für ein song

  • @Jonas72462 Underground Bass Masters - Subwoofer Test

  • @MotardJunkie Danke ist ein cooles Lied

  • u can hear it bottoming out!!!

  • my sub never looks like its shaking that bad! isnt that reli bad for it??? 

  • @thehenchdude as long as you dont go over your subs limits.

  • that amp is clipping bad,,,,,,

  • put a screw driver through that speaker will you

  • put a screw drive through that speaker will you

  • What's the name of the song?

  • I wanted 12W7s cuz my bro has 2 of em on two JL1000/1s, but after hearing this sub in my uncle's car, I'm went with the Q instead. Not only cuz it was cheaper, but cuz the 12W7 has that funny 3ohm impedance that kind of forces you to buy the 1000/1 for it and I wanted to use Rockford amps(im an RF man). I gotta say, my bro's setup is nice, but these things put my brother's gear to shame. I'm running T1000-1bds on each and it sounds tighter and hits harder and deeper than my brothers stuff.

  • so a sealed box is more acurate and has more clarity ....is that so with all sealed boxes or can you get a ported box with clarity ??

  • @ihaveaverybadcold you can get a ported box that has clarity but you really really have to know what your doing.

  • Thanks mooseknucks

    I actually decided to go with the 15" Q. I'll be building a sealed box for it and maybe put a video of some test runs up soon after.

  • nice i got 2 fi btl but im looking to buy 5 Q 12s. i got tired of spl with the btl

  • @954cityofdahood out of interest is there any reason why you dont get like 2 x 8's or 3 15's etc would be cheaper

  • @954cityofdahood why dont you get 3 15's or 2 18's etc, save money?

  • @iloveaxxo i meant 4 fi Qs and because there in a trunk honda accord so fittin 2 18 in is out. 4 12s will beat 3 15. i'm getting 700 off my btl so just need 300 more and i got them

  • i am contemplating getting this same sub, but i cant decide between a sealed or ported box. has anyone heard both or have any logical input? thanks

  • @iDrooBy ported

  • that sound like some real hollow bass. kinda even sounds blown.. you might wanna try a new amp

  • @r3dhaz32

    Nah, it is the camera mic distorting, this sounds like bass in real life! :D

  • @ExpertOfSound then why do i still the rest of of the song OVER the bass? i think i think something is funky. i have had well over 7 complete systems.

  • the q's have better sq than the bl's but they all get deep and loud

  • damn that sounds lousy... its not the camera either, all I can hear is cone noise

  • @CoupeDeville23 cone noise? lol!! what do you think your supposed to hear, the cone is supposed to make noise. thats how speakers reproduce sound. another fag that knows nothing about audio

  • @blazinloud the cone moves air to create 'noise' but a good sub produces smooth notes without reminding you that theres a moving cone (just like any loudspeaker)... listen to a JL sub and all you hear is the notes as they were intended.... you don't hear the sound of a cheap cone every time it moves...

  • @CoupeDeville23

    And it can also depend on your box material, port size, and the cone movement linearity and stiffness. When a cone moves, it will almost always wobble a little bit (almost invisible to your eyes, even in slow motion) because air will never be 100% "flat" against the whole surface of the cone... the LMS ultra 18 has a cone made of aircraft grade aluminum, which is as light as cardboard but as strong as steel.

    :) you may have known that stuff already, but just saying for others.

  • @CoupeDeville23

    NO sub exists that has ZERO cone "noise" when it is operating. Noise means "unwanted" sound! The reason it sounds like that is because the mic on the camera is picking up high volume low frequency sound that it cannot properly record. Few cameras can do so. Unless you're a proffesional with multi-thousand dollar microphones, you will probably never own one that can. The JL subwoofers suffer the same effect in real life, AND in Youtube videos. You sir, are simply a JL nuthugger.

  • @bigocampo Yes, 'noise' is unwanted sound. You shouldn't hear the sound of the cone, but rather the sound created by a given frequency response. And yes, I am a JL nuthugger, because I don't want unwanted noise or any sloppiness in my music. Fi is for straight SPL, and there is so much of a sacrifice in SQ, that they sound like garbage.

