Delara Darabi, an Iranian Tragedy...

[koosmangat]

ermm i think we muslims need to relook our koran and sift it out.. for mankind.. this is the 21st century

[nadermasri]

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[realpress]

its amazing how people trreat her like a fucking angel!!! DUDE SHE MURDERED SOMEONE OR SHE WAS AN ACCOMPLICE TO MURDER!! WHERE WAS ALL THIS SYMPATHY FOR 600 CHILDREN IN GHAZA THAT WERE KILLED IN 23 DAYS???

[nadermasri]

No, she did not murder anybody. She was involved in the robbery somehow, but not in the murder crime. The man with her is the one who committed the crime. The victim was stabbed over 18 times by a right-handed person. Delara was strictly left-handed. Come on. who is talking about Gaza here.

[realpress]

i said she was an accomplice, if she was present when the murder took place that makes her an accomplice!!! so she was no HOLY person like u made her out to be. and my point was that u are making a GUILTY person look like an ANGEL,while i dont see any videos about 600 KIDS THAT DIED in gaza!!!

[nadermasri]

This whole Delara thing is an Iranian tragedy, and this is the truth. I do not see anything wrong with the statement. But, Delara was innocent of murder, especially that she was under age. There is no way she killed Mahin Khanom. The intention of going there was to take something and not to kill he woman. But, he decided ....

[nadermasri]

As far as Gaza. That is also a tragedy that took place. I am sure somebody has made a movies or two about that too. But, seriously- Arab people never really care about us anyways. We never forgot the Palestinian support for Saddam Hosein during the Iran-Iraq war. At that time I lived in a Palestinian neighborhood in Kuwait, all of them wanted Iraq to destroy Iran and kill our people. Including Khaled Meshal's family, they were our neighbors in Kuwait. So, you make the movie, I will not do it.

[realpress]

u r my hamvatan, but looking in the past is not right and 2 WRONGS dont make a RIGHT. so if they made a mistake, it is time to 4give and forget and move toward unity. we are neighbors and we will not achieve any regional goals without our friends. I LOVE iran and want a reform done in Iran not regime change. No death for minors, more freedom of speech and NO MORAL POLICE BEATING UP YOUTH. ALL im saying is that her death although tragic as a minor, SHE JUST WASNT THAT INNOCENT.

[nadermasri]

But, the Palestinians never regret supporting Iraq. You know, 50,000 Iranian soldiers were killed during Iran-Iraq war by the illegal chemical weapons. Today, thousands are still sick, who were responssible for the crimes that took place. They gave a mad man the chemical weopons, who did the Germans and some European countries. The Arabs paid for them, and the Americans knew about it but stayed silent. Now Ahmadinejad ought to talk about this for example and not the Palestinians all the time.

[nadermasri]

As far as uniting with the Arabs, that is an illusion. It will never happen. You and I must care about Iran first. I am sure that if Israel and the United States god forbid attack Iran, the Arabs for sure will support them against Iran, no dought about that. If Iran disintegrates, these Arabs are going to celebrate. Iran is a lonely country my brother, only we care about Iran. That is why I have started to favor a nationalist government for the future of Iran. I support a regime change.

[realpress]

I just wonder how u can support a regime change when 1,000,000 of ur countrymen died to keep the revolution going. Im a Muslim and although I live in the States and only visit Iran from time to time, I couldn't support regime change. I believe in the revolution but I also believe in serious reforms must take place. So we would just have to agree to disagree but I still love and respect u and all my Iranian countrymen and women.

[ukusaoz]

There is something rather odd about a Muslim (realpress), living in the US and enjoying shopping at Walmart, Dillards & Best Buy, their freedom of speech & excellent healthcare freedom to enjoy a beer or for girls to wear jeans (like they used to in Tehran) apart from freedom of any religious affinity, lending support for the regime in Iran. I'm a Brit BTW, saddened by this execution of a young girl whose crime seems to be, as a minor, she was an accessory to a manslaughter.