  • @CoupeDeville23

    That statement alone is as biased as they have ever come dude. Your JL has no more and no less SQ than any Fi-Q. No Fi sub is the pinnacle of the Sq in car audio, but neither is any JL. If your statements were true to their meaning, you would not even be running JL. There are brands far superior to it. I should know, I used to run a single 12w7 on a JL-MHD750/1 and yes, I HAVE heard better. I guarantee you the FiQ is as good or better than any W7, provided its setup right.

  • @bigocampo Fi has a heavy cone, is therefore less sensitive and responsive and no innovation goes into their design... they are made for one purpose, loud bass with a high RMS power handling... give a JL much less power, and with the lighter cone, and elevated frame cooling, you'll get a more even response, at lower volume, running more efficient with more heat dissapated, with still plenty of SPL.. thats my take

  • @CoupeDeville23

    Straight from JL's site: The use of these exotic materials is typically accompanied by marketing claims that the material chosen has exceptional stiffness-to-mass characteristics. These are true statements, but can be misleading. While these materials have excellent stiffness-to-mass properties (compared to paper or poly), they are not lighter than paper or poly in practice.

    Tell me again that the paper cone Fi subs use is heavy... Please, do it and lie again.

  • @CoupeDeville23

    If an Fi Q has a high RMS rating is because they're doing the same thing JL did with the 13W7. Big power, with big SQ. If you have a HO-SQ sub, its more likely to behave the way you want it if you have (A) a large motor assembly with large magnetic flux capabilities to control extreme mechanical force effectively (B) A very linear, high excursion, large diameter, high temp coil (C) A light/strong cone. Qs have that. Heat efficient? Damn right = Big Power, less distortion.

  • @bigocampo One guy just told me on this page that they are made of aluminum, and you say poly cone, which is it... just watch the above video and tell me again that it offers good SQ... subs with good SQ really shine in sealed enclosures, and this sub to me sounds horribly innaccurate and distorts rather quickly..... amp may be inproperly tuned though. thanks for posting the JL page, as it reinforces exactly what I said...

  • @CoupeDeville23

    Someone lied to you. I didn't say they use poly, they use PAPER. Paper cones are one of the most widely used in the entire industry. Why? Because when it is formed, it is lightweight AND strong. They both use foam surrounds too. Anyway, YOU CANNOT JUDGE A SUB FOR THE WAY IT SOUNDS ON VIDEO! I just saw YOUR video on your W7 in the HO box and your sub makes the same type of noises too. The only way you will know what a Q can really do, is if you actually hear one IN PERSON.

  • @bigocampo Fair enough... I don't judge a sub until I hear one in person, with various types of music being played.. however, there's a difference between camera mic distortion and poor sound reproduction.. yes, the camera mic will distort no doubt, but even on my videos you don't hear the obvious distortion thats present in this video.. watch it again, and dont mention it and JL in the same sentence

  • @CoupeDeville23

    Dude, just try and hear one in person, THEN tell me what you think. Once i've heard your REAL world experiece with it was still bad, then I'll leave you alone, hahaha. I've had my experience with the 12" and 13.5" versions of the W7 and I liked it, but I wasn't until I heard a single Q12 that I was impressed, not by how loud it was, but by how clean and fast it sounded and how little Fi's price was for it. One thing, just wait for the Fi-N1 to show it's SQ face.

  • @bigocampo Again, I agree... I read all this hype about JL, but didnt' believe it until I purchased one... I haven't heard any Fi in person, and its not fair to judge on youtube, even though I think the JL videos are free of the cone noise I'm hearing on this vid.. either way, once I hear one in person, then I'll decide... I am constantly researching car audio, and what materials are used by certain companies, and I just don't see anyone using innovation like JL does...

  • @CoupeDeville23

    I guarantee you that your view would change if you actually did hear one in person. Just like JL had their engineers come up with the "W" cone and the other 6 patents on the W7, Fi had its engineers come up with a few tricks of its own: The N1, N2, N3, N-SG motor assemblies. You think JL's cone was innovation? Wait till you see what Fi is bringing to the table. I'm not an Fi fanboy, but I will defend a product that I have come to appreciate for it's services and value.

  • @CoupeDeville23

    Oh, and I'm not one of those "Fi costs waaaaay less" people. If the sub is better, regardless of price, it's just better or as I said, just as good.

  • Nice! What's that song.

  • how is it sealed? i'm thinking about getting one sealed.

  • @WhatsCS because no air can escape from it

  • @1500Tb He's asking "how does the sub sound in a sealed box?".

  • want to sell that sub? if it has bp power?

  • fi is the shit man great video

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  • how many cubes is that box? that seems like a nice sound man. cant hear it but i give you props. i have two type rs(brand new) that im gonna hook up to a MTX JH1200...1200 rms. then after that i was thinkin about getting one of these. It'd have to have good sq though, not just bass. thats what the Fi Q's are for, right?

  • knocking hard man what is the name of the song tho please tell

  • nice wats the song

  • I thought if your box is to small it bottoms out more maybe thats just for vented not sealed?? not sure just saying.

  • stuff the box wth some cotton make sure its completly sealed .

  • bottoming out at 0:06 ??? hmm

  • no just the note, the bottoming out would be way more obvious. just really shitty camera.....

  • what does it mean if it bottoms out?? to small of a box??

  • when it bottoms out it basically means its distorting because the gain on the amp is turned to high. (i think)

  • oh really? damn i didnt know that.. thought it was because of my box.. thanks bro its only bottoming out on low low notes though.. like for put on by jeezy

  • does it make like a slapping sound kinda? yeah fix it while you can. its not to good for your subs. im no pro or anything but they always say the gain nob is not a volume nob. just turn it lower until you hear the distortion go away

  • like a farting slapping sound lol. it doesnt distort. its only on low notes and has good sound quality.. oh well. ill see thanks bro

  • no, botoming out is to much power to the sub and then the voice coil hits the bottom of the magnet

  • im sorry i thought bottoming out and clipping was the same thing..

  • no but you dont want either of them

  • @7356205 They are two very different things. There is different kinds of clips as well. Like one is tensile leads "clipping" the cone making a very annoying noise

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  • ubm bass test

  • Since so many of you guys keep on asking for the track, I'll upload it tu my website and you can always download it from there :) (I dunno the title of that song since i only rip it from CD audio and lost the song track title)

  • name of song plz 5* faved

  • That woofer aint made for a sealed Box, thats why the sound sounds like shit on it.

  • @skaterking15 Fi Q's are made for sealed box's go to the sight, like the btls, their made for ported

  • @skaterking15 This sub should be a a ported box for sure but the "shitty noise" is the camera distorting the whole time in the video. If he was to have a better camera it would sound much better. Check out my videos.

  • at 0:06 GOD THATS SUM EXCURSION RIGHT THERE!

  • u don't need a bigger box but your box sounds like it has some air leaks just go along all the inside seams with liquid nails and it should fix the leaking if their is any and i was high when i wrought that last comment.

  • I only say that because I bought an HCCA15" a few months back, broke it in, put a RF T30001bd on it and didnt like what I was hearing. Kind of loud, but not too efficient so wasn't all that satisfied. Sounds good, but not great. Just an opinion, not a mindless shit spit.

  • Fuck an hcca. Very blunt, but thats how I feel, lol. Just grab a btl, tune the box low as fuck, and add around 2500-3500w rms and enjoy.

  • WOW!!!! I cant believe i read all these comments I chuckled a few times. Three things> One the box IS LEAKING!(JUST A SMALL ONE BUT IT MATTERS). Two I was looking into these subs and they are not meant for sealed boxes PERIOD!(I wont be buying one cuz i like the sound sealed boxes make)> Three what the hell is the name of that song thank you:) ohh yeah i think im gonna buy a orion hcca 12.2 for sealed box.