[realpress]

u don't know shit about the US do ya?? excellent Health Care?? u r a bloody Brit!! I don't drink beer and I'm an American AND A MUSLIM, SO DRINK IT UP SON!! I defend the truth!! my point: her death was tragic BUT SHE WASN'T INNOCENT!!! SHE WASN'T NO LITTLE ANGEL LIKE THESE VIDEOS MAKE HER OUT TO BE!! AND WHERE WAS ALL THIS SYMPATHY WHEN Brit and US soldiers killed nearly 1,000,000 Iraqis??? or Israel killed 1400 Palestinians?? Her death is being used for a political agenda and IT'S SAD!!!

[ukusaoz]

Actually I do know a little about the USA having lived there for several years and with many friends there. You do not seem to understand the law of manslaughter and also the issue of the weopon: was it taken by the boyfriend or was it from within the house? I do not know but these are important questions. I felt sad about the Palestinians losses & subscribe to a Human Rights Newsletter for information. I have worked with Palestinians in the M East & supported them when I was recruiting,

[realpress]

then my apologies if I offended u, but the weapon was with them, not from the victim's house. The intention was robbery, however murder was to stop from getting caught and reporting.This would not be manslaughter neither in the states nor in Iran. In iran Its considered MURDER and in the states it would be Murder in the 2nd degree since it was not pre-meditated. thank you and again sorry but u came off a bit condecending at first. my apologies

[ukusaoz]

Thanks for your note. Manslaughter is then different in the UK and of course, she was a minor that was apparently not informed of the potential consequences. Unlike the US and Iran, we do not have the death penalty in Europe, preferring to focus on the rehab of prisoners. Sorry for appearing condescending.

[realpress]

I Belive in the Death penalty for some things but NONE involve Minors. I Do not agree with Executing minors and Im frimly against it. as far as myslef; Im an Iraninan/American (american born). I have deep feelings for both countries but will not hesitate to criticize one for doing somethinig wrong. Unfortunately The Iraninan view doesnt have much Media behind it. US has all the Media outlets,MSNBC, NBC, CNN so I try to point out Iran's argument that deals with the underlyiing cause " continued..

[realpress]

For instance, Americans say Iran took american hostages for 444 days. I present the Iranian side that deals with the Underlying cause: they took the hostages because 2 coups were orchestrated from within the embassy after the revoltution and US wouldnt return the SHAH to Iran to stand trial. Ironically Shah and saddam both killed their own people but the difference was Shah was an ally of the US while Saddam turned against the US. so Saddam was tuned over to the people to stand trial. thanx

[ukusaoz]

I remember walking down a Tehran St in the late 70.s with a local friend past an old guy offering to shine shoes. Look at that, my friend says, the old man has to work in his retirement. But then I read the Iran travel advice on the UK Foreign Office website; dont go here, dont do this, dont do that and the reported failings of Iran Consular obligations. With freedom comes responsibility. Are Iranians now free?

[realpress]

u point out one of the reasons ppl created the revolution. ppl in their 70's had to work while Shah had SEVERAL palaces of Gold. People who didnt agree with Shah were taken and tortured or disappeared. My Father's cousin was taken by SAVAK during Shah and never made it back. Iran is now an Islamic state so there are certain limitations that come with the religion. But I think with the current moderation and reform Iran is getting much better. if u mean free like UK or US then the answer is NO

[realpress]

But if u look among middle eaastern states, then Iran looks pretty good. Women associate in almost EVERY task, just like men. this is not true in the case of some ARAB countries where a man can divorce a women via TEXT MESSAGE(sad). I think Iran NEEDS freedom of religion and freedom of speech as long as both do no insault the current regime. there is a difference in disagreeing and being insulting. I dont agree with that much freedom in the US where u can Curse Jesus or Moses and just walk away.

[ukusaoz]

Id just like to say that I remember being stunned by the sight of the Alborz (?) mountains. Magnificent. Please read the travel advice on the UK Foreign Office website for an insight into life in Iran. Executing people and in public belongs in the 12th Century. Executing minors is evil. It is sad for what has Delara's execution actually achieved? God Bless. B.

[ukusaoz]

Sorry to hear about your personal experiences of your Father with SAVAK. That is sad too.

Lets just get rid of executing people.

God Bless. B.

[nadermasri]

I am just very sorry.