  • 1. you are retarded, it clearly states on FI's website a recommended sealed enclosure for this sub, if they werent meant for a sealed box it would say "not recommended" next to the sealed box stat on the website, just like it does on the BL's and BTL's. And why the fuck would you put a hcca in a sealed box? THOSE are not recommendedsealed.

  • Ok DUSTIN! I think we are both wrong because on the FI site it says they are recommended for sealed and ported i guess i didnt scroll down to see the ported part. And if you talk to an orion tech they prefer u use a sealed box if your going to throw 4k watts to it which an hcca can easily handle. the only reason you WOULD NOT recommend a sealed box is if you were actually goin to competition we all know ported is louder and pushes more air, but on the other hand the bass is totally diff.

  • the Q series is good for both but its called a Q for a reason "SQ' the btls and bls sound better in ported though

  • @SisctEN9NE he wasnt saying it wasnt for ported either he just said it is recommended sealed.hahaha not u but there r so many ignorant comments that i want to correct on this thing its best i just leave the video now!

  • What's was your voltage and gain at? Bass boost?

  • theres alot of discuss on which box pushes more air, ive seen sealed push lots of air, and if yall think sealed sounds like shit then yall dont like listening to music that much

  • CLIP...CLIP...CLIP !!!!!

  • I'm scared my sub will do that too...gonna get a vented box...need help finding one...or build one.

  • its the amp ....the sub's putting out lower ohm's then the amp can take...

  • which song is it??

  • late night tip, 3 6 maffia

  • no man its not late night tip man

    i use to hear that alot

  • UBM Subwoofer Test - Underground Bass Masters

  • SEALED ??

  • i would love to see when that sub ether rips it self from its surround or the whole dust cap catches fire get a bigger fucking box it sounds like shit and the clicking is the sub reaching its mechanical limits

  • lol dude, your saying it sounds like shit? how would you know? all you can hear is the mic distort, lmao.

  • All sealed boxes sound like ass in my opinion, without a port there is no return air flow..So it just sounds like to put one of those vibrating-ball toys in a cardboard box for bass.

  • Not true. I have heard plenty of sealed boxes sound pretty damn good. Mines sealed and it still beats well into the 20hz range, as well as sounding clean and clear in the upper signals. If you wan't SPL's ported is the way to roll, if you like clean "tight" bass for music other than rap, sealed is a good choice, since most can't meticulously build elaborate ported enclosures that actually sound good throughout the frequency range of a subwoofer. You need to hear a well built sealed setup.

  • Oh no, I've heard decent sealed set-ups. I prefer to low, dirty bass style you get from having a big fat port letting that extra air pump out of your box. I like tight bass for Metal and such, but if I'm going to spend my time and money on a system, it's going to hurt who ever sits in my car..=D

  • lol well wouldnt a bigger box make the sub move more??!? so i dont think you know what your talkin about

  • @jesseadkins187 A bigger box wouldn't really made any sub move much more. When you are running a sub in a ported box the deeper the port is the better lows you can hit. Check out my videos of my set up I have. I have a proper ported box lol. 

  • @wilsonweed123 i know about tuning eddie... im just sayin you stick a sub in a 1 cube sealed box and then stick it in a 6 cube sealed its gonna move more....

  • @jesseadkins187 Well yeah if you go from a 1 to a 6. But from a 5 to a 6 or something around those lines there wouldn't much that great of a difference you know what I mean. Did this guy in the video say what cube his was?

  • @wilsonweed123 oh yeah well no just a cube you probably wouldnt notice but nah i dont know what his is in vid but check out mine you wanna see some good vid's

  • @jesseadkins187 Yeah man for sure ill check your shit out. I have a good amount of videos up as well.

  • @jesseadkins187 Yeah man for sure ill check your shit out.  I have a good amount of videos up as well.

  • @wilsonweed123 and dont be talkin to me about proper ported boxes,, check out my videos bro you wanna see some insane shit

  • dude im getting a 10 inch one of theses

  • drill sme holes and take anuther vid m8

  • fail, fail and fail. bob, don't speak. ever.

  • no he knows what hes saying.. that box is leakin man

  • sounds like its wired wrong

  • UGH. People that say that dont understand its the MICROPHONE.

  • its the camera dude

  • that box has a leak in it

  • and why do you say that

  • look at the sub. when it stops, it moves upwards without power. that shows that some air is escapeing. look carefullly

  • so? that doesnt mean that it has a leak.

  • nvm youl never get it any way.

  • hmm, and how would you know i will never get it? your dumbass wouldnt know a pole piece if it was right infront of you

  • i would know because i build boxes, i know how to tell fag.

  • building boxes has nothing to do with a pole piece. i designed and built boxes for various systems, and i also know the actual parts inside a subwoofer. and swearing doesnt make you cool. im done with your stupid ass e-thugness

  • you actually swore first

  • since when was dumbass a swear. fag is worse.

  • well i guess it doesn't matter, but you did instigate the situation with the word "dumbass"

  • Now you sound like both a dumbass and a fag...

  • whats the song?!

  • I dunno the title but maybe i can upload it for you

  • in real life when it hits the really lows is it bottoming out?

  • it should these song go soo deep the sub shouldnt bottom out when playing music

  • i loveseeing excursion like that. wats the name of the song thats a tight song

  • dunno but maybe i can upload it 4 u

  • i thought you need a ported box somewhere around 33 hz.

  • the way subwoofers are meant to be played..

  • crazy dead subwoofer kill speak

  • RE subs are better...

  • and DD is better then RE, depends on what you like and money you have

  • SQ not a chance...spl yes

  • true that, but he didn't say better in what way

  • u should check out the 18" Fi BTL, then think about whats better

  • So TRUE

  • i would go 4 18 if i have the budget :)

  • wow its bottoming out chill out it it mann ull blow it by pushin it that hardddd

  • I think he's trying to kill it

  • sounds like the voice coil is slipping out and knocking against the core

  • hey how do you like the q sealed? i'm lookin to go sealed cause i want the best possible sound quality. i assume it still gets pretty loud. so glad theres an excellent quality sub with a non-inflated price tag. thank you Fi!

  • rec it with another thing, or change something, i dont hear any bass.

  • Holy shit people its a video not a hollywood production ur not gonna hear it like if ur sitting in the fucking car.

  • take it out of that box i know its a excursion test but damn it sounds like ass

  • could just be my computer, but it sounds like its clipping...

  • It's his camera : ).

  • whats the name of this bass test? Ive been looking for it.

  • Scroll back to the beginning of these comments...you shall find your answer there.

  • Thanks alot! And I am going to admit I was a total noob for not doing that. XD

  • whats the name of the song?

  • i hope its the cam's mic but it kinda sounds like its bottoming out

  • i agree.

  • almost sounds like a sub does when you free air it.. doesnt sound like theres any bass there

  • its probably either the microphone or the amp!

  • Would have performed and sounded better if the enclosure face wasn't square (18 x 18)

  • actually no, a selaed box can be anyshape it wants to be the sub does not care as long as the specs are right.

  • why must we be so mean to each other lol. jk. my opinion is nice sub. and the q could be sealed or ported. dont matter which u want. its all in the persons likes. i personally dont care ported or sealed unless the sub requires a port like the bl and the btl.

  • um, subs dont require ports, and if u want a good loud sub I would port it

  • wrong most spl sub on the market do want the box to be ported they actaully tell you not to seal it becaue it will hurt performance. some subs are actually made for ported boxes.

  • I know. I just like ported, becuase from MY expirience with subs, ive always got best performance ported

  • The q can do well in ported or sealed.

    The BTL and BL lines ARE NOT reccomended for sealed. End of story. Go to a fucking forum and read on it before you all start saying retarded shit. AKMH and mikehonda23 were right, the rest of you are straight jackasses who know nothing of what you're talking about.

  • no the q is the sound quality line of FI subs. Qs are made for both sealed and ported boxes.

  • actuelly he is correct i have a Q 12" myself

    they do well in both boxes i prefer the sealed sound more then the ported loud

  • ya should test it with some hardstyle xD

  • ur an idiot there is less chance of em bottoming out in sealed cuz its tighterported u hear it like a mofo